This rail is fine. Not ALL rail lines need or even can afford concrete ties with heavy CWR(welded rail). The joint bar is tight, yeah maybe a bit of ballast but it's fine.
Yeah its fine. Ideally, the less deflection, the better as less opportunity or fatigue, but the deflections seem to be within the elastic capability if the material so it should be ok. That fix will probably outlive us.
yes its safe and normal its not bad at all one of our lines is so bad we have had over 250 derailments in the past year the line is 80% mud and most of the ties or rotted out snapped in half and falling apart some sections of road bed are washed out and they still run 800 or so cars a month on the line lol reason being the owner dont give a shit and refuses to put money into the line for up keep so we just bandade it where we can and the whole line is restricted to 5 mph
It is completely safe actually...the tracks need to have a certain amount of give because if they were completely unmoving there would be many more derailments.
Railroad probably has a speed restriction for that area but yes this is perfectly normal. Due to the enormous expense of derailments, all class A railroads and branch line trackage is regularly inspected and this spot has likely been noted in reports. I only wish my model railroad trackage would keep my trains on the rail as reliably as the real ones do.
This is acceptable. No End Brake, No Joint Brake, Good Tie Under The Joint, Every 4th Tie Seems Good. If You Look Under The Joint A New Tie Has Just Been Installed. I'd Say Less Then 2 Weeks Looking At The Color Of The Rust On The Spike Head.
Its not an ideal situation but consider it comparable to a pothole in a road. The track however needs to be uplifted, the mud needs to be dug out and a good load of ballast applied followed by a tamper. Having a look at the drainage might be a good idea as well. The situation will get worse however. The joint will eventually work loose and a broken rail is also a possibility.
I work in the rail industry , and I can say that track is stuffed , I know doesnt take a rocket scientist to see that . tracks are surprisingly forgivng Ive seen trains run on a track which is +40mm wider then it should be ive seen a rail break and 4 concrete sleeper destroyed by the carages with at least 1 foot between the two broken rails and still somehow no train in the dirt . much to my disapointment .
@han0115 wrong track doesn't need to move. If the track were properly spiked, lined, ballasted and tamped it doesn't move. Track that moves is like bending a paperclip back and forth. It eventually breaks. Flexing also torques the bolts enough that it can loosen the nuts and can eventually lead to blind eye's. The flexing can also led to rail head fractures. On top of that rail flexing can pull the spikes out. Loose enough spikes and the rail bows leading to derailments.
I see a few class 1 railroads operate over joints like that. It's safe, you just have to operate at a restricted speed.The FRA requires 2 ties per joint.
At slow speeds, it's OK. Probably reted for no more than 25 MPH at best. To be honest, I've seen much worse. BTW, just how close were you stading to the tracks when this video was taken? Hopefully a safe-enough (and legal) distance using the zoom capability on your camers............
@CNRailWabamun You get flat spots on rail wheels from them being drug around with the brakes tied down. This is common in all train yards when switching out cars... SOmetimes the brakes do not release and the car will be drug around.
Ive seen worse!!!!! The MAW between Napoleun and Antwerp, Ohio is one of the WORST looking lines ive ever seen but it sees trains several times a week!!!!
nope. not safe because if there's a heavy train going at TOP speed the tracks could sink, and on some tracks it doesn't sink very far until it breaks.
In welchem Land ist denn das? Das ist ja noch verheerender als bei der DDR-Reichsbahn. Eine Entgleisung scheint da nur noch eine Frage der Zeit. Für mich ist nicht begreiflich, wieso die Gleise da nicht vernünftig unterhalten werden. In Deutschland wäre so was gar nich zulässig.
This track are in desperate need of new ties and a dose of ballast. Could see some of the spike plates and I am not certain about what is clicking at the joint. Track is fairly well lined which is amazing consider the outside spikes being way out. I wouldn't want to stand next to track with a train highballing.
@PaulaDeeDillon "Desperate need"???? LOL. Seriously PaulaDeeDillon? Desperate? Gawd it is amazing how many railfans will spout off about something they know so little about.
@PaulaDeeDillon Desperate need? Serious? Just typical branch line trackage. I've stood next to tracks in this condition for 30 years. Almost anyone working in the industry has. Sounds like you're a railfan.
Well the fact that one sleeper as gotten loose has caused the others to. and it doesn't do much good for the join either as is wears it down. Iv have 2years of track work experience and also have been told about 50yrs worth of track experience
The CN line where i live does that in certain areas and they still go over it at about 25 - 30 mph. thankfully they got a bunch of upgrades happening so it might be fixed. If you take a look at all tracks, they all do this to some degree...Some more than others due to lack of maintance - which RR is this>?
@nawrock I'd rather not say what railway it is... don't want to get in trouble! But yeah... this part of the line has terrible drainage. So when it just rained its much worse!
@chrisvazquez7 dud ethis is not safe at all you need to show this to someone who is in charge of the rail transportation for what ever city these tracks are in and they need to get this fixed as soon as possable.If these bolts are comeing loose and the spikes are becoming detatched from those wooden ties a train is most likely to derail and spill a harmful chemical this city is screwed to the max.
@nawrock lol Im suprised that they arent a regional or a shortline but some of their locomotives are just plain cool especially the EX-BC Rail locomotives
@tartopfan Oh tell me about it! I love the BC rail units and the GTW units (errr whats left of them). I think they started off a long time ago as a regional thing and then they became one of the major class railroads. But this video makes me sad...because it shows that they dont really care..
@nawrock my favorite locomotives from all of the CN System are the C40-8M, SD50F, SD60F, C44-9LW, GP38-2W, GP40-2LW, SD40-2LW, GP-9R, all; of the old MLW & FMs, & well ALL OF THE BC RAIL LOCOMOTIVES!!!!!!!!
@tartopfan my favorites are the SD40-2w and the SD50/60F. But I like all the others you listed there...not a fan of the SD70s or the sd75i or the sd70m-2s
@tartopfan oh ok the SD70 standard spartan cabs are good...i like those (because of IC) and actually here in southern ON we used to see NS run through here with those standard SD70s...
Well they replaced the tie on the fishplate not too long ago. I was here about 3 months ago, and it was terribly muddy and all the ties were in bad condition. It hadn't rained for a long time, so it's hard ground now.
But I've talked to the repair foreman for the line, and he said he's tried to ask the railway to close the line off before, because of this area, but the company refused.
I think the trains can last on those tracks at slow speeds for a little while longer. Although, i don't think they're very safe. They need some maintenace. Better to be safe than sorry.
I think they know about it. Because I was at this same location about 3 months ago, and the tie that the fishplate is on, was just as bad as the others, and you can see now that it's brand new.
@0verload You can't just "call in" to a company and tell them to fix their shit. The joint is fine. It flexes. Not everywhere is concrete ties with welded rail. Light tonnage doesn't need, nor does it make financial sense to have all that on a small line.
cool story bro, needs more dragons and shit
grimrichie1993 21 hours ago
This rail is fine. Not ALL rail lines need or even can afford concrete ties with heavy CWR(welded rail). The joint bar is tight, yeah maybe a bit of ballast but it's fine.
itm426 1 day ago
lol
TheKeegan54 1 day ago
LOL ITS THE LEGO BENDY TRACK IN REAL LIFE
altopics 2 days ago
i like the part when it goes over the rails.:D
jytuned 2 days ago
Polish is in tour for this rails. Grettings froom Poland!
konzo26 4 days ago
Absolutely not safe
chugger67 4 days ago
that's what you want.
chromesphere 5 days ago
Looks like my grandpas driveway
thetrainman08 5 days ago
Perfectly safe - the Inverness to Kyle line is like this all the way but only tourists use this line so thats OK.
muiroford1 6 days ago
From 0:23 to 0:40 it taps out a 3/4 time signature almost perfectly. Music truly can be found anywhere.
TheMandolineer 1 week ago
Could do with some concrete sleepers (ties) and a re-ballasting. But not unsafe
cjmillsnun 1 week ago
yes
Rideandlively 1 week ago
Shes just fine..... run amtrak 70 on it.
trainz675 1 week ago
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this track is not safety,,,
go call train dept and fix it up soon
bestamerica 1 week ago
Replace the whole track!
Weisclan 1 week ago
As usual, before to intervene they expect to kill someone
alemile656 1 week ago
slap on some duct tape and call it a day
boedo1337 1 week ago 6
normal lol
xtremeboy23 2 weeks ago 2
the sleepers need replaceing and repacking. ties need to be replaced
TheSteamdriver 2 weeks ago
The train isn't derailing so it's fine. But the ties are mush so they look like they need to be replaced. But it's no big deal.
177987auprr1 2 weeks ago
Pretty good track by PNR standards. :)
purpleravenstar 2 weeks ago
Yeah its fine. Ideally, the less deflection, the better as less opportunity or fatigue, but the deflections seem to be within the elastic capability if the material so it should be ok. That fix will probably outlive us.
Hands4Surgery 2 weeks ago
Whats rong with the track? i dont see anything.
willibill1 2 weeks ago
it has a few years left in it lol
mopcooper 3 weeks ago
it's only unsafe if you try to stick your arm in there.
bchs98 3 weeks ago 2
.....this line aint shit in my opinion its in great shape lol
MrLocomechanic 3 weeks ago
yes its safe and normal its not bad at all one of our lines is so bad we have had over 250 derailments in the past year the line is 80% mud and most of the ties or rotted out snapped in half and falling apart some sections of road bed are washed out and they still run 800 or so cars a month on the line lol reason being the owner dont give a shit and refuses to put money into the line for up keep so we just bandade it where we can and the whole line is restricted to 5 mph
MrLocomechanic 3 weeks ago
how can any1 say this is safe?? it clearly needs some attention!
jblsound13 3 weeks ago
Das ist ein schwerer Gleislagefehler. In Europa wäre diese Strecke sofort gesperrt worden.
Fincut81 1 month ago
we have that all over up here in the marias pass line in montana. i live in glasgow, and the crossing flexes like that....they hit it at full speed.
kainhall 1 month ago
NO NO GOOD COMO EN MEXICO ,?
ricoisrael880 1 month ago
It is completely safe actually...the tracks need to have a certain amount of give because if they were completely unmoving there would be many more derailments.
sandman19681012 1 month ago
letzte Instandhaltung um 1904?? :S sehr kritischer Zustand...
TheYTisTRASH 1 month ago
Railroad probably has a speed restriction for that area but yes this is perfectly normal. Due to the enormous expense of derailments, all class A railroads and branch line trackage is regularly inspected and this spot has likely been noted in reports. I only wish my model railroad trackage would keep my trains on the rail as reliably as the real ones do.
morg52 1 month ago
This is acceptable. No End Brake, No Joint Brake, Good Tie Under The Joint, Every 4th Tie Seems Good. If You Look Under The Joint A New Tie Has Just Been Installed. I'd Say Less Then 2 Weeks Looking At The Color Of The Rust On The Spike Head.
OldIronCowboy 1 month ago
Ha! That's nothing compared to the company I work for!
rsideballa75 1 month ago
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@qwertyuiopasdfgh6055
the track is supposed to do that. if it was granite hard, they would shatter under the weight
1sidsquid 1 month ago
At that speed no problem at all. Just branchline trackage handling slow speed trains. No big deal at all.
Boss302fan 1 month ago
Those look terrible but the one in my town is totally perfect
Awesomeguy6999 1 month ago
@Awesomeguy6999
the track is supposed to do that. if it was granite hard, they would shatter under the weight
1sidsquid 1 month ago
Its not an ideal situation but consider it comparable to a pothole in a road. The track however needs to be uplifted, the mud needs to be dug out and a good load of ballast applied followed by a tamper. Having a look at the drainage might be a good idea as well. The situation will get worse however. The joint will eventually work loose and a broken rail is also a possibility.
bigkiwimike 2 months ago
I work in the rail industry , and I can say that track is stuffed , I know doesnt take a rocket scientist to see that . tracks are surprisingly forgivng Ive seen trains run on a track which is +40mm wider then it should be ive seen a rail break and 4 concrete sleeper destroyed by the carages with at least 1 foot between the two broken rails and still somehow no train in the dirt . much to my disapointment .
chlyon 2 months ago
The track doesn't even look proportional to the wheels/trucks of the train.
CNW413 2 months ago
It's Ok. The track has to move or the rail will break. Also it looks like the bolts are tight, no worry.
han0115 2 months ago
@han0115 wrong track doesn't need to move. If the track were properly spiked, lined, ballasted and tamped it doesn't move. Track that moves is like bending a paperclip back and forth. It eventually breaks. Flexing also torques the bolts enough that it can loosen the nuts and can eventually lead to blind eye's. The flexing can also led to rail head fractures. On top of that rail flexing can pull the spikes out. Loose enough spikes and the rail bows leading to derailments.
PaulaDeeDillon 2 months ago
I see a few class 1 railroads operate over joints like that. It's safe, you just have to operate at a restricted speed.The FRA requires 2 ties per joint.
ohiofoamer7612 2 months ago
that is way to dangerous report it to the local rail workers or whoever the fuck maintains the railways in your area
redbluegreen151 2 months ago
form the yellow on the steps it might be an ONR loco but i dont think that will effect rail traffic unless it really washes out
garrettlatsha 2 months ago
At slow speeds, it's OK. Probably reted for no more than 25 MPH at best. To be honest, I've seen much worse. BTW, just how close were you stading to the tracks when this video was taken? Hopefully a safe-enough (and legal) distance using the zoom capability on your camers............
friscobob56 3 months ago
LOL!!!
porcsatul 3 months ago
Well it does look a bit dodgy!!! - I wounder if the get sea sick or should that be train sick bobing up & down like that???!!!??? I'm from England
Jimyjames73 3 months ago
Must be safe, your standing there!
Automcanic 3 months ago
That's nothing to worry about!
art3490 3 months ago
Well Yes it is but it is the rail companys fault for not seeing that.
HardRockCafeNJ1992 3 months ago
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HardRockCafeNJ1992 3 months ago
If that train was going 60mph it sure wouldnt be.
Landaux 3 months ago
I wonder where the FRA inspector is? Thought all roads, including short lines, get inspected annually.
brewbob47 3 months ago
this is what i call tracks with suspension lol
anshmania 3 months ago
Looks like a sceen out of the 80s track conditions!
labhunter1 3 months ago
Hahaha that's how they get flat spots on the wheels
CNRailWabamun 3 months ago
@CNRailWabamun You get flat spots on rail wheels from them being drug around with the brakes tied down. This is common in all train yards when switching out cars... SOmetimes the brakes do not release and the car will be drug around.
CSXtrackworker 3 months ago
Ive seen worse!!!!! The MAW between Napoleun and Antwerp, Ohio is one of the WORST looking lines ive ever seen but it sees trains several times a week!!!!
TheZeke1974 3 months ago
nope. not safe because if there's a heavy train going at TOP speed the tracks could sink, and on some tracks it doesn't sink very far until it breaks.
20350723 3 months ago
yeah its fine- only jointed rail no problem! LOL most short lines have track like this too- cheaper that welding it.
Southerntreatment 3 months ago
o its looks fine compared to mine by are house
Treymic1 3 months ago
i dont think that is vary safe at all
catman88fan 4 months ago
In welchem Land ist denn das? Das ist ja noch verheerender als bei der DDR-Reichsbahn. Eine Entgleisung scheint da nur noch eine Frage der Zeit. Für mich ist nicht begreiflich, wieso die Gleise da nicht vernünftig unterhalten werden. In Deutschland wäre so was gar nich zulässig.
joshypower 4 months ago
This track are in desperate need of new ties and a dose of ballast. Could see some of the spike plates and I am not certain about what is clicking at the joint. Track is fairly well lined which is amazing consider the outside spikes being way out. I wouldn't want to stand next to track with a train highballing.
PaulaDeeDillon 4 months ago 7
@PaulaDeeDillon "Desperate need"???? LOL. Seriously PaulaDeeDillon? Desperate? Gawd it is amazing how many railfans will spout off about something they know so little about.
Boss302fan 4 months ago
@PaulaDeeDillon these tracks are not that bad.I've seen and operated over worse.
ohiofoamer7612 2 months ago
@PaulaDeeDillon Desperate need? Serious? Just typical branch line trackage. I've stood next to tracks in this condition for 30 years. Almost anyone working in the industry has. Sounds like you're a railfan.
Boss302fan 1 month ago 12
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Its fine, Its a low joint. Nothing wrong with it, please dont waste the companies time by calling them and telling them what you dont know about
Bsklarski 4 months ago
Its fine, Its a low joint. Nothing wrong with it, please dont waste the companies time by calling them and telling them what you dont know about
Bsklarski 4 months ago
Thats how our lines looked in AZ (BNSF lines) before they installed the concrete ties
sslitherr 4 months ago
nonono thats not good at all
locotrenperu 4 months ago
Well the fact that one sleeper as gotten loose has caused the others to. and it doesn't do much good for the join either as is wears it down. Iv have 2years of track work experience and also have been told about 50yrs worth of track experience
pcnerd2 5 months ago
muy buenas tomas, exelente video
MultiCheques 6 months ago
It's safe, but those ties are mush and almost useless.
177987auprr1 6 months ago
YES
9rotya 9 months ago
ABOUT AS SAFE AS A STRAIGHT RAZOR TO YOUR SAC.
rockhound694u 1 year ago
With the speed that train is going, there's nothing here to be concerned about.
GEES44DC 1 year ago
The CN line where i live does that in certain areas and they still go over it at about 25 - 30 mph. thankfully they got a bunch of upgrades happening so it might be fixed. If you take a look at all tracks, they all do this to some degree...Some more than others due to lack of maintance - which RR is this>?
nawrock 1 year ago
@nawrock I'd rather not say what railway it is... don't want to get in trouble! But yeah... this part of the line has terrible drainage. So when it just rained its much worse!
chrisvazquez7 1 year ago
@chrisvazquez7 dud ethis is not safe at all you need to show this to someone who is in charge of the rail transportation for what ever city these tracks are in and they need to get this fixed as soon as possable.If these bolts are comeing loose and the spikes are becoming detatched from those wooden ties a train is most likely to derail and spill a harmful chemical this city is screwed to the max.
PalomboDylan 1 month ago
@nawrock is not in usa
jjgrmmbh 4 months ago
@nawrock CN
tartopfan 2 months ago
@tartopfan i figured lol...I know the work of a railroad that doesnt care when i see it
nawrock 2 months ago
@nawrock lol Im suprised that they arent a regional or a shortline but some of their locomotives are just plain cool especially the EX-BC Rail locomotives
tartopfan 2 months ago
@tartopfan Oh tell me about it! I love the BC rail units and the GTW units (errr whats left of them). I think they started off a long time ago as a regional thing and then they became one of the major class railroads. But this video makes me sad...because it shows that they dont really care..
nawrock 2 months ago
@nawrock my favorite locomotives from all of the CN System are the C40-8M, SD50F, SD60F, C44-9LW, GP38-2W, GP40-2LW, SD40-2LW, GP-9R, all; of the old MLW & FMs, & well ALL OF THE BC RAIL LOCOMOTIVES!!!!!!!!
tartopfan 2 months ago
@tartopfan my favorites are the SD40-2w and the SD50/60F. But I like all the others you listed there...not a fan of the SD70s or the sd75i or the sd70m-2s
nawrock 2 months ago
@nawrock im a fan of the SD70 standards that NS & IC only bought I dont really care about the SD75Is either but love the SD70M-2 & SD70ACes
tartopfan 2 months ago
@tartopfan oh ok the SD70 standard spartan cabs are good...i like those (because of IC) and actually here in southern ON we used to see NS run through here with those standard SD70s...
nawrock 2 months ago
Yeah, it's safe. They may need to do some maintenance but the tracks are fine. Lateral movement of the rail is the big concern.
enr3870 2 years ago
It is safe. that happens everwhere
coolguy676 2 years ago 13
Well they replaced the tie on the fishplate not too long ago. I was here about 3 months ago, and it was terribly muddy and all the ties were in bad condition. It hadn't rained for a long time, so it's hard ground now.
But I've talked to the repair foreman for the line, and he said he's tried to ask the railway to close the line off before, because of this area, but the company refused.
chrisvazquez7 2 years ago
What railway was that?
trainzandbridgez101 2 years ago
I think the trains can last on those tracks at slow speeds for a little while longer. Although, i don't think they're very safe. They need some maintenace. Better to be safe than sorry.
RailfanDaniel 2 years ago
That's not what I meant. And this train is going 15 mph... I don't think that's fast enough to knock over my tripod.
chrisvazquez7 2 years ago
yah man those tracks need some maintenence I'd call them in and let them know. They're holdin on for now but who knows in another year or something.
0verload 2 years ago
I think they know about it. Because I was at this same location about 3 months ago, and the tie that the fishplate is on, was just as bad as the others, and you can see now that it's brand new.
chrisvazquez7 2 years ago
@0verload You can't just "call in" to a company and tell them to fix their shit. The joint is fine. It flexes. Not everywhere is concrete ties with welded rail. Light tonnage doesn't need, nor does it make financial sense to have all that on a small line.
itm426 4 months ago