Learning to Change-Changing to Learn

[jaycolliermedia]

Please include a link to background on this video! Speakers, producer's agenda, organization, etc.

[ellamaemarcus]

Another soundbite video telling me what "it's about". You want to know what it's about? I'll tell you -- it's about money, ie the lack thereof. Show me how to procure a class set of ipods at $250 a pop, and I'll make sure my students get the best possible use out of them. Otherwise, stop preaching to me as though I'm the problem.

[mjschube23]

My point is that nobody paid the children to learn technology skills.

Educators are holding the students back!

[ogicabp4u]

@mjschube23 true...listen to Sir Ken Robinson...and he has a PhD in Education and he agrees. See him on TED.

[MrMemehunt]

God forbid that anyone actually ask students what they think!

[lassielaughs]

It makes me sad and distressed to see so many negative replies on what is a very positive video. At no point i did I hear one educator suggest that we should not help students learn to read or write, or to learn Math, and yet that seems to be the fear. As an adult, a mother and a teacher I know that my own child and all the children in my classroom learn faster than I do, I strive to have at least a basic understanding of the technology they encounter on a daily basis but often they teach me!

[daddyslackful]

I don't mean to be pragmatic but all the nylon-string backed rhetoric in the world won't change education. What is the role of parents? Do they expect a "school as a factory" situation? If they don't, then they must take a hugely more active role in their child's learning.

Why have ministries of education? What are they measuring, who is it for and what is the purpose? It is rarely for the benefit of the individual student as a learner.

[RetnuhDrallim]

soon the world will change cause of this vid and many others like it who will lead us? WHO? ill start it now ill lead us im only 19 right now but for everyone who reads this for anyone who cares ive felt some sort of purpose and this vid makes me relize what it is this and many more like it peace on earth and always remember work as a team to get shit done

[katmarq]

@RetnuhDrallim Thats just awesome that you are so inspired - but unless you learned to read, communicate and do math from TEACHERS in CLASSROOMS just exactly how much of that do you think you could accomplish?

[egyptianlicious]

This video makes it evident that tecnology gives a spark in teaching and learning..

[mjurbanseal]

Thank goodness there are folks like you.

Now, how do we do this?? We have to change and entire industry, an institution, a nation. Lets get started!

[katmarq]

@mjurbanseal just exactly how do you think these wonderfully inspired kids will text or communicate or create or twitter or do anything if they don't have any basic skills? How do you think they should learn to write words, read words or do basic computation? I have not seen very many kids motivated enough to manage that without a school setting of some kind. yes, technology can be integrated into learning, but basics are basics and you can't do anything unless you have a foundation.

[mjurbanseal]

@katmarq I am not sure you are listening to the entire message of this video. You are right, that a basic set of skill need to be taught before any higher level thinking can occur. That is true in reading, writing, math and technology. We know where the foundation should start.

[mjurbanseal]

@katmarq But where does the "foundation" stop and higher lever learning really begin? The take away message for me is that we need to think in a new ways about education. We need to apply our American Creative Talents to the field of education. In much the same way that we applied technology to manufacturing, farming, healthcare and business.

[mjurbanseal]

@katmarq Using technology and new and creative ways to re-engineer education does not mean all the old ways are wrong or bad or unnecessary. It certainly does not mean that traditional teachers wont be needed or that people can be replaces with "machines". But with new technology, we have a responsibility to really look at how we might make learning more inspiring, more related to what learners already know and more related to what they are interested in.

[mjurbanseal]

@katmarq As a parent, it is obvious to me that we are not using all the resources available to us to, partly because teachers don't know how to use it, partly because it is growing so rapidly, they kids learn faster than the adults, But, mainly because we don't know how. We need more concrete research in this area.

[olpckatha]

We need to create an environment at schools that relate to the evolving world outside the school. Just getting technology in is not enough. Technologies that free children to explore their potential, their interests, teachers who motivate, help them find their direction, not forcing them, getting them out of the rote etc are more important than most other stuff that may be needed.

[lesuco]

"If we simply have a steady regime of standardized testing, that will make things better. When in fact it is economically a foolish idea because the jobs that the kids in school will be having do not call for right answer, vending machine approach. They will be doing work that calls are their artistic abilities, their abilities to synthesize ...." AMEN!!!

[arzoyan]

The evolution of recent human history has been dominated by minority control over the majority, the rulers have come up with nessesary illusion for compliance and servitude of the many, Science and technology has created a world of plenty, but the market mechanism is about artificial scarcity to perpetuate poverty and exploitation in a modality of war,enviornmental destructions,animal cruelty and so on . The new paradigm is sharing the Earth for our collective needs and wellbeing

[F00Textra]

Tape on YouTube:

The World's Biggest Online E-learning Academy !

[msrtoday]

Education Wonks -the people sell their ideas of what they hope can be because ITC guys (Jobs, Gates) seduced us in - Governments (who are the ones regulating SCHOOLING) say people have to be part of the worldwide community /part of the ITC world. Meanwhile, the Developing World still can't afford OLPC nor provide the bandwidth. As nations we are still competing rather than cooperating economically. What's the answer - learning to educate humanity's potential, one individual at a time.

[tahiyamarome]

captions? accessibility folks. let's get with it.

[UEtrainer]

It' s a very exciting time for learning an for sharing ideas. I think, that we can change our awareness when we use youtube, twitter, slideshare and others to share our ideas. The possibilities are realy great now and they are for free.

Education and training with social networks is really exciting. More of this stuff can change teacher brains lets coorporate.

[edavidove]

Nearly 2 years later (since this video was posted) and I have not seen much progress. The messages in this video are still spot on. I have been following this debate re:the need to transform our educational institutions and practices rather than continue with the educational model invented a long time ago. I am frustrated that we have seen so little progress towards the vision illustrated in this video. What will it take to break through all the sacred cows, resistance, policies, etc?

[thirdeyelash]

We need to go beyond a 19th century classroom model and move towards supporting synthesis, global thinking, understanding of context, multidisciplinarity, and -yes- develop a new narrative of education. In 1996, was fortunate to take a brand new course on using (and conducting research on) the internet before I graduated high school. That, along with Keyboarding, English, Humanities, Psychology, Science, and foreign language, I use each and every day.

[666fruitfly]

education is not an "industry sector", it's a public service!

[666fruitfly]

schools don't have leading edge technology, so how can they possibly teach it?!

america wants "education" on the cheap, they want their kids to sit for 12,000 hours and take tests like they did because that's all they can imagine for their kids,

many teachers are products of the same system which was designed to neuter all of us,

they lack vision and they lack guts,

and i wouldn't want them anywhere near my kids,

good thing the state is in charge, they know best what we need, right?

[666fruitfly]

let kids free from school to collect information for the day?

these ideas are a form of anarchy, since it frees people to choose their own path, are independent, self-managing, and autonomous,

anarchy in other words,

as for technology per se, it's not all that great, so what if you can send an sms at light speed?

the level of intellectual discourse is so low in the USA now that technology only masks the fact that everyone might be communicating, but who really cares who wins "survivor"?

[jenniferkrill]

Each time I watch this video I am amazed. I look forward to being part of the change.

[DrSarahElaineEaton]

I just came back from a university presentation where some scholars questioned why we are even using technology to teach. I just shook my head at the myopia.

Brilliant video. Thanks for sharing.

[franjourde]

I agree pretty much withe the statement 4:05 to 4:30.

[louielamson2000]

I think Government, City-Council, Schools Broads, Schools Principals, [PTA-Parents-Teachers-Associat­ions] As well as Corporations-Business Partners, all shall works together coincidence, to make good plans and the directions, for what is good Education for the future of American children..? Yet, I agreed with @staciejacobsen ."Not everything can be learned in school, but spelling can". A Vision of K-12 Students Today it is very important

[tbodle]

All true what they say. But there are some 20th century skills we probably don't want to lose (handwriting, doing math without a calculator, basic understanding of how to structure a sentence, spelling, etc.) I have to laugh too when we talk about schools being behind the technology curve. Most freshmen at the high school where I teach are more skilled using a computer than a majority of our faculty. What teachers need is more paid time to collaborate and update their skills. Never enough time!

[pammyoneto]

I was a `turned off child` simply because so called educators left me to my own devices. This all sounds to me like these people here are passing on there responsibility of teaching to the child. Using flowery language as they have sounds frankly a cop out.

Ik kan ook andere taalen schrijven en spreken, maar dat kwam niet van skool.

Teachers...take your classes to museums, art galleries, tach them languages...You do your job, don`t talk fancey to shift your responsibility!

[MoonEnquirerIsAChimp]

pammyoneto:

Here's a couple of points:

1. IQ does not necessarily correlate to general intelligence. Case in point: you'd be surprised at how many members of MENSA have as adults menial jobs.

2. The days of leaving school at 13, 14,15 and job for life and/or moving up the company ladder are mostly over with no qualifications. All particular qualifications show is that you can work and cope with a work/study at a particular level.

[MoonEnquirerIsAChimp]

pammyoneto:

Here's a couple of points:

5. Any half decent parent would take their child to museums, galleries, exhibitions. Most are free and they are in abundance. You'd be amazed at how many children don't even have a library card or have got into the habit of reading. Yet have televisions, computers, playstations, mobile phones and internet access, eat not at a dining table but on watching the television.

[pammyoneto]

I would also add that children of today may well be capable of texting and twittering or messaging eachother on social networks, however they have a new speak that debases the English language. Many children in the UK leave school unable to do simple maths.

I was educated during the mid 60`s and 70`s experimentation era and left with not one qualification. I have since discovered I have an IQ of 138, why wasn`t that noticed?

[MoonEnquirerIsAChimp]

pammyoneto:

3. Apprenticeships or more technical, manufacturing is dead and trades people come from Eastern/Central Europe (changing economy/global village)

4. Using "flowery" language is just being able to articulate a point if a surgeon didn't understand "flowery" language how would that surgeon explain in a succinct way a procedure in a way you'd understand?

[MoonEnquirerIsAChimp]

pammyoneto:

Here's a couple of points:

5. Continued

Then parents scratch their heads when their children sound like are obese, lack basic social and literacy skills.

****it's your responsibility NOT the educators****number five is PARENTAL responsibility, the adults had them and society subsidises them. Yet parental time gets wasted/ replaced with expensive nothings

PS: I understand your Dutch very similar to Flemish and more grammatically modern that Afrikaans. Ek es ne a water kop!

[pammyoneto]

I don`t agree with everything said in this film. While I accept that change begins with an idea. I wonder what all the fuss is about. It was only some 45 years ago that television was introduced into the classroom and as childen we would all sit together and watch interesting educational programmes. It all depends on how a lesson is taught and how interesting a teacher makes it. Bring back P.E. get children to run about a field and do more sport, teach them languages.

[ajpape09]

Outstanding. A great message delivered in a compelling effective way. Thank you!

[teddnet]

This is fascinating. mr5stein notes that there is no data, and ydennek111 replies in a loutish manner. You don't need evidence when it's raining because the evidence literally pours in and makes you wet. The fact that people ask for evidence is in itself evidence that it's not like rain. I recently asked the education sales manager of a major laptop vendor for evidence of educational benefit. Her answer was that she had none at all. Is ydennek111's civility correlated with support for the video?

[lisapaige111]

Dear 354ver:

It's "declarative," there's a difference between "too" and "to," and you ended a sentence with a preposition. What standards exactly have we been teaching? But more significantly, does it really matter that several words are misspelled and the sentence ends in a preposition, as all of that remains irrelevant to students unless educators make it relevant? Dusty old rules and facts can come alive taught the right way ... it's time.

[mr5tein]

It's touching, but note that no real data on the need for so-called 21c skills is mentioned, nor is there data that suggests current teaching practices are ineffective.

[354ever]

yes, kids are great communicators. Unfortunately, they can't spell and most of them cannot put together a grammatically correct declaritive sentence. What standards are we holding them too? Use technology to help in these areas!

[allenlind]

Can anyone point me to the Department of Commerce Research quoted in the opening line of this video?

[garvess]

I know that you made this comment months ago and maybe you aren't as stupid now as you were then but this video does envision an edcational system that is better than could have been imagined fifty years ago. And if you still hold the same opinion then I understand that the educational system has failed you.

[Lotusandcedar]

I would agree with the speaker (at time = 4:07-4:30) who lists the skills that young people need, and employers are looking for, in the 21st century.

Added twist (as of date of posting): If these young people are going to work for the Big-Three auto companies, will they find this video helpful?

[janicewhite]

Eventually a critical mass will be reached where it happens! Connectivism (George Siemens, Stephen Downes) and Informal Learning (Jay Cross) plus Wenger and Lave et al (communities of practice)... the passion and inspiration is out there now, but generally it is management that needs to hear and commit. Power and tradition is difficult to relinquish perhaps? How do we reach the decision-makers?

Thanks for an affirming piece of work,

Janice White

[twinlakescolorado]

This video is well done. As a progressive school district, we are heading in the direction of this type of educational shift. Susan Patrick is speaking to our community/district this summer. It is an exciting time to be in education, but this change will be met with a lot of political and historical roadblocks. One of them includes teachers saying, "Where can I add this technology stuff into my already full day?" We also have teacher prep. schools still training teachers in the 20th Century.

[Sandman2714]

As an administrator of an Elementary school in BC Canada, I often respond to this question by asking educators, "What are they are willing to let go of in their practice to utilize these tools that truly engage students?"

[brittgow]

The irony is that this video is inaccessible in many schools - so teachers and students will not get the message! How about cross-posting on Teacher-Tube?

[nctplarry]

Most of the commentary on this topic comes from the mouths of adults -- concerned adults, but still adults. Wouldn't it be very interesting to hear the perspective of a global panel of teenagers -- students immersed in the systems being criticized in this video? What would THEY design if they could? (Maybe we know the answer to this question, if only we look at the social networks in which they participate outside of "school.")

I say we must "solder on." Make this as important as "greening."

[straylor]

I may be an adult, but I'm all for the opinions of kids, especially kids around the globe. Just because I'm an adult commenting, don't stereotype me. :-)

Scott

360KID

[FreeSpiritWithin]

Yes! Are there any organisations out there asking young people what they want? That's why I set up CLC Education (Children Leading Change in Education). At the moment it is nothing more than a discussion group on Facebook but my intention is to organise meetings, conventions and other public-speaking platforms to provide young people with opportunities to have their say on the future of education.

[mysterbee06]

I largely agree with this. But: until the monopoly of the ETS/SAT/AP/College Board is broken, schools will be forced to focus on the vending machine/right answer approach. Colleges are complicit by taking the SAT as the main indicator of ability. So we have to dethrone the ETS.

How?

[straylor]

Well done. Allow our students the same access to technology in school that they have outside of school. It's time to move forward with new paradigms for learning and embrace 21st century technology learning skills.

Scott Traylor

360KID