If top athletes such as Gharib of Morroco have this amount of energey left at the closing stages of a Marathon then they could have finished in a quicker time.
Blimey their pace at the end was nearer 10k pace way too fast for finishing a marathon unless they had run the race too slowly.
My Marathon pb is 2.47 and i was on deaths door at the end of it.
Your point is logical, and a 2:47 is a very respectable time for a recreational runner, but you'd have to run a sub-2:10 to probably truly understand what they're experiencing.
You must agree top elite athletes who usually operate at around 4.30 per mile for 10k will usually run a marathon at just under 5 miute pace so to beable to sprint at near 10k pace near the end of the 44K is very poor pace judgement
These seasoned athletes should know what time they are after which is why they use pace runners for the first 13- 14 miles
I know what 7 minute mileing feels like as these chaps know what 5minute pace is like
They were running unbelievably fast for the end of a marathon. Possible poor pace judgement was used, but it depends on their goals also. A lot of races are run to be won and time is a non-factor except how it relates to that runner's chance of winning or placing in a race. The Chicago Marathon carries a serious purse for finishing high, so these guys may have run to place, not for time. Thanks for the conversation man, I'm trying to save enough cash to go London in 2012.
it was a tactical race what more is there to say. They only cared about the win not the time. Both runners must of faniced their chances in a sprint finish. Its like how in the olympics track middle distance races the finish is somtimes crazy fast because a lot of the runners think they can win the sprint...
Tactical or not, theres serious money bonuses paid to top athletes by the sponsors of major capitol Marathons
You may have watched the previous Olympic Games in Beijing where Sammy Wanjuri set an Olympic record of 2-06 and beat some incredible runners, Martin Lel being one of them
These elite athletes know the finishing time they are after in the race and in this case tactical running was certainly not on their minds
Any athlete finishing 44Km at this pace has used poor race judgement
Ok. Firstly Your an idiot. Secondly once a pace slows down an athlete isnt going to sacrafice his chances of winning by putting himself out front like a pace maker! If both athletes fancy their chances winning in the sprint then i dont see the problem! And in many top marathon races this is just the case and what you seen at the end is called a sprint finish. It happens in loads of races.. And it wasnt poor race judgement they both planned to kick at the end and only cared about the win!!
They both waited until the sprint finish it doesn't matter about times it's all about winning and the money. Dont u get it? And when u say "race the full 44k". These guys did race. Racing a bit slow is still racing its just tactical racing each other running waiting for the other one to make the move. Your clearly not a runner or not a serious runner if you are because you really dont have a clue. Most runners dont bid for glory any paticular place virtually every race is different!
If you set a new World Record as Paul Tergat and others have done in the past then there are huge money bonuses paid out to the top athletes ontop of their big appearence fees
As for me not being an athlete or runner
Ive been a runner for nearly 29yrs and have a marathon pb of 2-47-31 so i have some idea about pace judgement
If your marathon pb is better than 2-47 then i might listen to your argument but it appears you donot understand distance running
the race official on the right may have distracted Ivuti as he seems to try and edge to the right at the same time avoiding Gharib and I think if it had been clear he would have won by a bigger margin..but nonetheless its a very fine finish for both Ivuti and Gharib.
fu cking lies Ivuti beat that bridesmaid Gharib and i dont think morocco will ever win anything again. he was smpked again in the olympics by over 20 seconds.very poor indeed
@marwanin. Nope the Kenyan took it. Look up the results. Gharib cheated anyways by pushing the Kenyan at the last second, but the Kenyan still came out on top.
No Berlin is not in the top five dream Marathons every elite runner wants to win in their career.
Berlin has only become famous due to it's very quick times and World Record attempts.
It has always been the case from the early seventies that the top five Marathons are London, New York , Chicago, Boston and Fukiaok in Japan.
You have to be an elite runner who can run a 2-20 for the marathon to qualify for Fukioka, it's not a mass participation race like New York or London.
Berlin may be one of the major city marathons having seen several World Records including the current one set by Gabersalassie but it is a mass participation event where anyone can enter.
It is still Chicago,Boston,NewYork,London and the elite only Fukaaka that feature on every elite runners want to win list.
Unless you can run sub 2-20 you will not get into Fukoaka.
@llandudnoboy Unless Boston and Fukoaka I think every "slow runner" like me can have the opportunity to run in the other mrathons. You can secure a place with an international operator, run for charity or have luck in the ballot! as I did :)
what excellent spirit. really, they both won. to be fair anyone who does a marathon wins
MrKennethfelch 1 week ago
Ethiopians and Kenyans shouldn't be allowed to compete in US marathons until they have competitions in their countries that we can beat them in.
dachicagoan 5 months ago
the morrocann...of course..he lost....lol
cesarcolli3 8 months ago
So, who was winner?
damiano2014 10 months ago
the call was so close
they went with the one with a bigger penis.
LA6616 1 year ago 5
I just checked the official results online, Ivuti ( the darker one on the right) won, both getting 2:11:11
freshpriceoffairfax 1 year ago
I just witnessed GREATNESS....period.
14chaos2 1 year ago
exciting. So, who won? fee
uniquefeesiques 1 year ago
I wish I could run like that
CarlVonNirgendwo 1 year ago
both lost.
smkb6233 1 year ago
huuge respect for them, after so long distance, they had a energy to fight until finish line. Completing marathon requires great psychical strength.
Bombus91 1 year ago
patrick ivuti won
o5281977 1 year ago
EXCELENT GHARIB
memoextrem 1 year ago
just watching this convinced me that i just ran.... im all puffed out
crazycake93 1 year ago
@crazycake93 SAME
trevfrank 1 year ago
maroccan's men is very very strong
rachid60100 1 year ago
The Kenyan took that baby at the line.
Elififa 1 year ago
wait then who won?
cooldogcool51 2 years ago
Gharib: the OCD runner
EltBerserker 2 years ago
If top athletes such as Gharib of Morroco have this amount of energey left at the closing stages of a Marathon then they could have finished in a quicker time.
Blimey their pace at the end was nearer 10k pace way too fast for finishing a marathon unless they had run the race too slowly.
My Marathon pb is 2.47 and i was on deaths door at the end of it.
llandudnoboy 2 years ago
Your point is logical, and a 2:47 is a very respectable time for a recreational runner, but you'd have to run a sub-2:10 to probably truly understand what they're experiencing.
billcottles 2 years ago
You must agree top elite athletes who usually operate at around 4.30 per mile for 10k will usually run a marathon at just under 5 miute pace so to beable to sprint at near 10k pace near the end of the 44K is very poor pace judgement
These seasoned athletes should know what time they are after which is why they use pace runners for the first 13- 14 miles
I know what 7 minute mileing feels like as these chaps know what 5minute pace is like
Poor pace judgement They should know better
llandudnoboy 2 years ago
They were running unbelievably fast for the end of a marathon. Possible poor pace judgement was used, but it depends on their goals also. A lot of races are run to be won and time is a non-factor except how it relates to that runner's chance of winning or placing in a race. The Chicago Marathon carries a serious purse for finishing high, so these guys may have run to place, not for time. Thanks for the conversation man, I'm trying to save enough cash to go London in 2012.
billcottles 2 years ago
Now if you want a serious marathon why not try the Snowdonia Marathon in North Wales.
Extreamly picteresque and very challenging with some serious hill work from mile 21 onwards.
I live in Llandudno nearby and have run the last 15 of them.
I ran London in 2001 and found it too noisey and crowded.
I finished in a time of 2.58.
My best time for Snowdon is 3.11 and i find it easier than a totally flat course like London.
This year will be my 16th race and i have always had no 108
llandudnoboy 2 years ago
Steve Jones the famous Welsh Marathon runner set a new World Record in Chicago i believe back in 1985 in horrible conditions of driving rain.
Steve used to race the distance and feared nobody.
Setting a new Worlds best time brings with it huge cash bonuses as does winning the race
A marathon is not a sprint event as Gahrib demonstrates here.
Top runners know what time they want at the start of the race and their start & finishing pace will reflect that
10k pace at 43K is crazy
llandudnoboy 1 year ago
it was a tactical race what more is there to say. They only cared about the win not the time. Both runners must of faniced their chances in a sprint finish. Its like how in the olympics track middle distance races the finish is somtimes crazy fast because a lot of the runners think they can win the sprint...
racketer 1 year ago
Tactical or not, theres serious money bonuses paid to top athletes by the sponsors of major capitol Marathons
You may have watched the previous Olympic Games in Beijing where Sammy Wanjuri set an Olympic record of 2-06 and beat some incredible runners, Martin Lel being one of them
These elite athletes know the finishing time they are after in the race and in this case tactical running was certainly not on their minds
Any athlete finishing 44Km at this pace has used poor race judgement
llandudnoboy 1 year ago
Ok. Firstly Your an idiot. Secondly once a pace slows down an athlete isnt going to sacrafice his chances of winning by putting himself out front like a pace maker! If both athletes fancy their chances winning in the sprint then i dont see the problem! And in many top marathon races this is just the case and what you seen at the end is called a sprint finish. It happens in loads of races.. And it wasnt poor race judgement they both planned to kick at the end and only cared about the win!!
racketer 1 year ago
Gharib only kicked in at the end because he had company near the final few kilometers of the race.
No top athlete likes to sprint for the finish because there is a good chance he will loose out to a quicker runner.
Martin Lel is a superb sprint finisher but the difference in prize money from 1st & 2 in big city marathons is considerable.
Only with the likes of Sammy Wanjuri who races the full 44K are sprint finishes unlikely.
Most runners make a bid for glory at around 42K.
llandudnoboy 1 year ago
They both waited until the sprint finish it doesn't matter about times it's all about winning and the money. Dont u get it? And when u say "race the full 44k". These guys did race. Racing a bit slow is still racing its just tactical racing each other running waiting for the other one to make the move. Your clearly not a runner or not a serious runner if you are because you really dont have a clue. Most runners dont bid for glory any paticular place virtually every race is different!
racketer 1 year ago
Times do equal money
If you set a new World Record as Paul Tergat and others have done in the past then there are huge money bonuses paid out to the top athletes ontop of their big appearence fees
As for me not being an athlete or runner
Ive been a runner for nearly 29yrs and have a marathon pb of 2-47-31 so i have some idea about pace judgement
If your marathon pb is better than 2-47 then i might listen to your argument but it appears you donot understand distance running
llandudnoboy 1 year ago
skinny mudafuckas like fuking leopards
alexthem123 2 years ago
ha kenyans rule at distance, everyone knows it
pavelkostov 2 years ago
nooo one day an american will come out again
BobertXXL 2 years ago
When were they ever out!
racketer 1 year ago
the race official on the right may have distracted Ivuti as he seems to try and edge to the right at the same time avoiding Gharib and I think if it had been clear he would have won by a bigger margin..but nonetheless its a very fine finish for both Ivuti and Gharib.
dgnellyg 2 years ago
ich kack ab
dragonquest20 2 years ago
we need a indian runner.
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he tried to hold his hand...what a loooser.KENYA RULES IN TRACK ..AGAIN
mshalemkuki 3 years ago
my mom ran in it
Crazymoron657 3 years ago
fu cking lies Ivuti beat that bridesmaid Gharib and i dont think morocco will ever win anything again. he was smpked again in the olympics by over 20 seconds.very poor indeed
mnandi984 3 years ago
ure an idiot
john5364 3 years ago
Who was The Winner??
Gregrock23 3 years ago 2
sure The first: Moroccan JAOUAD GHARIB
marwanin 3 years ago 6
Ok..Thanks
Gregrock23 3 years ago
nope ivuti won, check the official results. he did it with .05 of a second
mwangimararo 2 years ago
@marwanin. Nope the Kenyan took it. Look up the results. Gharib cheated anyways by pushing the Kenyan at the last second, but the Kenyan still came out on top.
Elififa 1 year ago
u dont bout runnin man!
muluken04 3 years ago
I don't believe he tried to hold his hand at the finish. what a looser.
truth2btold66 3 years ago
What is it about Chicago? always with an awsome finish
Eljayan 3 years ago
There are five marathons every elite runner dreams of winning
New York, Boston,Chicago,London and Fukioka (sorry for the spelling) in Japan.
You have to be an elite runner to gain entry in Fukioka and winning it is a dream for only the cherished few.
llandudnoboy 1 year ago
@llandudnoboy no Berlin?
chimarathon 1 year ago
@chimarathon
No Berlin is not in the top five dream Marathons every elite runner wants to win in their career.
Berlin has only become famous due to it's very quick times and World Record attempts.
It has always been the case from the early seventies that the top five Marathons are London, New York , Chicago, Boston and Fukiaok in Japan.
You have to be an elite runner who can run a 2-20 for the marathon to qualify for Fukioka, it's not a mass participation race like New York or London.
llandudnoboy 1 year ago
@llandudnoboy Understandable.
chimarathon 1 year ago
@llandudnoboy Berlin is a World Marathon Major as Chicago,Boston,NY and London. No Fukoaka in this list
ivanno193 1 year ago
@ivanno193
Berlin may be one of the major city marathons having seen several World Records including the current one set by Gabersalassie but it is a mass participation event where anyone can enter.
It is still Chicago,Boston,NewYork,London and the elite only Fukaaka that feature on every elite runners want to win list.
Unless you can run sub 2-20 you will not get into Fukoaka.
llandudnoboy 1 year ago
@llandudnoboy Unless Boston and Fukoaka I think every "slow runner" like me can have the opportunity to run in the other mrathons. You can secure a place with an international operator, run for charity or have luck in the ballot! as I did :)
ivanno193 1 year ago
@llandudnoboy 2:20! That's nearly my 25 km..
ivanno193 1 year ago
Poor little laraki101 its a registered truth boy. The Kenyan won. Check the website.
lamrof 3 years ago
soooooo who won?! LOL
paintballx2008x 4 years ago
The Kenyan.
lamrof 4 years ago
how does he won??
dr1gba 3 years ago
good gharib
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their blood doping really paid off!
garicmidknight 4 years ago
Stupid.
lamrof 4 years ago
what a finish :D
NiKPoWeRs247 4 years ago