Video Tutorial for the Game of Go - Part 3a, Terminology (WeiQi, Baduk)

[Arephid1]

wow, this is amazing. My wife an I will have so much fun with this. Thank you for these fantastic videos.

[80VAIN08]

@Spoekenkieker

Really? I live in north germany too! In what town do you live?

[XerosXIII]

This a long time question I had in mind ever since i started (still a newbie lol)

In the Seki situation, who have the rights for the territory? or counting in the end of the game?

[bluepie88]

@XerosXIII No one. The 'territory' is neutral.

[bluepie88]

@bluepie88 (This might be a bit late in answering your question, but might help others wondering the same thing.)

[TheCursedBanana]

thx man this helps alot :D

[sockyquest]

At around 2:50, I would say black's moyo is not only that shaded area in the center, but the whole right side of the board up to the edges.

Overall, good video!

[monkeywolf]

I just started getting into go only a few days ago and I have to say your tutorial really cleared up a lot of the questions I had (such as scoring) and a lot of the terminology (people seem to forget that when doing tutorials most people watching won't know a lot of the terms being said >.<) so thank you very much and I am excited to reallly start playing now ^_^

[rhcp4565]

Hey GoshawkHeron, I really appreciate all your videos. Quick Question though:

Do you think you could upload a vid of you playing an actual game? That way, you could point out the moves and why they were made; I bet a lot of ppl would learn from that. Thanks

[GoshawkHeron]

@rhcp4565 You're right that that is an excellent way to learn. At the end of part 3b you'll find some recommendations to some learning materials; AudioGoLessons (dot) com does exactly that (in spite of the "audio" in the name, there's also video of the moves on the board.) The explanations are by Go professionals, who do a much better job than I could. The software mentioned there, GoDojo, also does a good job of leading you though the thinking process.

[rhcp4565]

@GoshawkHeron OK awesome sounds good man. I really appreciate your detailed response, means a heck of a lot to me....I will for sure check out those sites. See you on the Go board!! Peace.

[Robstafarian]

@GoshawkHeron Your example of “connect and die” appears to be flawed. If black connects at P1 (using the same coordinates as KGS), black can't prevent the group at M2/N2 from connecting at N1 and escaping. If white were to play at N1 to block, black can play at M1—capturing white's N1 stone and creating an eye (which would then be filled to connect the groups). Such “thick” play is usually bad, but escaping is paramount in this situation.

[Robstafarian]

@GoshawkHeron Sorry, I made my coordinates relative to a normal 19x19 board. For your 13x13 grid in the example, the initial connection would be at J1, white would block at G1, and the capturing move to create the eye would be at F1. Sorry for the confusion.

[GoshawkHeron]

@Robstafarian Apparently the description is just a bit ambiguous though; I was trying to say that White *sets up* connect-and-die by playing at G1, not that Black was in connect-and-die to begin with. Unfortunately YouTube doesn't let you edit your videos, or I'd go back and clean up things like that, but maybe I can add a pop-up comment to clarify. Thanks for the feedback, and happy go-ing!

[landovers]

@rhcp4565 There's a youtube channel called "gocommentary" that has some videos of Go matches with commentary. The games are very high level so many of the moves done by the players are difficult to understand, but the comments are very thorough and well done and the video quality is great.

[LSJShez]

You might be aswell showing some of your games and choices/decisions you chose. I've just tried on the server, i may aswell be trying a new language. I'm very interested in learning, but way more explaination is needed

[924142707]

It would be great if you could make more videos!!!!

[924142707]

Hey, these videos are great. Can you make more!?

[faunflynn]

This was really usefull. Thanks.

[GoshawkHeron]

Hi, hasnamaste: subtitles are posted now. Sorry for the delay; it just took me a while to clean them up.

[pedrocosti]

ladder is also called "shicho"

[J1337H4X0R]

Capturing races are often referred to as 'semeai'. Also reverse komi is used is used in systems with half ranks, when giving black an extra handicap stone is too much so they just get an extra 6 points (5.5 reverse komi). On IGS going up in half rank differences the komi pattern is 6.5, 0.5, -5.5, 2s 0.5, 2s -5.5, 3s 0.5, 3s -5.5 etc. So in this system going first is valued at 6.5, and each rank = 12 points = one handicap stone.

[madcowman19]

Wonderful explanations! This is a very awesome video that makes me really think that I can get a handle on this whole Go game.

[jsteel100]

the Go lesson language is very important. there are too many terminologies that use only pronounciation translation, but not in actual english. it is better to develop a kind if naming convention to use real english to represent everything in this game. for example "compensation" is much better than "komi".

[maliximojo]

Does black have _.5 when you count points?

[GoshawkHeron]

Hi, maliximojo: You're thinking of "komi", which is not an actual rule of the game but has become a widely-used convention. Komi points are usually given to White, though; check out part II of the tutorial for a discussion, starting at about 5:00.

In some more advanced handicapping formulas, mostly used in tournaments, it's possible for Black to get the komi instead (called "reverse komi"). You don't usually encounter it outside of a tournament, though.

[karshgen]

hmm. Thanks. I read the Hikaru No Go anime. It says a lot of those words. I can understand them now. =D

[Rauhinnen]

me too.

[DIProgan]

You have an excellent way to present this information. Go lessons often lack in clear english and/or clear information.

[badmephisto]

excellent tutorial, thank you very much!

[akuanakmeleysie]

さっぱり　分かんない。。

日本語下さい。

何段ですか？君は。。

まさか。。プロ？

まさかだよね？？

ねね。。

[spotie11]

Thanks for the upload! It helped me a lot!