the south will never die. cause there will always be a country boy flyin the great flag of the csa.and believe it or not but the south is gettin ready to rise again. the government is goin to crash and the economy will fall and everyone will have to live off the land and all you damn city folks will perish. and the south will be once again. and to make everything better the KKK does exist still
Another nearly 200, 000 views. Against your wishes, you yankees still haven't faced the truth that the Confederacy will never go away. If you're honest in admitting that simple fact, you'd save your breath and time. If not, do us and yourself a favor, and just run the hell along. Sic Semper Tyrannis!
Amazing...Johnny Cash.... singing this tune.... Look out Chris Cornell! Rad! :D
This Yankee girl has come here...In the name of peace...to say our struggles have made us what we are today..and how we continue to evolve as a country - we do it together...as brothers and sisters...in the beginning we all came from someplace else (with the exception of the native peoples)..and we are all together here and now... as one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
Southerners are welcome to make their own decisions about this flag, personally, I like it. I don't endorse racism, or judge people by the color of their skin; but to me, this flag, and the St. Andrew's cross, represent the struggle of people against bloated governments, uniting in the face of overwhelming odds and hardships, to defend their homes from a hostile invader. You don't have to like this flag, or see my point of view, but don't mount your holy high horse and call me a racist.
@BgKnoccoutGangstaDre You can't pin the war of northern aggression solely on any one issue, and yes, slavery was a part of it; but there were free black slave owners, and there were Southerners who risked their lives to teach slaves to read the Bible. Lots of people just don't understand, and belligerently cling to the 'racist Nazis' party line when asked why we might still treasure our flag. Today, this flag means the South, for all the good and bad -- that's all I want people to know.
@StonewallJackson86 A large portion of white Southerners either 1. fought against the CSA. 2. Dissented politically against the CSA, and favored suing for peace with the US, or 3. Were indifferent to the war, and chose to stay out of it....so...that traitor's rag, DOES NOT "mean the South'". Rather, one group of Southerners who fomented a rebellion for the purpose of retaining their property. That regime was represented by any and all Confederate rags. Their only place, is in a museum.
@BgKnoccoutGangstaDre "the South fought on account of the thing we quarreled with the North about. I never heard of any other cause for quarrel, than slavery"..Col. John Singleton Mosby
'We come to secession not on the issue of the tariff, but on the issue of slavery'...SC Congressman Lawrence Keit
@StonewallJackson86 Yep, people can fly whatever flag they want. It's a free country. People are also free to judge people's character based on their behavior.
Racist or not...Confederate flags represent a hostile enemy of the United States of America, which tried to destroy this country, and killed more US soldiers than any radical Muslim, or Fascist dictator. Slavery aside it still stands for...domestic terrorism, treason, and Civil War. Don't be surprised if it rubs people wrong.
@UnionStatesHeritage ...and as long as people in the South cling to this despicable "heritage" and try to justify it, don't be surprised if the rest of the nation judges you for it. Confederate Heritage is the same thing, as illegal aliens from Mexico, trying to declare Aztlan, or Muslims trying to impose Sharia Law on the American justice system...a hostile culture, which refuses to assimilate in OUR country. Southerners live in the USA, the rest of us DON'T live in the CSA. Live with it.
@UnionStatesHeritage If the Confederate flag belonged in a museum, what's it doing everywhere else? In pop culture, in old rock and roll -- I mean, were Bo and Luke Duke a bunch of traitors to the US government? Or Lynyrd Skynyrd? I didn't ask you to like it, approve of it, or particularly care. You're certainly welcome to your opinions, and I accept your views to be understandably hostile. Do you accept that a segment of American citizens in the South feel differently? Does your dissenting,
@UnionStatesHeritage emotional opinion trump all others? What other reason is there for coming to a page you obviously don't support, plaguing the comments with accusations of treason, righteous indignation and judgment? If it makes you feel better, I can't stop you from continuing to do so -- but you'll catch more flies with honey than vinegar, and all your arguments here seem to do is prolong the death of rather poor quality videos, keeping their view numbers up.
@UnionStatesHeritage lol. What about my statements sound surprised at your judgment? I mean, you're all but saying 'If you fly this flag, you deserve their inaccurate and fallible judgments.' -- I'm sorry, sir, but that's simply not accurate. The Confederate flag means a plethora of different things to different people; obviously, to you, it's offensive. To others in this country, it is not. It's certainly not like Muslims trying to impose Sharia Law, either --
@StonewallJackson86 LOL...YEAH...that's EXACTLY what I'm saying. Why? Because those "inaccurate and fallible judgments" are the result of what Southerners said about the war AT THE TIME, free of 21st Century political correctness. When a "culture" has to spend as much time trying to convince people of what it isn't, there's usually a good reason for it...like maybe it's reputation precedes it.
Yes it is...very similar. A hostile culture living in the US, and trying to impose its world view
@UnionStatesHeritage But take your ideas, your moral judgment, and stop trying to incite offensive behavior on these message boards. It's amazing how 5 people liked your comment without a single one stopping to comment on it. I'm judging you for practicing intolerance while preaching against it, one of the lowest forms of hypocrisy -- tell me, truly, do you feel any different? That's how much impact your judgment has on me, as well.
Respond to this video... Oh yeah...here it comes...you people are SO delightfully predictable. It's always the same bag of politically correct BS. YOU'RE the victim of intolerance & bigotry...despite the fact that Confederate vids DOMINATE Civil War threads on Y-Tube, and ALL of them are nothing but hives of hatred, and intolerance, themselves. Take your troupe of Gypsies, and play sad violin music, to someone who gives a damn.
Respond to this video... As far as this nonsense about the CSA representing struggle against bloated governments and invasion...The South controlled much of the government before the war, so if it was bloated, they had themselves to blame for it. Westerners were sick of Southern politicians telling they how to live, hence the election of 1860...Invasion..well, the South wouldn't have been invaded, if they hadn't attacked the USA and its people. You reap what you sow.
@UnionStatesHeritage But for the record, I won't try to attack your points -- though I do feel that in a more suitable forum for academia, this would be a much more productive conversation. If you're educated enough to make those points, you should also know the counterpoints and rebuttal arguments; 500 characters isn't enough to delve into it. Make your own video, make a website; quit stalking these comments to bombard every supporter with rhetoric and controversy.
@StonewallJackson86 I REALLY wish you would try. You can even drop the issue of slavery, if you like. What's so pathetic about CSA heritage, is that it can't stand on its owns claims, as to what the war was about, and why Southern states were supposedly fighting it.
@StonewallJackson86 Don't waste your finger tips, slick. This is a culture war. If you can't stand to get a little bloody, you best leave the battlefield. I'm not backing down, and I'm not going to go away.
LOL...I think it's hilarious...my comments which were spammed, were examples of Confederate heritage speaking for itself...unfiltered.
Get used to seeing more of that. There's a deep well of damning material. Your culture speaks eloquently for itself.
@UnionStatesHeritage You're twisted, man. Your perceptions, facts and opinions are all pretty far off base, as far as I'm concerned; but hey, you're welcome to those opinions. You sound like Bill O'Reilly with this 'culture war' nonsense, even though I do find your rather hostile position to Hispanics and Islam pretty comical. This farcical affront to academic debate is little more than ranting and raving. I wish you would let the culture to speak for itself, --
@StonewallJackson86 Damn right I'm twisted... It takes a Mongoose to kill a Cobra. Nope, my perceptions and facts are completely on base, and that makes you nervous.
I'm hostile to Hispanics and Muslims who come here and try to impose their culture on the nation at large. Exactly what Confederate heritage, and its supporters have been trying to do, for the past 100 years. If y'all are unhappy with losing the war...emigrate.
@UnionStatesHeritage rather than assaulting everyone celebrating it as hostile, treasonous anti-Americans. It's not my fault Confederate vids may be in excess on Youtube, but I doubt there's a shortage of material in whichever genre you find enjoyable -- why do you linger here if it's unappealing to you? Do you need the attention of the people you're insulting? Personally, I generally don't see a 'hive of intolerance and hatred' in Johnny Cash, but whatever floats your boat, I guess.
@StonewallJackson86 Of course you don't see it. Blindness is a side-effect of Kool-Aid poisoning.
Uh yeah, since the Confederacy was a hostile, treasonous, mortal enemy of the United States, I think characterizing the people who celebrate it, support it's principles, and work towards "doing it again", is quite fair, and accurate.
@UnionStatesHeritage Hate who you want to hate, and if that happens to be me, then I imagine its my cross to bear. But realize it's still hate that you're peddling here, and stop trying to dress it up as some noble crusade in this imaginary battlefield. Do you really think that anything will be decided as a result of your participation in YTC flamewars? Are you so threatened by the South 'rising again' that you feel a need to go on the offensive?
@StonewallJackson86 Awww, sweetie, it's nothing personal, and it's not about you. It's about the despicable culture you venerate. Nope, not some noble crusade. That's what some Yankee Dudley Do Right would waste his time with. I'm fighting the kind of war, CSA supporters are fighting...savage, honorless, guerrilla warfare.
Respond to this video... Yeah...the YTC...a prime example of what Confederate heritage is all about. The topics of their discussion forums were very illuminating. Among other things...using the US military as a training ground for future wars against the US, soliciting help from foreign enemies of the USA, attacking US bases, and killing US soldiers, in an effort to steal equipment & weapons (including nukes), to supply the new Confederate army with.
Respond to this video... And you people wonder why the rest of the nation hates you and your despicable culture. I find it amusing that YOU are a supporter of that group, and they are on your own friend's list, and you pretend not to see the hatred.
This culture is what it is, what it always has been, and always will be. It needs to be destroyed.
@UnionStatesHeritage Slow down there, sir. I won't deny you make decent points, or that I'm a friend of the YTC, or that many of their views and mine are not in sync. I'm also quite capable of re-reading familiar source material, rather than needing it copy and pasted. For the record, good luck in all your endeavors. Especially with trying to convince your opposition to emigrate, because that's always worked so well historically. If this is how you define Confederate heritage, so be it.
@UnionStatesHeritage I feel no need to answer your lengthy quotes with rebuttals, though I think you should be able to locate some if you search thoroughly -- they're certainly out there. But don't take my word for it, I'm blind from Kool Aid poisoning because I don't see the intolerance in this old song and grainy pictures. You do realize, that by venturing here to stir up the proverbial hornets nest, all you really accomplish is prolonging the death of these videos?
@UnionStatesHeritage Keep on hashing it out, bringing more views to this video -- which has 482 likes, 51 dislikes, and evidently, absent of a whole lot of societal judgment. I love that you can quote from the YTC boards, though again, I think it lends to your deluded paranoia. If you think I'm nervous, it's only due to your particular belligerence with this issue -- that kind of blind hostility is unhealthy. But for record, don't characterize this as war; --
@StonewallJackson86 HAHAHA...deluded paranoia...really? Your culture is fueled by that very condition. Like I said, mind your own side of the fence, before you worry about mine.
Yep, this is a war, alright. Granted, it's kind of lame as wars go, but it's one that still needs to be fought.
Yep, that kind of hostility is very unhealthy, and it's SO much bloody good fun, poisoning the Confederate beast, with its own venom.
@UnionStatesHeritage Paranoia and delusions of grandeur, for the record. Really, mind my side of the fence? You contacted MY original post with your misguided rhetorical opinions, and are even here at what I guess we can call my video. Why aren't you at a support the Union site? You know, I don't see Confederate trolls spamming God Bless America pages with such vehemence -- maybe I'm just missing all the bloody good fun? Oh well, I guess it's the high price of class and character.
@StonewallJackson86 Oh Confederate trolls have tried to set up their Kool Aid stand on Union Vids. Problem is, they can't stand the heat, once they're no longer surrounded by their own cocoon of revisionist bull shit, and they end up spouting some pathetic platitude like "Deo Vindice", declaring victory, and running back to the collective hive, to munch on some more royal jelly, pop in a DVD of Gods & Generals, and beat off, until they feel better.
@UnionStatesHeritage Is that right? So you followed them to their 'revisionist cocoons,' because you didn't get a decisive sense of victory from arguments on those pages? And hey man, I'd rather beat off watching Gods & Generals than while pasting one sided propaganda all over Youtube. Though neither option particularly sounds appealing. So hey, is AlexReb92 one of your pathological mortal enemies for making this video? Is he really crazier than you? You tell me, buddy.
I don't need to mind my side of the fence. Union vids are models of decorum compared to CSA vids, or ANY other Confederate web site, organization, or what not.
@UnionStatesHeritage because war requires courage, honor and sacrifice. What we're doing here is not combat, it's dialogue at best, though more closely resembling aimless dialogue and drunk arguments. Is this how you explain yourself, justify your actions? By posting excerpts you consider relevant to your point, then daring people to challenge you? I've lost my taste for random arguments based on Googled facts. It scares me to think that you're as smugly enamored with war as the YTC extremists.
@StonewallJackson86 What utter nonsense. War requires you to be better at killing soldiers and breaking stuff, than your enemy. That's why its called 'war'. Hardly aimless, and I'm definitely stone cold sober, at the moment. I'm dong neither, I'm simply employing classic martial arts strategy... using my enemy's tactics and strength against him. I leave the explaining and justifications to others.
Googled facts? Facts are facts, regardless of the source...
@UnionStatesHeritage You know, the pathetic part here is that it almost seems like you'd be glad for some kind of conflict, if only to serve those traitors one last blow. I'm an apologist, and the reason radicals can gain power, for being the voice of reason? Really? Sure buddy, you're definitely not twisted at all, you're grounded in solid reality -- so get back to the front lines of your culture war, you don't want to risk losing.. what exactly?
@UnionStatesHeritage It's interesting for you to call anything nonsense as you spout off about martial tactics in this internet flame war. Using your enemies' tactics and strengths -- uh, what exactly, making your own videos? Gathering a group of like minded supporters together in some kind of youtube community? Or, oh.. that's right. You're invading these pages, running at the mouth, and trying to stir up controversy. That'll stop' em coming back, sure.
@StonewallJackson86 Hmmmm...what's crazier. Responding to these offensive vids, which ARE anti-USA, racist, and what not, or posting them in the first place. Chicken or egg Luv? Explain it to me.
@UnionStatesHeritage Responding to these videos, every time. Dude, you can have a million arguments over the EXACT same point with a million different people in these message boards -- how much time do you think he spent on this vid? 20 minutes? Oh yeah, we definitely need to lock up that crazy hippie Confederate up for being a danger to society.
@StonewallJackson86 lol...and you think I'm a twisted individual. It's not the individual that's the problem. It's the greater culture...which has gone from posting lame vids, to using these vids as a recruitment tool for Neo-Confederate militias...like the ones promoted by your buddies at the YTC. Who the hell do you think you're talking to here? I know how this culture works, so drop the pretense that this all just harmless. BTW...WHY are YOU still supporting the YTC?
@UnionStatesHeritage LOL. Ooookay. It's not the individual video makers that's the problem, its the whole community -- and it's not that their videos are offensive, it's that they're using them to recruit domestic terrorists. That's definitely what Alex was up to when he made this video, nail on the head. I joined the YTC because I liked the points of a couple of its members; I didn't realize it was an abandoned shell of an organization, and I'm too lazy to remove it. And hey, for the record, --
@StonewallJackson86 Stop playing stupid. I was pointing out a PROGRESSION of activity. That is the way radicals, and their drones operate, and if such activity was so damned innocent, there would be no reason for organizations like the FBI to exist. Ever hear of Hutaree?
I know Alex. He's friended on my personal page...WolfencrowMedia. Alex probably hasn't had much to do with these vids for some time. However, they're still popular with the Kool-Aid drinkers.
@UnionStatesHeritage Hey man, for the record, I wasn't playing all that stupid -- I just haven't been here all that long, and I genuinely suppose that ignorance is bliss. Still, I have a few problems. Why would a few radicals make you give up on a project you considered important, shouldn't that make you buckle down and strive harder to increase relations? I really am tickled that you know this vid's creator and seem to like him, but apply your bad experience with YTC to his supporters.
@StonewallJackson86 It's not the radicals that made me give up. It was the lack of condemnation from so-called mainstream Rebeldom. It's not hard to figure out...the nastiest comments are always the ones with the highest ratings. Again, the culture speaks for itself. I wasted way too much time on such worthless endeavors. You can't wrap fire with paper, and you can't improve relations with a culture that is hate driven.
LOL...for awhile though, I WAS a Neville Chamberlain...pathetic really
Respond to this video... Funny you should mention Alex. We used to share a channel, back when I WAS deluded into believing that you could compromise with this culture. Yep, we opened up a channel, which was supposed to be about mutual respect for both Union & Confederates. It was increasingly high jacked by CSA supporters trolling their hate, so with his permission, I pulled the plug on the project.
@UnionStatesHeritage I accept your seniority in these matters, evidently you've spent a lot of time "in the trenches" of this culture war. And if you say the YTC is actively recruiting terrorist Neo Confederates in the South, then I believe ya. That must be where they all go when they get tired of arguing with you -- maybe someone should warn the feds those dangerous Neo Confederate militias are on the rise? Oh, I have a better idea -- lets just piss on the First Amendment and take'em off YT.
@StonewallJackson86 LOL...you must be a liberal. The First Amendment DOES NOT cover conspiracy to commit acts of domestic terrorism. The YTC was doing EXACTLY what the Hutaree people were doing. They just never had the chance to put anything they were discussing, into action.
@UnionStatesHeritage But you're right, the First Amendment does not cover conspiracy to violence of any nature; except that to bullshit on internet message boards is one thing, to plot commit an act of terrorism requires far more in-depth thought. The book Lone Wolf has been blamed for OKC, but we still don't burn or ban it. I don't know if there have ever been conspiracy charges filed for net chatter, but I don't suppose there were any arrests made for this crime?
@StonewallJackson86 I'm not in favor of banning anything. I want to see Confederate Heritage destroyed the old fashioned way...peer pressure. I'm not in favor of laws banning flags, or what not. I'm in favor of the stigma of supporting this heritage not being worth the trouble of supporting it. That's gonna take some time, but it will happen. The Confederate beast will be killed by making a thousand tiny cuts, through which its own slobbering venom, can effectively poison it.
@UnionStatesHeritage For the record, I actually had to Google Hutaree, but from what I understand the Michigan Militia backed out on them and complied fully with the Feds, which allowed for the arrest of 9 ringleaders? Not to mount this argument in defense of the weekend warrior Militiamen, but I don't believe we need to bring back the Sedition acts for a bunch of internet yokels. Were those people even on the internet at the time? And I'm sorry if that makes such a big difference in the --
@StonewallJackson86 No, I don't think we need to bring back Sedition Acts. Again, I never lost sight of the fact that these people were clowns, and yes, I taunted them mercilessly about that very fact.
One thing about the kind of commentary you read on these vids, or any other CSA heritage site. You rarely ever see any Southerners condemning the hate, and when it does happen, its always the same...the individual is attacked by his own kind, and stripped of his/her Southerness...
@StonewallJackson86 ...I've witnessed that very thing happen on more than one occasion. Again, it really shows the culture for what it is, and that culture does not deviate from its savagery. Frankly, one thing I've learned from Confederate Heritage...Southerners are not true Americans (except in regards to geographic location) in the sense that people from other regions are. On the surface, they come from the same root culture, but in reality, they're
@StonewallJackson86 they are nothing like us. Southerners are Europeans who never left Europe. They still celebrate their tribal hatreds, and carefully pass it on to successive generations. They're reminiscent of a North American version of the Balkan peoples. Years ago, I would never have had such views, but your culture has made a believer outta me.
@StonewallJackson86 I'm sure that won't set well with you, but that's exactly the conclusion I have come to. No other region of the nation (even Kansans, who have a legitimate right to HATE the South), continue to hold Civil War grudges, and try to maintain this bizarre, notion of cultural xenophobia, that Southerners love to wallow in.
Sorry, not trying to be mean, just stating things how I see them.
@UnionStatesHeritage Since you brought it up, though, I went and checked in at the YTC Channel. Nothing offensive or intolerant there, either. The most recent conversation I read was anti-racism and Confederate imagery, all-in-all a rather wholesome and easy read. I think I missed the memo about the deadline to join up at the local militia, though. Maybe it's subliminal and my subconscious was unreceptive, you can never be too sure with those crafty Neo Confederates.
@StonewallJackson86 Yawn...again, playing stupid. You-tube pulled the groups function 6 mos. ago, and the YTC's forums went with it. However, I understand they are still active on Ning, and I'm pretty sre they are still affiliated with the Confederate States Militia, on that site.
Yeah, we had a rumble about a year ago, and I called them out in public, about their activity, so yes, they got way more 'crafty'.
@UnionStatesHeritage Yep, the scumbag who runs the joint, LSskimandsk8 said the same thing you did..."you're crazy". He got real upset though, when I posted quotes from their discussion forums, detailing EXACTLY the kind of behavior he swore up and down, the YTC did not condone. Not only that, he refused to eject the members involved in the discussion. Like I said dude, I KNOW this culture.
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@UnionStatesHeritage But honestly, you know THIS culture -- which I really don't intend to mean THE Southern Confederate culture. Just the entrepreneurial radicals, rather than the people who take the struggles and hardships handed down to them seriously, like the small town boys who still live on the land their Grandfathers handed down. But back on topic, if you seriously think the YTC people are dangerous enough to be criminally pursued, why would you risk lives by stirring them to action?
@StonewallJackson86 Here's the problem with this line of thought. Confederate Culture IS radical. It IS hate-filled, it IS about destroying the USA...and has been since day one. Even before that, if you count the decades of discord fomented by Southern Fire Eaters.
There's plenty of small town boys in the North, Midwest, and West, who live the same kind of life, and they don't go around promoting Union Civil War Heritage, and attacking the South, in the way the South attacks the USA.
@UnionStatesHeritage But listen. I grew up in a place where I had to stand for the Black National Anthem, and got Confederate Memorial Day off. There was a sect of Bloods that adopted the Confederate flag, but you still couldn't wear it in school. I have a beautiful painting of the Monitor and the Merrimac, and most of my black friends like it. My Grandfather told me stories about his Grandfather fending crazy Yankee looters off of our family land. I grew up in the South, and I'm proud of it.
@StonewallJackson86 Yeah, lots of Southern families have those stories, and a lot of them supposedly occurred in places where the Union Army never even marched through. You are aware that Lee was a better thief in my home state, than Sherman was in Georgia? According to my old timers, one of my ancestors was killed by Confederate snipers, while drawing water from his well. No doubt, shot in the back.
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@UnionStatesHeritage argument, but there's too much anonymity and distance online to effectively coordinate something like that; it's a very different thing when people have to hand out pamphlets and face their recruits. Would you REALLY be in favor of an Internet Conspiratorial Sedition act? -- But okay, so you spied on the YTC, right? Can I see anything you've got left over from that rumble? Not to come off as a 'prove it' statement, either, I'd just like to form my own opinion.
@StonewallJackson86 Nope, I wouldn't . Frankly, I'm glad people like the YTC exist. They serve as a perfect example of what this heritage is. RedShirtArmy does a pretty good job of it, as well.
Actually, you can IF you can view the vid. Some of it occurred on public forum, and it is part of the comment scroll on...Cenk Of The Young Turk Debates Confederate History Monty...problem though...I went to the vid to post in on my channel, and it is now evidently a private vid...
@StonewallJackson86 ...I was on the vid about 3 mos ago, and it was still public. I'm going to send a message, asking if I can post it to my channel. Make no mistake, I'm fully aware that these people are clowns. On the other hand, recent events in Norway, also show, that you can't dismiss them entirely. I in fact, called Home Land Security...just to cover my bets. You'd be surprised how difficult it is, to even find someone to talk to, but when I finally connected with an agent, & ....
@StonewallJackson86 explained what I saw, I got the response I expected (and rightly so)...it was low priority.
Now, interestingly enough, I used to be friends with Rebel2276...another one of those 'moderate' CSA supporters, who claims he's a 'scholar', as well as active duty military, serving in Iraq..supposedly in some kind of administrative level. We exchanged some PM's over a couple of months...
@UnionStatesHeritage ...everything was okay, albeit he was more right wing than even I am. Well, things got bizarre, when he started discussing his and his "associates" (assuming military buddies) working plans to bring about a military coup. He had it pretty well thought out...including "neutralizing the police and military personnel, in charge of security in D.C. I found it disturbing, but at that time, I was still pretty naive about such things, and told no one...
@UnionStatesHeritage ...according to this joker, about a couple of months later, he claimed that he and his associates had decided not to pursue such a course of action. Now, I have my doubts that this individual is in fact active duty military. If he is, it doesn't speak well for the military's profiling abilities. I wrote him off as a clown, but what if I had been wrong?
BTW...I keep most of my messages, so his PM's should still be available, but I might have to dig for them.
@UnionStatesHeritage But also, from my point of view man, you're damn if you do and damned if you don't -- let me be upfront about that. If you really believe these people are dangerous and a serious threat to national security, then you're not doing enough about it -- antagonizing the 'new recruits,' and stirring up the 'veterans,' by deliberately insulting culture that your 'enemies' hold dear, is not even close to an effective, rational or understandable solution. It's just bitterness.
Respond to this video... cont...and Google Books IS a very good source of information...but not my only one.
Hmmm....there IS a certain dark beauty to warfare, otherwise people would not have been enamored with it. since the dawn of time. Now I must confess...nothing would please more than to get a crack at the Confederacy. Finish it once and for all, like we should have done, the first time around. Unfortunately, I'm destined for disappointment. So, this will have to suffice.
@UnionStatesHeritage Of course you're so eager, but you wouldn't do anything like take the time to dedicate a life of service to catching -- get this, not just Neo- Confederates, but all of America's enemies, foreign OR domestic. Would you believe there's an entire Bureau of Investigation for just that sort of thing? But, for the record, I haven't heard of any high profile Southern arrests, unless you count Casey Anthony. Maybe it won't hold your interests as 4 years of dedicated YT service.
@UnionStatesHeritage The thing both the supporters and detractors of these vids seem to longing for are discernible sides -- I don't preach any hatred or violence, racism or other nefarious points of view. The opinions are scattered across a huge spectrum, with marginal support categorized into "like" and "dislike." Your delusions of grandeur are especially disturbing when you allude to the judgment of the whole country on the South -- people you call 'mortal enemies,' and 'traitors.'
@StonewallJackson86 "I don't preach any hatred or violence"...nope, you just support the culture and people who do. Your an apologist. People like you are the reason why radicals are able to gain any political power, at all.
MY delusions of grandeur? I'm just a simple foot soldier.
There you go again...confusing "The South", with the Confederacy. Confederate Southerners & their supporters, WERE our mortal enemies, and still are.
@UnionStatesHeritage You've lost sight of leading by example, ( and I guess I have, too ) -- but at least my goal isn't to stir up opinionated distress through literary vitriol. The more furiously you combat these sentiments, the further you will escalate the situation -- nobody comes to watch these videos, just to engage in these petty discussions. Your tactics don't seem to be succeeding at anything other than recruiting more Confederate defenders. Good job.
@StonewallJackson86 I'm not trying to lead in any capacity. Besides, been through all of that high fallutin nonsense. There's no compromising with this culture. I really think you should mind your own side of the fence, before worrying about mine. Your culture wrote the book on the employment of literary vitriol. I'm simply employing the same tactics. Actually, compared to four years ago, Confederate Heritage on You-tube is stagnated. There are more Union supporters than there used to be...
@StonewallJackson86 ...on these threads, and what is gratifying is the fact that several, are Southerners who identify with...Southern Unionists. Southern Unionism is a CW topic that is finally getting noticed, by Civil War discussion, and the people leading the charge are Southerners. Authors like David Williams, and Victoria Bynum. Now THAT is something that makes your culture very nervous, indeed.
@UnionStatesHeritage You're so eager to assign labels and create some fictitious enemy, and the fact that you've been doing this for four years is borderline pathological. Nervous? Really? By renewed interest in the Civil War, of any kind? Do you attribute the stagnation with your efforts, did you "win" yet? What is your goal here? Obviously, Rebel Pride is still here. Obviously, I'm confused; Elvis sang Dixie, yet he was certainly 100 year old treasonous, mortal enemy of the US in1960.
@StonewallJackson86 Damn, I'm having a good laugh over this one. So, all the lame CSA supporters who post these disgusting vids are NOT pathological? Like I said...it takes a Mongoose to defeat a Cobra.
@UnionStatesHeritage Look at this kid's page and tell me he's your mortal enemy, please. His entire background is 'Make peace, not war' -- but I guess he's another one of your apologist casualties, right? The expendable targets that allow those nasty internet radicals to gain threatening political power. AlexReb92 probably hasn't even looked at this video in quite some time, and uh, no. Creating a video isn't nearly as pathological as 4 years of trolling videos.
@UnionStatesHeritage I'm aware that you'd like a list of reasons for my Southern pride, so that you may attempt to dismember and attack those reasons in another 500-words-or-less diatribe. I don't care what you think of the South's reasons for fighting the war, although I think you're eager to oversimplify the situation into something you can turn into an offensive punchline. You should examine your own reasons for being here instead of attempting to assess and judge the reasons of others.
@StonewallJackson86 Haha, Bless your heart...there you go...assuming that Confederate heritage is the same as Southern heritage. It's not. Just another example of the politically correct arrogance, that sustains this messed up culture. It's not a matter of speculation. Confederates were clear as to their reasons for starting a civil war. Clarify not simplify...big difference. I know why I'm here...I believe in taking the fight to the enemy.
Respond to this video... The Confederate states "unblushingly proclaim that slavery is to be the normal condition, this Southern millennium which they are about to introduce; and, that they, as the superior race, are bound by the law of Divine Providence to hold the sons and daughters of Africa in perpetual bondage."
"Our sympathies cannot go with the Southern states, who, in the second half of the nineteenth century, are proclaiming...
Respond to this video... cont...a doctrine, the foulest and most revolting to ever be enunciated since our blessed Redeemer, hung upon the cross of shame, and bore away the sins of the world. Sympathy with the Southern states! We have as much sympathy with them, as with a gang of robbers, or a crew of pirates".
THAT was the assessment by Scotland's Presbyterians, at the beginning of the CW, of the South's self-professed reasons, for starting the conflict.
Respond to this video... I especially enjoyed finding that perspective on the war, because according to 21st Century revisionists, the Confederate cause shares some kind of spiritual kinship, with Scottish people, and culture. However, it doesn't look like Scotland was feeling the love, at the time. Interestingly enough. Scotland is home to the only known CW memorial, on foreign soil. It's a memorial to Scots who fought in the UNION Army. Hmmmmm.
Respond to this video... Now, on to the notion that Confederate pride, and Southern pride, are exclusively interchangeable..."we prefer to remain attached to the government of our fathers. The Constitution of the United States has done us no wrong. The Congress of the United States has passed no law to oppress us. The President of the United States has made no threat against the law-abiding people of Tennessee. Under the Government of the United States we have enjoyed as a nation...
@StonewallJackson86 cont...more of civil and religious freedom than any other people under the whole heaven. We believe that there is not cause for rebellion or secession on the part of the people of Tennessee.
None was assigned by the legislature, in their miscalled Declaration of Independence. No adequate cause can be assigned. The Select Committee of that body asserted a gross and inexcusable falsehood in their address to the people of Tennessee...
@StonewallJackson86 cont...when they declared that the Government of the United States has made war upon them. The secession cause has thus far been sustained by deception and falsehood: by falsehood to the action of Congress, by false dispatches as to battles that were never fought, and victories that were never won; by false accounts as to the purposes of the President, by false representations as to the views of Union men, and by false pretenses...
@StonewallJackson86 cont...as to the facility with which the secession troops would take control of the Capital, and capture the highest officers of Government. The cause of secession or rebellion has no charms for us, and its progress has been marked by the most alarming and dangerous attacks upon the public liberty.
In other states, as well as our own, its whole course threatens to annihilate the last vestige of freedom...
Wow...now THERE's something you won't read in "The South Was Right"
Respond to this video... That declaration by the citizens of East Tennessee was an example of sentiments that existed throughout the South. What's interesting is the Confederate Regime's response...declaring those citizens to be 'traitors', invading East Tennessee, arresting, terrorizing and murdering anyone who dissented, and forcing East TN into the CSA, at bayonet point.
Yeah...tell me how it was about 'states rights', and 'home rule'.
@XConfederateSoldierX RPHB IS FLAT OUT THE BIGGEST TROLL ON YOUTUBE TODAY. IT'S HIS LIFE MISSION AND THAT SPEAKS VOLUMES TO HIS LACK OF CHARACTER AND INTELLIGENCE.
@XConfederateSoldierX Johnny Cash would never murder American troops to try to defend your "cornerstone" of slavery and white supremacism. You're a fucking joke.
Southerners are welcome to make their own decisions about this flag, personally, I like it. I don't endorse racism, or judge people by the color of their skin; but to me, this flag, and the St. Andrew's cross, represent the struggle of people against bloated governments, uniting in the face of overwhelming odds and hardships, to defend their homes from a hostile invader. You don't have to like this flag, or see my point of view, but don't mount your holy high horse and call me a racist.
Davis did that because, the Union blockades made it where there was no goods and what was to be had went up in prices and the People revolted and set fire to the cities and rioted in the Streets and just like they do today in foreign Countries, those riots were insited by Skallawags ( greedy Union Traitors in the South)
HUMANSAREBENEATHME Has multiple accounts i susped that at first! Now that i see someone else suspects it 9i am now even more convinced RonPaulHatesBlacks -HUMANSAREBENEATHME and few others have multiple accounts.
@Ssmith5307 Stop with all the fucking lies! I am Yankee but i love the south and i am sick of the way the government is and if the south rises again they will have more support because a lot of us now see the south WAS RIGHT.
The average black person is bigger than the average white person, so we are going to beat ya'll up and steal all your women. We already got Obama so he's going to put all ya'll to work in the fields while your black masters whip you.
@Balotelliminustheego you can thank the white man for breeding your ancestors like work horses for generations. The farmers picked the biggest niggers to buy and bred em so the farm hand bitches picked cotton better.
Im sick and fucking tired of this assclown RonPaulHatesBlacks spamming all the southern videos and claiming that were all ignorent, dumb, and racist hicks. I really wish this fool would go somewhere....or better yet give me his address. I served RonPaulHatesBlacks, been shot at, mortered, rocketed, etc. Have you? Oh no thats right your punk ass has never left your computer chair cause your too busy spamming southern people. PLEASE THUMBS UP SO THIS ASSCLOWN CAN SEE
I've never claimed that any group of people is dumb or racist, much less "ignorent." By the way, you shouldn't cry about people calling you ignorant when you can't even spell the word correctly, and you're TOO STUPID AND LAZY to look it up in a dictionary. You've just proven to the entire world just how "ignorent" you really are.
Folks should be aware that rebel2276 is a LIAR and a COWARD. He claims that at page 62 of Grant: A Biography, William McFeely wrote that Ulysses Grant personally owned 12 slaves at "New Haven." That's a COMPLETE AND TOTAL LIE.
He also claims that his grandfather is a former Director of the CIA. That's a COMPLETE AND TOTAL LIE.
Now he claims that my name is Mark Douglas and that I have multiple accounts. That's yet another COMPLETE AND TOTAL LIE.
I only have one account, and the overwhelming majority of Americans agree with me. Sorry that makes you so angry.
The South is awesome. It's full of white people, black people, and all kinds of other people who love America, pledge their allegiance to ONE nation, under God, INDIVISIBLE, and would never turn traitor or kill American soldiers to try to preserve the confederacy's "cornerstone" of slavery and white supremacism.
@RonPaulHatesBlacks You do have more than one account, and I'm glad you can at least admit the South is awesome. Because it is. You like to drone on about the 'real reason' people honor the South -- as though it's anything other than because we live here, and we're proud of our States and our Nation. You should stop trolling videos to make incendiary and offensive remarks, period.
@RonPaulHatesBlacks Why do you come to these videos? There's nothing racist in this video, there's no 'Blacks should be enslaved,' or even 'They were doing the right thing keepin them blacks in chains,' -- or anything of the sort. All we've got are these songs, and maybe a few images of the Confederate flag, or some noble soldiers on BOTH sides dying in droves -- and all you want to do is 'You guys are white supremacists!" or 'You don't care about black people because you came to this video.'
Folks should be aware that rebel2276 is a liar. He claimed that William McFeely wrote at page 62 of Grant: A Biography that Ulysses S. Grant personally owned 12 slaves at "New Haven." That's a LIE--McFeely never wrote any such thing. The book is easy to verify, but he STILL claims that page 62 says that Grant owned 12 slaves at "New Haven"!
Then, rebel2276 claimed that his grandfather was the director of the CIA---another FLAT OUT LIE.
Now he claims my name is Mark---another FLAT OUT LIE.
No RonPaulHatesBlacks you said one half in yet another debate. You know the one where I was verbally abusing your half assed opinion so much you and your friends got my posts deleted because you cannot accept that you are only spouting off the the same old bull shit again and again on every song that has any pro southern implication. I repeat what I said there before it was removed: educate yourself.
Buddy, don't waste your time responding to RonPaulHates Blacks. He is a notorious troll. He doesn't have any "friends"! He has a bunch of "alter egos" Navy Beer, RooferHoofer along with MANY others. None of them have any real historical knowlege of the CW period
Neither RPHB or his "friends" have EVER contributed any intelligent comments, just half truths and lies!.
@Pillboxesghost "RonPaulHatesBlacks" aka Mark C. Douglas is a mentally challenged idiot, that never backs up anything types with sources. Look for "12FlyMe" or "SouthernFriendHoney" he will use them more. Just click on RPHB'S friend's list and all the "Friends" without pictures is just himself, lol. The idiot moved down to Texas of all places....
Sorry, spammer. I'm not "12FlyMe" or "SouthernFriendHoney," and my name certainly isn't Mark C. Douglas. Don't you ever stop lying? Don't you do ANY RESEARCH AT ALL before running your mouth?
@RonPaulHatesBlacks You can keep lying to yourself, but it looks like you got your ass handed to you on this video, lol. A bit strange Mark, that "12FLYME" also sent me a message at the same time you did. Ummm, lol. Mark what is so easy to detect you, you use kid words for insults. Let me comment to "12FLYMe" now, which is just going to be you again.
@RonPaulHatesBlacks Why would you have 50 sock accounts on your "Friend's" list??? Strange that you and Mark just happen to live in the same city in Texas. lol. Your Yahoo profile was interesting, arguing about the same shit on here as you do on there. Either Civil War or Taxes. Cover your tracks better.
Good God, you're a fucking retard. How the fuck would I know which "Friends" are sock accounts? I don't live in Texas, you fucking retard---my profile is a satire of Ron Paul. I've never had a "Yahoo profile," whatever the fuck that is. And I've never argued anything about taxes in my entire life.
You're projecting because you're a complete and total liar who's FLAT OUT LIED about Ulysses S. Grant, William McFeely, and YOUR OWN GRANDFATHER. You've chosen to live without HONOR or INTEGRITY.
Only one account here, boy. You're a proven LIAR and a COWARD. We the People can only hope that you die before your cowardice and incompetence claims the lives of more innocent American servicemen and women.
@RonPaulHatesBlacks Keep on typing that shit, lol A bit odd you would have 50 sock accounts under "RonPaulHatesBlacks" Why bother to add the same person (Yourself) 50 times? Keep up the "Thumbs down", I enjoy making you switch accounts, 3-5 times! I highly doubt anyone would give me thumbs down or you thumbs up on a "Rebel Pride" video. You got your ass torn up on this video, from everyone's comments, lol.
Ok now, switch back to 12FlyMe and give me more thumbs down, boy!
@RonPaulHatesBlacks You seem to spend all your time trolling these videos.I've talked to you before.You may remember me. Get a life dude.Seriously.I ain't even gonna fight with ya. Go get laid and kiss a few girls. Go drink some whiskey.
@Pillboxesghost He will try to play it off, that he is just one single screen name, in reality he uses close to 50 different ones. 12FlyMe, SouthernFriedHoney, Tax this or Tax that. Just stupid screen names he makes up. Then he will give "Himself" thumbs up. Notice my post from Yesterday "Received too many negative votes? That was him logging onto 50 accounts to do that, lol.
@RonPaulHatesBlacks That is a outlandish claim I have viewed and studied the census records every thing you claim is a lie every one that has studied true history
and historical documents not what the Lincoln cults write and claim to be true
the true history of South is being told and the lies that have been told to cover the Unions crime and hate are being exposed.
the south will never die. cause there will always be a country boy flyin the great flag of the csa.and believe it or not but the south is gettin ready to rise again. the government is goin to crash and the economy will fall and everyone will have to live off the land and all you damn city folks will perish. and the south will be once again. and to make everything better the KKK does exist still
crazyredneck191 5 months ago
If the war wasn't about Slavery , why were ALL the states in the CSA slave owning states ?
mollymu1 5 months ago
@mollymu1 -it wasnt.kentucky& texas didnt atleast .give or take 1% of the c.s.a. had slaves
southerneroak 3 months ago
@southerneroak Don't understand your reply
mollymu1 3 months ago
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Another nearly 200, 000 views. Against your wishes, you yankees still haven't faced the truth that the Confederacy will never go away. If you're honest in admitting that simple fact, you'd save your breath and time. If not, do us and yourself a favor, and just run the hell along. Sic Semper Tyrannis!
FastPonyGT 6 months ago
Wow! this really sucks. bad voice! he thinks he can sing!
koalah1977 6 months ago
As you could see from the video the flag aint racism, its heritage!!!
bigsasserify 6 months ago
pleeeeeees stay out of cali..
MrKleid 7 months ago
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see me personally if you got a problem with that
freeman2545 7 months ago
if you dont like this ....you fucking suck....
freeman2545 7 months ago
Amazing...Johnny Cash.... singing this tune.... Look out Chris Cornell! Rad! :D
This Yankee girl has come here...In the name of peace...to say our struggles have made us what we are today..and how we continue to evolve as a country - we do it together...as brothers and sisters...in the beginning we all came from someplace else (with the exception of the native peoples)..and we are all together here and now... as one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
sanjurodog 7 months ago
amen stonewalljackson86 AMEN!!
Ja72corbin 7 months ago 2
@XConfederateSoldierX stfu redneck
cheapcape 7 months ago
fuck the south
cheapcape 7 months ago
Great song by a great American. Johnny Cash may have passed over to a better place, yet his music will be with us forever.
spiritwolfbro 7 months ago
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Southerners are welcome to make their own decisions about this flag, personally, I like it. I don't endorse racism, or judge people by the color of their skin; but to me, this flag, and the St. Andrew's cross, represent the struggle of people against bloated governments, uniting in the face of overwhelming odds and hardships, to defend their homes from a hostile invader. You don't have to like this flag, or see my point of view, but don't mount your holy high horse and call me a racist.
StonewallJackson86 8 months ago 15
@StonewallJackson86 Dude the whole slave thing about the Confederates is a big fucking LIE the war between the states was about taxes not slavery.
BgKnoccoutGangstaDre 7 months ago
@BgKnoccoutGangstaDre You can't pin the war of northern aggression solely on any one issue, and yes, slavery was a part of it; but there were free black slave owners, and there were Southerners who risked their lives to teach slaves to read the Bible. Lots of people just don't understand, and belligerently cling to the 'racist Nazis' party line when asked why we might still treasure our flag. Today, this flag means the South, for all the good and bad -- that's all I want people to know.
StonewallJackson86 7 months ago
@StonewallJackson86 A large portion of white Southerners either 1. fought against the CSA. 2. Dissented politically against the CSA, and favored suing for peace with the US, or 3. Were indifferent to the war, and chose to stay out of it....so...that traitor's rag, DOES NOT "mean the South'". Rather, one group of Southerners who fomented a rebellion for the purpose of retaining their property. That regime was represented by any and all Confederate rags. Their only place, is in a museum.
UnionStatesHeritage 7 months ago
@BgKnoccoutGangstaDre dudemeister fag
cheapcape 7 months ago
@cheapcape U mad cause im right?
BgKnoccoutGangstaDre 7 months ago
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@BgKnoccoutGangstaDre "the South fought on account of the thing we quarreled with the North about. I never heard of any other cause for quarrel, than slavery"..Col. John Singleton Mosby
'We come to secession not on the issue of the tariff, but on the issue of slavery'...SC Congressman Lawrence Keit
UnionStatesHeritage 7 months ago 2
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@StonewallJackson86 Yep, people can fly whatever flag they want. It's a free country. People are also free to judge people's character based on their behavior.
Racist or not...Confederate flags represent a hostile enemy of the United States of America, which tried to destroy this country, and killed more US soldiers than any radical Muslim, or Fascist dictator. Slavery aside it still stands for...domestic terrorism, treason, and Civil War. Don't be surprised if it rubs people wrong.
UnionStatesHeritage 7 months ago
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@UnionStatesHeritage ...and as long as people in the South cling to this despicable "heritage" and try to justify it, don't be surprised if the rest of the nation judges you for it. Confederate Heritage is the same thing, as illegal aliens from Mexico, trying to declare Aztlan, or Muslims trying to impose Sharia Law on the American justice system...a hostile culture, which refuses to assimilate in OUR country. Southerners live in the USA, the rest of us DON'T live in the CSA. Live with it.
UnionStatesHeritage 7 months ago
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@UnionStatesHeritage If the Confederate flag belonged in a museum, what's it doing everywhere else? In pop culture, in old rock and roll -- I mean, were Bo and Luke Duke a bunch of traitors to the US government? Or Lynyrd Skynyrd? I didn't ask you to like it, approve of it, or particularly care. You're certainly welcome to your opinions, and I accept your views to be understandably hostile. Do you accept that a segment of American citizens in the South feel differently? Does your dissenting,
StonewallJackson86 7 months ago
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StonewallJackson86 7 months ago
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@UnionStatesHeritage emotional opinion trump all others? What other reason is there for coming to a page you obviously don't support, plaguing the comments with accusations of treason, righteous indignation and judgment? If it makes you feel better, I can't stop you from continuing to do so -- but you'll catch more flies with honey than vinegar, and all your arguments here seem to do is prolong the death of rather poor quality videos, keeping their view numbers up.
StonewallJackson86 7 months ago
@UnionStatesHeritage lol. What about my statements sound surprised at your judgment? I mean, you're all but saying 'If you fly this flag, you deserve their inaccurate and fallible judgments.' -- I'm sorry, sir, but that's simply not accurate. The Confederate flag means a plethora of different things to different people; obviously, to you, it's offensive. To others in this country, it is not. It's certainly not like Muslims trying to impose Sharia Law, either --
StonewallJackson86 7 months ago 2
@StonewallJackson86 LOL...YEAH...that's EXACTLY what I'm saying. Why? Because those "inaccurate and fallible judgments" are the result of what Southerners said about the war AT THE TIME, free of 21st Century political correctness. When a "culture" has to spend as much time trying to convince people of what it isn't, there's usually a good reason for it...like maybe it's reputation precedes it.
Yes it is...very similar. A hostile culture living in the US, and trying to impose its world view
UnionStatesHeritage 7 months ago
@UnionStatesHeritage But take your ideas, your moral judgment, and stop trying to incite offensive behavior on these message boards. It's amazing how 5 people liked your comment without a single one stopping to comment on it. I'm judging you for practicing intolerance while preaching against it, one of the lowest forms of hypocrisy -- tell me, truly, do you feel any different? That's how much impact your judgment has on me, as well.
StonewallJackson86 7 months ago 2
Respond to this video... Oh yeah...here it comes...you people are SO delightfully predictable. It's always the same bag of politically correct BS. YOU'RE the victim of intolerance & bigotry...despite the fact that Confederate vids DOMINATE Civil War threads on Y-Tube, and ALL of them are nothing but hives of hatred, and intolerance, themselves. Take your troupe of Gypsies, and play sad violin music, to someone who gives a damn.
UnionStatesHeritage 7 months ago
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Respond to this video... As far as this nonsense about the CSA representing struggle against bloated governments and invasion...The South controlled much of the government before the war, so if it was bloated, they had themselves to blame for it. Westerners were sick of Southern politicians telling they how to live, hence the election of 1860...Invasion..well, the South wouldn't have been invaded, if they hadn't attacked the USA and its people. You reap what you sow.
UnionStatesHeritage 7 months ago
@UnionStatesHeritage But for the record, I won't try to attack your points -- though I do feel that in a more suitable forum for academia, this would be a much more productive conversation. If you're educated enough to make those points, you should also know the counterpoints and rebuttal arguments; 500 characters isn't enough to delve into it. Make your own video, make a website; quit stalking these comments to bombard every supporter with rhetoric and controversy.
StonewallJackson86 7 months ago 2
@StonewallJackson86 I REALLY wish you would try. You can even drop the issue of slavery, if you like. What's so pathetic about CSA heritage, is that it can't stand on its owns claims, as to what the war was about, and why Southern states were supposedly fighting it.
Limited Government...nope
States Rights...nope
Taxes...nope
UnionStatesHeritage 7 months ago
@StonewallJackson86 Don't waste your finger tips, slick. This is a culture war. If you can't stand to get a little bloody, you best leave the battlefield. I'm not backing down, and I'm not going to go away.
LOL...I think it's hilarious...my comments which were spammed, were examples of Confederate heritage speaking for itself...unfiltered.
Get used to seeing more of that. There's a deep well of damning material. Your culture speaks eloquently for itself.
UnionStatesHeritage 7 months ago
@UnionStatesHeritage You're twisted, man. Your perceptions, facts and opinions are all pretty far off base, as far as I'm concerned; but hey, you're welcome to those opinions. You sound like Bill O'Reilly with this 'culture war' nonsense, even though I do find your rather hostile position to Hispanics and Islam pretty comical. This farcical affront to academic debate is little more than ranting and raving. I wish you would let the culture to speak for itself, --
StonewallJackson86 7 months ago
@StonewallJackson86 Damn right I'm twisted... It takes a Mongoose to kill a Cobra. Nope, my perceptions and facts are completely on base, and that makes you nervous.
I'm hostile to Hispanics and Muslims who come here and try to impose their culture on the nation at large. Exactly what Confederate heritage, and its supporters have been trying to do, for the past 100 years. If y'all are unhappy with losing the war...emigrate.
UnionStatesHeritage 7 months ago
@UnionStatesHeritage It's so funny how somebody with the name UnitedStatesHeritage, knows nothing of United States Heritage. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!
branman864 6 months ago
@branman864 What's up branman? Long time no hear from. I've recently renamed him UnionStatesGarbage and he didn't seem to mind. lol
FastPonyGT 1 month ago
@UnionStatesHeritage rather than assaulting everyone celebrating it as hostile, treasonous anti-Americans. It's not my fault Confederate vids may be in excess on Youtube, but I doubt there's a shortage of material in whichever genre you find enjoyable -- why do you linger here if it's unappealing to you? Do you need the attention of the people you're insulting? Personally, I generally don't see a 'hive of intolerance and hatred' in Johnny Cash, but whatever floats your boat, I guess.
StonewallJackson86 7 months ago
@StonewallJackson86 Of course you don't see it. Blindness is a side-effect of Kool-Aid poisoning.
Uh yeah, since the Confederacy was a hostile, treasonous, mortal enemy of the United States, I think characterizing the people who celebrate it, support it's principles, and work towards "doing it again", is quite fair, and accurate.
UnionStatesHeritage 7 months ago
@UnionStatesHeritage Hate who you want to hate, and if that happens to be me, then I imagine its my cross to bear. But realize it's still hate that you're peddling here, and stop trying to dress it up as some noble crusade in this imaginary battlefield. Do you really think that anything will be decided as a result of your participation in YTC flamewars? Are you so threatened by the South 'rising again' that you feel a need to go on the offensive?
StonewallJackson86 7 months ago
@StonewallJackson86 Awww, sweetie, it's nothing personal, and it's not about you. It's about the despicable culture you venerate. Nope, not some noble crusade. That's what some Yankee Dudley Do Right would waste his time with. I'm fighting the kind of war, CSA supporters are fighting...savage, honorless, guerrilla warfare.
UnionStatesHeritage 7 months ago
Respond to this video... Yeah...the YTC...a prime example of what Confederate heritage is all about. The topics of their discussion forums were very illuminating. Among other things...using the US military as a training ground for future wars against the US, soliciting help from foreign enemies of the USA, attacking US bases, and killing US soldiers, in an effort to steal equipment & weapons (including nukes), to supply the new Confederate army with.
UnionStatesHeritage 7 months ago
Respond to this video... And you people wonder why the rest of the nation hates you and your despicable culture. I find it amusing that YOU are a supporter of that group, and they are on your own friend's list, and you pretend not to see the hatred.
This culture is what it is, what it always has been, and always will be. It needs to be destroyed.
UnionStatesHeritage 7 months ago
@UnionStatesHeritage Slow down there, sir. I won't deny you make decent points, or that I'm a friend of the YTC, or that many of their views and mine are not in sync. I'm also quite capable of re-reading familiar source material, rather than needing it copy and pasted. For the record, good luck in all your endeavors. Especially with trying to convince your opposition to emigrate, because that's always worked so well historically. If this is how you define Confederate heritage, so be it.
StonewallJackson86 7 months ago
@UnionStatesHeritage I feel no need to answer your lengthy quotes with rebuttals, though I think you should be able to locate some if you search thoroughly -- they're certainly out there. But don't take my word for it, I'm blind from Kool Aid poisoning because I don't see the intolerance in this old song and grainy pictures. You do realize, that by venturing here to stir up the proverbial hornets nest, all you really accomplish is prolonging the death of these videos?
StonewallJackson86 7 months ago
@UnionStatesHeritage Keep on hashing it out, bringing more views to this video -- which has 482 likes, 51 dislikes, and evidently, absent of a whole lot of societal judgment. I love that you can quote from the YTC boards, though again, I think it lends to your deluded paranoia. If you think I'm nervous, it's only due to your particular belligerence with this issue -- that kind of blind hostility is unhealthy. But for record, don't characterize this as war; --
StonewallJackson86 7 months ago
@StonewallJackson86 HAHAHA...deluded paranoia...really? Your culture is fueled by that very condition. Like I said, mind your own side of the fence, before you worry about mine.
Yep, this is a war, alright. Granted, it's kind of lame as wars go, but it's one that still needs to be fought.
Yep, that kind of hostility is very unhealthy, and it's SO much bloody good fun, poisoning the Confederate beast, with its own venom.
UnionStatesHeritage 7 months ago
@UnionStatesHeritage Paranoia and delusions of grandeur, for the record. Really, mind my side of the fence? You contacted MY original post with your misguided rhetorical opinions, and are even here at what I guess we can call my video. Why aren't you at a support the Union site? You know, I don't see Confederate trolls spamming God Bless America pages with such vehemence -- maybe I'm just missing all the bloody good fun? Oh well, I guess it's the high price of class and character.
StonewallJackson86 7 months ago
@StonewallJackson86 Oh Confederate trolls have tried to set up their Kool Aid stand on Union Vids. Problem is, they can't stand the heat, once they're no longer surrounded by their own cocoon of revisionist bull shit, and they end up spouting some pathetic platitude like "Deo Vindice", declaring victory, and running back to the collective hive, to munch on some more royal jelly, pop in a DVD of Gods & Generals, and beat off, until they feel better.
UnionStatesHeritage 7 months ago
@UnionStatesHeritage Is that right? So you followed them to their 'revisionist cocoons,' because you didn't get a decisive sense of victory from arguments on those pages? And hey man, I'd rather beat off watching Gods & Generals than while pasting one sided propaganda all over Youtube. Though neither option particularly sounds appealing. So hey, is AlexReb92 one of your pathological mortal enemies for making this video? Is he really crazier than you? You tell me, buddy.
StonewallJackson86 7 months ago
I don't need to mind my side of the fence. Union vids are models of decorum compared to CSA vids, or ANY other Confederate web site, organization, or what not.
UnionStatesHeritage 7 months ago
@UnionStatesHeritage because war requires courage, honor and sacrifice. What we're doing here is not combat, it's dialogue at best, though more closely resembling aimless dialogue and drunk arguments. Is this how you explain yourself, justify your actions? By posting excerpts you consider relevant to your point, then daring people to challenge you? I've lost my taste for random arguments based on Googled facts. It scares me to think that you're as smugly enamored with war as the YTC extremists.
StonewallJackson86 7 months ago
@StonewallJackson86 What utter nonsense. War requires you to be better at killing soldiers and breaking stuff, than your enemy. That's why its called 'war'. Hardly aimless, and I'm definitely stone cold sober, at the moment. I'm dong neither, I'm simply employing classic martial arts strategy... using my enemy's tactics and strength against him. I leave the explaining and justifications to others.
Googled facts? Facts are facts, regardless of the source...
UnionStatesHeritage 7 months ago
@UnionStatesHeritage You know, the pathetic part here is that it almost seems like you'd be glad for some kind of conflict, if only to serve those traitors one last blow. I'm an apologist, and the reason radicals can gain power, for being the voice of reason? Really? Sure buddy, you're definitely not twisted at all, you're grounded in solid reality -- so get back to the front lines of your culture war, you don't want to risk losing.. what exactly?
StonewallJackson86 7 months ago
@UnionStatesHeritage It's interesting for you to call anything nonsense as you spout off about martial tactics in this internet flame war. Using your enemies' tactics and strengths -- uh, what exactly, making your own videos? Gathering a group of like minded supporters together in some kind of youtube community? Or, oh.. that's right. You're invading these pages, running at the mouth, and trying to stir up controversy. That'll stop' em coming back, sure.
StonewallJackson86 7 months ago
@StonewallJackson86 Hmmmm...what's crazier. Responding to these offensive vids, which ARE anti-USA, racist, and what not, or posting them in the first place. Chicken or egg Luv? Explain it to me.
UnionStatesHeritage 7 months ago
@UnionStatesHeritage Responding to these videos, every time. Dude, you can have a million arguments over the EXACT same point with a million different people in these message boards -- how much time do you think he spent on this vid? 20 minutes? Oh yeah, we definitely need to lock up that crazy hippie Confederate up for being a danger to society.
StonewallJackson86 7 months ago
@StonewallJackson86 lol...and you think I'm a twisted individual. It's not the individual that's the problem. It's the greater culture...which has gone from posting lame vids, to using these vids as a recruitment tool for Neo-Confederate militias...like the ones promoted by your buddies at the YTC. Who the hell do you think you're talking to here? I know how this culture works, so drop the pretense that this all just harmless. BTW...WHY are YOU still supporting the YTC?
UnionStatesHeritage 7 months ago
@UnionStatesHeritage LOL. Ooookay. It's not the individual video makers that's the problem, its the whole community -- and it's not that their videos are offensive, it's that they're using them to recruit domestic terrorists. That's definitely what Alex was up to when he made this video, nail on the head. I joined the YTC because I liked the points of a couple of its members; I didn't realize it was an abandoned shell of an organization, and I'm too lazy to remove it. And hey, for the record, --
StonewallJackson86 7 months ago
@StonewallJackson86 Stop playing stupid. I was pointing out a PROGRESSION of activity. That is the way radicals, and their drones operate, and if such activity was so damned innocent, there would be no reason for organizations like the FBI to exist. Ever hear of Hutaree?
I know Alex. He's friended on my personal page...WolfencrowMedia. Alex probably hasn't had much to do with these vids for some time. However, they're still popular with the Kool-Aid drinkers.
UnionStatesHeritage 7 months ago
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@UnionStatesHeritage Hey man, for the record, I wasn't playing all that stupid -- I just haven't been here all that long, and I genuinely suppose that ignorance is bliss. Still, I have a few problems. Why would a few radicals make you give up on a project you considered important, shouldn't that make you buckle down and strive harder to increase relations? I really am tickled that you know this vid's creator and seem to like him, but apply your bad experience with YTC to his supporters.
StonewallJackson86 7 months ago
@StonewallJackson86 It's not the radicals that made me give up. It was the lack of condemnation from so-called mainstream Rebeldom. It's not hard to figure out...the nastiest comments are always the ones with the highest ratings. Again, the culture speaks for itself. I wasted way too much time on such worthless endeavors. You can't wrap fire with paper, and you can't improve relations with a culture that is hate driven.
LOL...for awhile though, I WAS a Neville Chamberlain...pathetic really
UnionStatesHeritage 7 months ago
Respond to this video... Funny you should mention Alex. We used to share a channel, back when I WAS deluded into believing that you could compromise with this culture. Yep, we opened up a channel, which was supposed to be about mutual respect for both Union & Confederates. It was increasingly high jacked by CSA supporters trolling their hate, so with his permission, I pulled the plug on the project.
UnionStatesHeritage 7 months ago
@UnionStatesHeritage I accept your seniority in these matters, evidently you've spent a lot of time "in the trenches" of this culture war. And if you say the YTC is actively recruiting terrorist Neo Confederates in the South, then I believe ya. That must be where they all go when they get tired of arguing with you -- maybe someone should warn the feds those dangerous Neo Confederate militias are on the rise? Oh, I have a better idea -- lets just piss on the First Amendment and take'em off YT.
StonewallJackson86 7 months ago
@StonewallJackson86 LOL...you must be a liberal. The First Amendment DOES NOT cover conspiracy to commit acts of domestic terrorism. The YTC was doing EXACTLY what the Hutaree people were doing. They just never had the chance to put anything they were discussing, into action.
UnionStatesHeritage 7 months ago 2
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@UnionStatesHeritage But you're right, the First Amendment does not cover conspiracy to violence of any nature; except that to bullshit on internet message boards is one thing, to plot commit an act of terrorism requires far more in-depth thought. The book Lone Wolf has been blamed for OKC, but we still don't burn or ban it. I don't know if there have ever been conspiracy charges filed for net chatter, but I don't suppose there were any arrests made for this crime?
StonewallJackson86 7 months ago
@StonewallJackson86 I'm not in favor of banning anything. I want to see Confederate Heritage destroyed the old fashioned way...peer pressure. I'm not in favor of laws banning flags, or what not. I'm in favor of the stigma of supporting this heritage not being worth the trouble of supporting it. That's gonna take some time, but it will happen. The Confederate beast will be killed by making a thousand tiny cuts, through which its own slobbering venom, can effectively poison it.
UnionStatesHeritage 7 months ago
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@UnionStatesHeritage For the record, I actually had to Google Hutaree, but from what I understand the Michigan Militia backed out on them and complied fully with the Feds, which allowed for the arrest of 9 ringleaders? Not to mount this argument in defense of the weekend warrior Militiamen, but I don't believe we need to bring back the Sedition acts for a bunch of internet yokels. Were those people even on the internet at the time? And I'm sorry if that makes such a big difference in the --
StonewallJackson86 7 months ago
@StonewallJackson86 No, I don't think we need to bring back Sedition Acts. Again, I never lost sight of the fact that these people were clowns, and yes, I taunted them mercilessly about that very fact.
One thing about the kind of commentary you read on these vids, or any other CSA heritage site. You rarely ever see any Southerners condemning the hate, and when it does happen, its always the same...the individual is attacked by his own kind, and stripped of his/her Southerness...
UnionStatesHeritage 7 months ago
@StonewallJackson86 ...I've witnessed that very thing happen on more than one occasion. Again, it really shows the culture for what it is, and that culture does not deviate from its savagery. Frankly, one thing I've learned from Confederate Heritage...Southerners are not true Americans (except in regards to geographic location) in the sense that people from other regions are. On the surface, they come from the same root culture, but in reality, they're
UnionStatesHeritage 7 months ago
@StonewallJackson86 they are nothing like us. Southerners are Europeans who never left Europe. They still celebrate their tribal hatreds, and carefully pass it on to successive generations. They're reminiscent of a North American version of the Balkan peoples. Years ago, I would never have had such views, but your culture has made a believer outta me.
UnionStatesHeritage 7 months ago
@StonewallJackson86 I'm sure that won't set well with you, but that's exactly the conclusion I have come to. No other region of the nation (even Kansans, who have a legitimate right to HATE the South), continue to hold Civil War grudges, and try to maintain this bizarre, notion of cultural xenophobia, that Southerners love to wallow in.
Sorry, not trying to be mean, just stating things how I see them.
UnionStatesHeritage 7 months ago 2
@UnionStatesHeritage Since you brought it up, though, I went and checked in at the YTC Channel. Nothing offensive or intolerant there, either. The most recent conversation I read was anti-racism and Confederate imagery, all-in-all a rather wholesome and easy read. I think I missed the memo about the deadline to join up at the local militia, though. Maybe it's subliminal and my subconscious was unreceptive, you can never be too sure with those crafty Neo Confederates.
StonewallJackson86 7 months ago
@StonewallJackson86 Yawn...again, playing stupid. You-tube pulled the groups function 6 mos. ago, and the YTC's forums went with it. However, I understand they are still active on Ning, and I'm pretty sre they are still affiliated with the Confederate States Militia, on that site.
Yeah, we had a rumble about a year ago, and I called them out in public, about their activity, so yes, they got way more 'crafty'.
UnionStatesHeritage 7 months ago 2
@UnionStatesHeritage Yep, the scumbag who runs the joint, LSskimandsk8 said the same thing you did..."you're crazy". He got real upset though, when I posted quotes from their discussion forums, detailing EXACTLY the kind of behavior he swore up and down, the YTC did not condone. Not only that, he refused to eject the members involved in the discussion. Like I said dude, I KNOW this culture.
UnionStatesHeritage 7 months ago 2
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@UnionStatesHeritage But honestly, you know THIS culture -- which I really don't intend to mean THE Southern Confederate culture. Just the entrepreneurial radicals, rather than the people who take the struggles and hardships handed down to them seriously, like the small town boys who still live on the land their Grandfathers handed down. But back on topic, if you seriously think the YTC people are dangerous enough to be criminally pursued, why would you risk lives by stirring them to action?
StonewallJackson86 7 months ago
@StonewallJackson86 Here's the problem with this line of thought. Confederate Culture IS radical. It IS hate-filled, it IS about destroying the USA...and has been since day one. Even before that, if you count the decades of discord fomented by Southern Fire Eaters.
There's plenty of small town boys in the North, Midwest, and West, who live the same kind of life, and they don't go around promoting Union Civil War Heritage, and attacking the South, in the way the South attacks the USA.
UnionStatesHeritage 7 months ago
@UnionStatesHeritage But listen. I grew up in a place where I had to stand for the Black National Anthem, and got Confederate Memorial Day off. There was a sect of Bloods that adopted the Confederate flag, but you still couldn't wear it in school. I have a beautiful painting of the Monitor and the Merrimac, and most of my black friends like it. My Grandfather told me stories about his Grandfather fending crazy Yankee looters off of our family land. I grew up in the South, and I'm proud of it.
StonewallJackson86 7 months ago
@StonewallJackson86 Yeah, lots of Southern families have those stories, and a lot of them supposedly occurred in places where the Union Army never even marched through. You are aware that Lee was a better thief in my home state, than Sherman was in Georgia? According to my old timers, one of my ancestors was killed by Confederate snipers, while drawing water from his well. No doubt, shot in the back.
UnionStatesHeritage 7 months ago 2
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@UnionStatesHeritage argument, but there's too much anonymity and distance online to effectively coordinate something like that; it's a very different thing when people have to hand out pamphlets and face their recruits. Would you REALLY be in favor of an Internet Conspiratorial Sedition act? -- But okay, so you spied on the YTC, right? Can I see anything you've got left over from that rumble? Not to come off as a 'prove it' statement, either, I'd just like to form my own opinion.
StonewallJackson86 7 months ago
@StonewallJackson86 Nope, I wouldn't . Frankly, I'm glad people like the YTC exist. They serve as a perfect example of what this heritage is. RedShirtArmy does a pretty good job of it, as well.
Actually, you can IF you can view the vid. Some of it occurred on public forum, and it is part of the comment scroll on...Cenk Of The Young Turk Debates Confederate History Monty...problem though...I went to the vid to post in on my channel, and it is now evidently a private vid...
UnionStatesHeritage 7 months ago
@StonewallJackson86 ...I was on the vid about 3 mos ago, and it was still public. I'm going to send a message, asking if I can post it to my channel. Make no mistake, I'm fully aware that these people are clowns. On the other hand, recent events in Norway, also show, that you can't dismiss them entirely. I in fact, called Home Land Security...just to cover my bets. You'd be surprised how difficult it is, to even find someone to talk to, but when I finally connected with an agent, & ....
UnionStatesHeritage 7 months ago
@StonewallJackson86 explained what I saw, I got the response I expected (and rightly so)...it was low priority.
Now, interestingly enough, I used to be friends with Rebel2276...another one of those 'moderate' CSA supporters, who claims he's a 'scholar', as well as active duty military, serving in Iraq..supposedly in some kind of administrative level. We exchanged some PM's over a couple of months...
UnionStatesHeritage 7 months ago
@UnionStatesHeritage ...everything was okay, albeit he was more right wing than even I am. Well, things got bizarre, when he started discussing his and his "associates" (assuming military buddies) working plans to bring about a military coup. He had it pretty well thought out...including "neutralizing the police and military personnel, in charge of security in D.C. I found it disturbing, but at that time, I was still pretty naive about such things, and told no one...
UnionStatesHeritage 7 months ago
@UnionStatesHeritage ...according to this joker, about a couple of months later, he claimed that he and his associates had decided not to pursue such a course of action. Now, I have my doubts that this individual is in fact active duty military. If he is, it doesn't speak well for the military's profiling abilities. I wrote him off as a clown, but what if I had been wrong?
BTW...I keep most of my messages, so his PM's should still be available, but I might have to dig for them.
UnionStatesHeritage 7 months ago
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@UnionStatesHeritage But also, from my point of view man, you're damn if you do and damned if you don't -- let me be upfront about that. If you really believe these people are dangerous and a serious threat to national security, then you're not doing enough about it -- antagonizing the 'new recruits,' and stirring up the 'veterans,' by deliberately insulting culture that your 'enemies' hold dear, is not even close to an effective, rational or understandable solution. It's just bitterness.
StonewallJackson86 7 months ago
Respond to this video... cont...and Google Books IS a very good source of information...but not my only one.
Hmmm....there IS a certain dark beauty to warfare, otherwise people would not have been enamored with it. since the dawn of time. Now I must confess...nothing would please more than to get a crack at the Confederacy. Finish it once and for all, like we should have done, the first time around. Unfortunately, I'm destined for disappointment. So, this will have to suffice.
UnionStatesHeritage 7 months ago
@UnionStatesHeritage Of course you're so eager, but you wouldn't do anything like take the time to dedicate a life of service to catching -- get this, not just Neo- Confederates, but all of America's enemies, foreign OR domestic. Would you believe there's an entire Bureau of Investigation for just that sort of thing? But, for the record, I haven't heard of any high profile Southern arrests, unless you count Casey Anthony. Maybe it won't hold your interests as 4 years of dedicated YT service.
StonewallJackson86 7 months ago
@UnionStatesHeritage The thing both the supporters and detractors of these vids seem to longing for are discernible sides -- I don't preach any hatred or violence, racism or other nefarious points of view. The opinions are scattered across a huge spectrum, with marginal support categorized into "like" and "dislike." Your delusions of grandeur are especially disturbing when you allude to the judgment of the whole country on the South -- people you call 'mortal enemies,' and 'traitors.'
StonewallJackson86 7 months ago
@StonewallJackson86 "I don't preach any hatred or violence"...nope, you just support the culture and people who do. Your an apologist. People like you are the reason why radicals are able to gain any political power, at all.
MY delusions of grandeur? I'm just a simple foot soldier.
There you go again...confusing "The South", with the Confederacy. Confederate Southerners & their supporters, WERE our mortal enemies, and still are.
UnionStatesHeritage 7 months ago
@UnionStatesHeritage You've lost sight of leading by example, ( and I guess I have, too ) -- but at least my goal isn't to stir up opinionated distress through literary vitriol. The more furiously you combat these sentiments, the further you will escalate the situation -- nobody comes to watch these videos, just to engage in these petty discussions. Your tactics don't seem to be succeeding at anything other than recruiting more Confederate defenders. Good job.
StonewallJackson86 7 months ago
@StonewallJackson86 I'm not trying to lead in any capacity. Besides, been through all of that high fallutin nonsense. There's no compromising with this culture. I really think you should mind your own side of the fence, before worrying about mine. Your culture wrote the book on the employment of literary vitriol. I'm simply employing the same tactics. Actually, compared to four years ago, Confederate Heritage on You-tube is stagnated. There are more Union supporters than there used to be...
UnionStatesHeritage 7 months ago
@StonewallJackson86 ...on these threads, and what is gratifying is the fact that several, are Southerners who identify with...Southern Unionists. Southern Unionism is a CW topic that is finally getting noticed, by Civil War discussion, and the people leading the charge are Southerners. Authors like David Williams, and Victoria Bynum. Now THAT is something that makes your culture very nervous, indeed.
UnionStatesHeritage 7 months ago
@UnionStatesHeritage You're so eager to assign labels and create some fictitious enemy, and the fact that you've been doing this for four years is borderline pathological. Nervous? Really? By renewed interest in the Civil War, of any kind? Do you attribute the stagnation with your efforts, did you "win" yet? What is your goal here? Obviously, Rebel Pride is still here. Obviously, I'm confused; Elvis sang Dixie, yet he was certainly 100 year old treasonous, mortal enemy of the US in1960.
StonewallJackson86 7 months ago
@StonewallJackson86 Damn, I'm having a good laugh over this one. So, all the lame CSA supporters who post these disgusting vids are NOT pathological? Like I said...it takes a Mongoose to defeat a Cobra.
UnionStatesHeritage 7 months ago
@UnionStatesHeritage Look at this kid's page and tell me he's your mortal enemy, please. His entire background is 'Make peace, not war' -- but I guess he's another one of your apologist casualties, right? The expendable targets that allow those nasty internet radicals to gain threatening political power. AlexReb92 probably hasn't even looked at this video in quite some time, and uh, no. Creating a video isn't nearly as pathological as 4 years of trolling videos.
StonewallJackson86 7 months ago
@UnionStatesHeritage I'm aware that you'd like a list of reasons for my Southern pride, so that you may attempt to dismember and attack those reasons in another 500-words-or-less diatribe. I don't care what you think of the South's reasons for fighting the war, although I think you're eager to oversimplify the situation into something you can turn into an offensive punchline. You should examine your own reasons for being here instead of attempting to assess and judge the reasons of others.
StonewallJackson86 7 months ago
@StonewallJackson86 Haha, Bless your heart...there you go...assuming that Confederate heritage is the same as Southern heritage. It's not. Just another example of the politically correct arrogance, that sustains this messed up culture. It's not a matter of speculation. Confederates were clear as to their reasons for starting a civil war. Clarify not simplify...big difference. I know why I'm here...I believe in taking the fight to the enemy.
UnionStatesHeritage 7 months ago
Respond to this video... The Confederate states "unblushingly proclaim that slavery is to be the normal condition, this Southern millennium which they are about to introduce; and, that they, as the superior race, are bound by the law of Divine Providence to hold the sons and daughters of Africa in perpetual bondage."
"Our sympathies cannot go with the Southern states, who, in the second half of the nineteenth century, are proclaiming...
UnionStatesHeritage 7 months ago
Respond to this video... cont...a doctrine, the foulest and most revolting to ever be enunciated since our blessed Redeemer, hung upon the cross of shame, and bore away the sins of the world. Sympathy with the Southern states! We have as much sympathy with them, as with a gang of robbers, or a crew of pirates".
THAT was the assessment by Scotland's Presbyterians, at the beginning of the CW, of the South's self-professed reasons, for starting the conflict.
UnionStatesHeritage 7 months ago
Respond to this video... I especially enjoyed finding that perspective on the war, because according to 21st Century revisionists, the Confederate cause shares some kind of spiritual kinship, with Scottish people, and culture. However, it doesn't look like Scotland was feeling the love, at the time. Interestingly enough. Scotland is home to the only known CW memorial, on foreign soil. It's a memorial to Scots who fought in the UNION Army. Hmmmmm.
UnionStatesHeritage 7 months ago
Respond to this video... Now, on to the notion that Confederate pride, and Southern pride, are exclusively interchangeable..."we prefer to remain attached to the government of our fathers. The Constitution of the United States has done us no wrong. The Congress of the United States has passed no law to oppress us. The President of the United States has made no threat against the law-abiding people of Tennessee. Under the Government of the United States we have enjoyed as a nation...
UnionStatesHeritage 7 months ago
@StonewallJackson86 cont...more of civil and religious freedom than any other people under the whole heaven. We believe that there is not cause for rebellion or secession on the part of the people of Tennessee.
None was assigned by the legislature, in their miscalled Declaration of Independence. No adequate cause can be assigned. The Select Committee of that body asserted a gross and inexcusable falsehood in their address to the people of Tennessee...
UnionStatesHeritage 7 months ago
@StonewallJackson86 cont...when they declared that the Government of the United States has made war upon them. The secession cause has thus far been sustained by deception and falsehood: by falsehood to the action of Congress, by false dispatches as to battles that were never fought, and victories that were never won; by false accounts as to the purposes of the President, by false representations as to the views of Union men, and by false pretenses...
UnionStatesHeritage 7 months ago
@StonewallJackson86 cont...as to the facility with which the secession troops would take control of the Capital, and capture the highest officers of Government. The cause of secession or rebellion has no charms for us, and its progress has been marked by the most alarming and dangerous attacks upon the public liberty.
In other states, as well as our own, its whole course threatens to annihilate the last vestige of freedom...
Wow...now THERE's something you won't read in "The South Was Right"
UnionStatesHeritage 7 months ago
Respond to this video... That declaration by the citizens of East Tennessee was an example of sentiments that existed throughout the South. What's interesting is the Confederate Regime's response...declaring those citizens to be 'traitors', invading East Tennessee, arresting, terrorizing and murdering anyone who dissented, and forcing East TN into the CSA, at bayonet point.
Yeah...tell me how it was about 'states rights', and 'home rule'.
UnionStatesHeritage 7 months ago
I don't agree with Slavery! Never have...Never will! But I'm pround of my Heritage! All of us are proud, right?
TheBookWorm48 8 months ago 3
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@XConfederateSoldierX RPHB IS FLAT OUT THE BIGGEST TROLL ON YOUTUBE TODAY. IT'S HIS LIFE MISSION AND THAT SPEAKS VOLUMES TO HIS LACK OF CHARACTER AND INTELLIGENCE.
FastPonyGT 8 months ago 22
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@XConfederateSoldierX Johnny Cash would never murder American troops to try to defend your "cornerstone" of slavery and white supremacism. You're a fucking joke.
RonPaulHatesBlacks 8 months ago
great song , be proud of who you are and where you are from . let no one tell you different !
dave2806 8 months ago
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Southerners are welcome to make their own decisions about this flag, personally, I like it. I don't endorse racism, or judge people by the color of their skin; but to me, this flag, and the St. Andrew's cross, represent the struggle of people against bloated governments, uniting in the face of overwhelming odds and hardships, to defend their homes from a hostile invader. You don't have to like this flag, or see my point of view, but don't mount your holy high horse and call me a racist.
StonewallJackson86 8 months ago
Davis did that because, the Union blockades made it where there was no goods and what was to be had went up in prices and the People revolted and set fire to the cities and rioted in the Streets and just like they do today in foreign Countries, those riots were insited by Skallawags ( greedy Union Traitors in the South)
badlandskukluxklan 8 months ago
alexreb check out my videos k i bet you'll love'em
Stuart4791 9 months ago
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you do have many accounts
Ssmith5307 9 months ago
HUMANSAREBENEATHME Has multiple accounts i susped that at first! Now that i see someone else suspects it 9i am now even more convinced RonPaulHatesBlacks -HUMANSAREBENEATHME and few others have multiple accounts.
Ssmith5307 9 months ago
@Ssmith5307 Stop with all the fucking lies! I am Yankee but i love the south and i am sick of the way the government is and if the south rises again they will have more support because a lot of us now see the south WAS RIGHT.
Ssmith5307 9 months ago
The average black person is bigger than the average white person, so we are going to beat ya'll up and steal all your women. We already got Obama so he's going to put all ya'll to work in the fields while your black masters whip you.
Balotelliminustheego 9 months ago
@Balotelliminustheego you can thank the white man for breeding your ancestors like work horses for generations. The farmers picked the biggest niggers to buy and bred em so the farm hand bitches picked cotton better.
xcatreyux 8 months ago
DIXIE FLAG=GOOD TOILET PAPER
HUMANSAREBENEATHME 9 months ago 3
Cool song i like rebels and the south
crazyfabio1 9 months ago
Im sick and fucking tired of this assclown RonPaulHatesBlacks spamming all the southern videos and claiming that were all ignorent, dumb, and racist hicks. I really wish this fool would go somewhere....or better yet give me his address. I served RonPaulHatesBlacks, been shot at, mortered, rocketed, etc. Have you? Oh no thats right your punk ass has never left your computer chair cause your too busy spamming southern people. PLEASE THUMBS UP SO THIS ASSCLOWN CAN SEE
final1 10 months ago
I've never claimed that any group of people is dumb or racist, much less "ignorent." By the way, you shouldn't cry about people calling you ignorant when you can't even spell the word correctly, and you're TOO STUPID AND LAZY to look it up in a dictionary. You've just proven to the entire world just how "ignorent" you really are.
RonPaulHatesBlacks 10 months ago
@RonPaulHatesBlacks So I fat fingered a few keys, ever happen to you? Oh thats right, your perfect....other than your skin color
final1 10 months ago
What's wrong with my skin color, fat boy?
RonPaulHatesBlacks 10 months ago 3
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@RonPaulHatesBlacks It's actually your big potty mouth. Clean it up!
FastPonyGT 8 months ago
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Folks should be aware that rebel2276 is a LIAR and a COWARD. He claims that at page 62 of Grant: A Biography, William McFeely wrote that Ulysses Grant personally owned 12 slaves at "New Haven." That's a COMPLETE AND TOTAL LIE.
He also claims that his grandfather is a former Director of the CIA. That's a COMPLETE AND TOTAL LIE.
Now he claims that my name is Mark Douglas and that I have multiple accounts. That's yet another COMPLETE AND TOTAL LIE.
Go back to trolling for little girls, COWARD.
RonPaulHatesBlacks 10 months ago 5
@RonPaulHatesBlacks You do have multiple accounts and the reason is cause NO ONE ELSE AGREES WITH YOU SORRY ASS. The south is awesome.
Ssmith5307 9 months ago
I only have one account, and the overwhelming majority of Americans agree with me. Sorry that makes you so angry.
The South is awesome. It's full of white people, black people, and all kinds of other people who love America, pledge their allegiance to ONE nation, under God, INDIVISIBLE, and would never turn traitor or kill American soldiers to try to preserve the confederacy's "cornerstone" of slavery and white supremacism.
RonPaulHatesBlacks 9 months ago
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@RonPaulHatesBlacks You do have more than one account, and I'm glad you can at least admit the South is awesome. Because it is. You like to drone on about the 'real reason' people honor the South -- as though it's anything other than because we live here, and we're proud of our States and our Nation. You should stop trolling videos to make incendiary and offensive remarks, period.
StonewallJackson86 9 months ago
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@RonPaulHatesBlacks Why do you come to these videos? There's nothing racist in this video, there's no 'Blacks should be enslaved,' or even 'They were doing the right thing keepin them blacks in chains,' -- or anything of the sort. All we've got are these songs, and maybe a few images of the Confederate flag, or some noble soldiers on BOTH sides dying in droves -- and all you want to do is 'You guys are white supremacists!" or 'You don't care about black people because you came to this video.'
StonewallJackson86 8 months ago
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TheSSgator15 9 months ago
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Folks should be aware that rebel2276 is a liar. He claimed that William McFeely wrote at page 62 of Grant: A Biography that Ulysses S. Grant personally owned 12 slaves at "New Haven." That's a LIE--McFeely never wrote any such thing. The book is easy to verify, but he STILL claims that page 62 says that Grant owned 12 slaves at "New Haven"!
Then, rebel2276 claimed that his grandfather was the director of the CIA---another FLAT OUT LIE.
Now he claims my name is Mark---another FLAT OUT LIE.
RonPaulHatesBlacks 10 months ago
0:51 and people say this flag is racist
ibycubysd 11 months ago
hahhaa i love how people get so upset over the reble flag cuz u think its racist. alright its racist...alright? now what?
wyattbowden 11 months ago
No RonPaulHatesBlacks you said one half in yet another debate. You know the one where I was verbally abusing your half assed opinion so much you and your friends got my posts deleted because you cannot accept that you are only spouting off the the same old bull shit again and again on every song that has any pro southern implication. I repeat what I said there before it was removed: educate yourself.
TheUlfr 11 months ago
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Buddy, don't waste your time responding to RonPaulHates Blacks. He is a notorious troll. He doesn't have any "friends"! He has a bunch of "alter egos" Navy Beer, RooferHoofer along with MANY others. None of them have any real historical knowlege of the CW period
Neither RPHB or his "friends" have EVER contributed any intelligent comments, just half truths and lies!.
Pillboxesghost 11 months ago
@Pillboxesghost "RonPaulHatesBlacks" aka Mark C. Douglas is a mentally challenged idiot, that never backs up anything types with sources. Look for "12FlyMe" or "SouthernFriendHoney" he will use them more. Just click on RPHB'S friend's list and all the "Friends" without pictures is just himself, lol. The idiot moved down to Texas of all places....
rebel2276 10 months ago
Sorry, spammer. I'm not "12FlyMe" or "SouthernFriendHoney," and my name certainly isn't Mark C. Douglas. Don't you ever stop lying? Don't you do ANY RESEARCH AT ALL before running your mouth?
What a fucking retard!!!
RonPaulHatesBlacks 10 months ago 3
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@RonPaulHatesBlacks You can keep lying to yourself, but it looks like you got your ass handed to you on this video, lol. A bit strange Mark, that "12FLYME" also sent me a message at the same time you did. Ummm, lol. Mark what is so easy to detect you, you use kid words for insults. Let me comment to "12FLYMe" now, which is just going to be you again.
rebel2276 10 months ago
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@RonPaulHatesBlacks Why would you have 50 sock accounts on your "Friend's" list??? Strange that you and Mark just happen to live in the same city in Texas. lol. Your Yahoo profile was interesting, arguing about the same shit on here as you do on there. Either Civil War or Taxes. Cover your tracks better.
rebel2276 10 months ago
Good God, you're a fucking retard. How the fuck would I know which "Friends" are sock accounts? I don't live in Texas, you fucking retard---my profile is a satire of Ron Paul. I've never had a "Yahoo profile," whatever the fuck that is. And I've never argued anything about taxes in my entire life.
You're projecting because you're a complete and total liar who's FLAT OUT LIED about Ulysses S. Grant, William McFeely, and YOUR OWN GRANDFATHER. You've chosen to live without HONOR or INTEGRITY.
RonPaulHatesBlacks 10 months ago
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@RonPaulHatesBlacks LOL, your not fooling anyone, three thumbs up already in 18 minuets? lol Switching accounts back and forth? lol
Keep it up, I enjoy your posts, few things out here that make me laugh.
rebel2276 10 months ago
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Only one account here, boy. You're a proven LIAR and a COWARD. We the People can only hope that you die before your cowardice and incompetence claims the lives of more innocent American servicemen and women.
RonPaulHatesBlacks 10 months ago 4
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@RonPaulHatesBlacks Keep on typing that shit, lol A bit odd you would have 50 sock accounts under "RonPaulHatesBlacks" Why bother to add the same person (Yourself) 50 times? Keep up the "Thumbs down", I enjoy making you switch accounts, 3-5 times! I highly doubt anyone would give me thumbs down or you thumbs up on a "Rebel Pride" video. You got your ass torn up on this video, from everyone's comments, lol.
Ok now, switch back to 12FlyMe and give me more thumbs down, boy!
rebel2276 10 months ago
@RonPaulHatesBlacks You seem to spend all your time trolling these videos.I've talked to you before.You may remember me. Get a life dude.Seriously.I ain't even gonna fight with ya. Go get laid and kiss a few girls. Go drink some whiskey.
sarge958 10 months ago
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@Pillboxesghost He will try to play it off, that he is just one single screen name, in reality he uses close to 50 different ones. 12FlyMe, SouthernFriedHoney, Tax this or Tax that. Just stupid screen names he makes up. Then he will give "Himself" thumbs up. Notice my post from Yesterday "Received too many negative votes? That was him logging onto 50 accounts to do that, lol.
rebel2276 10 months ago
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Chrisxxxtz 11 months ago
Last time I checked it was Sherman who burned Atlanta, not Lee who burned Philadelphia.
You guys lost 150 years ago. Get over it.
ih8makinusernames 11 months ago
Google "Arthur Reed" and "Miles Reed" and learn about black confederate soldiers!
Bestmanme08 1 year ago
@XConfederateSoldierX you are truely a racist aint you?
Yobecapendatnigga 1 year ago
@RonPaulHatesBlacks That is a outlandish claim I have viewed and studied the census records every thing you claim is a lie every one that has studied true history
and historical documents not what the Lincoln cults write and claim to be true
the true history of South is being told and the lies that have been told to cover the Unions crime and hate are being exposed.
blackconfederate1 1 year ago
@blackconfederate1 "RonPaulHatesBlacks" is all over YT spreading complete nonsense!
jess1up 1 year ago
@jess1up RonPaulHatesblacks is one guy trolling with about 7 accounts trying to make Republicans look bad and to bash the South lol.
blackconfederate1 1 year ago
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