Alley Cats - Puddin' N' Tain - Early Phil Spector Production - Great Doo Wop Rocker!

[beanie928]

This song never got too high on the charts for whatever reason, but it sure was a "goodie".

[7734Duke]

Puddin' Tan (aka Puddin N' Tain) Splendors 1962

Jano 004 Alley Cats THIS IS THE ORIGINAL VERSION...ANY ONE HAVE THIS?

[Trillion81]

Hey this music is wonderful! Could you tell me where else I can find Alley Cats music on the internet? Every search I have done brings up some other group that uses the same name and they are obviously not them. (way too young and white, LOL) Please help! Thanks.

[coyotesong]

PJDooWop....you're the greatest--again,,,this is such a wonderful song!! Makes me feel like I'm 14 all over again like I was when i first heard it.

[thecountofbasie]

Always dug this one, but never saw the label scan...amiably goofy extended title...thanks PJ

[bythebytheway]

Now I know that record that inspired my Mother to tell me the same, Love you my Dear Departed Mom, the music lives on in my heart, Thanks PJ DooWop !

[lizichell2]

Ohhh that falsetto!!!!!

[pinnacle271]

Very underated song- Spector wall of sound and up beat doo wop. Far better than Kit Kats version. Steve

[PJDooWop]

The Kit Kats version is cool, but I do agree that this is better

[TL250Rider]

Thank you for this great listing.

PHIL SPECTOR PRODUCTION

[boutteperry]

The intro sounds alot like Concrete and Clay by Eddie Rambo.

[ESAXICA]

me encanta el doo-wop !!!.. en España no habían grupos así...

[TNFlightNurse]

Nice!

[soupdee]

i remember listening to this song on the radio, The Kit Kat Club with Danny Stiles in nyc 1962

[PJDooWop]

Danny's still around. He's in his 80s now. He plays old standards on the radio now and does appearances in the NYC metro area

[cgemout1]

This was a big hit in Pittsburgh, nice upbeat dance music.

[13loomisst]

I bought this single when it came out and played it as often as possible. Of course, it's on Back to Mono, so as a CD it's also gotten plenty of play. And it's on one of my early-60s Ipod mixes. The point is, I've heard it a quarter of a million times.

For some reason, without ever thinking about it, I had always thought it was a white group. Now I've just learned that the group was made up of members of the Valiants, and that the high part is sung by Bobby (Bobb B Soxx) Sheen. Live and learn.

[ibethebaron]

One of my favorites. I have this 45 when I lived in Jersey.

[qb62ndmaintbn1967]

From my High School days in North Central Florida. Had not heard this since then. Thanks.

[Gamefan113]

Great song

[leaann312]

Wow, so much knowledge. Should have been a music historian.

[PJDooWop]

I am a music historian, lol. I haven't figured out how to make it my living yet, but I hope to.

[JRussoBuffaloNY]

Hey P.J. I saw that the Kit Kats from Philly did this in the late 60's like 1968 or so, but now I read that it was unreleased from 1962 and then the Alley Cats from Cali L.A. or Frisco (read 2 dif locations for them) rec. it in 1963 can you clear up any of this. I would appreciate it. reason is I always associated this song with Philly has that sound ,you know?

[PJDooWop]

The Kit Kats are indeed from Philly, and they did record this song in '62. The Kit Kats actually released a lot of records on Jamie during the 60s. One of the members of the group is here on Youtube.. If you go through The Kit Kats videos he left a comment on a few of them

[ScriptWorker]

Its so cool.

[TheSal702]

LOVE THIS SONG THANKS FOR POSTING!!!!

[PJDooWop]

You're welcome

[echoesibiza]

GREAT SONG !! THANKS

[purepl416]

this may be my favorite doo wop tune of all time. like it, but i dont have a clue what it is about

[PJDooWop]

In brief, the song is about a guy who meets a girl. At first she says her name is Puddin' N' Tain, but later he finds out her real name. It all seems rediculous, but this is a take on a very, very old children's rhyme of Scot/Irish origin. In 1896, a book called The King Of Boyville, had a fight scene that started by a boy being asked his name, and he replied with the following quote: "Puddin' 'n' tame, ast me agin an' I'll tell you the same." This became a popular quote in the 20s and 30s.

[AnitaLife27]

Wow, PJ, that's so cool! I have this on a repro 45 rpm, I love it. Never knew what it was about, didn't care. Thanks for the history. Did you get to the Philly doo wop fest. It was awesome. If not, then maybe next time.

[PJDooWop]

Unfortunately, I didn't get to make it there. Hopefully next year. It's been a while since I've been to Philly so a trip is definitely in order.

[coyotesong]

@PJDooWop Wow!!!! Great story about the story!!

[NYDutch1968]

Starts out like "Concrete & Clay" by Unit Four Plus Two. Catchy little tune with all of Phil Spector's influences. As you mention this is early Phil Spector which I think he developed further a couple of years later.

[PJDooWop]

Concrete and Clay came out a few years after this. Maybe this influenced their record.

[NYDutch1968]

I'm sure you are right. If anything Unit Four Plus Two was stealing from Phil Spector. Phil cast such a wide net that I'm sure you can find examples everywhere and I'm sure some of this was just inadvertent (rather than outright stealing).

[PJDooWop]

Phil was known for stealing too.. oops? Did I just say that?

[desperadoxl]

Phil Spector created that special sound with a full Ochestra, acoustics, where as the groups that sang in a subway sounded much better & original, cleancut, & crisp Brian Wilson took some ideas from Phil Spector, they all do it to imrove & exchange ideas.

[M3town3]

Don't worry, The bEach Boys stole from Spector as well. I wish they could have been working togheter!

[vghlivesri]

Forgot about this one.....a great bristol-stompin tune....ty pj

[PJDooWop]

You're welcome

[angelofbebop]

WOW! Love Phil Spector's influence on this arrangement (I can hear it in the horns, piano and bells)! 5 stars/favs! Great post PJ!

[PJDooWop]

It's very much a "wall of sound" production

[angelofbebop]

Yes it is! Thanks again :-) Have a great weekend!

[Gamefan113]

Great song!

[PJDooWop]

Agreed

[ChryslerThomas]

Nice doo-wop.Thanks

[PJDooWop]

You're welcome