Bill Maher says denying racism is the new racism

[AesopsRetreat]

Bill Maher would know this first hand since he denies he's racist all the time, yet he's on the Left and supports blacks being paid to stay in the ghetto's and out of the white mans world. Yeah, we know who the Racists are..

[TeamBauerTV]

@AesopsRetreat Check this out on youtube A.U feat Bill Maher

[Ominee]

@AesopsRetreat Right because people get paid to put us in the ghetto. Sounds legit. Or not.

[vito445]

all those statistics just say things about blacks and how they treat themselves

[whyamimrpink78]

And playing the race card is racism as well. Make race an issue is racism.

[A86]

@whyamimrpink78 - That's like saying talking about rape is rape. -__-

[whyamimrpink78]

@A86 Whenever you seperate someone by their race then it is racism. People have real reasons why they dislike Obama and his race has nothing to do with it. People like Maher call those people racist which really makes him racist. Seperating someone from everyone else because of his race is racism. Maher saids we hate Obama because he is black. I, and many, don't see Obama as a black president, we see him as a bad president.

[A86]

@whyamimrpink78 - "and his race has nothing to do with it"

For some people no, for many people it obviously does. Some people admitted straight-up before the election they aren't "ready" for a black President. The Tea Party has consistently shown that among its ranks many of them have a negative view of minorities and resent Obama for at least partially racial reasons (like the "Birther" crowd, the crowd claiming he's an Affirmative Action student, claiming he hates whites, etc.).

[whyamimrpink78]

@A86 There are just as many racist people on the left as there are on the right. There are minorities in the Tea Party. The head of the GOP is Michael Steale. They are not a racist group. There are radicals but I bet you will hear the same thing from the left if Steale was president before Obama and you will also hear the race card being play on the right.

[A86]

@whyamimrpink78 - I agree there are racist people on the left and right but the right is historically and currently much more likely to pit majorities against minorities and use racial strife as a platform to get elected. This isn't isolated to the US, it's a global thing. It's not uncommon for right-wing parties to be against multiculturalism, to oppose immigration of different ethnic groups, or even support outright discriminatory or racist laws against certain groups.

[A86]

@whyamimrpink78 - This is because left-leaning and left-wing ideologies and/or parties usually stress egalitarianism, tolerance and social solidarity. Right-wing and right-leaning parties and/or ideologies are conservative and conservatism is about either trying to wind back the clock or preserve the status quo. The status quo, and especially the past, almost invariably societies with racial/ethnic inequality. Conservative people are also more likely to hold views or values of past eras.

[whyamimrpink78]

@A86 There are just as many minorities in the right as tehre are in the left. Throughout history dems. have always been more racist. It was Eisenhower that tried to pass the Civil Rights act and most democrats were against it(and some Repubs. mainly southern ones). It wasn't until LBJ changed the bill to get dems. in the senate to agree with it. Repubs. are for control immigration, they are not against it. Repubs. are for being more fair, not making anyone special because of their race.

[A86]

@whyamimrpink78 - I wouldn't say that. The majority of minorities (lol @ the language) of tend to vote Democrat in national elections. That doesn't mean all or most minorities are doctrinaire liberals or lefties but most tend to vote Democrat.

"dems. have always been more racist"

Democrat =/= Liberal

From their inception in the 1800s up until the 1930s the Democrats were the states' rights conservative party against federalism, social programs, business regulations and central banking.

[A86]

@whyamimrpink78 - The Republicans, from the 1850s to the turn of the century, were the progressive party that supported federalism, social reform, trust-busting, social programs, industrialization and central banking. Abe Lincoln's "Reconstruction" was basically a 19th century version of the "New Deal". From the 1890s to the 1920s the Republicans slowly became the business party and eventually the conservative party by the 1930s and 40s as the conservative wing took over.

[A86]

@whyamimrpink78 - Eventually the conservative wing of the Republican party allied with the conservative wing of the Democratic party to make the anti-Civil Rights/pro-Jim Crow "Conservative Coalition". The liberal wing of the Democratic party (personified by William Jennings Bryan in the late 1800s and early 1900s) eventually took over the Northern Democrats while the conservative wing took over the Southern Democrats ("Dixiecrats"). The liberal wing dominated the party after the election of FDR

[A86]

@whyamimrpink78 - "and most democrats were against"

Most of the Democrats against were the Dixiecrats. In the next Congressional election the Northern Dems made the majority, which is a large reason why LBJ's Civil Rights Bill got passed. However, the Northern Dems has proposed other Civil Rights Bills before Eisenhower (all the way back to the FDR Administration). President Truman, another liberal Dem, was the President who de-segregated the military.

[A86]

@whyamimrpink78 - There are even more minorities in the Democratic Party and the Dem President is a black (well, biracial, technically) man. By your logic that means the Democrats can't be racist, right?

"Obama was in some ways an Affirmative Action student"

It's one thing to speculate on reasons why people vote for the man but what's your evidence that he was an AA student? He graduated magna cum laude. Obviously the man is intelligent/learned. Whether or not you agree with him.

[whyamimrpink78]

@A86 Obama graduated from Harvard and he is a politician. While there are some intelligent people who have graduated from Harvard most people are politically connected. He knew the right people and got to good grades. That is how Ivy League colleges work. You are either really smart(knowledgable), really rich, or politically connected. But, like most Ivy League graduates they lack knowledge of the common man or any kind of work ethics. I would say his magna cum laude isn't anything to brag about

[A86]

@whyamimrpink78 - "most people are politically connected"

Obama was not really connected when he was at Harvard, he was still largely a nobody at that point. Connections won't get you a GPA over 3.7. Bush had many more political connections in college than Obama yet he was still a C-average student.

"lack knowledge of the common man" Obama was a common man. He wasn't born with a silver spoon by a longshot. He was the son of a single mother right out of teenagehood.

[A86]

@whyamimrpink78 - When I referred to AA with Justice Thomas I was referring to President George H.W. Bush. Clarence Thomas had little, if any, qualifications for the Supreme Court and is agreed by observers on both sides to be pretty much a lightweight intellectually (or at least in what he shows) and in jurisprudence. He pretty much always just dittos whatever Scalia says. In her first few months on the bench Justice Sotoymayor asked more questions than Thomas has his entire career.

[A86]

@whyamimrpink78 - It's fairly obvious that Bush chose Thomas so as to have another black person on the Court to replace Justice Thurgood Marshall (and make himself look pro-civil rights by appointing a minority) while having him be a Republican at the same time. Thurgood Marshall made a veiled comment to similar effect.

"Lowering the standard and raising the award"

Actually, with AA all AA hires, by law, must meet the minimum qualifications of any job they apply for or college they go to.

[whyamimrpink78]

@A86 I know AA are required to meet minimum qualifications, but it isn't fair when companies are force to consider condidates because of their race or sex. That creates problems. A company can hire all white people if they are the best candidates or all black people. We don't need AA laws. Most companies will hire the best candidates. No one should get special treatment because of their race or color.

[A86]

@whyamimrpink78 - Obama much more likely got in because he previously attended Occidental and Columbia and worked for a big firm.

I'm of two minds on AA. On the one hand it is discriminatory on the basis of race and/or gender. On the other hand there is nothing else in place to enforce anti-discriminatory laws that are in place. Even so, the majority of AA hires are actually white women. Many of the AA hires who aren't white women are Hispanics. Blacks are less than 10% of the hires.

[whyamimrpink78]

@A86 Obama was in some ways an Affirmative Action student which is racist and sexist as well. Lowering the standard and raising the award for a particular group of people is being racist or sexist. I, and many others don't like Obama because of his policies and the way he is running the country, not because of his race. I would treat a white, asian, chinese, etc. man no different. I would treat a woman no different. People who bring up his race in topics are the racist ones.

[A86]

@whyamimrpink78 - While I can't say you have a problem with him because of race, as I don't know you, unfortunately many on the right (and even some on the left) DO have a problem with Obama because of his race. Trends from the Tea Party like birther-ism, "schooler"-ism, claims he's a Black Panther, etc. make that obvious. Or just look at comment sections on right-wing blogs or forums about Michelle Obama (who shouldn't even be a target). Then you REALLY to get to see some racist mindsets.

[A86]

@whyamimrpink78 - "call those people racist which really makes him racist"

So it is racist to call a black person a racist? *eyeroll*

[Texfield91]

And seeing racism were it dosen't exist is the new schizophrenia, which pretty much sums up Maher and all his ilk.

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