Pfy. Just how Capitalist are we really? There are millions upon millions of pages of rules, regulations and mandates imposed on every business and industry in this country by the govt and when they inevitably fail due in no small part because of those mandates and rags then it's somehow their fault for failing and not the govt itself. What a load of shit. Also, there's noting capitalist about the govt taking over all these industries and such as the very act is blatantly socialist/fascist.
yes but it is so convenient for michael moore to turn this around and call it capitalism when people like him were begging the government to give the bailouts to begin with. the true capitalists were opposed to the bailouts from the start, but michael moore more has said he thought it was a pretty good idea, now he is upset with it. he should have listened to us before all this happened.
End the Fed. After all, it is owned by the banks (literally) and all the gov does is name its management (no propaganda here... simple facts I've learned in grad school). Sick.
For the record, I am ultra-liberal on social issues and a conservative on fiscal issues. Enough said.
Nobody hates capitalism more than private industry b/c competition takes a cut out of their profits. A corrupt gov't is a byproduct of regulation, spending, and overall largess w/ the taxpayer dime. Why did Phillip Morris come out in favor of tobacco regulation? Because it erected huge barriers to entry and kept out competition. Why is GS in favor of Cap/Trade regulation? Why are the health insurers in favor of massive regulation at the state level? Regulators are always captured.
Capitalism had nothing to do with the melt down. Regulation,subsidies and safety nets had everything to do with it.
You really think these mega banks would lend out billions in bad loans and debt if they knew they would fail and not get bailed out?
Hell no they wouldn't. But the people you elected subsidize them and told them to loan to people who couldn't afford if and then gave them more of your money when they failed.
Moore didn't trick us into anything. He simply recognized the sentiments of the silent majority and created a documentary to express these sentiments.
The anti-Wall Street sentiment has been around for decades and has been particularly strong since last fall. Moore is not "tricking" us into hating Wall Street or capitalism, but simply giving a voice to the voiceless.
Thanks again Mike! Exposing the truth about these corporate ratt bastards is becoming a hobby for you,,ey?
Next, due a film on how pathetic and ridiculous the right wing conservatives have become in this country. Expose the propaganda of Fox News and all these tough, macho, arrogant big and bad conservatives who thinks their shit don't stink! That could be a 7 hour movie!
Morre the commie scum forgets to mention that the reason why we've had a global collapse is that his commie mates engineered the policy of giving home loans to those who cant repay & then palming the debt off on unsuspecting banks.
Banks are too fat and greedy just like Moore, but most of all they we're too trusting.
Now that the US has a leftist leader no doubt we'll have more of the same.
As an Independent (who leans progressive), I enjoy Michael Moore's documentaries although he obviously has his political slant (but then again, so does Fox News & they have millions of viewers who take their commentary as gospel)
Truth be told, Democrats have been just as implicit in the corporate takeover of Americans lives as Republicans...Clinton did as much to deregulate the market as Reagan; Bush kicked the door down by tying capitalism w/ socialism & now Obama is sprinting w/ the torch
It's so silly how people buy into everything he says.
Seriously though, this isn't capitalism. This is government regulation. Funny how Moore doesn't want to portray Obama in the same light as bush, his target audience would get rather offended and not see this piece of shit movie.
Oh, I understand that you don't belong to political party. I don't belong to any political party either. However, I often times find that it is those anarcho-Capitalist "libertarian" free-market fundamentalist nut-jobs who like to talk about being non-partisan in an effort to try & start a movement where you swindle people into believing the way you do.
Basically, it's believed that if you call corporate feudalism "freedom" & use other vague paltitudes, you'll swindle the masses & this works
No people like moore use swindle tactics, like editing video footage. The documentary Manufacturing Dissent was an interesting look at Moore.
I could care less if people believe in small l libertarianism or not, I know its not a popular belief. I think the masses are far more capable of swindling the individual than vice versa.
I'm also a libertarian. However, rather than following the American brand of libertarian thought, I adhere to libertarianism's original and traditional meanining.
That said, I do not subscribe to the destructive right-wing brand of libertarian thought that you obviously do. Right-wing libertarian talking-points (not the totality of the ideology) are used to sell Republican party platforms & this is actually quite popular
I think corporate- elites are very capable of swindling individuals.
I'm proud to believe in American libertarianism; social-liberal and fiscal conservative. The ideology of laissez-faire can truly offer freedom if we follow it. We have laws on the book to punish fraud. We can do more with tort law than we can with regulations. I don't adhere to libertarianism that believes nature cannot be owned by an individual, no matter how many times people tell me Jefferson, Paine and Locke believed this.
My point is we can expect plenty of distortions from moore.
Joe402, I'm willing to bet VictoryCough is an anarcho-Capitalist "libertarian."
These folks tend to think that if they call "free-market" tyranny "freedom" & never reveal explicitly either partisan affiliation or too much of their ideological beliefs, that they'll be able to swindle the masses into thinking the way tey do.
This is actually true though. That's how Reagan won. Reagan basically marketed corporate feudalism as "freedom" & the masses bought it!!
But bailing out companies and supplying them with easy credit that is then package into easy mortgage deals by government regulated institutes is socialism..
The only thing that keeps you from arguing with yourself is the title "Right" and "Left".
The housing bubble was inflated during the Repub years, and even though it continues under Obama, that is easy credit and mass inflation, it is not some political attack, it's bad monetary policy.
Government intervention is socialism and interjecting easy credit and Freddie's and Fannie's
If free markets and capitalism had decided the value of credit and money, instead of the Fed putting it dangerously below the markets equilibrium, this would have never happen!!
I'd say government intervention is a symptom of socialism.
The US has absolutely been taking production out of the hands of private sector and putting it into the tax payers hands. Though, they don't want us to think of it that way, to them "bailout" is a good thing. It distracts from the real economic and political restructuring.
I would nevermind him. He seems to think bullying around on youtube is an intelligent way to debate. I always thought stating facts and such were, but then again that's just me.
If you believe the 4th of July Speeches "government of, by, and for the people," then government is NOT some alien force stealing from you. Government intervention means giving the public a role making decisions about things that matter to them like working conditions, wages, etc
If you decode the rhetoric the question becomes: Do we want private concentrations of power to make decisions for their own benefit, or do we want the public to be concerned to make decisions for the public welfare?
Government intervention does NOT enable people, it constricts people and hurts people by creating an artificial component within the sector. It does not enable or protect people.
Examples of negative government intervention is endless.
Artificial low credit lines created the housing bubble after the Fed wouldn't let Tech CEOs fail in late 90s.
Government inflation within the healthcare sector by managing insurance companies.
Well it is a comforting thought to know the people we put in office are raiding our treasury while we watch. The focus should be on the largest heist in history not Moore or his variousattributes!
The problem is not a business serving the public and making a profit from it as Micheal would have you believe. The problem is bad laws written by bad Congresspersons, both democrat and republican. These laws and regulations have crippled the economy, and left it in the hands of the large powerful corporations. This has happened over the last 50 years, slowly, like cooking a frog in hot water. Now to day, main street is dead. The small business is crushed, not because of price, but bad laws
His "ducmentaries are always rife with innacuracies, careful edits, and outright untruths. It's the people who don't know any better that think he is a working class hero. His ego is legendary, as well as hissy fits, manipulations of truth and his far left wing roots go back to the 80s.
i would like to see MM make a film about the bilderberg group, the trilateral commission, the CFR, the club of rome, the FED, rockeffeler, rothschild, the illuminati and more. MM manages to make films that fit their agenda then to go against it!!!
You probably think that capitalism only exists when people are making money, which explains why you're still a fan. Michael is not an example of capitalism anymore than you or I, or an unemployed bum off the street.
And if you had ever picked up one of his books, you would know that's he's not exactly proud of his physique or eating habits.
Michael Moore keeps pissing off the wingnuts and I love it.
He was right in 89 about the betrayal of the American worker by corporations, he was right about Iraq, he was right about Bush, he's right about healthcare and he's right about the banks.
What has been going on in the U.S. lately is not capitalism, it is plutocracy. We will not break the shackles until we realize that our government exists only to service the "elites" of our country and to mollify the increasingly ignorant American population.
True, but they knew the evils of a central bank,, and despite their warnings we gave the Federal Reserve complete power over our monetary system. America used to produce intelligent human beings, now it only endeavors to create slaves. The bankers have successfully tricked the peoples of the world into worshiping scraps of worthless paper.
i dont agree with michael moores socialism but i like that he is exposing the goldman sachs scum, and how congress is bought...and they aren't really in charge. The bankers are in charge.
Do not let the brainwashing continue. Mr. Moore is taking advantage of people(s) that have been professionally brainwashed for 3 generations.
The Federal Reserve System & its Cartel agreement with our government is the true culprit of our economic hardship. Globally - with other Central Banks/Bankers, we have been ultimately duped as a free people. Please read/look into "The Creature From Jekyll Island." U gotta be kidding if your gonna fall for this kindergarden bed time story.
This looks like it will probably suck. If Capitalism is so wrong, then I'll just assume that Michael Moore will not charge any money to see this film or donate all of the proceeds to charity.
How is giving these bad financial institutions trillions of dollars so they can continue to loan and buy up smaller good banks the Free market or capitalism?Its not!
How is telling them who they should loan to and subsidizing risky loans to people who cant afford a 250k home Free market or Capitalism? Its not!
the free market and capitalism would of let these guys fail.
We haven't had a true capitalistic free market system for decades.
Every thing is coporate welfare and subsidies for the rich. Even the regulation that is suppose to protect you is meant to stop competition.
Thats why you see so many corporate lobbyist lobbying for regulation to set a standard.....their standard. Take big tbacco they lobbied against themselves so smokeless cigs would be banned.
We've given him time to continue torture, expand the wars overseas, spy on Americans, hire lobbyists, break his campaign promises, bailout the banksters - which people like you then say is 'capitalism.' We've given him time to create more money in the last six months than was probably even created during the Bush years. But of course I'm just a stupid Neanderthal, the consequences of the state's crazed planning is actually the free market's fault. Silly me.
Yet you still cannot force yourself to say the names of the "anti-free market" forces at work in the government: Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, Wellpoint, Aetna, GE.
They are the ones bribing Congress but you just can't get yourself to say their names, it would make you feel all statist right?
Of course the banksters and their good friends in the state are ripping us off. But its not just the fraudsters on Wall St. Its the military industrial complex, the medical industrial complex, and many many more. These people using the state to rip us off do not like free markets. Goldman Sachs wouldn't exist if we had a free market. As long as a small group of people is given the legal right to use violence, they will use it to rip of the people for the sake of their friends and themselves.
You're absolutely wrong! You couldn't be more wrong!
America hasn't ever had truly free markets in its entire history. The myth is that the economy is based on entrepreneurial inititive and individual choice. The reality is that the core of the economy relies very heavily on the state sector, and transparently so.
In free society where all adult relationships are voluntary; no one, not even a band of criminals that calls itself 'the state,' can aggress against the person or property of anyone else. Thats real capitalism and we have never had that in this country. What this country has always had is a group of criminals armed to the teeth that threaten and coerce anyone and everyone that does not obey their dictates. That gang is the state. Capitalists do not coerce people, only governments do.
Yep, it's too good to be true! Hope there's gonna be a second part! But for now let's just enjoy watching the first part on [24HOURFLICKS]dottinfo
KeceyStewert 1 year ago
mind blowing !! An Eyeopener..This movie made me think and I watched it for free online at MOVIEPRINCESS[.]com .
harikaa315712 2 years ago
HES AWESOME :D
xveraxjoanx 2 years ago
> Search YouTube: "davehines78 Me Is Mine, You Is Yours"
> Moore is as wrong as a person can be.
BLCalifornia 2 years ago
Pfy. Just how Capitalist are we really? There are millions upon millions of pages of rules, regulations and mandates imposed on every business and industry in this country by the govt and when they inevitably fail due in no small part because of those mandates and rags then it's somehow their fault for failing and not the govt itself. What a load of shit. Also, there's noting capitalist about the govt taking over all these industries and such as the very act is blatantly socialist/fascist.
Yakko77 2 years ago
yes but it is so convenient for michael moore to turn this around and call it capitalism when people like him were begging the government to give the bailouts to begin with. the true capitalists were opposed to the bailouts from the start, but michael moore more has said he thought it was a pretty good idea, now he is upset with it. he should have listened to us before all this happened.
mccliffton 2 years ago
M.M. is a tool.
standj21 2 years ago
It's not the system, it's the people running it.
Thanks "Me Generation"!
You should all be shot.
raymop73 2 years ago
what's the name of the song towards the end of the trailer?
butterpoop 2 years ago
50 Cent - All I Wanna Do
squalea 2 years ago
End the Fed. After all, it is owned by the banks (literally) and all the gov does is name its management (no propaganda here... simple facts I've learned in grad school). Sick.
For the record, I am ultra-liberal on social issues and a conservative on fiscal issues. Enough said.
Cheers,
Diana
dianiblue 2 years ago 2
holy shit Micheal Moore is a real fat bastard...
rrush2214 2 years ago
Nobody hates capitalism more than private industry b/c competition takes a cut out of their profits. A corrupt gov't is a byproduct of regulation, spending, and overall largess w/ the taxpayer dime. Why did Phillip Morris come out in favor of tobacco regulation? Because it erected huge barriers to entry and kept out competition. Why is GS in favor of Cap/Trade regulation? Why are the health insurers in favor of massive regulation at the state level? Regulators are always captured.
petecav7 2 years ago
Capitalism had nothing to do with the melt down. Regulation,subsidies and safety nets had everything to do with it.
You really think these mega banks would lend out billions in bad loans and debt if they knew they would fail and not get bailed out?
Hell no they wouldn't. But the people you elected subsidize them and told them to loan to people who couldn't afford if and then gave them more of your money when they failed.
argumentinvalid 2 years ago
Moore didn't trick us into anything. He simply recognized the sentiments of the silent majority and created a documentary to express these sentiments.
The anti-Wall Street sentiment has been around for decades and has been particularly strong since last fall. Moore is not "tricking" us into hating Wall Street or capitalism, but simply giving a voice to the voiceless.
Weleski 2 years ago
....... This film is owned by Viacom...
Oh the irony of "capitalism"
a7green 2 years ago
"This film is owned by Viacom"
and that's why you'll never hear the word "Israel" in a Michael Moore movie.
CarryANationIII 2 years ago 3
Using his enemy's tools, I love it.
MarquisdeBarrabas 2 years ago 2
that evil capitalism built moores mansion in traverse city michigan.what a joke he is
exweez 2 years ago
Thanks again Mike! Exposing the truth about these corporate ratt bastards is becoming a hobby for you,,ey?
Next, due a film on how pathetic and ridiculous the right wing conservatives have become in this country. Expose the propaganda of Fox News and all these tough, macho, arrogant big and bad conservatives who thinks their shit don't stink! That could be a 7 hour movie!
renijohn012270 2 years ago
lets go michael ..lets get the real truth .. right wing fuckers
tsocanuck 2 years ago
Bail out the too big to fail is not capitalism.
futfut0708 2 years ago 3
Yes it fucking is.
If you think there was even any 'fairness' about capitalism, EVER, you are deluded and know nothing of history.
MarquisdeBarrabas 2 years ago
Can you provide examples of fractional reserve banks that have survived without the assistance of a central bank?
JesseKantstopolis 2 years ago 2
Morre the commie scum forgets to mention that the reason why we've had a global collapse is that his commie mates engineered the policy of giving home loans to those who cant repay & then palming the debt off on unsuspecting banks.
Banks are too fat and greedy just like Moore, but most of all they we're too trusting.
Now that the US has a leftist leader no doubt we'll have more of the same.
Rundogz 2 years ago
lets move to new zealand
boringlyawesum 2 years ago
I too am a Liberal and definitely not afraid to say it!
TruthSeeker1988 2 years ago
As an Independent (who leans progressive), I enjoy Michael Moore's documentaries although he obviously has his political slant (but then again, so does Fox News & they have millions of viewers who take their commentary as gospel)
Truth be told, Democrats have been just as implicit in the corporate takeover of Americans lives as Republicans...Clinton did as much to deregulate the market as Reagan; Bush kicked the door down by tying capitalism w/ socialism & now Obama is sprinting w/ the torch
armonocracy 2 years ago
"Independent (who leans progressive)"
Go ahead and say it...you are a LIBERAL.
There is no shame in being one. Ignore those GOP fucks who turned it into a swear word.
Joe402 2 years ago
It's so silly how people buy into everything he says.
Seriously though, this isn't capitalism. This is government regulation. Funny how Moore doesn't want to portray Obama in the same light as bush, his target audience would get rather offended and not see this piece of shit movie.
VictoryCough 2 years ago 3
This IS capitalism in all its big fat glory sorry to burst your bubble. (Get it?)
Joe402 2 years ago
He doesn't get it.
MarquisdeBarrabas 2 years ago
If you look at the very definition of capitalism, how can you say we've had capitalism? Even in the past 60 years!!!
I'd say Switzerland is the most capitalistic country. They also have one of the highest standards of living and lowest taxes. Coincidence?
VictoryCough 2 years ago
What do you call a system where the capitalists lobby the government to give them a shitload of tax payer money?
Joe402 2 years ago
Keynsianism. Not capitalism.
VictoryCough 2 years ago
Republicans seem to embrace it so I don't see why you are complaining.
Joe402 2 years ago
Because I'm not a republican?
You're so locked into this right-left paradigm thats the only way you can look at people? Is republican or democrat?
VictoryCough 2 years ago
You are right wing you just don't want to admit it. Is the Republican party too moderate for you?
Joe402 2 years ago
Again, I don't buy into your right-left spectrum, instead I view politicians as having 0 to 100 scale of power over our lives.
With the two party right left nonsense government always wins, and the people end up fighting each other.
VictoryCough 2 years ago
Oh, I understand that you don't belong to political party. I don't belong to any political party either. However, I often times find that it is those anarcho-Capitalist "libertarian" free-market fundamentalist nut-jobs who like to talk about being non-partisan in an effort to try & start a movement where you swindle people into believing the way you do.
Basically, it's believed that if you call corporate feudalism "freedom" & use other vague paltitudes, you'll swindle the masses & this works
DaviidHill 2 years ago 2
No people like moore use swindle tactics, like editing video footage. The documentary Manufacturing Dissent was an interesting look at Moore.
I could care less if people believe in small l libertarianism or not, I know its not a popular belief. I think the masses are far more capable of swindling the individual than vice versa.
VictoryCough 2 years ago
I'm also a libertarian. However, rather than following the American brand of libertarian thought, I adhere to libertarianism's original and traditional meanining.
That said, I do not subscribe to the destructive right-wing brand of libertarian thought that you obviously do. Right-wing libertarian talking-points (not the totality of the ideology) are used to sell Republican party platforms & this is actually quite popular
I think corporate- elites are very capable of swindling individuals.
DaviidHill 2 years ago
I'm proud to believe in American libertarianism; social-liberal and fiscal conservative. The ideology of laissez-faire can truly offer freedom if we follow it. We have laws on the book to punish fraud. We can do more with tort law than we can with regulations. I don't adhere to libertarianism that believes nature cannot be owned by an individual, no matter how many times people tell me Jefferson, Paine and Locke believed this.
My point is we can expect plenty of distortions from moore.
VictoryCough 2 years ago
Joe402, I'm willing to bet VictoryCough is an anarcho-Capitalist "libertarian."
These folks tend to think that if they call "free-market" tyranny "freedom" & never reveal explicitly either partisan affiliation or too much of their ideological beliefs, that they'll be able to swindle the masses into thinking the way tey do.
This is actually true though. That's how Reagan won. Reagan basically marketed corporate feudalism as "freedom" & the masses bought it!!
DaviidHill 2 years ago
Hey Michael - Obama has more than 10 Billion for you - how bout you ask him where all our money is now??
lenny380 2 years ago
But bailing out companies and supplying them with easy credit that is then package into easy mortgage deals by government regulated institutes is socialism..
BlueTunisia 2 years ago
And the right's pathetic attempt to redefine both capitalism and socialism continues.
MarquisdeBarrabas 2 years ago
The only thing that keeps you from arguing with yourself is the title "Right" and "Left".
The housing bubble was inflated during the Repub years, and even though it continues under Obama, that is easy credit and mass inflation, it is not some political attack, it's bad monetary policy.
Government intervention is socialism and interjecting easy credit and Freddie's and Fannie's
BlueTunisia 2 years ago
regulated CDO factory are no exception!
If free markets and capitalism had decided the value of credit and money, instead of the Fed putting it dangerously below the markets equilibrium, this would have never happen!!
BlueTunisia 2 years ago
Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan are the biggest beneficiaries of the Federal Reserve system - why don't you mention them?
CarryANationIII 2 years ago
Ah ha! Good point! Government power attracts corruption!!
End the Federal Reserve!
BlueTunisia 2 years ago
'Government intervention is socialism '
It's a shame I have to spell it out to you:
You don't know what Socialism is, boy.
MarquisdeBarrabas 2 years ago
I'd say government intervention is a symptom of socialism.
The US has absolutely been taking production out of the hands of private sector and putting it into the tax payers hands. Though, they don't want us to think of it that way, to them "bailout" is a good thing. It distracts from the real economic and political restructuring.
VictoryCough 2 years ago
'I'd say government intervention is a symptom of socialism.'
I'd say you never opened a history book in your entire life.
MarquisdeBarrabas 2 years ago
By that you mean?
VictoryCough 2 years ago
I would nevermind him. He seems to think bullying around on youtube is an intelligent way to debate. I always thought stating facts and such were, but then again that's just me.
BlueTunisia 2 years ago
If you believe the 4th of July Speeches "government of, by, and for the people," then government is NOT some alien force stealing from you. Government intervention means giving the public a role making decisions about things that matter to them like working conditions, wages, etc
If you decode the rhetoric the question becomes: Do we want private concentrations of power to make decisions for their own benefit, or do we want the public to be concerned to make decisions for the public welfare?
DaviidHill 2 years ago
Brilliant post, DavidHill.
MarquisdeBarrabas 2 years ago
Government intervention does NOT enable people, it constricts people and hurts people by creating an artificial component within the sector. It does not enable or protect people.
Examples of negative government intervention is endless.
Artificial low credit lines created the housing bubble after the Fed wouldn't let Tech CEOs fail in late 90s.
Government inflation within the healthcare sector by managing insurance companies.
Banning drugs, thus creating the drug war.
BlueTunisia 2 years ago
You repetition ad nausem of tired Libertarian dogmas is not very persuasive.
MarquisdeBarrabas 2 years ago 2
What really is a shame is you've become what you argue so hard against the last 8 years, a no-fact bullying party cheerleader.
I'm not sure what more I can do. I hope you open your mind one day and stop trying to defend yourself with party labels.
BlueTunisia 2 years ago
Well it is a comforting thought to know the people we put in office are raiding our treasury while we watch. The focus should be on the largest heist in history not Moore or his variousattributes!
billeybop 2 years ago
I don't need to go see this movie, it's pretty obvious that we are getting fucked.
MrSinalinaninin 2 years ago 2
The problem is not a business serving the public and making a profit from it as Micheal would have you believe. The problem is bad laws written by bad Congresspersons, both democrat and republican. These laws and regulations have crippled the economy, and left it in the hands of the large powerful corporations. This has happened over the last 50 years, slowly, like cooking a frog in hot water. Now to day, main street is dead. The small business is crushed, not because of price, but bad laws
putittogether 2 years ago
Ah Michael Moore, with his whiny obese brand of yellow journalism, a truly humorous fat fuck.
MadPutz 2 years ago
His "ducmentaries are always rife with innacuracies, careful edits, and outright untruths. It's the people who don't know any better that think he is a working class hero. His ego is legendary, as well as hissy fits, manipulations of truth and his far left wing roots go back to the 80s.
pieceomeat 2 years ago
We want our money back!!!
watch?v=OS2fI2p9iVs
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wyzguy333 2 years ago
capitalism is the greatest thing ever, do bad we have socialism and "friends in washington".
zdwade 2 years ago
i would like to see MM make a film about the bilderberg group, the trilateral commission, the CFR, the club of rome, the FED, rockeffeler, rothschild, the illuminati and more. MM manages to make films that fit their agenda then to go against it!!!
wdcsucks1 2 years ago
Actually, just investigating the Bilderberg Group, would be like investigating all groups at the same time.
But MM would never do it.
a7green 2 years ago
It looks like an interesting video, however bailouts are not capitalism. Seems like this video would have been better labeled fascism.
Codad 2 years ago
Capitalism sure has made Michael Moore rich....and fat.
pieceomeat 2 years ago 2
Jealous?
MarquisdeBarrabas 2 years ago
Nope,...I am in shape and I believe in Capitalism...I just question the guy who questions capitalism and excess when he is an example of BOTH.
pieceomeat 2 years ago
You probably think that capitalism only exists when people are making money, which explains why you're still a fan. Michael is not an example of capitalism anymore than you or I, or an unemployed bum off the street.
And if you had ever picked up one of his books, you would know that's he's not exactly proud of his physique or eating habits.
MarquisdeBarrabas 2 years ago
Michael Moore keeps pissing off the wingnuts and I love it.
He was right in 89 about the betrayal of the American worker by corporations, he was right about Iraq, he was right about Bush, he's right about healthcare and he's right about the banks.
Right f*ckin on, Mike.
MarquisdeBarrabas 2 years ago
What has been going on in the U.S. lately is not capitalism, it is plutocracy. We will not break the shackles until we realize that our government exists only to service the "elites" of our country and to mollify the increasingly ignorant American population.
LawyerScumGhost 2 years ago 2
The US was founded by a plutocratic elite. Sorry to burst your bubble.
MarquisdeBarrabas 2 years ago
True, but they knew the evils of a central bank,, and despite their warnings we gave the Federal Reserve complete power over our monetary system. America used to produce intelligent human beings, now it only endeavors to create slaves. The bankers have successfully tricked the peoples of the world into worshiping scraps of worthless paper.
LawyerScumGhost 2 years ago 5
Woodrow Wilson did it...we weren't founded with a federal reserve that refuses to be audited.
pieceomeat 2 years ago 2
A movie both the left and right can almost agree on. This should be fun.
straightsixstyle 2 years ago
i dont agree with michael moores socialism but i like that he is exposing the goldman sachs scum, and how congress is bought...and they aren't really in charge. The bankers are in charge.
guerilla1985 2 years ago
So wait... Michael Moore is hating on capitalsim in this movie, but it was the federal goverment that bailed out those banks to begin with.
Feinstein recieved 50,000 phone calls AGAINST the bailout and yet she voted for it.
I see a lot of revionist history in this movie, although it's good to see someone going after the banks for once.
Kapan60 2 years ago 6
Do not let the brainwashing continue. Mr. Moore is taking advantage of people(s) that have been professionally brainwashed for 3 generations.
The Federal Reserve System & its Cartel agreement with our government is the true culprit of our economic hardship. Globally - with other Central Banks/Bankers, we have been ultimately duped as a free people. Please read/look into "The Creature From Jekyll Island." U gotta be kidding if your gonna fall for this kindergarden bed time story.
Mattdog51 2 years ago 2
This looks like it will probably suck. If Capitalism is so wrong, then I'll just assume that Michael Moore will not charge any money to see this film or donate all of the proceeds to charity.
BHThomas99 2 years ago 4
BHThomas99, that really isn't the point of critiquing capitalism.
There's a huge difference between the way that free-market theory is supposed to work in reality and how free market theory works in reality.
DaviidHill 2 years ago 2
How is giving these bad financial institutions trillions of dollars so they can continue to loan and buy up smaller good banks the Free market or capitalism?Its not!
How is telling them who they should loan to and subsidizing risky loans to people who cant afford a 250k home Free market or Capitalism? Its not!
the free market and capitalism would of let these guys fail.
argumentinvalid 2 years ago 3
We haven't had a true capitalistic free market system for decades.
Every thing is coporate welfare and subsidies for the rich. Even the regulation that is suppose to protect you is meant to stop competition.
Thats why you see so many corporate lobbyist lobbying for regulation to set a standard.....their standard. Take big tbacco they lobbied against themselves so smokeless cigs would be banned.
argumentinvalid 2 years ago
Funny stuff. I'll be first in line when it opens, even if I have to spend all night in line.
JayPhilosopher 2 years ago
The funny thing is he will go after Bush,But not Obama and Obama is doing the same thing Bush did!!!
killergames187 2 years ago 6
Bush was President for 8 years, Obama has been President for less than 10 months.
Give the man some time to breathe.
MarquisdeBarrabas 2 years ago
We've given him time to continue torture, expand the wars overseas, spy on Americans, hire lobbyists, break his campaign promises, bailout the banksters - which people like you then say is 'capitalism.' We've given him time to create more money in the last six months than was probably even created during the Bush years. But of course I'm just a stupid Neanderthal, the consequences of the state's crazed planning is actually the free market's fault. Silly me.
JesseKantstopolis 2 years ago 3
It must be very reassuring to feel so strongly about a flawless economic system that can never exist.
MarquisdeBarrabas 2 years ago
Yet you still cannot force yourself to say the names of the "anti-free market" forces at work in the government: Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, Wellpoint, Aetna, GE.
They are the ones bribing Congress but you just can't get yourself to say their names, it would make you feel all statist right?
CarryANationIII 2 years ago
Of course the banksters and their good friends in the state are ripping us off. But its not just the fraudsters on Wall St. Its the military industrial complex, the medical industrial complex, and many many more. These people using the state to rip us off do not like free markets. Goldman Sachs wouldn't exist if we had a free market. As long as a small group of people is given the legal right to use violence, they will use it to rip of the people for the sake of their friends and themselves.
JesseKantstopolis 2 years ago 3
Corporatism is not Capitalism, rather it is a predictable consequence of statism.
JesseKantstopolis 2 years ago 2
There's no such thing as 'non-corporatist Capitalism' or stateless capitalism.
In all capitalist societies there is a state with executive, legislative and judiciary powers that acts as a tool of capital. Always.
MarquisdeBarrabas 2 years ago
250 years of american capitalism built the most free,prosperous,and powerful nation in the history of man.
exweez 2 years ago
I'm glad you agree that the US is and has always been a nation with a capitalist economy.
MarquisdeBarrabas 2 years ago
You're absolutely wrong! You couldn't be more wrong!
America hasn't ever had truly free markets in its entire history. The myth is that the economy is based on entrepreneurial inititive and individual choice. The reality is that the core of the economy relies very heavily on the state sector, and transparently so.
DaviidHill 2 years ago
In free society where all adult relationships are voluntary; no one, not even a band of criminals that calls itself 'the state,' can aggress against the person or property of anyone else. Thats real capitalism and we have never had that in this country. What this country has always had is a group of criminals armed to the teeth that threaten and coerce anyone and everyone that does not obey their dictates. That gang is the state. Capitalists do not coerce people, only governments do.
JesseKantstopolis 2 years ago
'Thats real capitalism and we have never had that in this country.'
And yet, like exweez said, the US has become the most powerful and prosperous nation in the history of man.
I've told you that your 'true capitalism' is just a fantasy. Now you're adding insult to injury by proving it's a pointless fantasy.
Brilliant.
MarquisdeBarrabas 2 years ago
I LOVE THIS GUY!!! GO GO GET EM MIKE
STEEEVVYZ 2 years ago
i was just about to say you go get em michael lol
lorndarken 2 years ago
Michael Moore is great!! He shows stuff most people are afraid to even think. We need more people like him.
kathyb1000 2 years ago
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I fucking hate Michael Moore.
alexaundre 2 years ago