@batmanh20 50 above means that the plane is 50ft above the altitude where the pilot has to make a final decision on whether or not to continue the landing. The "Decide" call indicates that the plane has reached this altitude.
Notice the Captain takes control for a bit, He says " you've had enough?" then "Can I take control" and then " sit back relax" Very nice, to see that kind of openess on the flightdeck. I am known to say to the righthand man "you can take it from here"
@MegaEvilToaster They can use it in every runway that is equipped with ILS. Nor the weather, nor the time of the day may affect its usage. However, three ILS categories exist, you can look into it on wikipedia if you want.
I've got quite a few hours in the -400, as well as MD11 and A320 and that's gotta be the first time Ive heard "50 above" and "Decide" calls ... must be a BA thing.
8 20 wow isnt that quick from Vancouver to London ?? I mean its like 4 and a half from vanc to toronto and 5 and a half from TO to to London ?just wondering
No wonder "pilots" have forgotten how to fly (Air France 330 Crew)!
A/P does a wonderful job of flying. Human pilots are the ones who need the practice. Pilots, especially long haul crews should practice hand flying any chance they get. Monitored approach and changing controls so near to the ground is a dangerous practice. So is this weird PM doing the reversing! :-)
40 years and 30,000 hours of safe and mostly "manual" flying,
Monitored approach is no more dangerous than anything else. BA and the RAF have done it for years, and it is standardised and safely monitored. The idea is that the PF has his head up looking for the field, particularly in the case where flying in minimum weather conditions, allowing PNF can fly the initial approach and not have to keep looking out. I recall Ernest Gann doing the same in American Airlines at New York.
@TheAirproxx As far as I know the only limitation on the A/P is it can't be used under 250 feet after takeoff. It's pilot preference on disconnecting the autopilot. If you fly long-haul though, you don't have as many landings as short- or medium haul pilots have. So more manual flight experience is always the best.
@ajdawe Oh, that's a bummer. My current Jeppesen 3.7.4.0 EGLL Airport Information document states, under 1.2.3 (General, Noise Abatement Procedures, Reverse Thrust), "Avoid use of reverse thrust between 2330-0630LT except for safety reasons". Any idea why? Pilots may 'choose' to use it because overuse increases engine wear, fuel flow, vibration, etc., but to stipulate such a rule as concrete is not correct, I'm afraid. Idle reverse means engine power idle, only cowels open.
The FO flies the approach and once the captain is visual he will take control and land. If he doesn't get visual the FO will fly the go around. Roles would be reversed if it was the FO's sector. Im an FO on the airbus and it is the same procedure across all fleets.
For those asking about the transfer of control at 1000ft: BA use a procedure called a monitored approach (one of the only airlines to do this). Depending who's sector it is (In this case the skippers) the captain does the take off and cruise phase of flight and then briefs for the approach and hands control of the aircraft to the FO for the approach.
50 above, decide. What?? What happened to the simple "minimums"? I've never heard that one before. Also, a little weird that the FO makes the approach, Captaing lands, then the FO makes the roll out. Is it because this is a new FO in training on the 747-400?
hey Flyeremjay..........your video is supposedly the best among flight deck videos coz it gives a clear view of the throttle quadrant at touchdown. I am envious.....how you you guys get to the flight deck for videoing?
it would be nice if we could get families flying themselves to destinations rather than relying on airline pilot for air travel. I am hoping one day they will make small family aircraft that can travel across the atlantic and we find somekind of propulsions system that will not require the huge amounts of fuel for such a journey. could we make aircraft smaller than bussiness jets that would fly such distances with better fuel economy
How did you get into the cockpit? I've heard of people asking, but apparently it's illegal for passengers to enter the cockpit of UK registered commercial jets...?
@MyhreProductions Dude....this is an ILS approach only as long as AP is engaged. ILS disengages with AP disconnect. On decision height, its normal to disconnect ILS, AP and AutoThrottle. The pilots then land manually.
@MyhreProductions Dude....this is an ILS approach only as long as AP is engaged. ILS disengages with AP disconnect. On decision height, its normal to disconnect ILS, AP and AutoThrottle. The pilots then land manually. I forgot to mention that Autothrottle is not a part AP. AP controls altitude, heading and ILS along with more complicated approach functions.
@MyhreProductions Good question....pilots do have instructions from the airline as to when to disengage AP. However, a general practice is to disengage it at minimums or before DH. DH is dependent on the ILS installed at the airport. Its not unusual for pilots to fly manually after 500ft.
these guys have to be on their game.so much responsibility... such admiration for them..
almost an 8.5 flight..they must get up and walk around abit..i would hope..can`t be good for the leg circulation....great video..Kirk..Montreal, Canada
@fsxsupremer Thats not flick friend. Thats a LCD display that has a certain screen refresh frequency rate similar to a TV. Videoing from a TV screen always results in flickr in the output video
There seem to be two different sets of call-outs (one male, one female) - one calling out the altitude, one calling out decision heights. What is the system that generates the "female" voice saying "Fifty Above" and "Decide"?
@Garinb747 Its a SOP that BA introduced which many other airlines are now also introducing. The Captain was PF on this Leg, however, he becomes PM from after take off, to on finals. This ensures that all crew are focused on the flight, rather than believing as they are PM or PF they can relax
How many hours do you need for longhaul with British airways. The reason I ask is that virgin Atlantic 1000 hours. So i can choice the best airlines to work for. I am save up to learn to fly
@Virginatlantic28 to go long haul you have to start by short or medium haul. For instance if you apply at British airways I don't think you should expect a direct entry F/O on long-hauling routes. You're most likely to start on with the A320 family or the B737. In the aviation industry you rarely can choose which airline you'll be working for. If you want go to the next level and fly the majors, you send your CV to ALL the major airlines if you meet their minimum requirements.
Fly
liangseong 3 hours ago
Thanks for the Video, I really enjoyed it. I love Boeing 747-400.
R7Tune 1 day ago
Is that an ash tray we keep seeing inside the cockpit under the port Window?
TheLifeEvents 2 days ago
When did you record this? Was this after the 9/11 attacks? If so, how did you gain access into the cockpit and record videos?
IrishAviator1 1 week ago
@IrishAviator1 Its heathrow LONDON not the US........ you just need a pilot's license and if the captain wants you can ride on the cockpit.
GNaranjoN 6 days ago
@IrishAviator1 Probably because he's one of the flight crew!:-)
ianrkav 6 hours ago
wtf 50 above decide :O
batmanh20 3 weeks ago
@batmanh20 50 above means that the plane is 50ft above the altitude where the pilot has to make a final decision on whether or not to continue the landing. The "Decide" call indicates that the plane has reached this altitude.
istvanklein 2 weeks ago
@istvanklein Ohhh :D Thank you
batmanh20 2 weeks ago
This 747 looks like old !
klapiklapi 1 month ago
Hi guy are look forword to your new aircraft in 2013. 12 airbus 380 and 27 Dreamliner 787. Let me know what you think
Virginatlantic28 1 month ago
ILS break out on autopilot at 1500' agl? Yay.
pressclick 1 month ago
terrific view of the back of the captain's seat. superb.
Jingogunner 1 month ago
@Jingogunner And he didn't comb his hair that morning.... Charming!
watchinu66 3 weeks ago
Nice..
awaqas006 1 month ago
Could you still be a pilot if you wear glasses?
TallminJ 1 month ago
@TallminJ Yes, as long as you have 20:20 vision with your glasses on. If not then unfortunately no.
mohsinmohsin 1 month ago
whats the noise at 2:12 ???
ruzbehm 1 month ago
@ruzbehm FMC Message...
ES44ACBNSF 1 month ago
@ruzbehm A wheel fell off....
watchinu66 3 weeks ago
Notice the Captain takes control for a bit, He says " you've had enough?" then "Can I take control" and then " sit back relax" Very nice, to see that kind of openess on the flightdeck. I am known to say to the righthand man "you can take it from here"
DenDen012345 2 months ago
WHAT TO SAY SIMPLY SUPERB
atulpebrahim7 2 months ago 2
How did you get in the cockpit?
FF35Pilot 2 months ago
5:26 love that noise :D
bastol23 2 months ago
Do pilots use ILS on every landing, or is it only at night or in bad weather?
MegaEvilToaster 2 months ago
@MegaEvilToaster i dont know but i qould use it whenever i can xD
TheiMcSjoerd 2 months ago
@MegaEvilToaster They can use it in every runway that is equipped with ILS. Nor the weather, nor the time of the day may affect its usage. However, three ILS categories exist, you can look into it on wikipedia if you want.
MrJuanSebastian1996 2 months ago
I've got quite a few hours in the -400, as well as MD11 and A320 and that's gotta be the first time Ive heard "50 above" and "Decide" calls ... must be a BA thing.
CE750 2 months ago
Why must the seat be in the forward 10 inches during take off and landing?
lexichronicle2 2 months ago
I like this mix male and female ground information ;)
lozimski 2 months ago
How did you get into the cockpit? Do you work for BA?
LeicesterPilot 2 months ago
it this like a care where there is lhd and rhd
raviballer101 2 months ago
BA sure know how to land!
FlightSimmer948 2 months ago
8 20 wow isnt that quick from Vancouver to London ?? I mean its like 4 and a half from vanc to toronto and 5 and a half from TO to to London ?just wondering
leedsutdfc1967 2 months ago
@leedsutdfc1967 Great circle routings are shortest on a globe and via Toronto is not so direct: Google a Great Circle mapper and check it out
ajdawe 2 months ago
@leedsutdfc1967 You've also got the jet stream giving you a big push so easterlies are usually always quicker. Google "Jetstream".
FSXreality 2 months ago
what did F/O say at 2:10 after short bell sound? and what supervisor have done then on the pedestal?
thanks
Abrec66 2 months ago
does the boeing 747-400 have a flight engineer?
pilotforlife100 2 months ago
@pilotforlife100 No. But sometimes a third or even fourth pilot for safety and/or long sectors.
FSXreality 2 months ago
@pilotforlife100 no but the 100/200/300 do and the 747-8 doesnt have one
miamidolphinfan1234 2 months ago
LMFAO ''is this flight simulator?'' Yeah he's got 1TB NVIDEON Super Duper graphics card, iS99 processor, and Flight Simulator 20 from the future...
ryan1111111555555555 2 months ago
No wonder "pilots" have forgotten how to fly (Air France 330 Crew)!
A/P does a wonderful job of flying. Human pilots are the ones who need the practice. Pilots, especially long haul crews should practice hand flying any chance they get. Monitored approach and changing controls so near to the ground is a dangerous practice. So is this weird PM doing the reversing! :-)
40 years and 30,000 hours of safe and mostly "manual" flying,
Captain Ross Aimer
UAL Ret.
RustyAimer787 3 months ago
@RustyAimer787
Monitored approach is no more dangerous than anything else. BA and the RAF have done it for years, and it is standardised and safely monitored. The idea is that the PF has his head up looking for the field, particularly in the case where flying in minimum weather conditions, allowing PNF can fly the initial approach and not have to keep looking out. I recall Ernest Gann doing the same in American Airlines at New York.
ajdawe 2 months ago
What's the BA policy about automations? AutoPilot ON til minimums? Just curious...
TheAirproxx 3 months ago
@TheAirproxx As far as I know the only limitation on the A/P is it can't be used under 250 feet after takeoff. It's pilot preference on disconnecting the autopilot. If you fly long-haul though, you don't have as many landings as short- or medium haul pilots have. So more manual flight experience is always the best.
Kenny9131991 3 months ago
Reverse thrust levers were pulled but didn't push the thrust levers forward to increase thrust... why was this?!
4crevis 3 months ago
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ajdawe 2 months ago
@ajdawe Ok... thanks... very interesting!
4crevis 2 months ago
@ajdawe Oh, that's a bummer. My current Jeppesen 3.7.4.0 EGLL Airport Information document states, under 1.2.3 (General, Noise Abatement Procedures, Reverse Thrust), "Avoid use of reverse thrust between 2330-0630LT except for safety reasons". Any idea why? Pilots may 'choose' to use it because overuse increases engine wear, fuel flow, vibration, etc., but to stipulate such a rule as concrete is not correct, I'm afraid. Idle reverse means engine power idle, only cowels open.
FSXreality 2 months ago
@FSXreality At BA, it is not used in dry, normal conditions beyond reverse idle as a company rule, for exactly the reasons you state.
ajdawe 2 months ago
The FO flies the approach and once the captain is visual he will take control and land. If he doesn't get visual the FO will fly the go around. Roles would be reversed if it was the FO's sector. Im an FO on the airbus and it is the same procedure across all fleets.
Speedbird059 3 months ago
For those asking about the transfer of control at 1000ft: BA use a procedure called a monitored approach (one of the only airlines to do this). Depending who's sector it is (In this case the skippers) the captain does the take off and cruise phase of flight and then briefs for the approach and hands control of the aircraft to the FO for the approach.
Speedbird059 3 months ago
50 above, decide. What?? What happened to the simple "minimums"? I've never heard that one before. Also, a little weird that the FO makes the approach, Captaing lands, then the FO makes the roll out. Is it because this is a new FO in training on the 747-400?
plsniper 3 months ago
I didn't get it that below 1,000 feet why the FO (CM2, PF) hands over his control to Captain (CM1, left seat) to fly into the last short final???
is this sort of normal procedure over BA crew?...
。。。。
BTW, is that also the SOP that FO (PM) to once again deploys the Thrust Reverser, instead of Captain (PF) himself ?
alanbirdHQ 3 months ago
How did you get in the cockpit?
TSBA92 3 months ago
hey Flyeremjay..........your video is supposedly the best among flight deck videos coz it gives a clear view of the throttle quadrant at touchdown. I am envious.....how you you guys get to the flight deck for videoing?
Swimfan070 3 months ago
it would be nice if we could get families flying themselves to destinations rather than relying on airline pilot for air travel. I am hoping one day they will make small family aircraft that can travel across the atlantic and we find somekind of propulsions system that will not require the huge amounts of fuel for such a journey. could we make aircraft smaller than bussiness jets that would fly such distances with better fuel economy
210482fmj 4 months ago
How did you get into the cockpit? I've heard of people asking, but apparently it's illegal for passengers to enter the cockpit of UK registered commercial jets...?
FF35Pilot 4 months ago
I understand that this is a ILS approach.. But why does the FO hold his hands on the throthle and stick before AP disconnect?
MyhreProductions 4 months ago
@MyhreProductions Dude....this is an ILS approach only as long as AP is engaged. ILS disengages with AP disconnect. On decision height, its normal to disconnect ILS, AP and AutoThrottle. The pilots then land manually.
Swimfan070 3 months ago
@MyhreProductions Dude....this is an ILS approach only as long as AP is engaged. ILS disengages with AP disconnect. On decision height, its normal to disconnect ILS, AP and AutoThrottle. The pilots then land manually. I forgot to mention that Autothrottle is not a part AP. AP controls altitude, heading and ILS along with more complicated approach functions.
Swimfan070 3 months ago
@Swimfan070 I know this is an ILS landing, my question was when does the pilots land the plain manually.
I figured out it's diferent from company to company
MyhreProductions 3 months ago
@MyhreProductions Good question....pilots do have instructions from the airline as to when to disengage AP. However, a general practice is to disengage it at minimums or before DH. DH is dependent on the ILS installed at the airport. Its not unusual for pilots to fly manually after 500ft.
Swimfan070 3 months ago
The second sound are the autothrottles being disconnected.
FlyBoyJustin777 4 months ago
these guys have to be on their game.so much responsibility... such admiration for them..
almost an 8.5 flight..they must get up and walk around abit..i would hope..can`t be good for the leg circulation....great video..Kirk..Montreal, Canada
rhymeandreasoning 4 months ago
Do yo have crush on the first officer? hows about pan and show us a bit of outside you know for contexual ref, then back in the flight deck
sirArchitect 4 months ago
Apart from the AP disconnect, what is the sound that follows it at 5:32?
wardyboy6 4 months ago
f in smooth landing genltlemen and do the displays always flick er like that
fsxsupremer 4 months ago
@fsxsupremer Thats not flick friend. Thats a LCD display that has a certain screen refresh frequency rate similar to a TV. Videoing from a TV screen always results in flickr in the output video
Swimfan070 3 months ago
i thought a terriost came in for a minute anyway thank god for youtube this is great
footage wow
MrGeorgeda123 5 months ago
great landing sir
TomAraya23 5 months ago
how did you end up on the flightdeck? i thought no one was after 9/11
speedbird2075 5 months ago
i like when the computer comes on and tells him to 'decide!'
FlexyModern 5 months ago
the copilot's PDF looks a bit broken
stup33d 5 months ago
Awesome dude, best cockpit landig video I've ever seen, good job.
nyumbayamumbi 5 months ago
its not acting funny it's the glare from the angle of the camera lens.
babytweeze85 5 months ago
Why is the screen in front of the co pilot acting funny?!!!
blueinkbottle 5 months ago
@blueinkbottle get your camera and film your television screen or computer screen. You'll then see why it does that.
FienStudios 5 months ago
It really is a fantastic aircraft the 747!
I've never been on one but when i go to Oz next year i'm hopeful that's what i will be flying on!
hearts76100 5 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
is this flight simulater
beyblade328 6 months ago
@beyblade328 no
flyeremjay 6 months ago 29
@beyblade328 no?
TurbineProductionsX 5 months ago
@beyblade328 no thats the right deal
MrGeorgeda123 5 months ago
@beyblade328 How the f*ck could this be flight simulator? :L
Flight322 4 months ago 2
@beyblade328 ta gueule putain
MyBentahar 2 months ago
what was the weird noise at 5:27?
aaronrodgers77 6 months ago 4
@aaronrodgers77 AP disconnect
flyeremjay 6 months ago 8
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herflik16 5 months ago
@aaronrodgers77 I believe is when they turn off the autopilot..
TheHardstyleMasta 6 months ago
@TheHardstyleMasta thnx
aaronrodgers77 6 months ago
@aaronrodgers77 FE flushing toilet.
skylark8008 4 months ago
@aaronrodgers77 game over, time to back to work ;)
lozimski 2 months ago
There seem to be two different sets of call-outs (one male, one female) - one calling out the altitude, one calling out decision heights. What is the system that generates the "female" voice saying "Fifty Above" and "Decide"?
Great video!
greghei1 7 months ago
@greghei1 It's BA's own decision height warning system, I believe.
blueb0g 7 months ago
wats PM or PF?
mejus16 7 months ago
@mejus16 Pilot Flying and Pilot Monitoring.
HotChilliSquirrel 7 months ago
I think the FO thinks he's Eminem for some reason... 0:50 xD
hurtylfc 8 months ago 26
@hurtylfc hahah
jonathanaus2010 7 months ago
So jealous of them pilots, fml.
Trevo711 8 months ago
Why did the Captain take control of the airplane from the FO on final and then give him back control just after touchdown?
Garinb747 8 months ago
@Garinb747 Its a SOP that BA introduced which many other airlines are now also introducing. The Captain was PF on this Leg, however, he becomes PM from after take off, to on finals. This ensures that all crew are focused on the flight, rather than believing as they are PM or PF they can relax
flyeremjay 8 months ago 4
@flyeremjay Great information! Thanks.
Garinb747 8 months ago
@flyeremjay SOP, PF, PM what the fk?
SamSpadeLives 6 months ago
@SamSpadeLives SOP = Standard Operating Procedures, PF = Pilot Flying, PM = Pilot Monitoring
flyeremjay 6 months ago
@flyeremjay cheers guv'nor ✔
SamSpadeLives 6 months ago
@2:18 why there is a flight engineer, i thought flight engineers were for classic 747s only
mcd2daJIZAY 9 months ago
@mcd2daJIZAY It's a relief pilot. If one of the pilots flying want a break, he'll take over. He's not a flight engineer
jordanngregory 9 months ago
@jordanngregory 8 hours and 20 minutes flights doesn't require a relief pilot. So he's not on active duty.. Probably just jumpseating.
gt5004life 8 months ago
@gt5004life some airlines have relief pilots for medium haul. Air NZ for example has a 3 crew setup on 6-10hr flights (usually) on its widebody fleet
scanmannz 8 months ago
At 6:00, just below and to the left of the Captain's charts...is that an ASHTRAY?
TheCriticalCanadian 10 months ago
@TheCriticalCanadian lol
26dacloudsurfer003 9 months ago
Raphy1123@thank you
Virginatlantic28 10 months ago
Raphy1121@ thank you
Virginatlantic28 10 months ago
How many hours do you need for longhaul with British airways. The reason I ask is that virgin Atlantic 1000 hours. So i can choice the best airlines to work for. I am save up to learn to fly
Virginatlantic28 1 year ago
@Virginatlantic28 to go long haul you have to start by short or medium haul. For instance if you apply at British airways I don't think you should expect a direct entry F/O on long-hauling routes. You're most likely to start on with the A320 family or the B737. In the aviation industry you rarely can choose which airline you'll be working for. If you want go to the next level and fly the majors, you send your CV to ALL the major airlines if you meet their minimum requirements.
Roger that ?
;-)
raphy1123 10 months ago
Me too i want to become a pilot!
Tunak11 1 year ago
Are you a crew member BA. Just let you know that best view cockpit.one of my faver aircraft 747-400.it my dream job to work for BA as pilot
Virginatlantic28 1 year ago
Awesome video :)
JamesB767 1 year ago