Cleopatra: A portrait of a killer (part2/6)

[loveshistory012]

I find it rather pointless to have a special on something that was obvious. Cleopatra was a politician and strategist. Like all pharaohs or rulers the ends justify the means. Last of all Cleopatra was Caesar's equal not his seductress. If anything her charisma was her best weapon.

[ThaliaRomo]

These videos are ridiculously biased against Cleopatra. I personally admire Cleo, she was much too smart to not be.

[waynec6504]

Cleopatra was a ruthless women, slept with 2 powerful men to get what she wanted - pussy rules the world - the pussy has the power.

[adoptedbyapopmachine]

@waynec6504 lol

[nameYUnoavailable]

The legend of her rolling herself up in a carpet to smuggle herself into the palace has already been debunked. They say it would have been to suffocating and to hot for her to survive. 

[fannyfae]

The entire Ptolemaic dynasty were a murderous lot! Cleopatra was nothing compared to some of her forebearers who murdered each other - one of which would send bits and pieces of the relative they collectively murdered on their birthday to remind them of their bloody alliance.

[vasp99]

Had her older sister Berenice already been killed by their father at this point in time ? I think so .

[LadyGillian]

why is that expert handling ancient bones without protective gloves? Also, constantly having the Roman historian with his speil, uhm, hostile source who had an agenda to paint the last queen of Egypt as evil as possible, hmmm, look to your OWN blasted history, how many emperors of Rome had 'clean hands' with regards to family members....

[kim84440]

I like this doc. The facts, umm, i would say, still up in the air as far as authenticity, but a nice story, common sense would dictate that Cleopatra was Egyptian Royalty, so ruthlessness shouldn't be so shocking. It's nice to see another story about Cleopatra that didn't only tell about her dealings with the Romans.

[Chlorophylliform]

After years of amateur researching, why am I only finding out now that Cleopatra had a sister?

[joygasm916]

@Chlorophylliform she had a couple actually,at least one older one and Arsinoe.

[dreamer777able]

Its one archeologist's opinion based off Roman hearsay that occurred 300 years later, no DNA, no written Egyptian record, nothing! For all we know, the bones could have been from an official's daughter who was buried there. Lets face it, Rome hated Cleopatra cause she was a woman who wouldn't take crap from them. Henry VIII killed two of his wives and he's still regarded as a great king, Cleopatra supposedly kills her sister to survive and she's a murdering whore? Hypocritical much?

[temptationofmemories]

@dreamer777able I also love how the narrator says by getting into Caesar's bed she was stabbing her sisters and brother in the back when she was already exiled from Alexandria by her family. And seriously who in those days didn't kill their family members. To rule you had to be shrewd and intelligent enough to realize family will stab family in the back over power, such is the way of things. Like they wouldn't have done the exact same thing to her if given the chance, she simply struck first.

[s0flytai]

this is the ROMAN VIEW of cleopatra...basically legend how they told the story 2 their ppl ...and its crazy 2 me how evryone is soo focused on the color of her skin.."i hear shes of color but fair nd greek" shes still Egyptian..

[carolinesalv]

Why dont these people ever wear gloves? u dont handle bones bare handed!!

[ZoeCEubanks]

Arisone was inprionsed by cleoparta then paraded through rome in chains

[kimokamal5]

she was originaly greek, but her greek people have been living in Egypt for over 300 years and that makes her fully fledged Egyptian, the same as someone Irish immigrate to america and his great grand childeren become fully fledged americans. the greeks came to egypt and saw a civilization far older and superior to their's so they aspired to be Egyptians and to adapt egyptian culture which is also superior to the greek one.

[kimokamal5]

she was a descendent of Ptolemey who is a general in Alexander's army. and ptolomey wanted to legitimize his rule as a Pharaoh and he did so by marrying a dotter of the last pharaoh of Egypt, so who is to say that Cleo doesnt have Egyptian blood!? that would be nonsense.

kimokamal5

[gebhartma]

The guy touches the 2000 years old bones with his bare hands. No gloves when working on this " evidence"? Please correct me if I am wrong. Next time I go to Paris I'll do the same thing with the Mona Lisa painting to see how long it takes to get arrested hehe. (Or may be when you work with ancient bones you don't need gloves at all.. Don't know)

[knowledgecollection]

For people that just started to research Cleopatra's life, please do not refer to this documentary obviously very Roman. There is so much information missed in between the story told.

[knowledgecollection]

For people that just started to research Cleopatra's life, please do not refer to this documentary obviously very Roman. There is so much information missed in between the story told.

[kikyohater411]

They are only following legend, which has been provem wrong! This is obvious by how they portray Cleopatra. I wonder if it even occured to them that the stories are false and most things did not happen that way.

[jadeddreams707]

Many people dispute this video for its lack of solid evidence. They bring up the argument against the mixed race:"The Ptolemaic Dynasty followed the matrilinear nature of succession, a system in which one belongs to one's mother's lineage; inheritance of property or titles through the female line. This is why extensive inbreeding matings occurred." However, they forget about adultery and secret affairs; skeletons in the closets. They could've been mixed. :P

[HistoryLover1550]

 Cleopatra was a smart one!

[HistoryLover1550]

Too bad the names of the actors, besides cleopatra and Ian Mcneice, are not given in the credits.

[alanth252]

I`m not convinced. Arsinoë was born circa. 68 or 67 BC. She would have been 20 or 19 years old at the time of the battle in Alexandria. If the bones are those of Arsinoë then either the historians have got their dates wrong, or the age of the bones at death (i.e 14 - 17) have been wrongly assessed by the bone "expert". There could be a little leeway in the actual age of Arsinoe, and also of the age of the bones at death, but I think the limits of such leeways have been exceeded.

[EmilyGreene1984]

@alanth252 They are still conducting forensic tests on the human remains as well as the tomb itself - just to be sure. But really, what other person could it be that would be buried in that tomb?

[adoptedbyapopmachine]

@alanth252 I think I'll take my chances believing in actual experts,instead of random anonymous youtube user.

[himeizayoi]

Queen of Egypt with Greek blood who was part of the Ptolemy family who murdered each other to get to the throne

Cleo had kids with caesar but were later murdered by octavius who said that two caesar's is too many

[HistoryLover1550]

@himeizayoi Cleopatra had one son by Caesar, Caesarion, and three by Antony.

[BlackSheep87]

I wish there was some way to get the music between 1:28 and 1:51

[JaredThaJa]

Plutarch was Greek

[gawjames]

I watched that one too.

[Gvanillavodka]

@whitekudu i should probably watch and find out for myself, but ill ask anyways are you saying that the cranial measurements arent matched up with the african type facial structure?

[onikalove]

it suggests that it may have african type but cleopatra and arsinoe were half sisters and their father was greek and cleopatra 's mother was greek but we don't know who was arisone's mother

[Niteowl128]

@onikalove most recent historians dispute Cleopatra VII's maternal parentage. While it is certain that Cleopatra V mothered Auletes' elder daughters Cleopatra Tryphaena and Berenike, she died about a year or two before Cleopatra VII's own. The mothers of Arsinoë IV, as well as Ptolemy XIII and Ptolemy XIV, it has been thought that their mother's were Auletes' lower, Egyptian wives and that could also be the case for Cleopatra VII

[Niteowl128]

@onikalove And also the Ptolemies had been in Egyptian for about 300 years, and the idea of miscegenation not occurring at all is highly unlikely. Especially since it was Alexander the Great's over all goal to have miscegenation happen in his empire. Also, it wouldn't be surprising to see Cleopatra and her siblings having African blood in them. Especially since Egypt is in an African nation.

[HistoryLover1550]

@Niteowl128 Surely the Ptolemaic kings had harems with women from across the mediterranean world.

[Lilim27]

@onikalove guess that doesn't proof Cleopatra is also African at all, Arsinoe's mum was probably an African concubine as they were not allowed to marry African's and why Arsinoe had a much lower chance to become queen due to her bi-raciality. Why can't even just accept that?

[Sanja1405972]

at the end of this part, for a moment, I felt like Terminator has revived again :)

great documentary!

[gothicash]

I like the narrator's accent! Its no cute! Thank you for uploading this history lover!

[phantomf41]

@gothicash He's turkish. Turkish accent is music to my ears.