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  • @cdtank1 a z1 turbo would get raped by these sleds

  • id like to see one of them beat a z1 turbo

  • sorry tommy but i dont think my apex will get passed by any xc700sp. yamaha may be slow out of at the start but they make up for it on the top.

  • 4 stroke sleds are definately the sickest sounding things iv ever heard! too bad 2 strokes are on their last leg theyre great but 2 stroke owners including myself lets just hope we dont see one of these beasts fly by us out on the trail.wow.

  • @RonniesGarage Idkk man. THese things are nuts for suree. My uncle has a 2010 FX Nytro and we have a '00 Polaris XC 700, and our races are pretty neck and neck. Ill always love the sound of a 2 stroke more tho, personally

  • @Vashie0 i mostly ride dirtbikes and i know for sure id choose a 2stroke over a 4 stroke for bikes even if the new 4's are faster the violent powerband of a 2 stroke is much more enjoyable. and thats good to know because ive got a 1999 Polaris XC 700 SP lol. my first sled and damn it moves! just gotta rejet th carbs she aint runnin to good past 80mph. is your sled carb'd or efi?

  • @RonniesGarage Its carb'd...i believee. Im relatively young, and we bought the sled used, so i still dont know too much about it, except for one thing. It is scary fastt. Hahaha. We went from an 86 Skidoo 355 or somethin to this...and it is quite the upgrade! Weve had quite a few problems with it so far tho

  • @RonniesGarage I don't think 2 strokes are on their last leg. A friend's sled broke when we went out riding and he had to rent. He had a vector one day, and a phazer the next. Neither sled were worth a crap compared to even my 600. The vector did have decent power, and was ok on trails that was it. The phazer was very underpowered and incredibly tippy.

  • @bigstudtommy93 yes i agree the power too weight ratio of a 2 stroke is great. but in time the 4 strokes will have their way they did in motocross and quads but theres nothing like the smell of premix and. the look of some guy on a $10 000 4 stroke sled getting passed by an old xc700sp!! hahaha. and yes the new 4 strokes are a bit heavy but so were the first 4 stroke quads and mx bikes sadly in time they will be superior.

  • its funny the brand loyalty wars on sleds its soooo childish.

    All four of the big manufacturers make good sleds, but whats a good sled for one person is a horrible sled for another, find the one that suits you best and enjoy.

    Im a 4stroke fan and wouldn't own 2 stroke but that doesn't mean Im right and they are wrong it just means we like different things

  • what stage turbo is on the nytro and how much power is she making?

  • Im a Yamaha and Ski Doo nut, every part on them is a work of art, which i cannot say about a arcticcat or polaris. They all make good sleds though and i would be happy to own any of them

  • for you guys who think skidoo is the best, your wrong, i know this because i own one currently. 2005 mach z 1000, lots of nice features, but just after 3000 miles, it blew up, cost me 4000$, doesnt seem like 4 stroke yamahas are having this problem, this year i bought an apex.... end of story.

  • It's ironic that Yamaha is the only company that stopped building 2 stroke sleds, but is the only company (Jap) to still build a 2 stroke MX bike.

  • I have over 5800 miles on my 2003 ski-doo rev without any rebuilds and its still fast as fuck

  • horse shit ski-doo is by far the best snowmobile manufacturer out there!!!

    AND FOR THE RECORD ARCTIC CAT SUCKS BALLS!!!!

  • @SuperSoccerdude9 You sure do have lots of facts to go along with your theory.

  • I owned and rode a cat ZR and it was the biggest piece of shit i ever had, switched to ski-doo and never looked back.

  • yamahas 4 stroke sleds will beat almost anything. my stock phazer beat a polaris 620 2 stroke

  • dudes, 4 stroke with mcx turbo is the shit, thats some sick sleds !

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  • formulan17 arctic cat is the best shit-doo blows

  • Ski Doo's are JUNK!

  • Ski doos are a solid sled, Now if we are on the topic of junk sleds Arctic cat needs to be brought up. Hands down the worst sled as far as reliability and service.

  • amen cats suk yamis doos and polaris is where its at

  • hahahahah SkidooFan9....skidoos are NOT the most realiable sled out there all sleds blow up, skidoos just do it more then others, all my buddys own skidoos, and there JUNK they barely get down the driveway before they blow up

  • @22BigGulp Another man that speaks the truth.

  • well thas him and he must not know how to drive because ive owned ski-doo all my life and none of them have blown up so dont talk shit

  • oh really? you and your friends must be stupid hill billies riding 86 citations with no oil.

  • @22BigGulp ignorance.

  • two strokes FTW

  • sweet

  • 2lbs? 9lbs..

  • The 1200 4 stroke ski doo is a piece of shit,I rode one,all I can say is junk,I do own a 08 nytro,there is no comparison.Ski doo guys know what I'm talking about if you have one.....(junk)

  • All the new 4-strokes bore me to death.

  • That's because you obviously have never rode one. Get on one with a turbo and report back to us. No can say that 240 HP between our legs is, "boring"

  • You act like 240hp in a 600lb machine is some kind of unheard of performance benchmark. I'm here to tell you, it isn't. I find 4-strokes boring, you're going to tell me what I find interesting? fuck off clown

  • Weren't we on the topic of boredom? Power to weight ratio, or your opinion on interests wasn't brought up. Look, I respect your opinion and I don't disagree with the issue you have with the weight. But like I said, how can you be bored riding a sled with that much power.

  • must just get bored with 4 strokes because he misses repairing his 2 stroke all the time

  • @jordanaxlgibson ski-doos are without a doubt the most reliable sled out there.

  • haha is this a joke??!! Yamaha always has been and continues to be the most reliable, ski-doo= least reliable by far is what i think you meant to say.

  • yes yes yes SO TRUE

  • its true because i cant go riding with one of my friends. he bought one and so far it blew up like 2 times in one winter.

  • Put an Apex Turbo 09 vs. Nytro Turbo 09. Nytro would still win because it's a bit lighter. But in the long run, an apex is much better.

  • Haha of coarse the nitro wins the apex let off and the nitro is an 08 the apex it 07 lol

  • Cat z1 vs. Boosted apex.. Ahahhahaha.. Nice try.. Whats the z 2lbs of boost.. ahahahhaha...

  • yeah, whatever..

    arctic cats z1 turbo? kicks the shit out of the apex.

  • haha bullshit

  • i would love to see that

  • YAMAHA saw what the future will require and went 4 stroke early and now it is paying off for them... they have truly mastered the art of the 4 stroke sled no matter what the riding terrain

  • I thank you for this comment, Someone who knows what their talking about finally lol

  • 4 strokes are for cars, reliable, heavy, long lasting, slow. 2 strokes are for sleds, quick, light, fast, powerfull, and you wont be sweating your ball sack off at the end of the day from the weight

  • dodgedude i'd like to see a 990 thundercat out run one of those new 1200 that guy would have you caught b4 ur tach hit 6500

  • Ha Ha Ha Ha HA!!!!! Are you kidding!!!

  • you can't possibly be talking about the new ski doo 4 tech 1200? because that has about the same power as a 600 and would get murdered by a thundercat and they would both get killed by a turbo apex

  • oh ok i didnt know everyone i talk to about em' says they r pretty fast my bad didnt know my facts but yeah i dnt get the big deal about the thundercats they'r kinda ugly

  • DAMN!!!!!!

  • sound is all fucked....

  • ha ur saying your stock 96 polaris 650 can beat a skidoo 1200? i would love to see that...idiot

  • the new cop sleds are the 1200's and a buddy with his 600 arctic cat and my 650 out ran them

  • maybe they just sucked...

  • yami rules

  • ¡¡¡oǝpıʌ ǝɯosǝʍɐ

  • thos sleds are amazing

  • nice cool

  • I picked Yamaha for the value. It is worth more after two or three years compared to the others. The 1200 will turn out to be a great sled but I think they need a more intense motor to take away from Yamaha. The super charger from the 1200 seadoo bolted up to the 1200XP! This is what Yamaha needs as well. Can't deny the light weight advantages. For drag speed going up hill or on the flat I think the 800R takes the cake. It is carburated. That motor will fade away as it is not E-Tec or I-Tec.

  • i love the sound at the beginning when they all take off. i used to have an apex turbo and those things are crazy, i want to ride a nytro turbo to see how they are

  • because that track cought better

  • what if it was whitout turbo?

  • because the nytro is lighter the apex had way more of a advantage but it isnt much lighter anyway arctic cat and skidoo are the best

  • haha yeah right nno arctic cat or ski doo would come even close to touching these sleds and hows does the apex have more of an advantage when its heavier, besides the nytro won

  • LOL Hey man! LOL Now I can say by experiance that the nytro WILL and DOES kill EVERYTHING. lol That turbo is NUTS.

  • Haha i know its funny becuase most of these idiots on you-tube have no idea

  • HA! yes man i know! Like when you beat a summit 800 UPHILL on a 4 stroke fx nytro RTX (which isnt the mountain version) thats sad that they still think skidoo is better lol I know I have a turbo but still, even b4 I did I was still beating 800's LOL

  • ski doo 1200

  • the 1200 is a peace of shit

  • and how do u know this.

  • my dad has one, my apex beats the shit out of it. bigger CC doesnt mean shit man.

  • true they are they cant do shit...i got a 1996 polaris 650 triple stock but with triple pipe and i can beat a 1200 ski doo easy

  • Turbo that shit and that'd be a fucking beast. I would love to have that.

  • have wat a apex or my sled????

  • Have yours turbo. Triples are fucking powerful. If you have a turbo on it that this would beat anysled.

  • ya my 650 has a lot of power...idk if i could get a turbo for it....it would sound kool with the whisle of the turbo

  • Yea it would. I always wanted a 650 triple.

  • I call bull shit on that...

  • wat you got a 440 ski doo...650's have some power behind them they are a very good sled if you know how to run them without blowin a plug

  • your dumb

  • arctic cat and skidoo are the worst.

    how many old arcic cats and skidoos do you see compared to yamaha and polaris?

    not very many.

  • There is a guy up here with a whole junk yard full of Skidoo parts. I never seen so many old skidoo's before. The Artic Cats I don't think are worth keeping for parts. You would need too much space to store everything.

  • yeah but do the sleds run

  • (comment to kertbert1)

  • Skidoo has got to be number 1 or 2 for top sled dog. Polaris has adopted several great things from BRP including RER. The closest thing to a true snowcross sled you can get is from skidoo. Second is Yamaha. When you buy Yamaha your buying a motor first. With BRP they have a great handling sled but the motors are prone to failure, not talking the 1200.

  • yea lol i ride yami, but i like that arctic cat is made in the u.s

  • And fixed in the U.S. ;-)

  • hell yea!

  • chassis is made in the US. motor is a product of suzuki.

  • fuck i didnt know that. thats gay.

  • sure is my friend.

  • damn japs

  • love to see nytro beat that apex:)

  • hey ski poo lover shut youre pie hole!

  • got to buy it sry typo

  • do you have to buy the turbo or the Nytro or does it come with it?

  • got too ut it

  • Wanna see a turbo tearing up the back yard? Search for...Yamaha Turbo Snowmobile in our back yard

  • hmmm. ok then I guess it is settled. The Yamahas suck and it is like having a wife on the back when you ride one. Ski-Doo is better in snocross, trails, mountains, lakes and woods. That is why they have #1 market share. I will still vote for the 2009 Nytro as the most kick ass sled of the year.

  • go home dumbass

  • one question - where does the 2 stroke oil actually go?

  • The same way the gas goes but not so much of it.

  • u forgot 1 thing..... drag

  • grab the new snowest mag theres a deep powder challenge.......the xp smokes the apexs makes the 99 foot climbs look easy while the apxs die at 300 feet lol so much for the apex rage when it comes to the vertical powder theres just no compare.......snowest was amazed just how much difference there was..apex150hp dry weight 632 lbs wet 694...xp151hp 154 inch dry 456lbs wet 530lbs....how can it have a chance against that lol...164 lbs heavier like havin the wife on with ya lmao

  • I rode a turbo nytro yesterday... holy fun.

    QUIET and FAST really FAST in the mountains..

    If I had deeper pockets I'd be all over a turbo.

  • yamahas are tanks...why the hell would you want to be in the mountains with one...the other three main sled makers are so much lighter i don't care what you say. when your in the mountains it's not fun diggin out those bastered. the m's,revs,and i.qs are so much nicer

  • Unless you were on the Ski-Doo Rev. platform development team and are totally tainted from your project involvement- you have no reason to mock the Yami. I would suggest you ride the new 2009 Doo, 3 cyl. four-stroke machine. Because if you did that you would realize that Yamaha is so progressive that the others, including Doo, are scrambling to catch up with the engine technology. The Doo is awesome and maybe even better in the mountains but the Yami is the cats meow and everyone knows it.

  • ski doo is no where near scrambling to catch up with engine tech. they've headed in a different direction. i'm gonna guarantee that your 4 stroke cant get the mileage an 800 ptek can even though they have the same power. you may have more torque, but the 800 has got you by 100 lbs. if anyone is scrambling it's yamaha to put those good engines into a light frame with suspension that feels like it's from this decade.

  • If you read the thread above - you

  • If you read the thread above - you

  • If you read the thread above - you would see that I love Ski-Doo. My good friend was on the platform deveopment team in Canada. They are releasing a 4 stroke in 2009 for a reason and it was indeed a scramble. Yes Yamaha is working on the weight but for a large % of riders it is not a factor - especially with a 300HP supercharged mountain sled. Even trail sledders are ok with it. What is the different direction you are talking about? Not the engine - because it will be a 4 stroke - promise.

  • ya now the relaeased that 4 stroke......AND its a huge peice of shit.....yamaha rules the 4 stroke everyone else mise well quit trying

  • It took Yamaha ~4 years to get a proper 4-stroke.

    Ski-doo nailed it the first year.

  • ski doo didnt nail shit with the 4 tech its a huge peice of shit.......like come one its 1200cc and has as much horse as a 600 and they expect to compete with the apex's with that how?....the nytros destroy those 4 techs

  • Lower performance = Higher engine reliability. Sure, I agree that they would've added a couple of horsepower but when putting a turbo on it, it gets CRAZY.. That engine got potencial for very many horsepowers if it gets in a skilled tuners hand.

  • so does a yamaha, don't you have better things to do then go on a yamaha video and talk shit about yamaha and try to tell us ski-doo is better.

    do you really think that if someone prefers yamaha over ski-doo they will change their minds after reading some comments on a youtube video? and if they do they obviously dont know shit.

    so save it.

  • Just telling you that the Skidoo 1200 is what took Yamaha 4 years..

    By the way you're from Canada, learn some proper English. You should be ashamed.

  • oh i am sorry, i did not realize i was talking to the language police, i will keep this short, since you probably have a very busy life checking every comment for some sort of mistake.

    get a life looser!

    p.s. your room is very messy you should be ashamed of yourself too.

  • hahahaha

  • If you read the thread above - you would see that I love Ski-Doo. My good friend was on the platform deveopment team in Canada. They are releasing a 4 stroke in 2009 for a reason and it was indeed a scramble. Yes Yamaha is working on the weight but for a large % of riders it is not a factor - especially with a 300HP supercharged mountain sled. Even trail sledders are ok with it. What is the different direction you are talking about? Not the engine - because it will be a 4 stroke - promise.

  • ide rather the new e tec its cleaner than the 4 stroke lighter and only needs a tank of oil every 600-1000 miles

  • I have no clue which comment your replying to ..but if your throwing ski doo slurs actually they turn a ring around 3000 miles lol..and with 4 years engine coverage i could give a damn..turned 3 rings on my 800 mxz x one at 3000 Mi one at 6000 Mi and one at 9000 Mi..so at 11.5 k when the warrenty ran out i put new rings :-)...hurt one wall in the process on the second turned ring...didnt burn down once, all ring slipping issues..dont like that piston design BUT just ordered another like it lol

  • Good Advice

  • You have absolutely NO idea what you're talking about!

    Those machines is like a car, never blow up.

  • ya hilldill snowest finishes their deep powder challeng article saying you better be on an xp if you dont want to spend a night in a snow cave lol...the 800 foot hill they were trying the xp would do in 33 seconds while the apex lasted 14 seconds for get this a total of 209 feet ....you apex guys can take em and stick em lmao...know what im buying next year....they need to buy the extra 25 lbs of turbo and void warrenty just to come close to an xp lol

  • i dont know...the new yamaha nitro is pretty impressive, but ya the skidoo's are pretty good

  • yamaha's are awsome,i dont know what your talking about

  • Yamahas are good but bombardier is leading in the snow mobile world

  • i have a 96 formula and i am getting a job just so i can get a nytro stx.

  • and there goes the nytro!

  • I know a guy had a choice between a Nytro and an M8 he took the M8 ....DUMASS

  • This is for all u guys that think yamaha blows

  • I ride a Polaris and I'm saving my money for a nytro

  • I just bought a nytro but it havent come any snow yet =( just test drived it 3 times

  • nytro owns

  • nice, i was just looking at nytros and apex's today. i got an artic cat mountain cat 600, but the nyrto kicks its butt

  • to bad the suspension goes smash first jump you hit watch my may 27 vid same jump we all hit the apex broke...love the sled still just needs an aftermarket suspension if you plan to use the thing...loads of torque stock turbo makes it sick ...on the lake or straight up

  • i love fucking turbos they are sick

  • yea dumass, its got 12 less horse but also 90lbs less weight!i heard the stock nytro is supposed to go as good as last years 800 rev for weight and power

  • hey japex911, YOUR A RETARD! it wouldn't lose because it has less horsepower! the chassis is completely different and it's lighter too, thus it is comparable to the apex. don't say anything unless you know what you're saying!

  • If they were running equal amounts of boost the apex would win, the nytro is probably set up to have 250 horse and the apex only set up for 225 or so

  • no in this race it came down to wieght and the nytro is a lil bit lighter then the apex thats y it won

  • Only if yamaha didnt de-tune the nytro's because they were beating the apex's.just think how kick ass they would be

  • i love nytros

  • dude the nytro has 12 less horses it would lose

  • actually, the nytro would win because of the weight ratio. if you turned the turbo up on the apex, it would kick the nytro's butt. the nytro weighs fifty or so less pounds, so that 12 horsepower doesnt make a difference. when you add the weight, the apex gobbles up those extra horepower, leaving it slower then the nytro! thanks

  • bullshit man i own an apex rx1 and a nytro and neither touch the apex

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