I would venture to say, far more people get hurt learning self defense than in real self defense. Do I really need to practice ripping into a face? No, none of you "experienced" shredding. Your eyes, ears, throat, etc, did not get damaged. My point is, why spend so much time "practicing" ripping into a face area and "expericencing" it? No shit, it does damage quick, and legally, you have better be able to justify such severe actions. I liike Dimitri, but enough with this shredding time.
I've used the Shredder for real (2x) and it's worked for me. It does take the fight out of people and puts you in a better position to follow up with a choke, good strikes or break.
lmao @ the idiots replying here. You guys seem to have your minds on one thing, seems you proved yourselves you still haven't come out of the closet. Go ahead, no shame in it. LOL!
Why would you just stand there and take someone poking you in the face, you really think this shit works dont think so. I think you just liked having your balls grabbed by another man, it looks like you enjoyed it.
Shredding has one major disadvantage that we are too polite to incorporate into our training. Cover a really violent person's face and they will bite you fingers/hand very hard. You will possibly loose your fingers and get infected with Hepatitis or HIV.
Quite impressive. I was a bodyguard for a year and a half, and have been in martial arts for about 15 years. I think the shredder is one of the best "street" tools available for the martial artist's tool box.
We are currently working on adding it to our combat jujitsu curriculum.
@scienceman030 are you serious? all this guys is doing is trying to scratch your face and you're telling me that impresses you? A grappler would love to go to the ground with someone like this and break him into pieces. this guy fights like a pissed off woman.
@123bigpete123 Yep. I'm serious. I'm a grappler too, and initially thought the same as you. I learned quickly though. Do you think this stops when you hit the ground?
If you are feeling bulletproof, invite Dimitri down to prove it to you. Tell him your thoughts. And post it to youtube. PLEASE!
It's tough to hook a kimura as your wind-pipe is being crushed. It works better than it looks. Promise. Test-drive it. We wouldn't have it in our curriculum if we hadn't. We are fully convinced.
@scienceman030 come on bro! i'm a grappler too and I would never pay for anyone to come down and show me how to smother a guys face with my hands. I don't understand what you are learning? Any woman can do this naturally.
Is the 'shredder tool' just clawing & gouging with the hand? or are there other elements to this attack that cant be seen clearly in this vid? (e.g. Chi or forward energy or wiggling his fingers, sharp nails etc) Curious is all...
It involves eye gouging ear pulling, clawing, cussing, spitting, growling, biting, tearing, ripping, etc., it's brutal. The movements are on the quarter beats instead of half beats, so there is no space between them for retaliation. Each attack, for instance eye gouging, generates a specific reaction in your opponent which sets up the next shred attack.
The end goal is not necessarily a dead or defeated opponent, but one who's psychological will to fight has been utterly decimated.
I've have some friends that have been shredded and are friend with Richard as well. They say it's unlike anything you've ever felt. They say you have to experience it to understand what it's like.
@mikereis77 I agree 100%. I just had the "pleasure" of being shredded and it is so disorienting that you're trained responses go out the window. You truly have to have this done to you to fully appreciate the effectiveness.
@muskysnax That's what I've heard from those who have trained with Rich. I would like to go threw just to feel it, but at the same time I'm not in a huge rush.
@mikereis77 Unfortunately (or perhaps FORTUNATELY) it wasn't Rich that shredded me but it was from folks who trained with him. What an amazing system!
Joe, I know how you felt. I asked to be shredded in Sydney and it felt like I needed a face realignment, a new nose, ears and something to cath the water pouring out of my eyes... Somethign you dont want to go through vey often... and it was only a demonstration.. imagine the real thing!
Ouch. Devastating. Been on the receiving end of one of those myself, nothing you can do. Ashamed to say I asked to attack him full force in a seminar. I ended up like you. :)
I would venture to say, far more people get hurt learning self defense than in real self defense. Do I really need to practice ripping into a face? No, none of you "experienced" shredding. Your eyes, ears, throat, etc, did not get damaged. My point is, why spend so much time "practicing" ripping into a face area and "expericencing" it? No shit, it does damage quick, and legally, you have better be able to justify such severe actions. I liike Dimitri, but enough with this shredding time.
rbt4rbt 1 month ago
roy elghanayan would kick this guys ass
shiftjeenyus 6 months ago
OMG! SOOOOOO Dimitri! The nut grab! "It's a beautiful thing!"
meeztana 6 months ago
right.... staged no?
thechewboxlive 7 months ago
wooooooooo that some fuck up shit
wakboth666 10 months ago
"Take the fight out of people" is exactly what I thought when watching this video. Big Joe Saunders just didn't want to be there anymore. Nice.
fedorabletk 1 year ago
I've used the Shredder for real (2x) and it's worked for me. It does take the fight out of people and puts you in a better position to follow up with a choke, good strikes or break.
Usag1Yoj1mbo 1 year ago
It looked staged at first but daym later u could see the fingers up his nose and in his eyes omg
AsianStyled 1 year ago
lmao @ the idiots replying here. You guys seem to have your minds on one thing, seems you proved yourselves you still haven't come out of the closet. Go ahead, no shame in it. LOL!
kdbilr3z 1 year ago
Why would you just stand there and take someone poking you in the face, you really think this shit works dont think so. I think you just liked having your balls grabbed by another man, it looks like you enjoyed it.
subzeroR8 1 year ago
Hahaha...Joe, you should come and train in Krav Maga. It would help you to avoid ending up in that position.
FUK925 1 year ago
@FUK925
Shredder kills krav. Been there. It sucks.
Drandon 1 year ago
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FightingFitnessUK 1 year ago
Shredding has one major disadvantage that we are too polite to incorporate into our training. Cover a really violent person's face and they will bite you fingers/hand very hard. You will possibly loose your fingers and get infected with Hepatitis or HIV.
FightingFitnessUK 1 year ago
Quite impressive. I was a bodyguard for a year and a half, and have been in martial arts for about 15 years. I think the shredder is one of the best "street" tools available for the martial artist's tool box.
We are currently working on adding it to our combat jujitsu curriculum.
Well done men.
scienceman030 2 years ago
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GaurdDuck 2 years ago
@scienceman030 are you serious? all this guys is doing is trying to scratch your face and you're telling me that impresses you? A grappler would love to go to the ground with someone like this and break him into pieces. this guy fights like a pissed off woman.
123bigpete123 1 year ago
@123bigpete123 Yep. I'm serious. I'm a grappler too, and initially thought the same as you. I learned quickly though. Do you think this stops when you hit the ground?
If you are feeling bulletproof, invite Dimitri down to prove it to you. Tell him your thoughts. And post it to youtube. PLEASE!
It's tough to hook a kimura as your wind-pipe is being crushed. It works better than it looks. Promise. Test-drive it. We wouldn't have it in our curriculum if we hadn't. We are fully convinced.
scienceman030 1 year ago
@scienceman030 come on bro! i'm a grappler too and I would never pay for anyone to come down and show me how to smother a guys face with my hands. I don't understand what you are learning? Any woman can do this naturally.
123bigpete123 1 year ago
@123bigpete123
Interestingly enough that's where the idea came from.
thefirstnobletruth 1 year ago
@scienceman030
Is the 'shredder tool' just clawing & gouging with the hand? or are there other elements to this attack that cant be seen clearly in this vid? (e.g. Chi or forward energy or wiggling his fingers, sharp nails etc) Curious is all...
Donkyfishy 1 year ago
@Donkyfishy
It involves eye gouging ear pulling, clawing, cussing, spitting, growling, biting, tearing, ripping, etc., it's brutal. The movements are on the quarter beats instead of half beats, so there is no space between them for retaliation. Each attack, for instance eye gouging, generates a specific reaction in your opponent which sets up the next shred attack.
The end goal is not necessarily a dead or defeated opponent, but one who's psychological will to fight has been utterly decimated.
Drandon 1 year ago
@Drandon
Cheers for the info, I love the way you describe it, decimated is one of those words that doesnt get used enough.
Donkyfishy 1 year ago
I've have some friends that have been shredded and are friend with Richard as well. They say it's unlike anything you've ever felt. They say you have to experience it to understand what it's like.
mikereis77 2 years ago
@mikereis77 I agree 100%. I just had the "pleasure" of being shredded and it is so disorienting that you're trained responses go out the window. You truly have to have this done to you to fully appreciate the effectiveness.
muskysnax 10 months ago
@muskysnax That's what I've heard from those who have trained with Rich. I would like to go threw just to feel it, but at the same time I'm not in a huge rush.
mikereis77 10 months ago 2
@mikereis77 Unfortunately (or perhaps FORTUNATELY) it wasn't Rich that shredded me but it was from folks who trained with him. What an amazing system!
muskysnax 10 months ago
Dude... he touched your penis. :-(
IronMongoose1 2 years ago
@IronMongoose1 they touched each other's jaggons?
Abobojo 1 year ago
Joe, I know how you felt. I asked to be shredded in Sydney and it felt like I needed a face realignment, a new nose, ears and something to cath the water pouring out of my eyes... Somethign you dont want to go through vey often... and it was only a demonstration.. imagine the real thing!
eastsbeach 2 years ago
Ouch. Devastating. Been on the receiving end of one of those myself, nothing you can do. Ashamed to say I asked to attack him full force in a seminar. I ended up like you. :)
kdbilr3z 2 years ago