Steve is sounding a bit like Adrian Belew here imho. i appreciate the reimagining of the piece, but i much prefer the original drum track from Phil : )
I guess what I don't like is that it seems like just about all the posts are stuff from when he was with Genesis...only parts really...I liked him when he was with Genesis...he needs to lose that part unless it's a song he wrote maybe.
I agree with the comments, three minute chords held down on the keyboard, waltz like drums playing, and slack bass. The keyboard player looks stoned out of his mind. Even though I am a big Hackett fan, I'm sorry to say this is the worst steve hackett video on youtube, I hope it was just the heat getting to them because this is just terrible. It's videos like this on youtube that make me wish I hadn't wake in the morning.
@skintrade all you guys are outta your tits. hacketts fucking with the shit. hercules unchained!!! he rips ass all the way through it karate chops, if i was there i would have been screaming on top of my lungs in ecstacy
OMG!!!! c'est un massacre...That's a fuckin' joke...All the harmonies that I've heared on the studio version are....not here...WTF? My ears are crying and bleeding and...That's all for now.
I have to agree with you guys...this is easily the most slapdash, our-hearts-aren't-really-in-it versions of one of the great, classic Genesis instrumentals of all time. Living proof that even the greatest musicians can stumble and fall into the mud. The solos weren't bad--they hardly ever are--but this arrangement was pathetic.
remember Genesis doing this at birmingham on the mama tour omg it was fantastic and mikes bass pedals shook the foundations of the NEC unlike this shite , not ya best moment Steve !
@anonymusum agreed. Compared to any of the Genesis live 1977 versions (bootlegs) this version is awful. The drummer doesn't have even remotely the skills of Phil and Chester, the keyboarder sounds like he as unable to get the chords right - the tempo is way too fast and what the heck is a soprano sax doing there? Makes it sound to artsy-jazzy as opposed to the powerful Genesis wall of sound with killer drumming. BTW: where is the second half of the music containing the 11th Earl motif on synth?
To reply to bassidol, I actually think this version sounds closer to Camel than to KC... During the keyboard solo, I started to get that Camel-Rain Dances album groove... This is isn't your standard note-for-note recreation of Genesis, and although I think the guitar sound effects was a bit much, I still enjoyed it for what it was.
If King Crimson did this song it would sound like this. Hackett solo has a different agenda from Genesis, his band tends toward a jazz-rock that tends toward cacophony at times. It's unfair, though, to compare a live performance to the studio creation in "Wind and Wuthering." I do think that his live version went on too long, and would have loved to have heard ". . . In that Quiet Earth" also.
I've got to say, that is one train wreck of a version. I'm a big admirer of SH, and I'm convinced that he was the person, (not PG or Tony) who made Genesis something special, but to my ears, this is nonsense.
Agreed 100%. IMHO Steve's magic worked incredibly well with Tony's tasteful kayboards and Phil's unique drumming, not to forget Mike's bass lines and rhythm guitars.
Here Steve seems to go for something almost Zappa-esque. I also think that most of his Genesis solos performed by him post-Genesis sound too much "jazz fusion" and "artsy". Doesn't work for me. Perhaps we all have it wrong trying to point out one single "genius" band member. I think the secret is in the team work.
I disagree on the solo parts. I think that Genesis solos we're brilliant, melodic and very atmospheric. And while I disagree with the middle section of this song, which has a single chord for too long of a period, I still like this alot better than ANY other solo career by any other Genesis member.
You've got a piont there, but don't forget that Peter Gabriel and Phil Collins went for solo pop careers, Mike went for the same, leaving the lead vocals to others. That leaves Tony who probably didn't know exactly where to go and Streve made music for musicians - his sole embarrasement was "Cured". So Steve kind of stayed away from mainstream as the only Genesis member, keeping it first 70's style prog rock and then club gig instrumental. He kept his act small. That's the way I see it.
I don't understand how Hackett fans could criticize Cured. Musically, everything's there I think. (Is it the drum machine?) For me, Cured is just more of Steve's compositional brilliance. Just listen to Funny Feeling and Overnight Sleeper!!
The lack of strength that this performance has with regard to the originals versions in late 70's is too big. After Hackett left Genesis, he couldn't achieve the same atmosphere anymore (of course, if we talk about this song).
I dont personally see where Please Dont Touch would have fit on Wind and Wuthering. I dont think it would have worked on its own, and the flute wouldnt be there.
Although I do think Inside and Out should have been on the album instead of Wot Gorilla.
Spectral Mornings also fits nicely into that sound.
Have Steve ever played at Gran Rex and Bristol Theaters in Buenos Aires, Argentina on July, 2001? I think the concert was not at Coliseo theater. Regards.
Sorry folks, but that is one weak version of ...In that quiet earth. I have heard a LOT of Steve Hackett doing Genesis tunes live. None comes even close to that magic atmosphere of the originals from the 1977 tour (after which he left). If Steve left because Genesis wasn't good enough for him, fine - but where is his "better" material after he left? Cured? Gimme a break!!!
I don't like that sappy stuff either, but Phil Collins era Genesis is great as well for different reasons. Songs like Domino, Home By the Sea, and Tonight,Tonight,Tonight are essentially in the same style as alot of the Gabriel era stuff. I bet you didn't know that Banks and Rutherford where the primary writers throughout most of the Collins era. Collins really didn't contribute in the writing of their music (only the some instrumentation) until Invisible Touch, which was their 2nd last album.
I've heard a similar story, those two definitely didn't see eye to eye a lot of the time. I often wonder if that was what ultimately stopped SH from joining the reunion tours of late.
Banks was a genius in his own way, and took second to none in talent within the band, but he was a control freak, and I think it hurt the band. LIstening back to their 70's albums, it strikes me how Tony always takes the solo, and often doesn't allow anything to Hackett -- particularly on The Lamb. Does Hackett even have a lead on the first two sides? A little bit of Fly on a Windshield... and Chamber of 32 Doors. That's about it I think.
Yeah, I used to think that too, before I listened to Hackett's solo albums. Usually, he is just as restrained on his solo albums as he was with Genesis. While I do love Hackett's playing (especially his nylon-string work), it is my opinion that he held back way too much at times.
The story I always heard was that the final nail in the coffin, in terms of Steve leaving Genesis that they were rehearsing Please Don't Touch, with the idea that it was going to be Wind And Wuthering. Then Phil decided he couldn't "get behind it", so it was dropped.
Add in the fact that Wot Gorilla, which Steve has dismissed as a "doodle", was included, and I think you can see why he left. I think he felt his contributions were being passed over in favor of what he saw as inferior material
Steve is sounding a bit like Adrian Belew here imho. i appreciate the reimagining of the piece, but i much prefer the original drum track from Phil : )
wilecuyote 5 months ago
Sorry, I'm a huge, huge Hackett fan, but this is an utter racket.
The first dislike I've ever given him.
MrHistorian123 5 months ago
It's a much better Version then Genesis's Wind&Wuthering Version.
Genesisfan1989 6 months ago
the drummer didn't understand the original track.
82osammot 6 months ago
Love to have one of those Les Pauls with with Floyd Rose.
GulfoPersico 1 year ago
@GulfoPersico it´s not a les paul, it´s made by Hernandez or Fernandez or the like ( so his road manager told me )
jmorrell22 2 months ago
I guess what I don't like is that it seems like just about all the posts are stuff from when he was with Genesis...only parts really...I liked him when he was with Genesis...he needs to lose that part unless it's a song he wrote maybe.
clyde8her 1 year ago
@clyde8her he had a big input on this track put it along side please don't touch and the steppes these are the types of songs steve does best
pinkfloydrule27 1 year ago
Welcome to the Jeff Lorber 5, what a shame.
hambone9444 1 year ago
Steve is trying to sound like warren cuccurullo in this
skintrade 1 year ago
Ahhhhhhh how refreshing. Steve Hackett, our Pr0g guitar idol. Thanks for posting!
capth00k 1 year ago
guys this is a tough song to do and they experimented by changing up the feel; it was a risk and it didn't work, just cut them some slack.
MrJesseG123 1 year ago
I agree with the comments, three minute chords held down on the keyboard, waltz like drums playing, and slack bass. The keyboard player looks stoned out of his mind. Even though I am a big Hackett fan, I'm sorry to say this is the worst steve hackett video on youtube, I hope it was just the heat getting to them because this is just terrible. It's videos like this on youtube that make me wish I hadn't wake in the morning.
skintrade 1 year ago
@skintrade all you guys are outta your tits. hacketts fucking with the shit. hercules unchained!!! he rips ass all the way through it karate chops, if i was there i would have been screaming on top of my lungs in ecstacy
electronicmilkman 1 year ago 7
OMG!!!! c'est un massacre...That's a fuckin' joke...All the harmonies that I've heared on the studio version are....not here...WTF? My ears are crying and bleeding and...That's all for now.
Teuhma 1 year ago
Que monstruo....
Aberinkulas 1 year ago
Onde acho esse DVD?????????????
2202533 1 year ago
played at 78 rpm ??? Artistic licence eh ? still a great track
donnymart 1 year ago
What in the world is this waltz beat? Takes away from the song so much. Too bad.
ceazea 1 year ago
Mister Steve Hackett simply the best of Genesis member
antoniopinamarques 1 year ago
great Genesis SOng
Great Guitar Playing
I hope Steve will be in genesis again
Or Daryl joins them in Studio,too.
Mike is not soo good, and Genesis will do something new again :)
chinwildchicken 1 year ago
You gave birth to it, Steve - only fair you should be allowed to kill it dead!
timpovikings 1 year ago
I have to agree with you guys...this is easily the most slapdash, our-hearts-aren't-really-in-it versions of one of the great, classic Genesis instrumentals of all time. Living proof that even the greatest musicians can stumble and fall into the mud. The solos weren't bad--they hardly ever are--but this arrangement was pathetic.
oliasdoug 1 year ago
d r u g s
titanium9000 1 year ago
It is a waltz u tits. Saw this band twice last yr.The bass was as big and massive as any Genesis gig.Ive seen them many times too.
sweetarmadillo 2 years ago
what is THAT rendition all about??
georgeman2468 2 years ago
my uncle used to ate 7 heart attacks per day while watching this
awesome!
jebbbuz 2 years ago
nionionionionionionion
human20freedom 2 years ago
Blues With A Feeling is a great album!
LesPaulGoldTop21 2 years ago
remember Genesis doing this at birmingham on the mama tour omg it was fantastic and mikes bass pedals shook the foundations of the NEC unlike this shite , not ya best moment Steve !
entangled1 2 years ago
Entangled1...
Rutherfords' Taurus pedals "Took-us-all-down"...I so much agree with you.
mccormickbom 2 years ago
What a bad band. The drummer nearly makes it a waltz and the keyboardist plays one chord for nearly three minutes. A bad joke.
anonymusum 2 years ago 3
@anonymusum agreed. Compared to any of the Genesis live 1977 versions (bootlegs) this version is awful. The drummer doesn't have even remotely the skills of Phil and Chester, the keyboarder sounds like he as unable to get the chords right - the tempo is way too fast and what the heck is a soprano sax doing there? Makes it sound to artsy-jazzy as opposed to the powerful Genesis wall of sound with killer drumming. BTW: where is the second half of the music containing the 11th Earl motif on synth?
aihoschema 1 year ago
@aihoschema
True. But I heard SH playing concerts that were way better than this. Hard to understand.
anonymusum 1 year ago
@anonymusum Hmmm seriously Dude ... this is not easy at all to play!
GhostriderDuck 1 year ago
@GhostriderDuck
Yes, it´s not that easy, but for prof. musicians it should not be very difficult.
anonymusum 1 year ago
Love your playing Steve, but this is a total dog's breakfast. Stick to those beautiful melody lines that were your trademark.
gazzo45 2 years ago 2
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Sovietico88 2 years ago
cuantos churros se fumó este guey, esta rola no tiene nada =S
js100serch 2 years ago
I was relieved when the melody came back. Seemed like that took a long time. Really wish they went into the next part.
gene921 2 years ago
hmm...not very good steve..
GabrielsNob 2 years ago
Damn that sustainer, I want one!
Lovrowolf 2 years ago 3
MUCH too fast.. in this pace it too much tastes like a waltz..which never came to mind in genesis-versions.
zebonaut 2 years ago 3
a different version of genesis but
this song is alive in live with steve,
genisis didn't play rare good old songs..better version true in steve hackett 'live "the tokyo tapes" for exemple
davlaurent 2 years ago
Genesis dit it excellent during the invisible touch in 1986-87 , I miss Phil on this song even If Steve is great here
saga55 2 years ago
hmm genesis version on wind and wuthering much better.
proadam9 2 years ago 2
I LIKE STEVE AND THE KEYBOARDIST.
ozzierex 2 years ago
Thank you so much for sharing this - utterly fabulous!
73beetl 2 years ago
His guitar must be so out of tune after this song.
metalburger2 3 years ago
Anybody out there who can recommend the best Hackett concert DVD?
phillipians 3 years ago
Tokyo Tapes
deanernet 3 years ago
Budapest looks pretty awesome.
TheElusiveBirdMan 2 years ago
the drummer changed the "feel" of the song. I don't like it.
ahioud 3 years ago
To reply to bassidol, I actually think this version sounds closer to Camel than to KC... During the keyboard solo, I started to get that Camel-Rain Dances album groove... This is isn't your standard note-for-note recreation of Genesis, and although I think the guitar sound effects was a bit much, I still enjoyed it for what it was.
MarxNutz 3 years ago
If King Crimson did this song it would sound like this. Hackett solo has a different agenda from Genesis, his band tends toward a jazz-rock that tends toward cacophony at times. It's unfair, though, to compare a live performance to the studio creation in "Wind and Wuthering." I do think that his live version went on too long, and would have loved to have heard ". . . In that Quiet Earth" also.
bassidol 3 years ago
Oops, I meant the real end of "In That Quiet Earth, this version leaves it out.
bassidol 3 years ago
I've got to say, that is one train wreck of a version. I'm a big admirer of SH, and I'm convinced that he was the person, (not PG or Tony) who made Genesis something special, but to my ears, this is nonsense.
BevelBob 3 years ago 3
Agreed 100%. IMHO Steve's magic worked incredibly well with Tony's tasteful kayboards and Phil's unique drumming, not to forget Mike's bass lines and rhythm guitars.
Here Steve seems to go for something almost Zappa-esque. I also think that most of his Genesis solos performed by him post-Genesis sound too much "jazz fusion" and "artsy". Doesn't work for me. Perhaps we all have it wrong trying to point out one single "genius" band member. I think the secret is in the team work.
aihoschema 3 years ago
I disagree on the solo parts. I think that Genesis solos we're brilliant, melodic and very atmospheric. And while I disagree with the middle section of this song, which has a single chord for too long of a period, I still like this alot better than ANY other solo career by any other Genesis member.
Hyardacil 3 years ago
You've got a piont there, but don't forget that Peter Gabriel and Phil Collins went for solo pop careers, Mike went for the same, leaving the lead vocals to others. That leaves Tony who probably didn't know exactly where to go and Streve made music for musicians - his sole embarrasement was "Cured". So Steve kind of stayed away from mainstream as the only Genesis member, keeping it first 70's style prog rock and then club gig instrumental. He kept his act small. That's the way I see it.
aihoschema 3 years ago
He got a pretty big hit when he made the GTR album with Steve Howe.
TheElusiveBirdMan 2 years ago
I don't understand how Hackett fans could criticize Cured. Musically, everything's there I think. (Is it the drum machine?) For me, Cured is just more of Steve's compositional brilliance. Just listen to Funny Feeling and Overnight Sleeper!!
rdnzl23 2 years ago
My favorite Hackett album. Drum machine and all.
tarkusmjg 2 years ago
Ever heard PG1 till PG4 and Up? Ever heard A curious feeling from tony?
I agree that they all had their poppy sounding records in their solo carreers but they still have written some very good solo stuff.
santibanks 2 years ago
Hackett manage to do great albums after genesis, personally I preffer some hackett albums over some genesis ones.
"guitar noir" "defector" "voyage of the acolyte" "dark town" and I preffer hackett version of Los Endos over the original one.
PD: "Cured" was a mistake, It wont happend again.
martytejada 3 years ago
The lack of strength that this performance has with regard to the originals versions in late 70's is too big. After Hackett left Genesis, he couldn't achieve the same atmosphere anymore (of course, if we talk about this song).
salmacis81 3 years ago
I dont personally see where Please Dont Touch would have fit on Wind and Wuthering. I dont think it would have worked on its own, and the flute wouldnt be there.
Although I do think Inside and Out should have been on the album instead of Wot Gorilla.
Spectral Mornings also fits nicely into that sound.
StrayGator 3 years ago
Have Steve ever played at Gran Rex and Bristol Theaters in Buenos Aires, Argentina on July, 2001? I think the concert was not at Coliseo theater. Regards.
ADYGUERRA1962 3 years ago
Sorry folks, but that is one weak version of ...In that quiet earth. I have heard a LOT of Steve Hackett doing Genesis tunes live. None comes even close to that magic atmosphere of the originals from the 1977 tour (after which he left). If Steve left because Genesis wasn't good enough for him, fine - but where is his "better" material after he left? Cured? Gimme a break!!!
aihoschema 3 years ago 2
Finde diese Version jetzt auch nicht so toll.
schraxxi 3 years ago
don't blame tony for that,phil and mostly mike.phil just too limited to it,mike wanted to be the captain.
kharlamych 3 years ago
Steve Hackett is Genesis. Without him what did they become? Silly disneyland mickey mouse pop.
classic7890 3 years ago
God I love ignorant comments from non-musicians.
huts68 3 years ago 13
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Phil Collins, Tarzan and Brother Bear.
Pop rubbish from the guy who crashed and burned genesis. Nice try you u get a FAIL.
classic7890 3 years ago
I don't like that sappy stuff either, but Phil Collins era Genesis is great as well for different reasons. Songs like Domino, Home By the Sea, and Tonight,Tonight,Tonight are essentially in the same style as alot of the Gabriel era stuff. I bet you didn't know that Banks and Rutherford where the primary writers throughout most of the Collins era. Collins really didn't contribute in the writing of their music (only the some instrumentation) until Invisible Touch, which was their 2nd last album.
funk7000 3 years ago 2
@huts68 lol
sparkymachine 1 year ago
Shut up huts68. Do you play horrn? Suck my GDMN sax, pal. Don't say tha' shit again. They're musicians, and better than you in Argentina, crap.
thelamb66 10 months ago
Too bad Banks couldn't handle Hackett. i think Banks was intimidated,got with Rutherford and forced him out by vetoing his stuff. Just my opinion.
ssllsskk 3 years ago
I've heard a similar story, those two definitely didn't see eye to eye a lot of the time. I often wonder if that was what ultimately stopped SH from joining the reunion tours of late.
geraberl 3 years ago
Banks was a genius in his own way, and took second to none in talent within the band, but he was a control freak, and I think it hurt the band. LIstening back to their 70's albums, it strikes me how Tony always takes the solo, and often doesn't allow anything to Hackett -- particularly on The Lamb. Does Hackett even have a lead on the first two sides? A little bit of Fly on a Windshield... and Chamber of 32 Doors. That's about it I think.
Jhensy2001 3 years ago 2
Yeah, I used to think that too, before I listened to Hackett's solo albums. Usually, he is just as restrained on his solo albums as he was with Genesis. While I do love Hackett's playing (especially his nylon-string work), it is my opinion that he held back way too much at times.
morgoth195 3 years ago
The story I always heard was that the final nail in the coffin, in terms of Steve leaving Genesis that they were rehearsing Please Don't Touch, with the idea that it was going to be Wind And Wuthering. Then Phil decided he couldn't "get behind it", so it was dropped.
Add in the fact that Wot Gorilla, which Steve has dismissed as a "doodle", was included, and I think you can see why he left. I think he felt his contributions were being passed over in favor of what he saw as inferior material
Kohntarkosz 3 years ago
A real master of the guitar! both classic and electric!
koenenbw 3 years ago 2
ahh, the only way to hear "In That Quiet Earth" from the master himself. Thanks for the upload!
Tommygun1028 3 years ago
¡Increible! que solo, me pone la piel de gallo...
¿Hizo Fly on a Windshield? si lo tenes ¡SUBILO!
gracias
SpinettaGMR 3 years ago
only part of the top twenty for all time
firstbooob 3 years ago
no esta en el movement esto?
jvr2112 3 years ago
Al site te referis? creo que esta el audio solamente.
LIONGOLD10 3 years ago
@jvr2112
Dudes, relax, this is still some of the best music out there. They're playing out, jamming a bit, just go along for the ride...
pghitman 1 year ago