I am scared to death that Ron Paul might not win. I think he will, but if he doesn't, it won't be my fault. How do people honestly believe that we can spend our way out of debt? How can one believe in the idea of capitalism and also believe that the government is responsible for creating jobs? How can one say they support our constitution and also support our current foreign policy of undeclared/preemptive wars? Thomas Jefferson is running for president by the name of Dr. Ron Paul.
Holy sweet merciful FUCK!!! Kansas just deployed more soldiers to Afghanistan, and you know what their mission is? To promote agriculture and business in fucking Afghanistan!!! They want to spend our money and time teaching farmers to farm and people with no money to conduct business! What sheer BRILLIANCE!!!
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don't raise the debt ceiling? okay fine...face a revolution fallout like in Greece and have americans rebelling in the streets to threaten your "top one percent" controlling system and then let's see if you change your mind.
@elmolovescookies No. We wouldn't change our minds; everything you just listed is at worst a necessity and at best a blessing to the country right now.
RON PAUL IS GOING TO BE PROSECUTED BY UNITED STATES OF AMERICA! ITS UNCONSTITUTIONAL TO CALL AMERICAN PEOPLE INVADERS AND INITIATERS OF WARS.
RON PAUL SAID THE USA INVADES COUNTRIES AND STARTS WARS, WHICH GIVES USA A BAD REPUTATION AROUND THE WORLD , THEREFORE IT IS CONSIDERED A CRIME . A US CITIZEN WHO
WAS BORN IN USA CANT GO AGAINST GOVERNMENT POLICIES WHICH MIGHT TREATEN THE FUTURE
Ron Paul the only honest representation we have ever had running for the presidency. All you fucking neocon, liberal progressive assholes can go fuck yourslves this country is going to cause global anarchy because of your incompetance!
If you live near Chicago (Burnham) ,IL I would like to talk to you! I have too many friends that are idiots that would rather talk about the lastest viral video! My email is patriot0991@aol.com. I really look forward to talking with you guys/girls who care about our country!
In solidarity with the American people -- & all people -- I call on the current president, his surviving predecessors, Congress, and all U.S. & intl. media; on all who spoke/wrote yesterday to honor President Kennedy on the 50th anniversary of his inauguration: to speak/write now to honor & examine, for the benefit of the American people -- & all people -- his Executive Order 11110 & its fate. President Kennedy stood up for all of you. Now who of you will stand up for President Kennedy? Who?????
it seems so irrelevant anymore, even if Ron Paul was elected as president in 2012 the country is already broke, we are already bankrupt: morally, logically and financially and military with nothing short of total monetary collapse as the exit strategy. It makes little difference what the president does if the congress will not stop spending, once the people can no longer meet the tax burden that our current financial situation demands then country will grind to a halt.
Our elected officials will stop printing money when the International Monetary Fund decides demands a new reserve curreny; however, since Brazil, China, India, and Russia have already decided to resolve trade on the status of their own currencies the process is underway and we will eventually be bankrupt because no nation will buy our bonds. If you look at the GAO12/10 statement of who owns our bonds , in the top 10 are the 4 mentioned above. Our demise is fast approaching...get ready.
The Bearer of Light rules you all, yet, you have no inclination and you focus on stupid political crap. May you and your children suffer the wrath of your ignorance and stupidity. Its a shame abortion isnt mandatory for the collective. Maybe wed not be in this situation had abortion been mandatory for people with an IQ under 130. May you all be blessed with the death that is ignorance. Keep focusing on false politics; for it shall be your death and brings much happiness to those who know truth.
Don't be a duped patriot. Ron Paul is a fake. He believes the official story off 911. A peaceful revolution can only take place if the people understand 911.
@UNTC321 Dr. Paul is focused on the sad state of the monetary system and trying to at the very least make people aware of it. If he came out on the side of 911 truth he would be branded a kook and marginalized completely by the media. It's called picking your battles. The American public is so easily bamboozled I suspect the truth behind 911 will never see the light of day. Americans still believe the Warren commission.
@pretorious700 Why, it would cause many to look again at the 911 lie, nothing kooky there. Paul is a fake and all of his followers movement is built on a lie. or Paul is a coward. either way the country is over. Your leader says how out of control D.C. is but can't mention the biggest example. Paul will fail and so will the country. It is full of idiots and cowards. The truth of 911 is on you tube, it's not hidden.
The fact that we cannot pay our bills without borrowing is a crime, its called a ponzi scheme. I think a guy named Berny Madoff went to adult daycare for that.
Ron Paul is the only hope. By the time his ideas take hold in the form of todays future politicians it will be too late If he himself dosent get into office in 2012/
As someone who would like to support Ron Paul and his ideas, I find it hard to do when he lends creedence to people like Alex Jones by appearing on their shows. It gives me pause.
Please do not engage with him or his ilk in his conspiracy rhetoric and nonsense any further if you want my vote.
End the interest rate, we dont need a gold standard getting rid of the interest rate and making the fed reserve government owned instead of private is the solution. It will save our dollar and we dont have to go for a zionist owned gold standard. for more info watch "the secret of wizard of oz"
Americans are prostitutes owned by the Federal Reserve and the presidents are the FED SELECT pimps and managers. To betray you must first befriend. Eg Obama gained the trust of the masses, after his being SELECTED (Through FED money owning the media ) he broke every promise he made in the first 3 weeks. Wake up America the DemocratRepublic is one of the same - War monger governmental 911 inside jobbers. National security needs to go into effect and the president quarantined
@WorldSutra Holy sh!t, Sutra. You are the dumbest commenter I've ever encountered. And I read YouTube comments all the time. And YouTubers are the dumbest commenters in the whole world. You are the King of all idiots.
I have a better chance of banging megan fox then paul has of becoming president. I love how you ron paul trolls say that the nwo is preventing him from becoming president. LOL. You know what, good job NWO then. End the Fed? We need a gold stanard? Get rid of the DEA? LMFAO. Stay classy paultards. The only conspiracy is how big my cock is. 12 inches.
@ICantDecryptTheCode You probably think the Bill of Rights is some sort of antiquated literature too. This is why the states need to be freed from a centralized government. That way you can live your life as a libtard and I can live my life as a conservatard, and we can be polite to eachother as coexisting Americans.
And speaking of world policemen. Didn't they waste billions on that F35 and need more. It's so expensive and crappy, now even the US itself is buying F18's. What was the sense?
@achzdck Ron Paul can't change the structure. Only the states can. If the Government is bankrupt the states can take over without the Federal Government getting in the way. We must side with our state and support the constitution. The Federal Government only has what is explicitly laid out in the enumerated powers section. It can't even draft people constitutionally but we let it. During WWI the people stood up and said no but it wasn't enough. As long as the states are servants we suffer.
@Luigi84289 I am amazed someone marked your comment as spam, well said. No single person has the capacity to make a systematic change in the way the Federal Government continually violates it's mandate.
@anarchylogic They can't the only way to pay it off would be to remove every dollar from circulation and it still wouldn't be enough since they are all printed with interest by the FED. The FED has stolen all of our real wealth and has left us with abundant funny money that it creates out of thin air. That is why prices keep going up. When you have too much of one thing it becomes worthless. You don't pay for water in a store you can just drink because it is everywhere.
@KacelaJ They're probably paid off to make us keep screwing ourselves. That's why I don't watch TV. With the stranglehold the government has on the media all it's filled with are selfish assholes who want us to get fucked.
I love all these negative remarks about Ron. It really shows how freakin stupid you are. Its funny that in 30yrs of bullshit politicians can bring this country to kissing chinese ass and totally bankrupt what was once the strongest nation in the world! We can not take 2 more years of your so called messiah! His best interest lies in bringing the average American down to the point that we are willing to give up. But not all will give up! Alot of people will fight if forced!!
Trust me- Paul serves the banks. If we had stopped the tax-cuts for the 2% richest in the US, 85% of us would not be paying an annual check of 7000$ to them
If Ron Paul wins in office then he does the opposite we know he is serving the banks but if he dont then he serves the people but we all know they dont want him as president because he is for liberty he would just stay where he is and probably get killed and the media will say he had a heart attack thats the reality of it. who knows what gonna happen. It can b disinfo like ron paul is a mason dont trust him and let the government just destroy itself it will destroy us too how can we not care
see obama quoted that to win the election and now hes working for the foreign banks goes to show its rigged. He broke all his promises and his approval rating is down, now from this point on how can u still believe in the left right paradigm republicans and democrats dont abide by the constitution but ron paul does if he were to win he would b considered a terrorist bcuz of his radical views according to DHS fema the way they brainwash the police in training, RP= Patriot not terrorist.
Wish our Goverment would start taking care of it's own people..instead of sticking there noses in other countries bussiness..You don't see the leader of Japan coming over here and wanting to start a war just because our Healthcare system sucks!..But Hey if there is something happening in another country that america don't like..America is up in there face..That's Bullshit..I live in America and I'm tired of the shit that's happening in Washington.take care of us.leave other countries alone!
"Wish our Goverment would start taking care of it's own people..instead of sticking there noses in other countries bussiness"
The idea that govt should & would "take care of its people" is very naive. Govt & politics is about power so it naturally attracts power-hungry & greedy people (barring a rare person like Paul of course) & expectin such people to "take care" of anyone is very naive. Founders understood this & that's why they instituted a SMALL govt with nominal powers
Under national security the President and staff needs to be quarantined for war crimes and treason on America. If Congress is going to do anything at all do it right.
@TheIndoctriNATION bots? Haha... the bots are the ones who watch The commie/faux news networks... If you want to see BOTS go look at all of Obama supporters... now they do not have a mind of their own but rather all of Pauls supporters can see the constitutional reasons to support paul...
Damn the political innovators LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION.
Ya know, you're right. People who watch the black nobility tel lie vision are bots as well. Seems you guys are doing it while watching freemason paul here on FOX. lol Followers of men...
@NaturalGroundation Ain't it the damn truth!? Most Obama supporters don't even know why they support him and the shit Obama or any other former presidential candiate says doesn't even make sense! Ron Paul speaks the truth, which is why we can actually understand what he's saying!
If you have hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of credit card debt to pay off are you going to keep buying more shit on credit? NOOOOOOO!!!! We need to cancel the Fed's credit card NOW!
"I see the paulbots have been here acting in their role of thumbots. The guy is a mason, folks. Sorry."
So you base your opinion of him based on the fact that he's a mason rather than his political viewpoints, his Constitutional voting record OVER THIRTY YEARS & his consistent adherence to his principles ( watch?v=NDEgBWO54dA ) & cogency of arguments about individual liberty & sound economics? Seriously? Have you ever looked into his arguments?
Yep, looked into a lot of it. You might want to look somewhere other than where his handlers have put things up. He has voted some wacky ways, and against the people. PLUS, he's a mason. Period, if that doesn't tell you the complete truth about this controlled opposition puppet, nothing will. Have a nice day.
Yes, we're seeing ramifications. The system is collapsing. You still haven't explained why it's such a genius plan/benefit to stomp on the gas peddle.
>> You say wait to deal with it later, later when? When exactly
>> will people be 'prepared'?
Every day, someone (many) in America wakes up and start stock-piling food, and necessary goods... Thus, VERY EASY MATH HERE... More days = more people prepared.
With this argument, we can put off doing anything ad infinitum. If 'everyday' more people wake up, then 'everyday' we have a reason to wait more days. This will just go on forever and ever, without end.
As for people taking our paper for their goods, why would you knowingly offer someone something worthless for something of value? That's theft.
>> With this argument, we can put off doing anything ad infinitum
No... we can put it off until OPEC and the Chinese quit taking US dollars... At that point, there won't be any cheap TVs in the stores, and the gas stations will all be out of fuel... however, it'll be pretty goddamn clear at that point that it can't be put off ad infinitum... anyone who thinks it could go on FOREVER, is an idiot, but that's not a reason to try and crash it all today.
That isn't what I meant, and I'm pretty sure you know that. I was talking specifically about the argument you made, and how it didn't add up (pun intended).
I already stated that the end of this system is inevitable. All I disagree with you about, is any benefit to doing nothing to solve the problem, until we no longer have a choice.
>> All I disagree with you about, is any benefit to doing nothing to solve the problem
For what seems like the 90,000th time I've said it... The problem CAN NOT BE SOLVED. If we do what Ron Paul says, it will only end the ponzi scheme, crash, and spring into hyperinflation that much faster, and will cause OPEC and China to stop taking US dollars that much faster. So, please don't use loose talk about solving the problem... it's pure smoke & wind, buddy.
@UtubeMyAccountName So, you've just advocated crashing the economy as fast as possible to wake "EVERYBODY up, and all at once".... As if the REAL problem we face is that it's not crashing fast enough to wake everyone up fast enough... Yes, that's the REAL problem. Like come on.
@stefanbanda Yes, that is exactly what I'm saying. Let me reiterate, this is only ONE solution.
A different solution, and I feel a better one, would be to follow Ron Paul, and other free enterprise economists advice, and just do away with legal tender laws.
@UtubeMyAccountName I wasn't advocating doing nothing. I was advocating raising the debt ceiling, and buying Saudi oil for as long as those stupid assholes are willing to keep giving it to us in exchange for fiat paper.
Still you don't seem to realize, that we will not only be stealing from the Saudi's, but from our own selves. The more fiat dollars we print, the less the value. Not just the ones we give the Saudi, but the ones in our own pockets as well.
@UtubeMyAccountName It's not theft you ass hat. We OFFER them paper for oil, and they ACCEPT it... That's not theft IN ANY DEFINITION OF THE WORD. Seriously. Jesus Christ, that's OBVIOUS.
>> The more fiat dollars we print, the less the value.
Ok, you're not even reading.... It's going ZERO NO MATTER WHAT WE DO. We can do one or the other and they're still going to ZERO... So, we ought to ride this fiat shit until it dies.... no point in accelerating the death.
@stefanbanda It's theft because you KNOW the paper is worthless. People who do this here go to jail for it, and rightly so. It's called grifting or some such thing, aka theft.
What you're suggesting, is that it's okay for a society to engage in, what it defines itself, as a crime. Yes the Saudi are 'stupid' for taking paper for oil, but we have told them that the paper is worth something. Hell, our own people KILL each for this paper, for the same reason. They have been lied to.
@stefanbanda It's theft because you KNOW the paper is worthless. People who do this here go to jail for it, and rightly so. It's called grifting or some such thing, aka theft.
What you're suggesting, is that it's okay for a society to engage in, what it defines itself, as a crime. Yes the Saudi are 'stupid' for taking paper for oil, but we have told them that the paper is worth something. Hell, our own people KILL each for this paper, for the same reason. They have been lied to.
"we ought to ride this fiat shit until it dies.... no point in accelerating the death"
Way to go *facepalm*
Just to let you know, spending CAN be cut if all the unnecessary wars & socialism is ended or at least significantly reduced since interest on debt hasn't YET gotten big enough to eat all of the govt revenue.
As for "ride till it dies"; did you know what happened in Zimbabwe after their currency collapsed? May be it won't be that bad here, may be it'll be worse.
@lomocan I don't think you grasp the magnitude of the 1+ QUADRILLION otc interest swaps derivative fraud, combined with the precious metals price manipulation, & the GLD & SLV 100:1 leveraging. combined with the REAL US debt, and the REAL inflation rate, and the REAL CPI, and the REAL unemployment stats, combined with the unfunded liabilities. America's debt is NOT managable. The ship is sinking, pal, and there ain't nothing the Paul family can do to stop it. Salute the flag, pal.
"anyone who thinks it could go on FOREVER, is an idiot, but that's not a reason to try and crash it all today"
You've some gross misconception that Paul wants to crash the system today itself, which is not the case. As I've said, interest on debt is still at levels which CAN be managed even if we don't raise debt-ceiling & go for massive cuts across the spectrum by voting in people that're willing to cut all the wars & socialism.
if this man doesnt get into office in 2012 (IF he runs) then this country deserves to go down the shitter and deserves all its going to get, might sound harsh, but the amount of ignorance in USA is shocking.
As the American Declaration of Independence in 1776 expressed it, natural law taught that the people were “endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights” and could alter or abolish government “destructive” of those rights.
Change the government? It seems to me that the duty to rebel is much more understandable than that right to rebel, because the right to rebellion ruins the order of power, whereas the duty to rebel goes beyond and breaks it.
We must rescind the fraudulent "debt" to the banksters! They never provided any VALUE, (they put some digits into a computer) and now we should pay interest for that?
Thomas Jefferson had it right; the state should never have been given the power to borrow in the name of the people.
Debt ceiling equals pink elephant, there is no such thing.
So long as the state CAN borrow, they WILL borrow. The only 'ceiling' will be the unwillingness of entities to lend them money; and so long as legal tender laws, and central banks exist, there will always be a willing entity.
If we agree that hyperinflation is INEVITABLE, and CAN NOT be stopped, then there's really no such thing as "making it worse". I think the goal, as sick as it sounds, ought to be to keep the music playing as long as they possibly can.
Under Regan it got raised and raised and raised. That's not being a conservative. In the end they always give in to peer pressure. I give credit to Ron Paul for being the same person always.
May the day dawn that we grow up to support the loving and righteous instead of adoring the self indulging infantile, demanding, taking, killing, ruling without compassion or responsibility, hiding behind gods, bombs and the innocent we feed of, preaching hatred among our supposedly terrorist fellow man, that our sins be forgiven for we know we need forgiveness the most to vote another day for the glory of deadly dominion and our next banquet of golden grenades & lost souls
In every crazy fictional movie where the government is involved the government is called to fix it, pay for it or organize it. This is the wrong role of government.
I'm a fan of Dr. Paul, but let's play a mental game together... Money = Debt, and Debt = Money. check. If you refuse to raise the debt limit, that is akin to refusing to raise the money supply. If you don't raise the money supply, we go in to a monetary deflation. If we go in to a steep monetary deflation, with a fiat dollar, our debt-to-GDP will SKYROCKET. If the debt-toGDP skyrockets, foreigners will lose faith in dollars and bail. If they bail, we get hyperinflation. Prove me wrong.
@stefanbanda but see how i see it, foreigners already have lost faith in the dollar, China wants to grow their gold supply by 5000 tonnes or something. also Russia and China aren't even intertrading through the dollar anymore. i don't know if that proves you wrong but it sure makes a difference in my opinion!
@garrethdavis I never said pumping out more dollars would be able to juggle the problem forever. It's GOING TO CRASH. It's already too late. NOTHING can be done to fix it. So, keeping that in mind, Tim Geithner is completely right... If they don't vote to raise the debt ceiling America will default immediately, and catastrophe will begin NOW.
@stefanbanda but as you say, it is going to crash. so why make it worse by letting more debt build up? the money will never be payed back it's impossible. what's the point in just making the problem even worse. it's all about making people drown in so much debt they become helpless and think that the state is there to help them out, when in fact all that is happening is they their rights are being taken away along with power and wealth being centralized and consolidated.it's happening everywhere
@garrethdavis Yes, but if they cap the debt ceiling and send us into a rapid deflation that sling-shots into a hyperinflation, that's not going to help the people either. Nothing is going to help the people, so I suppose the goal ought to be to keep the music playing as long as possible. We all agree and admit that there aren't enough chairs for everyone when the music stops... I don't think that's the best case you can make to demand the music be SHUT OFF NOW. Plan "A" is no better than "B".
@stefanbanda well, the way i see it is if the debt continues to rise, when the US ultimately does default, it will be worse because there is actually a greater verocity is the rise of deflation and thus more extreme inflation, so i feel that like, why keep making the problem worse? you know? that's a great metaphor. the people are just brain washed and sheep like. fortunately many are waking up, many thanks to Mr.Paul i'd say. i fear that things are going to get crazy sooner rather than later
@garrethdavis hahaha.... You just said "more extreme inflation"... As if anything can be more extreme than the dollar going to ZERO... which it's gonna do.
@garrethdavis You know, in a big way, Ron Paul is just like some guy who showed up during the final 20 minutes of the Bernie Madoff ponzi scheme, and wanted to pretend like there was still time to reduce Bernie's spending, and pay everyone back responsibly, without anyone losing their money. It simply doesn't work like that... Showing up in the last 1 year of a 40 year long crime does very little to prevent the ramifications of the first 39 years of the crime... even if you're 100% right.
@lwglwglwg Yes, and since everybody ignored him for the first 29 years, there's sure as hell no good reason to go on assuming that it isn't already too late. It is too late, and in spite of Dr. Paul's long fought efforts, it's all coming down... and there's nothing he can do to stop it.
I'm glad he didn't stop, 'cos I (luckily) only got to hear his wisdom during the 2007 campaign. Yes, the demise of the Dollar seems inevitable. But at least Ron Paul will make more people aware of the situation and get prepared. Bought gold yet? : )
@stefanbanda He's been talking about this for the last 30 years. UTube has his old videos as well. Just because u werent listening doesnt mean he wasnt talking.
@jasonnissan1 dude... seriously.... seriously... I'm sitting here saying here saying that it's all going to collapse and there's nothing Ron Paul can do to stop it. Your genius answer to that is that I'm a main stream media nut job. What your reply didn't include was an explanation of why I'm wrong and it's not already too late.
@garrethdavis Let's me put it in more simple terms.... Of all the problems that Zimbabwe is facing right now... Massive debts repayable in Zimbabwe dollars is simply not one of those problems. When the dust settles, the debt will still be payable in fiat dollars, but the fiat dollars will be less valuable than toilet paper... Sure, they're both made form paper, but only one is honestly effective for rectal hygiene.
@stefanbanda right i don't get what you mean there at all haha. the only i know is that the dollar is unbelievably worthless. hence why prescious metals are rising in value so much despite efforts to manipulate them.
@stefanbanda you aren't wrong, but pumping out infinity more dollars won't be able to juggle the problem forever, and the more funny money you have in circulation when it finally does fall the worse its going to be. ron paul wants to deal with these problems in a real way, instead of praying to the financial juggling gods.
@UtubeMyAccountName One could argue that the "responsible thing to do" is give people as much time as possible to prepare. There is no value to anyone except the elite to speed it up.
And as for "shame on me"... seriously. kiss my ass. I did none of this.
@stefanbanda That wasn't in reference to anything you've done, but what you suggest be done.
Our fathers didn't know when they allowed the establishment of a debt based monetary system, that it would lead to the situation we find ourselves in today. Shame on them for not using their own minds, and just thoughtlessly accepting state lies.
You however, are clearly aware of the ramifications of such a system, and yet still you advocate its continuation. What else could I say to this?
@stefanbanda You are not responsible for the debt amassed by our fathers, but neither are our children, our fathers didn't know any better, we do.
How does one 'prepare' themselves for the news that they are going to die, unless they change their ways? How does it help to put off taking the necessary action to stop the bleeding?
If you have a terminal illness (which is what this monetary system is), and it remains untreated, it's only going to get worse as time goes on. There is no conceivable benefit to holding off treatment. There is no way to 'prepare' yourself. You simply have to accept what's what, and do the work.
@UtubeMyAccountName Bad analogy. This is NOT a terminal illness. The benefit to holding off collapse, for the 4th time now, is giving people more time to prepare (buy food, gold, guns, whatever), so yes, there are things people can do to prepare. As the fiat money is headed to ZERO, you can't argue that this new phony money will have to be re-paid by your grandchildren. Nobody will repay it, because it will go to ZERO.... Making it go to ZERO faster is not a benefit to anyone.
@stefanbanda Well, that's why I try to avoid them (although I still like this one), and platitudes as well.
However, we're already seeing the ramifications of letting this system go on for as long as it has. Rising unemployment, a lower standard of living, working longer hours for more years, the breakdown of civil order, etc., etc., etc. These problems will only continue to grow worse as time goes on.
You say wait to deal with it later, later when? When exactly will people be 'prepared'?
@UtubeMyAccountName Let me put it in a way that's even easier to understand. OPEC sells oil that comes (mostly) from Saudi Arabia.... So, the Saudis are trading oil for paper. We get the oil. They get the paper... Since the paper is going to be worthless soon, you can see how this is a good deal for us. The Saudis should be the ones to end it all, not us... So long as they're willing to trade oil for paper, we should take it. After it all goes, they'll have oil and we'll still have paper
@stefanbanda We're putting it off right now and no one is preparing. If we keep putting it off, people will think that the day will never come because "Oh, they've been talking about that for years now, it's not coming"! Then that's when everyone is caught with their pants down and left starving in the street. Procrastination is not a virtue.
Kip: "Captain, we have an emergency"
Zap Branigan: "Hmmmm.... come back when it's a Catastrophe"
@eatthatmeatball So, since, as of today, the Saudis are willing to take paper for oil, and we use that oil to grow ourselves food, we should try and put an end to it as quickly as possible, and begin starving to death as fast as we can get on it.... Crash it NOW NOW NOW!!!! We can't let this run it's course... CRASH it TODAY! fuck the people who are slowly buying gold, silver, food, seeds, supplies. crash it NOW! We hate getting all that free oil for paper notes. f*** sakes.
I am scared to death that Ron Paul might not win. I think he will, but if he doesn't, it won't be my fault. How do people honestly believe that we can spend our way out of debt? How can one believe in the idea of capitalism and also believe that the government is responsible for creating jobs? How can one say they support our constitution and also support our current foreign policy of undeclared/preemptive wars? Thomas Jefferson is running for president by the name of Dr. Ron Paul.
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Holy sweet merciful FUCK!!! Kansas just deployed more soldiers to Afghanistan, and you know what their mission is? To promote agriculture and business in fucking Afghanistan!!! They want to spend our money and time teaching farmers to farm and people with no money to conduct business! What sheer BRILLIANCE!!!
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tshngreen 7 months ago
don't raise the debt ceiling? okay fine...face a revolution fallout like in Greece and have americans rebelling in the streets to threaten your "top one percent" controlling system and then let's see if you change your mind.
elmolovescookies 7 months ago
@elmolovescookies No. We wouldn't change our minds; everything you just listed is at worst a necessity and at best a blessing to the country right now.
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RON PAUL IS GOING TO BE PROSECUTED BY UNITED STATES OF AMERICA! ITS UNCONSTITUTIONAL TO CALL AMERICAN PEOPLE INVADERS AND INITIATERS OF WARS.
RON PAUL SAID THE USA INVADES COUNTRIES AND STARTS WARS, WHICH GIVES USA A BAD REPUTATION AROUND THE WORLD , THEREFORE IT IS CONSIDERED A CRIME . A US CITIZEN WHO
WAS BORN IN USA CANT GO AGAINST GOVERNMENT POLICIES WHICH MIGHT TREATEN THE FUTURE
OF THE COUNTRYS SECURITY .
RON PAUL WILL BE PROSECUTED BY US GOVERNMENT!
democratsaresmart 8 months ago
Ron Paul the only honest representation we have ever had running for the presidency. All you fucking neocon, liberal progressive assholes can go fuck yourslves this country is going to cause global anarchy because of your incompetance!
joe035 10 months ago
If you live near Chicago (Burnham) ,IL I would like to talk to you! I have too many friends that are idiots that would rather talk about the lastest viral video! My email is patriot0991@aol.com. I really look forward to talking with you guys/girls who care about our country!
ThePatriot0991 1 year ago
THE DAMAGE IS ALREADY DONE,NO ONE CAN STOP THE COMING STORM. ALL WE CAN DO IS GET READY!
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In solidarity with the American people -- & all people -- I call on the current president, his surviving predecessors, Congress, and all U.S. & intl. media; on all who spoke/wrote yesterday to honor President Kennedy on the 50th anniversary of his inauguration: to speak/write now to honor & examine, for the benefit of the American people -- & all people -- his Executive Order 11110 & its fate. President Kennedy stood up for all of you. Now who of you will stand up for President Kennedy? Who?????
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theTRuthbrand2 1 year ago
it seems so irrelevant anymore, even if Ron Paul was elected as president in 2012 the country is already broke, we are already bankrupt: morally, logically and financially and military with nothing short of total monetary collapse as the exit strategy. It makes little difference what the president does if the congress will not stop spending, once the people can no longer meet the tax burden that our current financial situation demands then country will grind to a halt.
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TRuthbrand 1 year ago
Why doesnt Ron Paul tell his supports to quit paying taxes and quit using Federal Reserve Notes?
mustaffa1611 1 year ago
@mustaffa1611 He fears jail.
joe035 10 months ago
why ron paul? because we know what he will do before someone asks
gonadcancervictim 1 year ago 3
Our elected officials will stop printing money when the International Monetary Fund decides demands a new reserve curreny; however, since Brazil, China, India, and Russia have already decided to resolve trade on the status of their own currencies the process is underway and we will eventually be bankrupt because no nation will buy our bonds. If you look at the GAO12/10 statement of who owns our bonds , in the top 10 are the 4 mentioned above. Our demise is fast approaching...get ready.
AprilBess 1 year ago
Ron Paul for President 12
Ron Paul for President 12
Ron Paul for President 12
Ron Paul for President 12
OmegaGamerHead 1 year ago
The Bearer of Light rules you all, yet, you have no inclination and you focus on stupid political crap. May you and your children suffer the wrath of your ignorance and stupidity. Its a shame abortion isnt mandatory for the collective. Maybe wed not be in this situation had abortion been mandatory for people with an IQ under 130. May you all be blessed with the death that is ignorance. Keep focusing on false politics; for it shall be your death and brings much happiness to those who know truth.
thedoctorisin24380 1 year ago
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Don't be a duped patriot. Ron Paul is a fake. He believes the official story off 911. A peaceful revolution can only take place if the people understand 911.
UNTC321 1 year ago
@UNTC321 Dr. Paul is focused on the sad state of the monetary system and trying to at the very least make people aware of it. If he came out on the side of 911 truth he would be branded a kook and marginalized completely by the media. It's called picking your battles. The American public is so easily bamboozled I suspect the truth behind 911 will never see the light of day. Americans still believe the Warren commission.
pretorious700 1 year ago
@pretorious700 Why, it would cause many to look again at the 911 lie, nothing kooky there. Paul is a fake and all of his followers movement is built on a lie. or Paul is a coward. either way the country is over. Your leader says how out of control D.C. is but can't mention the biggest example. Paul will fail and so will the country. It is full of idiots and cowards. The truth of 911 is on you tube, it's not hidden.
UNTC321 1 year ago
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@UNTC321 You are assuming most Americans want to know the truth about 911.
pretorious700 1 year ago
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10 to 1 they will raise the national debt!
LadyBuggin777 1 year ago
beast mode is 0:00-4:58
GreenMachine0990 1 year ago
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Ron Paul 2012!
throwingshit 1 year ago
The fact that we cannot pay our bills without borrowing is a crime, its called a ponzi scheme. I think a guy named Berny Madoff went to adult daycare for that.
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0BS4U 1 year ago
Ron Paul is the only hope. By the time his ideas take hold in the form of todays future politicians it will be too late If he himself dosent get into office in 2012/
thomasmoonman 1 year ago 14
@thomasmoonman
too late for what. It's never too late to be right.
soccom8341576 1 year ago 2
I pray the new members look to Mr. Paul for guidance
comcam 1 year ago
why does it get cut off?
obSCENEoneTW0 1 year ago
Debating corruption isn't going to legimitize it.
mogilny89p 1 year ago
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As someone who would like to support Ron Paul and his ideas, I find it hard to do when he lends creedence to people like Alex Jones by appearing on their shows. It gives me pause.
Please do not engage with him or his ilk in his conspiracy rhetoric and nonsense any further if you want my vote.
79merkus 1 year ago
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79merkus 1 year ago
Bring our troops home! I agree with Ron, we shouldn't be policing the world.
bhxinfected 1 year ago
Want to end the madness then claim 10 and don't pay your taxes. No need for violence except if the IRSS comes to your door.
drifterted 1 year ago
COMPLETE INSANITY ."....IS HOW THAT WOULD HAVE FINISHED.
13AJJONES 1 year ago
End the interest rate, we dont need a gold standard getting rid of the interest rate and making the fed reserve government owned instead of private is the solution. It will save our dollar and we dont have to go for a zionist owned gold standard. for more info watch "the secret of wizard of oz"
InfoSeeker93 1 year ago
Fox News should give Dr. Paul a job as often as they have them on these days.
Nexus974 1 year ago
there cash cow !
cut it ?
not a frickin chance !
there drunk with our money !
tax and spend ! tax and spend ! tax and spend !
waterchildtera 1 year ago
Ronnie is payed by the Beck brothers, to let poor people burn in hell
MsTommyknocker 1 year ago
@MsTommyknocker Obama and company are wall street puppets.
drifterted 1 year ago
Yes!!!
jomo37075 1 year ago
RON PAUL FOR PRESIDENT IN 2012! nuff said!
1dabirdman 1 year ago 2
Americans are prostitutes owned by the Federal Reserve and the presidents are the FED SELECT pimps and managers. To betray you must first befriend. Eg Obama gained the trust of the masses, after his being SELECTED (Through FED money owning the media ) he broke every promise he made in the first 3 weeks. Wake up America the DemocratRepublic is one of the same - War monger governmental 911 inside jobbers. National security needs to go into effect and the president quarantined
411American 1 year ago 3
Ron Paul...when push comes to shove, you are a Socialist, but too dumb to know it (or too content in your stupid political game.)
You are one dumb fvck.
WorldSutra 1 year ago
@WorldSutra YOU ARE A POS TROLL, who is a leftwing nutjob!
1dabirdman 1 year ago
@WorldSutra
I don't see how being anti-Socialist makes you Socialist. Isn't that a contradiction?
LtSurge659 1 year ago
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@LtSurge659 he's just another youtube idiot.
BlackThought415 1 year ago
@WorldSutra Holy sh!t, Sutra. You are the dumbest commenter I've ever encountered. And I read YouTube comments all the time. And YouTubers are the dumbest commenters in the whole world. You are the King of all idiots.
OswaldCornelius 1 year ago
@WorldSutra wow.. what a stupid bitch.. you should be euthanized..
jonjon1189 1 year ago
@WorldSutra
Wow... get an education.
youngbono18 1 year ago
STOP SPENDING!
nakor667 1 year ago
I have a better chance of banging megan fox then paul has of becoming president. I love how you ron paul trolls say that the nwo is preventing him from becoming president. LOL. You know what, good job NWO then. End the Fed? We need a gold stanard? Get rid of the DEA? LMFAO. Stay classy paultards. The only conspiracy is how big my cock is. 12 inches.
ICantDecryptTheCode 1 year ago
@ICantDecryptTheCode You probably think the Bill of Rights is some sort of antiquated literature too. This is why the states need to be freed from a centralized government. That way you can live your life as a libtard and I can live my life as a conservatard, and we can be polite to eachother as coexisting Americans.
drifterted 1 year ago
And speaking of world policemen. Didn't they waste billions on that F35 and need more. It's so expensive and crappy, now even the US itself is buying F18's. What was the sense?
sunRsaturn 1 year ago
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@achzdck Ron Paul can't change the structure. Only the states can. If the Government is bankrupt the states can take over without the Federal Government getting in the way. We must side with our state and support the constitution. The Federal Government only has what is explicitly laid out in the enumerated powers section. It can't even draft people constitutionally but we let it. During WWI the people stood up and said no but it wasn't enough. As long as the states are servants we suffer.
Luigi84289 1 year ago 3
@Luigi84289 I am amazed someone marked your comment as spam, well said. No single person has the capacity to make a systematic change in the way the Federal Government continually violates it's mandate.
Ron Paul would be the first to agree with you.
UtubeMyAccountName 1 year ago
They are going to raise the debt limit and say we're going to stop after this? That's full of crap.
aragornsargonath 1 year ago
If only the politicos could be held personally liable for the debts they create. make them pay it.
anarchylogic 1 year ago
@anarchylogic now there's a novel idea.....imply there is actually responsibility to be had. :D
aragornsargonath 1 year ago
@anarchylogic They can't the only way to pay it off would be to remove every dollar from circulation and it still wouldn't be enough since they are all printed with interest by the FED. The FED has stolen all of our real wealth and has left us with abundant funny money that it creates out of thin air. That is why prices keep going up. When you have too much of one thing it becomes worthless. You don't pay for water in a store you can just drink because it is everywhere.
Luigi84289 1 year ago
The negative comments here are all from big-goverment shills - don't fall for their misdirections.
Congressman Dr. Ron Paul knows what the problem is - and he knows the cure.
KacelaJ 1 year ago 3
@KacelaJ They're probably paid off to make us keep screwing ourselves. That's why I don't watch TV. With the stranglehold the government has on the media all it's filled with are selfish assholes who want us to get fucked.
Luigi84289 1 year ago
1 moron watched this video! :)
MrAdamseye 1 year ago
I love all these negative remarks about Ron. It really shows how freakin stupid you are. Its funny that in 30yrs of bullshit politicians can bring this country to kissing chinese ass and totally bankrupt what was once the strongest nation in the world! We can not take 2 more years of your so called messiah! His best interest lies in bringing the average American down to the point that we are willing to give up. But not all will give up! Alot of people will fight if forced!!
66132145 1 year ago
If I put £1 in a jar for every time Ron Paul is consistant with what he says I may be able to bail out the world.
Tzimnewman3 1 year ago 3
Trust me- Paul serves the banks. If we had stopped the tax-cuts for the 2% richest in the US, 85% of us would not be paying an annual check of 7000$ to them
MsTommyknocker 1 year ago
@MsTommyknocker No Austrian serves the banks, fuck your double speak.
BIackOp 1 year ago 8
Fancy naming your son after Ayn Rand!
MsTommyknocker 1 year ago
If Ron Paul wins in office then he does the opposite we know he is serving the banks but if he dont then he serves the people but we all know they dont want him as president because he is for liberty he would just stay where he is and probably get killed and the media will say he had a heart attack thats the reality of it. who knows what gonna happen. It can b disinfo like ron paul is a mason dont trust him and let the government just destroy itself it will destroy us too how can we not care
1xDannyHey1x 1 year ago
small government is the answer. not depending on big brother to take care of us
1xDannyHey1x 1 year ago
see obama quoted that to win the election and now hes working for the foreign banks goes to show its rigged. He broke all his promises and his approval rating is down, now from this point on how can u still believe in the left right paradigm republicans and democrats dont abide by the constitution but ron paul does if he were to win he would b considered a terrorist bcuz of his radical views according to DHS fema the way they brainwash the police in training, RP= Patriot not terrorist.
1xDannyHey1x 1 year ago 2
Wish our Goverment would start taking care of it's own people..instead of sticking there noses in other countries bussiness..You don't see the leader of Japan coming over here and wanting to start a war just because our Healthcare system sucks!..But Hey if there is something happening in another country that america don't like..America is up in there face..That's Bullshit..I live in America and I'm tired of the shit that's happening in Washington.take care of us.leave other countries alone!
Midnightryder7 1 year ago
@Midnightryder7
"Wish our Goverment would start taking care of it's own people..instead of sticking there noses in other countries bussiness"
The idea that govt should & would "take care of its people" is very naive. Govt & politics is about power so it naturally attracts power-hungry & greedy people (barring a rare person like Paul of course) & expectin such people to "take care" of anyone is very naive. Founders understood this & that's why they instituted a SMALL govt with nominal powers
lomocan 1 year ago
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evanWith7 1 year ago
Under national security the President and staff needs to be quarantined for war crimes and treason on America. If Congress is going to do anything at all do it right.
411American 1 year ago
Rand Paul needs to take better advice from his dad!
roseagain2 1 year ago 70
RU PAUL '12.
ERROLCUSTERFLYNN4EVR 1 year ago
I see the paulbots have been here acting in their role of thumbots. The guy is a mason, folks. Sorry.
TheIndoctriNATION 1 year ago
@TheIndoctriNATION bots? Haha... the bots are the ones who watch The commie/faux news networks... If you want to see BOTS go look at all of Obama supporters... now they do not have a mind of their own but rather all of Pauls supporters can see the constitutional reasons to support paul...
Damn the political innovators LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION.
NaturalGroundation 1 year ago 29
@NaturalGroundation
Ya know, you're right. People who watch the black nobility tel lie vision are bots as well. Seems you guys are doing it while watching freemason paul here on FOX. lol Followers of men...
TheIndoctriNATION 1 year ago
@NaturalGroundation
Aren't those HOPE bumper stickers awesome though? Makes it incredibly easy to spot a sucker! Mindless sheep all walking straight into the slaughter.
brown55061 1 year ago
@NaturalGroundation Ain't it the damn truth!? Most Obama supporters don't even know why they support him and the shit Obama or any other former presidential candiate says doesn't even make sense! Ron Paul speaks the truth, which is why we can actually understand what he's saying!
If you have hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of credit card debt to pay off are you going to keep buying more shit on credit? NOOOOOOO!!!! We need to cancel the Fed's credit card NOW!
jonjon1189 1 year ago
@TheIndoctriNATION
"I see the paulbots have been here acting in their role of thumbots. The guy is a mason, folks. Sorry."
So you base your opinion of him based on the fact that he's a mason rather than his political viewpoints, his Constitutional voting record OVER THIRTY YEARS & his consistent adherence to his principles ( watch?v=NDEgBWO54dA ) & cogency of arguments about individual liberty & sound economics? Seriously? Have you ever looked into his arguments?
lomocan 1 year ago
@lomocan
Yep, looked into a lot of it. You might want to look somewhere other than where his handlers have put things up. He has voted some wacky ways, and against the people. PLUS, he's a mason. Period, if that doesn't tell you the complete truth about this controlled opposition puppet, nothing will. Have a nice day.
TheIndoctriNATION 1 year ago
Yes, we're seeing ramifications. The system is collapsing. You still haven't explained why it's such a genius plan/benefit to stomp on the gas peddle.
>> You say wait to deal with it later, later when? When exactly
>> will people be 'prepared'?
Every day, someone (many) in America wakes up and start stock-piling food, and necessary goods... Thus, VERY EASY MATH HERE... More days = more people prepared.
stefanbanda 1 year ago
@stefanbanda No, that math won't work.
With this argument, we can put off doing anything ad infinitum. If 'everyday' more people wake up, then 'everyday' we have a reason to wait more days. This will just go on forever and ever, without end.
As for people taking our paper for their goods, why would you knowingly offer someone something worthless for something of value? That's theft.
UtubeMyAccountName 1 year ago
@UtubeMyAccountName
>> With this argument, we can put off doing anything ad infinitum
No... we can put it off until OPEC and the Chinese quit taking US dollars... At that point, there won't be any cheap TVs in the stores, and the gas stations will all be out of fuel... however, it'll be pretty goddamn clear at that point that it can't be put off ad infinitum... anyone who thinks it could go on FOREVER, is an idiot, but that's not a reason to try and crash it all today.
stefanbanda 1 year ago
@stefanbanda
That isn't what I meant, and I'm pretty sure you know that. I was talking specifically about the argument you made, and how it didn't add up (pun intended).
I already stated that the end of this system is inevitable. All I disagree with you about, is any benefit to doing nothing to solve the problem, until we no longer have a choice.
UtubeMyAccountName 1 year ago
@UtubeMyAccountName
>> All I disagree with you about, is any benefit to doing nothing to solve the problem
For what seems like the 90,000th time I've said it... The problem CAN NOT BE SOLVED. If we do what Ron Paul says, it will only end the ponzi scheme, crash, and spring into hyperinflation that much faster, and will cause OPEC and China to stop taking US dollars that much faster. So, please don't use loose talk about solving the problem... it's pure smoke & wind, buddy.
stefanbanda 1 year ago
@stefanbanda Ah, I see now. You don't understand.
That IS a solution. Not the only one of course, and arguably not the best, but it would serve to wake EVERYBODY up, and all at once.
UtubeMyAccountName 1 year ago
@UtubeMyAccountName So, you've just advocated crashing the economy as fast as possible to wake "EVERYBODY up, and all at once".... As if the REAL problem we face is that it's not crashing fast enough to wake everyone up fast enough... Yes, that's the REAL problem. Like come on.
stefanbanda 1 year ago
@stefanbanda Yes, that is exactly what I'm saying. Let me reiterate, this is only ONE solution.
A different solution, and I feel a better one, would be to follow Ron Paul, and other free enterprise economists advice, and just do away with legal tender laws.
The only wrong solution, is to do nothing.
UtubeMyAccountName 1 year ago
@UtubeMyAccountName I wasn't advocating doing nothing. I was advocating raising the debt ceiling, and buying Saudi oil for as long as those stupid assholes are willing to keep giving it to us in exchange for fiat paper.
stefanbanda 1 year ago
@stefanbanda So, you advocate theft.
Still you don't seem to realize, that we will not only be stealing from the Saudi's, but from our own selves. The more fiat dollars we print, the less the value. Not just the ones we give the Saudi, but the ones in our own pockets as well.
UtubeMyAccountName 1 year ago
@UtubeMyAccountName It's not theft you ass hat. We OFFER them paper for oil, and they ACCEPT it... That's not theft IN ANY DEFINITION OF THE WORD. Seriously. Jesus Christ, that's OBVIOUS.
>> The more fiat dollars we print, the less the value.
Ok, you're not even reading.... It's going ZERO NO MATTER WHAT WE DO. We can do one or the other and they're still going to ZERO... So, we ought to ride this fiat shit until it dies.... no point in accelerating the death.
stefanbanda 1 year ago
@stefanbanda It's theft because you KNOW the paper is worthless. People who do this here go to jail for it, and rightly so. It's called grifting or some such thing, aka theft.
What you're suggesting, is that it's okay for a society to engage in, what it defines itself, as a crime. Yes the Saudi are 'stupid' for taking paper for oil, but we have told them that the paper is worth something. Hell, our own people KILL each for this paper, for the same reason. They have been lied to.
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@stefanbanda It's theft because you KNOW the paper is worthless. People who do this here go to jail for it, and rightly so. It's called grifting or some such thing, aka theft.
What you're suggesting, is that it's okay for a society to engage in, what it defines itself, as a crime. Yes the Saudi are 'stupid' for taking paper for oil, but we have told them that the paper is worth something. Hell, our own people KILL each for this paper, for the same reason. They have been lied to.
UtubeMyAccountName 1 year ago
@stefanbanda
"we ought to ride this fiat shit until it dies.... no point in accelerating the death"
Way to go *facepalm*
Just to let you know, spending CAN be cut if all the unnecessary wars & socialism is ended or at least significantly reduced since interest on debt hasn't YET gotten big enough to eat all of the govt revenue.
As for "ride till it dies"; did you know what happened in Zimbabwe after their currency collapsed? May be it won't be that bad here, may be it'll be worse.
lomocan 1 year ago
@lomocan I don't think you grasp the magnitude of the 1+ QUADRILLION otc interest swaps derivative fraud, combined with the precious metals price manipulation, & the GLD & SLV 100:1 leveraging. combined with the REAL US debt, and the REAL inflation rate, and the REAL CPI, and the REAL unemployment stats, combined with the unfunded liabilities. America's debt is NOT managable. The ship is sinking, pal, and there ain't nothing the Paul family can do to stop it. Salute the flag, pal.
stefanbanda 1 year ago
@stefanbanda LOL, that's about the most naive shit i've ever heard.
hotfudgemoney 1 year ago
@stefanbanda
"anyone who thinks it could go on FOREVER, is an idiot, but that's not a reason to try and crash it all today"
You've some gross misconception that Paul wants to crash the system today itself, which is not the case. As I've said, interest on debt is still at levels which CAN be managed even if we don't raise debt-ceiling & go for massive cuts across the spectrum by voting in people that're willing to cut all the wars & socialism.
lomocan 1 year ago
@lomocan I think he wants to crash the system. But if he gets his way, and the US defaults, you're gonna see a run on the dollar.
stefanbanda 1 year ago
RU PAUL '12.
ERROLCUSTERFLYNN4EVR 1 year ago
if this man doesnt get into office in 2012 (IF he runs) then this country deserves to go down the shitter and deserves all its going to get, might sound harsh, but the amount of ignorance in USA is shocking.
Hypster123 1 year ago
Didn't want that rant about the military to make it out there now did we?
wood9670 1 year ago
I love Ron Paul. 100%
truefictions 1 year ago 2
RU PAUL IN 2012.......
ERROLCUSTERFLYNN4EVR 1 year ago
What ceiling?
As the American Declaration of Independence in 1776 expressed it, natural law taught that the people were “endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights” and could alter or abolish government “destructive” of those rights.
Change the government? It seems to me that the duty to rebel is much more understandable than that right to rebel, because the right to rebellion ruins the order of power, whereas the duty to rebel goes beyond and breaks it.
dwoods828 1 year ago 2
dont raise the debt ceiling and we will default! ...default then. really I cannot wait.
fold up your evil shop and let America and Americans get back home to reality.
We don't need a Federal overlord. never did
uturniaphobic 1 year ago 3
We must rescind the fraudulent "debt" to the banksters! They never provided any VALUE, (they put some digits into a computer) and now we should pay interest for that?
joygarner 1 year ago
If America is "TRULY" the world police then why don't we invade/rescue a country like Burma? (i guess if theirs no oil theirs no point?)
TommyTurntables1 1 year ago
"How will you vote for it?"
Lol really?
eragon2121 1 year ago
It must end here, raising the debt ceiling again is a slap in the face to the American people!
RedOnyxProductions 1 year ago
Ron Paul knows what he is talking about.Please America vote for Ron Paul for president in 2012.
solkacorot 1 year ago
Thomas Jefferson had it right; the state should never have been given the power to borrow in the name of the people.
Debt ceiling equals pink elephant, there is no such thing.
So long as the state CAN borrow, they WILL borrow. The only 'ceiling' will be the unwillingness of entities to lend them money; and so long as legal tender laws, and central banks exist, there will always be a willing entity.
UtubeMyAccountName 1 year ago
If we agree that hyperinflation is INEVITABLE, and CAN NOT be stopped, then there's really no such thing as "making it worse". I think the goal, as sick as it sounds, ought to be to keep the music playing as long as they possibly can.
stefanbanda 1 year ago
@stefanbanda
hyperinflation is not inevitable, to default is inevitable, hyperinflation is second prize in their game.
europa 1 year ago
Under Regan it got raised and raised and raised. That's not being a conservative. In the end they always give in to peer pressure. I give credit to Ron Paul for being the same person always.
lowellriggsiam 1 year ago
May the day dawn that we grow up to support the loving and righteous instead of adoring the self indulging infantile, demanding, taking, killing, ruling without compassion or responsibility, hiding behind gods, bombs and the innocent we feed of, preaching hatred among our supposedly terrorist fellow man, that our sins be forgiven for we know we need forgiveness the most to vote another day for the glory of deadly dominion and our next banquet of golden grenades & lost souls
HanEunJa 1 year ago
Down with the national debt!
VisionsOfTheNobody 1 year ago
Let the record reflect who voted to raise the debt.. We need to know who must go at the next election.
GunClingingPalin 1 year ago 4
In every crazy fictional movie where the government is involved the government is called to fix it, pay for it or organize it. This is the wrong role of government.
I guess that's why they call it fiction.
davincij15 1 year ago
I'm a fan of Dr. Paul, but let's play a mental game together... Money = Debt, and Debt = Money. check. If you refuse to raise the debt limit, that is akin to refusing to raise the money supply. If you don't raise the money supply, we go in to a monetary deflation. If we go in to a steep monetary deflation, with a fiat dollar, our debt-to-GDP will SKYROCKET. If the debt-toGDP skyrockets, foreigners will lose faith in dollars and bail. If they bail, we get hyperinflation. Prove me wrong.
stefanbanda 1 year ago
@stefanbanda but see how i see it, foreigners already have lost faith in the dollar, China wants to grow their gold supply by 5000 tonnes or something. also Russia and China aren't even intertrading through the dollar anymore. i don't know if that proves you wrong but it sure makes a difference in my opinion!
garrethdavis 1 year ago
@garrethdavis I never said pumping out more dollars would be able to juggle the problem forever. It's GOING TO CRASH. It's already too late. NOTHING can be done to fix it. So, keeping that in mind, Tim Geithner is completely right... If they don't vote to raise the debt ceiling America will default immediately, and catastrophe will begin NOW.
stefanbanda 1 year ago
@stefanbanda but as you say, it is going to crash. so why make it worse by letting more debt build up? the money will never be payed back it's impossible. what's the point in just making the problem even worse. it's all about making people drown in so much debt they become helpless and think that the state is there to help them out, when in fact all that is happening is they their rights are being taken away along with power and wealth being centralized and consolidated.it's happening everywhere
garrethdavis 1 year ago
@garrethdavis Yes, but if they cap the debt ceiling and send us into a rapid deflation that sling-shots into a hyperinflation, that's not going to help the people either. Nothing is going to help the people, so I suppose the goal ought to be to keep the music playing as long as possible. We all agree and admit that there aren't enough chairs for everyone when the music stops... I don't think that's the best case you can make to demand the music be SHUT OFF NOW. Plan "A" is no better than "B".
stefanbanda 1 year ago
@stefanbanda well, the way i see it is if the debt continues to rise, when the US ultimately does default, it will be worse because there is actually a greater verocity is the rise of deflation and thus more extreme inflation, so i feel that like, why keep making the problem worse? you know? that's a great metaphor. the people are just brain washed and sheep like. fortunately many are waking up, many thanks to Mr.Paul i'd say. i fear that things are going to get crazy sooner rather than later
garrethdavis 1 year ago
@garrethdavis hahaha.... You just said "more extreme inflation"... As if anything can be more extreme than the dollar going to ZERO... which it's gonna do.
stefanbanda 1 year ago
@stefanbanda haha yeah good point, but you know what i mean. same with the euro. both fiat currencies. good old quantitative easing
garrethdavis 1 year ago
@garrethdavis You know, in a big way, Ron Paul is just like some guy who showed up during the final 20 minutes of the Bernie Madoff ponzi scheme, and wanted to pretend like there was still time to reduce Bernie's spending, and pay everyone back responsibly, without anyone losing their money. It simply doesn't work like that... Showing up in the last 1 year of a 40 year long crime does very little to prevent the ramifications of the first 39 years of the crime... even if you're 100% right.
stefanbanda 1 year ago
@stefanbanda well, it's better than nothing? isn't it?
garrethdavis 1 year ago
@stefanbanda
Ron Paul has been preaching the same message for the past THIRTY years.
lwglwglwg 1 year ago 4
@lwglwglwg Yes, and since everybody ignored him for the first 29 years, there's sure as hell no good reason to go on assuming that it isn't already too late. It is too late, and in spite of Dr. Paul's long fought efforts, it's all coming down... and there's nothing he can do to stop it.
stefanbanda 1 year ago
@stefanbanda
I'm glad he didn't stop, 'cos I (luckily) only got to hear his wisdom during the 2007 campaign. Yes, the demise of the Dollar seems inevitable. But at least Ron Paul will make more people aware of the situation and get prepared. Bought gold yet? : )
lwglwglwg 1 year ago
@lwglwglwg No doubt that Ron Paul is a brilliant man who'd been truth-telling a very long time... Hopefully more people start listening.
>> Bought gold yet?
Silver is the new gold. ;-)
stefanbanda 1 year ago
@stefanbanda He's been talking about this for the last 30 years. UTube has his old videos as well. Just because u werent listening doesnt mean he wasnt talking.
sparshparimoo 1 year ago
@stefanbanda Just showed up! He has been around for a long time....You are a prime example of Main stream media nut jobs.
jasonnissan1 1 year ago
@jasonnissan1 dude... seriously.... seriously... I'm sitting here saying here saying that it's all going to collapse and there's nothing Ron Paul can do to stop it. Your genius answer to that is that I'm a main stream media nut job. What your reply didn't include was an explanation of why I'm wrong and it's not already too late.
stefanbanda 1 year ago
@garrethdavis Let's me put it in more simple terms.... Of all the problems that Zimbabwe is facing right now... Massive debts repayable in Zimbabwe dollars is simply not one of those problems. When the dust settles, the debt will still be payable in fiat dollars, but the fiat dollars will be less valuable than toilet paper... Sure, they're both made form paper, but only one is honestly effective for rectal hygiene.
stefanbanda 1 year ago
@stefanbanda right i don't get what you mean there at all haha. the only i know is that the dollar is unbelievably worthless. hence why prescious metals are rising in value so much despite efforts to manipulate them.
garrethdavis 1 year ago
@stefanbanda you aren't wrong, but pumping out infinity more dollars won't be able to juggle the problem forever, and the more funny money you have in circulation when it finally does fall the worse its going to be. ron paul wants to deal with these problems in a real way, instead of praying to the financial juggling gods.
cyberpsygen7 1 year ago
@stefanbanda "Money = Debt" This is the problem right there.
It is not a question of right and wrong, but of self-sustainable. Such a system must end eventually, it is inevitable.
UtubeMyAccountName 1 year ago
@UtubeMyAccountName Just because it's inevitable doesn't mean we need to speed the process up any.
stefanbanda 1 year ago
@stefanbanda You are right, it isn't necessary to speed up the process. It just the responsible thing to do.
Our fathers and grandfathers created this mess (great grandfathers for you youngsters), and passed the problem on to us. Shame on THEM.
You now suggest that we pass the problem on to our own children and grandchildren and great grandchildren, etc. Shame on YOU.
UtubeMyAccountName 1 year ago
@UtubeMyAccountName One could argue that the "responsible thing to do" is give people as much time as possible to prepare. There is no value to anyone except the elite to speed it up.
And as for "shame on me"... seriously. kiss my ass. I did none of this.
stefanbanda 1 year ago
@stefanbanda That wasn't in reference to anything you've done, but what you suggest be done.
Our fathers didn't know when they allowed the establishment of a debt based monetary system, that it would lead to the situation we find ourselves in today. Shame on them for not using their own minds, and just thoughtlessly accepting state lies.
You however, are clearly aware of the ramifications of such a system, and yet still you advocate its continuation. What else could I say to this?
UtubeMyAccountName 1 year ago
@stefanbanda You are not responsible for the debt amassed by our fathers, but neither are our children, our fathers didn't know any better, we do.
How does one 'prepare' themselves for the news that they are going to die, unless they change their ways? How does it help to put off taking the necessary action to stop the bleeding?
UtubeMyAccountName 1 year ago
@UtubeMyAccountName How does it help to not put it off? Putting it off gives more people more time to wake up and prepare.
stefanbanda 1 year ago
@stefanbanda Analogy time, sorry.
If you have a terminal illness (which is what this monetary system is), and it remains untreated, it's only going to get worse as time goes on. There is no conceivable benefit to holding off treatment. There is no way to 'prepare' yourself. You simply have to accept what's what, and do the work.
UtubeMyAccountName 1 year ago
@UtubeMyAccountName Bad analogy. This is NOT a terminal illness. The benefit to holding off collapse, for the 4th time now, is giving people more time to prepare (buy food, gold, guns, whatever), so yes, there are things people can do to prepare. As the fiat money is headed to ZERO, you can't argue that this new phony money will have to be re-paid by your grandchildren. Nobody will repay it, because it will go to ZERO.... Making it go to ZERO faster is not a benefit to anyone.
stefanbanda 1 year ago
@stefanbanda Well, that's why I try to avoid them (although I still like this one), and platitudes as well.
However, we're already seeing the ramifications of letting this system go on for as long as it has. Rising unemployment, a lower standard of living, working longer hours for more years, the breakdown of civil order, etc., etc., etc. These problems will only continue to grow worse as time goes on.
You say wait to deal with it later, later when? When exactly will people be 'prepared'?
UtubeMyAccountName 1 year ago
@UtubeMyAccountName Let me put it in a way that's even easier to understand. OPEC sells oil that comes (mostly) from Saudi Arabia.... So, the Saudis are trading oil for paper. We get the oil. They get the paper... Since the paper is going to be worthless soon, you can see how this is a good deal for us. The Saudis should be the ones to end it all, not us... So long as they're willing to trade oil for paper, we should take it. After it all goes, they'll have oil and we'll still have paper
stefanbanda 1 year ago
@stefanbanda We're putting it off right now and no one is preparing. If we keep putting it off, people will think that the day will never come because "Oh, they've been talking about that for years now, it's not coming"! Then that's when everyone is caught with their pants down and left starving in the street. Procrastination is not a virtue.
Kip: "Captain, we have an emergency"
Zap Branigan: "Hmmmm.... come back when it's a Catastrophe"
Futurama anyone? I love that line. XD
eatthatmeatball 1 year ago
@eatthatmeatball So, since, as of today, the Saudis are willing to take paper for oil, and we use that oil to grow ourselves food, we should try and put an end to it as quickly as possible, and begin starving to death as fast as we can get on it.... Crash it NOW NOW NOW!!!! We can't let this run it's course... CRASH it TODAY! fuck the people who are slowly buying gold, silver, food, seeds, supplies. crash it NOW! We hate getting all that free oil for paper notes. f*** sakes.
stefanbanda 1 year ago