@segano1 Given the proximity of the landmasses I find it unlikely that the traffic flowed only in one direction. And it is well documented that the Irish raided the British coast around the time of the end of Rome. The economy in Ireland was highly propped up by slave trade at the time (hence the legend of St Patrick)
@segano1 Like I said, I only care about what s true. I think it untenable to claim Gaelic began in Scotland and spread to Ireland. There s no evidence of that. The literary medieval texts in both Scotland and Ireland suggest the opposite is true. Trust in more recent Historians and Archaelogists than Wylie. He was of his time. Why would it be a problem for you if there had been an Irish invasion. Is it an emotive thing? The history of the whole world is invasion and counter invasion
@segano1 I dont necesarily accept that gaelic is just a linguistic group. Languages throughout history tend to be created by specific ethnic groups. WHt should Gaelic be different. Why would the Leabhar Gabhala name them as a specific people? The Milesians. The Gaels. Same thing. Also I read some of wyklies stuff he s clearly anticatholic. And as guilty of romantiscism and embellishment as any Irish nationalist in the 1800s.
@pondlife14. I m more interested in transcending culture these days truth be told. I also studied psychology and there s a theory that to hold onto ethnocultural identity too strongly represents a fragmentary sense of self. I think ultimatly it may be an unhealthy way for a person to define themselves, since it almost absolves them of the need to achieve things in their own life. So maybe it s ok to celebrate culture without fighting over it the way humans have for millenia
@pondlife14. Though to be fair, I think our relationship with the EU has been alot more positive than the old relationship with Britain when they ruled us
@segano.just found some sources on Wylie. Rabid anti catholic. he can hardly be said to be writing from a cold scientific viewpoint. Of course he was going to minimise any Irish influence in the history of Scotland
@Andulsi And can you provide proof of Wylie being anti-Irish? I've looked far and wide for a source that claims or suggests this, having read about half of his work so far, I've yet to see any anti-Irish or even anti-Catholic views on his book "A history of the Scottish nation".
Plus if it is not reliable and/or he was anti-Irish, then way did the Vatican go to such lengths to ban the book, what was it about that book that had to be kept hidden?
@segano. I suspect your take on world history is somewhat confused because of your obvious hatred of catholicism. Personally, I dont discriminate. I hate all religions equally
@segano. Also to suggest Ireland is a weak vassal state is daft. Who is still under Westminsters rule. Sure, we' re in trouble now. Mostly because the vision of the likes of James Connolly was betrayed (in my opinion). He was born in Glasgow by the way... Do you know Scottish and Welsh Nationalists were cheering for Ireland on the sidelines during our War of Independence?
@Andulsi Ireland was told by Merkel on how to vote on the Lisbon Treaty. After the Irish vote rejecting it, 16 months later what happened, Ireland was subjugated to German will and told how to vaote. Ireland should take a leaf out of the UK situation we, are not a vassel country, is not in our DNA. Look at how the Scots stood up to the mighty Obama and the House of Representative regarding the Lockerbie bomber, no capitulation.
@Andulsi Hello Andulsi , the point you make is correct we are under rule from Westminster, with a collection of MP’s from all 4 countries of the Union. The UK is governed by political parties not nationalist parties. We are the only non vassal country in Europe. Ireland should take some lessons from the UK as Ireland is a vassal state of Europe or should I say Merkel’s Eurozone. (with her lapdog Sarkozy)
@segano. why do you think Dr Wylie's book 'history of the Scottish Nation' is definitive? It can hardly be said to be unbiased. Nationalism creates strange blind sights. I' m only interested in what s true. To suggest the Gaels were in Scotland first is just daft. Now here the overwhelming evidence both archaeological, linguistic and literary is against that idea.
@segano."Ceannas Ghàidheal do Chlainn Cholla, còir fhògradh," (The Headship of the Gael to the family of Colla, it is right to proclaim it), giving MacDonald's genealogy back to Colla Uais. Ironically, I also have O hEanna ancestors. An irish Sept of the Airgialla which is also linked to Colla Uais
@segano. To claim Viking ancestry is as daft as suggesting that all Scots are of Irish descent. Scythians were never Vikings either. I studied ancient history and archaeology
on my own background, I becae interested in possible origins of McDonnels. So I did look up the Scottish one. Clan Donald. They claim descent to Colla Uais (an Irish King) as well as Conn o a hundred battles (another Irish King. Of couse there s also Norse background to clan Donald.
@segano. I m messing with you. Of course there are differences between Scotland and Ireland. Though there linguistic and cultural similarities with the highlands and islands. Also, its a glasgow newspaper recently suggested, based on DNA testing, that both Irish and Scots need to look to Iberia for their roots. But to claim Scythian ancestry whilst denying Irish is weird (its an Irish legend). And sure, there was a norse presence (Gael-Gall).
@Andulsi By the way, the name 'Scot' being from 'Scythian' origin, does not suggest that the Scots originally came from Scythia, just that the word Scot is derived from the same word and not a Roman Latin word like many Irish claim.
@segano. I don' t really want to latch onto Scotland. I do get annoyed at the suggestion that all Irish culture is stolen from Scotkland. Bur cosider this, ther are McDonnells in my family tree. They could be Scottish (clan Donald) Irish sept from Fermanagh or another Irish sept from Thomond. Even the names are similar. In the gaelic form its identical. So like all Nations Scotland has different "founding" ethnicities. Pict, Gael, Angle, Briton etc...
@Andulsi Once again, you claim Scottish people were started by different people like Pict, Briton, Angle and Gaels, yet one of these identities are near enough the same as the another, Pict were just the Northern Britons, the Britons were just the southern Picts.
Another identity you claim is separate is the 'Gael' how can that be when the term was linguistic only? That means anybody who spoke a Goidelic tongue was considered a Gael back then regardless of where they hailed from.
@Andulsi Con't...As for the Angles? They only got as far as Edinburgh before they were beaten back by the Caledonian Picts (the real early Scots) at the The 'Battle of Dun Nechtain' or Battle of Nechtansmere (Scottish Gáidhlig: Blàr Dhùn Neachdain)
So the Angles contribution was extremely small and made no real significant contribution overall to the Scots as a collective group.
Plus the research on the 'OGAP4' code is Pictish and found all over Scotland, even in the Hebrides and Strathclyde.
@pondlife14. Also, don' t mention the British empire to me like it' s a good thing. With my background, I take a particulary jaundiced view of any type of imperialism. As for bailouts etc... . The treaty of 1921 ensured that Ireland would remain enslaved to British Capitalist forces. The vision of people like James Connolly completely betrayed, though our politicians stll pay him lip service
@pondlife14.One of the reasons Brehon law endured in Ireland so long after the Normans first came is that it was a much better though out and advanced system than what they used in Britain. Not perfect, but certainly more egalitarian
@pondlife14. Of course you could argue the Clan system was antiquated, but having amazing similarites to the old Irish Brehon system, it was actually a fairer system AT THE TIME than medieval common law or Feudal law. As such it could well have evolved into brilliant legal system. for a start
@pondlife14. Royals having Scottish Estates? Well would you not rather see those tracts of land in the hands of the people and designated as National Parks o some such rather than in the hands of an antiquated institution
@pondlife14. Centre of power is London not Edinburgh. And the Lords of The Iles are supposed to be the Chiefs of Clan Donald. In fact the whole Highland Clan system was destruyed. I don t see Lowland Scots or Gaelic as the official languages of Britain.
@segano1. Incidentally, put Ireland down all you like but at least we have 26 counties of an independant Republic. Scotland is still a vassal state. Sure,you have your own Parliament. But the English stil rule you. The Royals still hold huge estates in Scotland. The Prince of Wales now holds the Title of Lord of the Isles.
@Andulsi So a vassal state somehow not Scots have more rights than the English withy the current make up of the Union.Be careful when you make such flippant comments. I can easily say Ireland is a vassal state of the UK and the EU as you need our jobs (I know hundreds of Irish working in Scotland-not so independent then!!) as well as our generosity with bail outs to keep your economy afloat
@Andulsi Scotland and England formed the most successful team in world history creating the British Empire owning 1/4 of the world. According to the last poll most Scots like the English and vice versa. Last 3 prime ministers Scottish , the Queen mother Scottish, the Queen half Scottish So what’s the problem with estates in Scotland or the title Lord of the Isles Prince Charles has a Scottish Parent.
@Andulsi I already replied to this comment but the Queen Mother was Scottish, the Queen is half Scottish half german, so what the problem with Prince Charles having the title Lord of the Isles, or the royals having Scottish estates as they are also Scottish after all! Oh the last 3 prime ministers Scottish/ Scottish roots so so much for vassel state rubbish. Tghe British are more of a nation tham you realise.
@Andulsi I already replied to this comment but the Queen Mother was Scottish, born near Dundee, the Queen is half Scottish half german, so what the problem with Prince Charles having the title Lord of the Isles, or the royals having Scottish estates as they are also Scottish after all! Oh the last 3 prime ministers were Scottish / Scottish roots so much for vassel state rubbish. The British are more of a nation than you realise.
@Segano.They laughed when I told them some people were trying to argue the other way around. Told me that yes, one or two Unionist Academics tried to argue the other way around, but respected historians don' t take them seriously
@Segano. That' s all nonsense. I' m just back from a trip to Edinburgh. Spoke to a SCOTTISH historian in Edinburgh Castle who confirmed that DalRiada/Scots were indeed originally from Ireland. NOT an Irish nationalist. NOT a revisionist. But a respected authoriy on Scotish history in Einburgh itself.
But that is not to say (as suggested here) tha our tire culure is madey upey 19th century romantiscism. Simply not true. And if you want the real authentithing, check the Sean Nos (The Old Way). What' s with the anti Irish sentiment here? Understand it from Unionists, they always hated any expression of culture that differentiated the Island from Britain, so obviously they belittle it. Not sure about the others though.
You people have no idea about Irish Culture. I' m reading terrible ill informed crap here. Check Sean Nos singing, dance and storytelling as our truest expression of our culture. Very ancient. More so tthan the Uillean pipes or any of it. And nobod is giving us the evdence that Scots/ Dalriada was nativeScottish. Scots historians themselves will tell you those people came from Ireland. There was indeed cross pollination ofmusic from Ireland toScotlnd, particularly Donegal.
@40markava. I wouldn' t waste time on Mr Calengela. He' s a knucke dragging secterian pro british unionist. That' s why it rankles him that the Irish once had the upper hand in early medieval times. Check his profile, he has some enlightened ideas about black people too, the bigotted shit
Unfortunately the Irish are forced to leave their nation but that has to do with an oppressive occupiers robbing and raping! This forced emigration has spread Irish influence all over the world and will out live forced imperialism!
@calengela You contradict yourself, Yes the Catholics did suffer but as an American I would have to disagree with you about Ireland being "useless good for fuck nation" America would not be what it is today if it was not for Ireland! Starting with helping building the souths agriculture, railroad construction. The civil war was won and politics in American changed for ever.
@40markava That's Catholic revisionist made up bullshit, it's the Catholics that suffered, not the SScots, the Scots religion was Presbyterianism, the English was Anglicanism and the Irish had Catholicism.
Stop romantisising history to make the Irish as good as the Scots, the creation of the modern world can be attributed to Scotland, where as Ireland is a useless good for fuck all nation that's history mainly consists of a place to escape from rather than go to, with worst case of Paedophilia.
@40markava There was no melting of cultures, Irish revisionist myth makers like Grattan W.H. Flood and Henry Sarks works sold every where in Ireland and were bought and taught widespread by Plastic Paddies in the States.
They used Scottish culture as a way to give Ireland a kind of pedigree and history that it never had.
That is fact.
Catholic revisionism was the worst thing to happen to Ireland, they left the UK to be Rome's slave and are now bankrupted to fuck as an EU run shit hole.
Watching you tow sptit back and forward is crazy. GmtC1979 that last comment is just so wrong in so many levels. Its clear you get your pride from a 19th century Gratton Flood image of what Ireland is. No offence but a person who gets THAT worked up with his nationalism has mental problems. That comment is directed at all the tit-for-tat comments.
@GmtC1979 The best Ireland can get, as they don't want to ressurrect the true Irish culture out of embarrassment, is Gold seeking, green tights wearing, flute playing, gnome looking Leprechauns.
I see that our migrant Scots (open to question) historical revisionists are contaminating this page also with their modern myths and legends all of which have been dealt with on other sites. They really need to get over themselves!
@irishhistoryman Very true, if you go on to other Irish culture & history pages the same users are spreading their moronic myths which have been rubbished by Archaeological, Antropological & historical fact, but they will do anything to push their lies.
Some people have nothing else in their lives, sad but true.
@steandar Even if Scotland became independent, the UK would still remain btw, the constitution and new name would simply be changed from "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and N.Ireland" and be changed to "The United Kingdom of Scotland, England and N.Ireland".
Scottish independence would only take Scotland out of the 'British state' name along with England, and the "United Kingdom" would remain and become the "United Kingdoms" < note the S at the end, as the monarch is Scotland's as well.
@steandar And the English have even less to do with them as the English didn't even exist until 927AD, the Germanic tribes hadn't come into Britannia, what's now England until after the Roman empire died out.
They came in and saw the Roman remains and thought they were built by giants ffs.
And what the Irish wore was a lot more like a fuckin dress than what anyone else wore back then you tit, the brat and Lieanne looked like a long plain yellow dress.
@steandar ,Con't... plus even if it was true, you admit then that the Scots had 1100 years before the Irish, (first mention of them in Ireland is 1206, and is generally thought that the Anglo-Normans Introduced them to Ireland precisely 30 years after conquering Ireland) as not only does one source say they were played in Scotland here as far back as 450AD, but another states it goes back to 100AD, it could possibly be even earlier of course.
@steandar ROFL! Ok first off you plastic, there's no proof that the Romans gave the pipes to Scotland, especially when you consider that the Romans failed to conquer Scotland despite centuries of on and off effort, it's merely a theory, not saying it isn't true either but to say it's true is just as inaccurate/accurate as saying it is true...Con't...
@EntropicMisanthropic These are all facts you daft Plastic Paddie Yank cunt, yea! Don't think I don't know you're a fuckin Yankee, no wonder you hide your channel, but I can tell because of how you type.
You're the ''niggers'', you're being controlled by one (Barrack Obama), and before you come back raising the race card and cry "FOWL", you only have to look at you're own comment.
National Irish dress died hundreds of years ago. It's never been resurrected. If we did so, it would be cloaks covering hides! National dress for Irish pipers is Scottish. Hibernian dress is a myth created by Starck, English COs and Scottish manufactures.
Regarding the business of full dress, it's here that we find the one item, which is Irish, the Brat of ancient Ireland or cloak of Irish Guards and Irish Fusiliers. The cloak and caubeen are about the extent of it, the cloak being far older.
@TheGesb79 'Dál Riata' was a small insignificant piece of what's now the Hebrides of Scotland's rightful land, it was a mere 1/4 the size of all of Caledonian Pictish (early Scots) territory, it took massive heavy defeats in the time of Domnall and was completely destroyed at the 'battle of Degsastan' which wiped them back off the map forever, it was then subject to the Caledonian Picts (early Scots) who rightly regained it back as the 'Kingdom of Alba' - Pictish root word.
@TheGesb79 Irish culture is a complete rip off of Scottish culture.
Scots = Caledonian Picts of ancient Scotland
Irish = Celt Gael invaders from Iberia (Modern day Spain)
Celts = Made up modern mid 18th century term from an English linguist, the term was later hi-jacked by Irish to link itself with the Scots in order to invent myth to link Scottish culture as Irish too - which is absolute rubbish of course.
Scottish land and population pre-dates Ireland's by at least 4000 years.
Scots =Caledonian Picts, proved by modern genetic research based on the OGAP4 haplotype code.
Irish = Celt Gael invaders from Iberia (Modern Spain)
Proved by Modern genetic science and archeological evidence.
"Scotti" was a Latinised variation of the ancient Greek "Skoto" (Darkland) it was changed to 'Pirate', 'Raider' & 'Predator' that Romans described the Caledonian Picts of Scotland.
What an idiotic looking prat! He's probably some dumb typical ignorant stupid Yankee plastic paddie pretending to be Irish while looking like he's pretending to be Scottish, Yankee intellect and ignorance never ceases to amuse. There's nothing Irish in this, it's all just pure Scottish. Irish republicans started hi-jacking Scottish identity in the early C19th after the emergence of the Celt romantism myths. True Irish identity is Flutes and Harps with yellow long dress like Lieann.
@TheGesb79 I actually believe that the Gaelic Celts were the aboriginals of Central Europe. The Basques and the Picts are similarly obscure ancient Western European aboriginals. The Basques have survived as an ethnic group - and their language has a grammatical structure similar to Gaelic. The evidence is that the Picts also had a similar grammatical structure. I think that these were all similar ethnic groups. Who could know?
@thecrusades2 You are quite ignorant. The Galicia region in Spain is where you should go and find out the truth. In fact I'll help you: look up Susanna Seivane. Some of her vids are here on youtube! Amadan!
@thecrusades2 You talk a good rap, boyo but now it begins to show. i am thinking you are a wee bit orange. It was FYI, about Scotland's Independence for those Scottish clansmen who died on Culloden moor. There were both Protestants and Catholics - Irish and Scots and a few others, who died on that day. They were fighting your curiously Hanoverian "british crown government", which is a purely english invention. Ask those Highlanders who suffered the Clearances whether or not they were Gaelic!
@devinediety The Scots of today still descend largely from their true ancient ancestors, the Caledonian Picts.
As proved by the 'OGAP4' which was found all over Scotland, even in Argyll. What the Plastic Paddies and those brainwashed by 100 years of Catholic propaganda say is a pure myth, a myth that has been destroyed by modern genetic science.
The Scots true history is Caledonian Picts, the Picts of Scotland out numbered the Irish Gaels by 9 to 1, Dál Riata was only 1/4 the land of Pictland.
@segano1 Picts is it? The Picts of Scotland were a sorry lot after Mac Alpine defeated them. There were Picts in Ireland too. If you read the ancient laws, the "dark haired ones" were a servant race - and the fairer Gaels were their masters. Nowhere was that more evident than in Scotland - where the Picts were little more than subsistence farmers and coal miners, a "proud race" hardly! There was also a Norse presence in Scotland, the Scots learned to sail from them! You have much to learn.
@devinediety That was before the coming of the Gaels. You speak of the Pictish race. They were in turn conquered by Miles and his warriors sometime in the early Bronze age. They (the Picts) became his subjects. Scotland was then called Pictland. Over time the blood mixed and produced the Gaelic race of the Isles of our present day. We also have cousins in Spanish Gaelicia (and perhaps even Polish Galicia) you forgot to mention. There are no pure races, only pure hearts.
@dijacobi The Scottish Caledonian Picts were never conquered, the 'OGAP4' Pictish haplotype is still in the vast majority of Scots today and they bred the dirty Gaylick Gael bastards back out over time, the Irish Gael is 'OGAP8',
you get your information from Catholic propaganda - it's what they want you to believe, but unfortunately for them, modern genetic science proves their mythic bullshit wrong.
I don't mind the Irish, I support a united Ireland but their propaganda on the Scots anger me.
@segano1 I am not Catholic. As for my information, it comes from history. But not the propaganda history of the british empire but from far more objective sources. Some of my sources are non-English, just so that you know. As for genetics, who knows? The history of the Scoti and those who gave us that name are a matter of record. The term Irish was used by the english to refer to anyone who was Island Gaelic. Historically the two were inseparable. Read about it.
@segano1 Scotland is a place, the Gaels are a race. The Highlanders did come from Ulster - that is a matter of fact. But the Gaels of Scotland are indeed a bit different from the Irish - of that there can be little doubt. But we do make much of little, that much is true. It makes for a good fight - another Celtic tradition! But that the Romans (and that was before the church existed my lad!) couldn't tell us apart should tell you something.
@dijacobi Gaels aren't a race, it was a culture, a language, Big Difference.
Look up the blood of the isles work by Brian Sykes for one, 12 years research (1996~2008) even state clearly that Dál Riata (now known as the Hebrides) now retains two thirds of Caledonian (early Scots) Pictish descent, and that most of Irish contributions were only recent, mainly Irish immigrants getting away from the Irish Famine, this may be of interest...Google "Irish tribesman the Scots did not come from Ireland".
@darts980 It's the English that pronounce it like that and a few Scots who don't know any better because they speak the Scots language or Scots-standard-English rather than Scots-Gáidhlig (which is actually pronounced Gallack) - pronounced just like "Garlic", but without the 'R' sound.
@segano1 By the spelling it should be pronounced gae-LIK, but some that I have heard do say it gah'LIK. There are also many regional dialects which are a thing of jealous debate. In my dialect (West Ulster/Donnegal) it is pronounced gwael'G. I have a friend who is from Skye that I can communicate with well enough. But the Connachtmen are harder to understand & the Kerrymen damn near unintelligible. I never spoke with anyone from the Highlands but it would likely be hard to understand them too.
@segano1 I do believe that we have had this conversation. If you want to hate us, then go ahead. But don't base your bigotry on science. King Solomon tells us "There is nothing new under the sun". There are many period records of the times before the Tragedy of Kinsale that clearly show Irish warriors in kilts marching into battle following pipers. This custom was preserved in Scotland but it is not "purely Scottish" as you contend. The Assyrians and Babylonians did likewise. Read about it.
@segano1 And my thanks to the Scots for preserving some of the ancient customs. They are a common heritage & held in trust. This is not a matter for debate. The custom of piping was always closely tied to the Isle of Skye and the MacCrimmons. There was even an academy for pipers there where the best pipers went to study. Poetry was in the same way tied to Kerry, and there was an academy for them as well. To deny the facts for the sake of hate is worse a crime. And we are cousins after all.
@thecrusades2 I said nothing to suggest otherwise. But know that the "british crown govermnent" and as such did not actually exist in those days. If Prince Charlie would have been keen enough he would have realized that those Gaelic warriors that rallied to his banner (the Irish were there too) wanted a Gaelic King to rule a Gaelic Kingdom and most of those who supported him were Catholics. Most of the protestants fought for thrice cursed england. So my facts are "rightly" and that.
@highlandruby Not so. Scotland was defeated in 1745 and the Scots have suffered ever since. Where the Irish suffered the Great Hunger, The Scots were beset by the Highland Clearances. England raped both lands and left both to rot. In Ireland the IRA secured freedom for 26 of our 32 counties. In Scotland there is plenty of land for sheep and Royal Wilderness Reserves, but little room for the children of the Gael. Most Scots worthy of bearing the name are exiled from their homeland.
@dijacobi What a heap of Shite! Scotland was never conquered, in 1746 that was the 'battle of Culloden', that was a civil war, Scots played both sides in that battle, the government forces and the Jacobite forces, the Jacobites won the 'battle of Prestonpans' and the government forces won the 'battle of Culloden'.
@segano1 Culloden was in 1746, that is correct. In Gaelic the war was called "the '45" and that is what I was thinking about when I wrote that. I noticed my mistake long before you pointed it out actually, but a comment once posted cannot be edited. The "Jacobites" were Gaelic patriots who answered Prince Charles' call to reinstate their freedom. But the Gaelic monarchy (both Scottish & Irish) died on Culloden moor on April 16th 1746. It was no "civil war" that is english propaganda.
@dijacobi Ok, first off you can't be accuse me of using 'English propaganda' while you spout nothing but 'Irish Gaylick Catholic propaganda', I use 'Scottish sources', I know my own country of birth and I don't use foreign Irish or English sources which is infected with religious propaganda from Ireland and national bias from England, the 'battle of Culloden' had Scots fighting on both sides, many sources confirm more Scots fought for government, so it was certainly not 'Scotland vs England'.
@dijacobi Jacobites were some groups of Scottish Highlanders who fought for Bonnie Prince Charlies throne, they were not "Gaels", they were not "Scots". "Gaels" is a term for a particular Irish tribe that resided in Connacht and Munster. Scottish monarchy was not the same as Irish monarchy at all, the Scottish monarchy came from a long line of the Pictish (early Scots) dynasty of ancient Scotland. Culloden took place in 1746 - 143 years after the Scottish king took control of England in 1603.
@segano1 No no, you're so wrong boyo! The term Gael refers to a Celtic ethnic group. And Gaelic (Irish, Manx, & Scottish all the same) is the language that they spoke and still speak to this day. They cared little for your talk of nations, and lived on the continent before invading your beloved Pictland and conquering it. I also likely have Pictish blood and so I bear the Picts no hate. They were brought into the family, just like the Argyle Bretons were. That is the Celtic way.
@BigCheese462 Cromwell was one of the biggest tyrants to ravage through Scotland & Ireland, In fact it was he who turned on the Scottish Covenanters after the civil war forced them into submission, I see the English historians are still writing the history books in Britain !!! It doesn't seem to be the Scottish ONES...................................
@BigCheese462 Cromwell was one of the biggest tyrants to ravage through Scotland & Ireland, In fact it was he who turned on the Scottish Covenanters after the civil war forced them into submission, I see the English historians are still writing the histery books in Britain !!! It doesn't seem to be the Scottish ONES...................................
@highlandruby The reality is both the Irish and the Scottish have lost and won many a battle against the English, both countries have been subjected to English rule over the centuries, do you seriously think England ever gave anything to anyone just because they begged for it ? NEVER Irish independance came at a very high price, many a brave man and women have fought and died for it !!! Please read the comment at the top of this page by dijobi ! NOT A TRUERER WORD ON YOUTUBE HAS BEEN SPOKEN!
@shambles7ful And thank you brother. My own mother's father was of that race who hail from the Co. Donnegal, a place where we never forgot who we were or what was lost. God bless the IRA. Let's hope that our Scottish cousins will awake, and toss that G-D cursed "crown government" back down to england where it belongs.
@shambles7ful The Scots and English have been at each others throats for centuries but in the end it was a Scottish King who took over the English throne, King James VI King of Scots took over the English throne in 1603.
Before that, Scotland defeated the English in both the wars of independence.
@segano1 True, but the Stewarts were more concerned with their own position than they were in the High Kingdom that they inherited. England was the shining Jezebel who they lusted after, & like poor Ahab they were led to their ruin by her! We, Irish and Scot alike were just pawns to that end. Our true hope was always in Republicanism - as is so bitterly apparent now. No, it is not a perfect government - G-D did not make men to be perfect. But it is the best we can hope to do.
@BigCheese462 The act of union was created because Scotland was broke and England needed man power in her armies same fate in Ireland, the bulk of the British army was made up of Scotts and Irishmen mostly Irish at one stage, all used up for Englands imperialistic expansion !!! How much wealth did the average Scottish or Irish person see out of empire ???
@BigCheese462 cromwell invaded Scotland during the civil war in1650, it was the Scottish turncoats who sold out to the English such as Campbells to invade and attack the highland people, the very ones who's culture you so verimently defend !!! Remember it was the English goverment who banned the bagpipes and tried to snuff out Scottish culture not the Irish !!!
@devinediety Are you trying to tell me their is no relationship between Gaelic Scotland and Ireland ? your as dumbed downed as the fuckwits who let all them towelheaded kebab munchers in and take over your precious leaminton spa !!!
@BigCheese462 You Scottish were also fucked over by cromwell and his murderous armies, anyway you Scots are still have no nation of your own, ruled by a foriegn queen ! so how isn't that been defeated? The English came to Scotland divided you and conquered, There is a great song about this it is called "PARCELL OF ROGUES". You could relate this sond to the Irish as well ! Irish they fought back got most of thier country back, now it looks like they have given it away to the EU SHAME SHAME !
@coveredexpres You should do more research into your own history, I never said he was Irish, you siding with these other hertiage deniers would makes you an embarassment to the people of Ireland !!!
@BigCheese462 Your just another hertiage denier sucumbed to anglo saxon propergander and brainwashing, divide and conquer certaintly worked on you lot !!!
@Albainn1 you Scots are still dominated by the English, the Irish were never fully beaten, at least they had enough balls to stand and fight for their freedom. The Mac's in Scotland came out of Ireland originally, so did the pipes, languague and dress, just accept history & go with it !!! Identity is one important thing u keep emphasing, yeah sure it's important, but why don't try and win back your own country instead of SUCKING ENGLANG'S cock for last 900 years, or do you enjoy it MUCH ???????
@Albainn1 the bagpipes originated in the middle east! yes macgregor is a scots name but the pipes he is playing are Irish warpipes because they only have two drones :) and im nt trying to start an argument but we wear kilts too over here and have done so for hundreds of years :)
@Albainn1 You obviously aren't up on your history, just accept the facts your pipes, clans, whisky & gaelic history all comes out of Ireland, the Roman word for Irishman is Scotti, the Irish had the pipes took them to Scotland and the Scots eventually modified them into what is now the modern highland bagpipe. Anyway you talk of English oppression, the whole thing of "DIVDE AND CONQUER" seems to have worked with you type of Scotsman, as for putting Mr Moore in the grave u learn respect TURNCOAT
@shambles7ful Hey bud with the dick on his head!! You don't know anything and youre Irish arse has been conquered and dominated by the English for over 900 years. You were born out of your mother's arsehole and your father was a dyke!! Ha, you Irish American Cunt!!!
"this instrument is much used by the Irish: to its sound this unconquered fierce and warlike people march their armies and encourage each other to deeds of valor. With it they also accompany the dead to the grave making such sorrowful sounds as to invite, nay to compel the bystander to weep"
@EntropicMisanthropic Your a fuckin tube and half you arrogant cunt!! This was a term to decribe the Scots and their people!! Ireland was conquered for almost 1000 years but Scotland was never, thats why he is writing about us Scots like this!! This man was a member of the Spanish Armada who got shiprecked off the shores of Scotland( Around Lewis or the Uists somewhere) and he is talking about Scotland!! Stop changin history you stupid ignorant bastard!!!
I'm Scottish and you've just insulted my instrument and the history behind it!! You're a shite piper, i wouldn't even call you a piper at all, just a useless piece of shite!! Go dig yourself a grave and jump in it! Take your shite pipes with you too and that gay hat!!!
@mdpocoroba: Personally I think it's a bad recording when the acoustics of the room they are in ruin the tunes of the instrument. If you don't then that's fine
@Adjuni Haha its not the acoustics of the room thats doing it, thats meant to help!! Its his playing and his shite skill and music!! I don't even know what the hell he's playing the reckess waste of space!!!
@mdpocoroba Haha wheres yours too you dumb fuck??!! Didn't think so either!! And your a half dick! so go back and suck on your mothers third nipple!!!
Those drones sure are low on the pins. Are all the Moore Brothers Pipes that way?
Also, you seem to be struggling a bit there. Are those harder than a GHB? One wouldn't think so, but I don't know if there is something obvious I am overlooking.
To all who appreciated Bob'a playing--thank you! Sadly, this half of Moore Brothers Pipe Co. passed away suddenly on March 21, 2009. Production on the pipes will continue and we will honor his memory always!
@MooreBrothersPipes My condolences on the loss of your brother. We all miss him. May he live forever in G-D's good kingdom, and never be forgotten in the world of men.
The piob uilleann is the queen of the ballroom and the pub, and her song is merry. She sings to us "Be merry, and rejoice in my song", we dance to her song and forget the toils of the day . Just as the piob mor is the queen of the battlefield, and her cry is great and terrible. She sings "Rise up, children of the Gael! To arms! To battle!". And to her song we march upon our enemies, and then dance on their graves. So, the bagpipe is our instrument, a common heritage of all Gaelic people.
I find it strange that there has been such an effort to divide Gaelic piobaireacht into seperate Irish and Scottish traditions. This is as artificial as it it is ludicrous. The Gaelic language, poetry, music and dance are a common heritage that we share with our Scottish brothers. The English oppressed us all, and divided us into warring camps so that we would be easier to rule over. They raped our lands and murdered us, and even now we are still at each others throats; it is a dirty shame.
@dijacobi Piobaireachd is 100% Scottish!!! This is an ancient Scottish tradition, one of the oldest in Europe may i add, and there is nothing Irish about it whatsover!!! There is absolutely zero Piobaireachd that is found or has been ever recorded in Ireland!! It is solely and uniquely Scottish!!! I wish people wouldn't talk out of their arse all the time!!!
@dijacobi Your a fucking fool you arrogant prick!!! You can't divide Piobaireachd because its Scottish, its got no connection with Ireland whatsoever so stop trying to assimilate the two countries!!! Your as worse as the English oppression!!!
@Albainn1 And you my cousin, are quite ignorant. Your own words bear this out. The bagpipes are an ancient instrument that predates both Ireland or Scotland. They actually found an ancient pipe chanter in Iraq of all places! Piobaireacht in Gaelic means piping and refers to the full repertoire of the instrument (in Gaelic) . Music is not the property of any nation. Music is the property of the artist. In truth, the some of the greatest pipers were Scots, but Ireland has many pipers as well.
@dijacobi I find it even stranger that there are Plastic fucks who try to make the Scots and Irish as the same people, they try to make out that the Scots are all just Plastic Paddies and that Scottish tradition and culture are Irish when it's actually the other way around, the people who say this are brainwashed due to their 100 years of national Catholic propaganda.
Scots = Native Caledonian Picts.
Irish = Celt Gael Invaders from Iberia (modern Spain).
@segano1 What nonsense! The Gaelic culture was documented by the Romans and was what gave birth to what you are calling Scotland and Ireland. The Picts were conquered by Miles in Ireland and by the Irish Ulstermen of Dal Riada in Roman times. The Scots and the Irish are mixed peoples. We are Pict, Gael, Norse, Norman, and unfortunately english. And there are even a few Tinkerfolk and Jews in there too. There are no pure races, that is reality. Sex is too fun for that I think ;) .
@dijacobi You take all your history on early Scotland's Pictish origins from an outside foreign enemy - The Romans and their Catholicism, which became propaganda material later on in Ireland.
"Ireland" was only given it's name in the 1600's by Pope Leo X.
Scotland is the oldest nation state in Europe with the oldest national flag in current use in the world.
Scotland had it's population thousands of years before Ireland and was a nation state hundreds of years before Ireland.
@segano1 SCOT = IRISMAN OLD LATIN YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVEN'T HEARD THE OLD SAYING ' A SCOTSMAN AN IRISHMAN WHO CAN SWIM ' !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Anyway what with calling us GAYLICK all the time, we get your point but it sounds really immature coming from somebody who's trying to uphold a so called educated debate.................
"Scotti" = A latinised form of the ancient Greek word "Skoto" (Darkland), Latinised to "Scotti" by Latin speakers and re-defined as "Speakers of Gaelic" initially, which included the Caledonian Picts of Scotland who supported Gallack's (Irish language was pronounced "GAYLICK") religious association.
All Scotland's first kings were Picts, "ALBA" - Scotland's true name is a Pictish root word and still in use as is "Caledonia" - Scotland's poetic name.
@sh Con't..The Caledonian Picts (early Scots) regained back all their land, forged as one powerful kingdom - The Kingdom of Alba (ALBA a Pictish root word cognate of ALBION - entire isles ancient name). Kingdom of Scotland was an exact continuation of 'Kingdom of Alba', Scotland - used by the 900's onwards by Pictish king Constantine II, 'Scotti' Anglicised to "Scottish" & re-defined once again to mean Pirate, Raider & Predator of the time to describe all of Scotland, nothing to do with Ireland.
@dijacobi The Picts were never conquered, that's what national Catholic propaganda wants you to believe, Google "Irish tribesman the Scots did not come from Ireland" - click on first link.
The twelve years genetic research headed by Brian Sykes on his Blood of the isles book proved from 1996~2008 that the Scots today still retain their Pictish origins with the 'OGAP4' haplotype code.
The only culture that was Gaelic was the language.
Scots-Gaelic has elements of Pictish supplanted into it.
@segano1 I just finished reading Blood of the Isles,1 by Bryan Sykes of Oxford University. Sykes styles himself a genetic archaeologist, and in this book he spends as much time on the historiography and mythography of identity in Britain and Ireland as he does on interpretation of DNA tests. The result is a book that should be included as a text in any general survey history of the British Isles.......
It is the first history that uses genetic material as its primary data set, and it works very well, coming from a scholar with interests as well-rounded as Sykes. He outlines the way migrations to the Isles have been thought of, from the polemics of sixth century monks to the absurdities of nineteenth-century racists, sets out hypotheses based on the more reasonable theories, then tests them through data, separately for Ireland, Scotland, Wales, and England.
@segano1 The conclusion, and it is a very important step for our understanding of history to take, is that the British and Irish are basically one people, the same as they were when they settled the Isles from Spain as the ice receded, with only minor impact from the names that history records, Celts, Romans, Saxons, and Vikings. The impact of these peoples, genetic in part, was mostly cultural and historical. He also made out that Picts and the Gàidhlig are Celtic and that they are the same!!!
@segano1 but arent the Irish and Scottish sharing a common ancestry? I mean from my understanding the Gauls were a celtic tribe that migrated from the Isles and I think that they all carry some origin with one another. All perhaps different tribes but Gaelic non the less. And honestly idk why people gotta fight about it when you were all fighting the same Allies and Ireland did come to you aid in the pursuit of freedom for both nations. God Bless brother. Good job too btw.
@Peidmonte89 No, they don't, the Irish came much later from invading Iberian Celts from where modern Spain is today, the Scots are by far and large Caledonian Picts of ancient Scotland. The whole myth is based on the theory of Dál Riata being a vagabond kingdom that moved from country to country but historians are coming to see that the Dál Riatans were in fact always indigenous to Scotland and it was the other way, they went to Antrim at the Northern tip of Ireland and held that as a part.
@Peidmonte89 The Irish are no more related to the Scots than the English or Welsh are, the only reason people think they are is because of so called 'similar culture', but this is because Irish republicans took Scottish identity from the early 1900's, look up the works of Irish revisionist myth makers like W.H. Grattan Flood and Henry Sarks for example, they invented a whole fake reality of Irish history to give it some kind of pedigree that it never had, they've since all been dis-proved.
@Peidmonte89 Scotland had one of the first forms of democratic freedom in the world, the Declaration of Arbroath (my birth town too), is in the Angus region ('Circinn' in Old Scots Pictish) just north of Tayside, and is hailed there as the birth place of Scotland, there are signs all around on the A9 stating so too, and that's the Northeast of Scotland.
@Peidmonte89 While Ireland has suffered at the hands of the English so much, particularly where Ireland's true identity of the lieann and Brat and flutes and harp were out lawed by England as Henry II wanted the Irish to become more English like, he believed that the less different the Irish were, the easier they would be to assimilate into English.
@Peidmonte89 The Uilleann pipes are a remake of Scottish Pipes, they were made by an Englishman in the 1880's, he took Scottish bagpipes and made a softer variation of them from it's original fierce Scottish sounding one, they were called 'Union pipes', it was later adopted by Irish republicans in the early 1900's to aid the Irish independence movement and try to promote Ireland as distinct, so they adopted Scottish identities like the Pipes and Tartans and dropped the original Irish flutes.
@segano1 Given the proximity of the landmasses I find it unlikely that the traffic flowed only in one direction. And it is well documented that the Irish raided the British coast around the time of the end of Rome. The economy in Ireland was highly propped up by slave trade at the time (hence the legend of St Patrick)
Andulsi 1 month ago
@segano1 Like I said, I only care about what s true. I think it untenable to claim Gaelic began in Scotland and spread to Ireland. There s no evidence of that. The literary medieval texts in both Scotland and Ireland suggest the opposite is true. Trust in more recent Historians and Archaelogists than Wylie. He was of his time. Why would it be a problem for you if there had been an Irish invasion. Is it an emotive thing? The history of the whole world is invasion and counter invasion
Andulsi 1 month ago
@segano1 I dont necesarily accept that gaelic is just a linguistic group. Languages throughout history tend to be created by specific ethnic groups. WHt should Gaelic be different. Why would the Leabhar Gabhala name them as a specific people? The Milesians. The Gaels. Same thing. Also I read some of wyklies stuff he s clearly anticatholic. And as guilty of romantiscism and embellishment as any Irish nationalist in the 1800s.
Andulsi 1 month ago
@pondlife14. I m more interested in transcending culture these days truth be told. I also studied psychology and there s a theory that to hold onto ethnocultural identity too strongly represents a fragmentary sense of self. I think ultimatly it may be an unhealthy way for a person to define themselves, since it almost absolves them of the need to achieve things in their own life. So maybe it s ok to celebrate culture without fighting over it the way humans have for millenia
Andulsi 1 month ago
@pondlife14. Though to be fair, I think our relationship with the EU has been alot more positive than the old relationship with Britain when they ruled us
Andulsi 1 month ago
@pondlife14. I know and its fine. I don write stuf on here to be a rbid foaming at the mout armchair revolutionary or something... lol
Andulsi 1 month ago
@segano.just found some sources on Wylie. Rabid anti catholic. he can hardly be said to be writing from a cold scientific viewpoint. Of course he was going to minimise any Irish influence in the history of Scotland
Andulsi 1 month ago
@Andulsi And can you provide proof of Wylie being anti-Irish? I've looked far and wide for a source that claims or suggests this, having read about half of his work so far, I've yet to see any anti-Irish or even anti-Catholic views on his book "A history of the Scottish nation".
Plus if it is not reliable and/or he was anti-Irish, then way did the Vatican go to such lengths to ban the book, what was it about that book that had to be kept hidden?
segano1 1 month ago
@segano. I suspect your take on world history is somewhat confused because of your obvious hatred of catholicism. Personally, I dont discriminate. I hate all religions equally
Andulsi 1 month ago
@segano. Also to suggest Ireland is a weak vassal state is daft. Who is still under Westminsters rule. Sure, we' re in trouble now. Mostly because the vision of the likes of James Connolly was betrayed (in my opinion). He was born in Glasgow by the way... Do you know Scottish and Welsh Nationalists were cheering for Ireland on the sidelines during our War of Independence?
Andulsi 1 month ago
@Andulsi Ireland was told by Merkel on how to vote on the Lisbon Treaty. After the Irish vote rejecting it, 16 months later what happened, Ireland was subjugated to German will and told how to vaote. Ireland should take a leaf out of the UK situation we, are not a vassel country, is not in our DNA. Look at how the Scots stood up to the mighty Obama and the House of Representative regarding the Lockerbie bomber, no capitulation.
pondlife14 1 month ago
@Andulsi Hello Andulsi , the point you make is correct we are under rule from Westminster, with a collection of MP’s from all 4 countries of the Union. The UK is governed by political parties not nationalist parties. We are the only non vassal country in Europe. Ireland should take some lessons from the UK as Ireland is a vassal state of Europe or should I say Merkel’s Eurozone. (with her lapdog Sarkozy)
pondlife14 1 month ago
@Andulsi This is good banter, take it in good humour as I like pulling your leg!!
pondlife14 1 month ago
@segano. why do you think Dr Wylie's book 'history of the Scottish Nation' is definitive? It can hardly be said to be unbiased. Nationalism creates strange blind sights. I' m only interested in what s true. To suggest the Gaels were in Scotland first is just daft. Now here the overwhelming evidence both archaeological, linguistic and literary is against that idea.
Andulsi 1 month ago
@segano."Ceannas Ghàidheal do Chlainn Cholla, còir fhògradh," (The Headship of the Gael to the family of Colla, it is right to proclaim it), giving MacDonald's genealogy back to Colla Uais. Ironically, I also have O hEanna ancestors. An irish Sept of the Airgialla which is also linked to Colla Uais
Andulsi 1 month ago
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@segano. To claim Viking ancestry is as daft as suggesting that all Scots are of Irish descent. Scythians were never Vikings either. I studied ancient history and archaeology
on my own background, I becae interested in possible origins of McDonnels. So I did look up the Scottish one. Clan Donald. They claim descent to Colla Uais (an Irish King) as well as Conn o a hundred battles (another Irish King. Of couse there s also Norse background to clan Donald.
Andulsi 1 month ago
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@segano. I m messing with you. Of course there are differences between Scotland and Ireland. Though there linguistic and cultural similarities with the highlands and islands. Also, its a glasgow newspaper recently suggested, based on DNA testing, that both Irish and Scots need to look to Iberia for their roots. But to claim Scythian ancestry whilst denying Irish is weird (its an Irish legend). And sure, there was a norse presence (Gael-Gall).
Andulsi 1 month ago
@Andulsi By the way, the name 'Scot' being from 'Scythian' origin, does not suggest that the Scots originally came from Scythia, just that the word Scot is derived from the same word and not a Roman Latin word like many Irish claim.
segano1 1 month ago
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@segano. of course in Sweden last summer I was struck by the Tartan of Clan Olafsson. And the majestic sound of the pipes across the fjords
Andulsi 1 month ago
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@segano. I don' t really want to latch onto Scotland. I do get annoyed at the suggestion that all Irish culture is stolen from Scotkland. Bur cosider this, ther are McDonnells in my family tree. They could be Scottish (clan Donald) Irish sept from Fermanagh or another Irish sept from Thomond. Even the names are similar. In the gaelic form its identical. So like all Nations Scotland has different "founding" ethnicities. Pict, Gael, Angle, Briton etc...
Andulsi 1 month ago
@Andulsi Once again, you claim Scottish people were started by different people like Pict, Briton, Angle and Gaels, yet one of these identities are near enough the same as the another, Pict were just the Northern Britons, the Britons were just the southern Picts.
Another identity you claim is separate is the 'Gael' how can that be when the term was linguistic only? That means anybody who spoke a Goidelic tongue was considered a Gael back then regardless of where they hailed from.
segano1 1 month ago
@Andulsi Con't...As for the Angles? They only got as far as Edinburgh before they were beaten back by the Caledonian Picts (the real early Scots) at the The 'Battle of Dun Nechtain' or Battle of Nechtansmere (Scottish Gáidhlig: Blàr Dhùn Neachdain)
So the Angles contribution was extremely small and made no real significant contribution overall to the Scots as a collective group.
Plus the research on the 'OGAP4' code is Pictish and found all over Scotland, even in the Hebrides and Strathclyde.
segano1 1 month ago
@pondlife14. Also, don' t mention the British empire to me like it' s a good thing. With my background, I take a particulary jaundiced view of any type of imperialism. As for bailouts etc... . The treaty of 1921 ensured that Ireland would remain enslaved to British Capitalist forces. The vision of people like James Connolly completely betrayed, though our politicians stll pay him lip service
Andulsi 1 month ago
@pondlife14.One of the reasons Brehon law endured in Ireland so long after the Normans first came is that it was a much better though out and advanced system than what they used in Britain. Not perfect, but certainly more egalitarian
Andulsi 1 month ago
@pondlife14. Of course you could argue the Clan system was antiquated, but having amazing similarites to the old Irish Brehon system, it was actually a fairer system AT THE TIME than medieval common law or Feudal law. As such it could well have evolved into brilliant legal system. for a start
Andulsi 1 month ago
@pondlife14. Royals having Scottish Estates? Well would you not rather see those tracts of land in the hands of the people and designated as National Parks o some such rather than in the hands of an antiquated institution
Andulsi 1 month ago
@pondlife14.You know the Tudors had a fair bit of Welsh Blood. Didn' t stop them having repressive policies when it came to subjugating Wales
Andulsi 1 month ago
@pondlife14. Centre of power is London not Edinburgh. And the Lords of The Iles are supposed to be the Chiefs of Clan Donald. In fact the whole Highland Clan system was destruyed. I don t see Lowland Scots or Gaelic as the official languages of Britain.
Andulsi 1 month ago
@Andulsi You have an obsession with latching on to Scotland for some unknown reason.
Scots are NOT Irish, never was never will.
Scotland is much more of a Scandinavian/ancient British country than anything to do with the Irish.
segano1 1 month ago
@segano1. Please do tell what the recent evidence is. I' ve been waiting for some time now
Andulsi 4 months ago
@segano1. Please do tell what the recent evidence is. I' ve been waiting for some time now
Andulsi 4 months ago
@segano1. Incidentally, put Ireland down all you like but at least we have 26 counties of an independant Republic. Scotland is still a vassal state. Sure,you have your own Parliament. But the English stil rule you. The Royals still hold huge estates in Scotland. The Prince of Wales now holds the Title of Lord of the Isles.
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pondlife14 1 month ago
@Andulsi So a vassal state somehow not Scots have more rights than the English withy the current make up of the Union.Be careful when you make such flippant comments. I can easily say Ireland is a vassal state of the UK and the EU as you need our jobs (I know hundreds of Irish working in Scotland-not so independent then!!) as well as our generosity with bail outs to keep your economy afloat
pondlife14 1 month ago
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@Andulsi Scotland and England formed the most successful team in world history creating the British Empire owning 1/4 of the world. According to the last poll most Scots like the English and vice versa. Last 3 prime ministers Scottish , the Queen mother Scottish, the Queen half Scottish So what’s the problem with estates in Scotland or the title Lord of the Isles Prince Charles has a Scottish Parent.
pondlife14 1 month ago
@Andulsi I already replied to this comment but the Queen Mother was Scottish, the Queen is half Scottish half german, so what the problem with Prince Charles having the title Lord of the Isles, or the royals having Scottish estates as they are also Scottish after all! Oh the last 3 prime ministers Scottish/ Scottish roots so so much for vassel state rubbish. Tghe British are more of a nation tham you realise.
pondlife14 1 month ago
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@Andulsi I already replied to this comment but the Queen Mother was Scottish, born near Dundee, the Queen is half Scottish half german, so what the problem with Prince Charles having the title Lord of the Isles, or the royals having Scottish estates as they are also Scottish after all! Oh the last 3 prime ministers were Scottish / Scottish roots so much for vassel state rubbish. The British are more of a nation than you realise.
pondlife14 1 month ago
@pondlife14 Only Irish say that rubbish, their minds have been poisoned by papacy.
They look at everything, especially Scottish history through the biased prism of Irish history, that's why they see the Scots low on their level.
Notice how they try to make out that the people of Scotland are like them? Weak vassel state people, couldn't be further from the truth.
Just because Ireland was, Ireland was sold by Pope Adrian IV to King Henry II of England in return that England became more Catholic.
segano1 1 month ago
@Segano.They laughed when I told them some people were trying to argue the other way around. Told me that yes, one or two Unionist Academics tried to argue the other way around, but respected historians don' t take them seriously
Andulsi 4 months ago
@Segano. That' s all nonsense. I' m just back from a trip to Edinburgh. Spoke to a SCOTTISH historian in Edinburgh Castle who confirmed that DalRiada/Scots were indeed originally from Ireland. NOT an Irish nationalist. NOT a revisionist. But a respected authoriy on Scotish history in Einburgh itself.
Andulsi 4 months ago
But that is not to say (as suggested here) tha our tire culure is madey upey 19th century romantiscism. Simply not true. And if you want the real authentithing, check the Sean Nos (The Old Way). What' s with the anti Irish sentiment here? Understand it from Unionists, they always hated any expression of culture that differentiated the Island from Britain, so obviously they belittle it. Not sure about the others though.
Andulsi 4 months ago
You people have no idea about Irish Culture. I' m reading terrible ill informed crap here. Check Sean Nos singing, dance and storytelling as our truest expression of our culture. Very ancient. More so tthan the Uillean pipes or any of it. And nobod is giving us the evdence that Scots/ Dalriada was nativeScottish. Scots historians themselves will tell you those people came from Ireland. There was indeed cross pollination ofmusic from Ireland toScotlnd, particularly Donegal.
Andulsi 4 months ago
@40markava. I wouldn' t waste time on Mr Calengela. He' s a knucke dragging secterian pro british unionist. That' s why it rankles him that the Irish once had the upper hand in early medieval times. Check his profile, he has some enlightened ideas about black people too, the bigotted shit
Andulsi 4 months ago
Unfortunately the Irish are forced to leave their nation but that has to do with an oppressive occupiers robbing and raping! This forced emigration has spread Irish influence all over the world and will out live forced imperialism!
40markava 4 months ago
@calengela You contradict yourself, Yes the Catholics did suffer but as an American I would have to disagree with you about Ireland being "useless good for fuck nation" America would not be what it is today if it was not for Ireland! Starting with helping building the souths agriculture, railroad construction. The civil war was won and politics in American changed for ever.
40markava 4 months ago
Not to mention that thousands of Scotsmen fled to Ireland to escape English persecution so it was a melting of two cultures.
40markava 4 months ago
@40markava That's Catholic revisionist made up bullshit, it's the Catholics that suffered, not the SScots, the Scots religion was Presbyterianism, the English was Anglicanism and the Irish had Catholicism.
Stop romantisising history to make the Irish as good as the Scots, the creation of the modern world can be attributed to Scotland, where as Ireland is a useless good for fuck all nation that's history mainly consists of a place to escape from rather than go to, with worst case of Paedophilia.
Calengela 4 months ago
@40markava There was no melting of cultures, Irish revisionist myth makers like Grattan W.H. Flood and Henry Sarks works sold every where in Ireland and were bought and taught widespread by Plastic Paddies in the States.
They used Scottish culture as a way to give Ireland a kind of pedigree and history that it never had.
That is fact.
Catholic revisionism was the worst thing to happen to Ireland, they left the UK to be Rome's slave and are now bankrupted to fuck as an EU run shit hole.
Pathetic
Calengela 4 months ago
Watching you tow sptit back and forward is crazy. GmtC1979 that last comment is just so wrong in so many levels. Its clear you get your pride from a 19th century Gratton Flood image of what Ireland is. No offence but a person who gets THAT worked up with his nationalism has mental problems. That comment is directed at all the tit-for-tat comments.
MsOneiroi77 5 months ago
@thecrusades2 The Scot's wear T shirts?
iamthedor 5 months ago
@iamthedor iamthedor t-shirts are an ancient scottish tradition that irish americans have stolen off them and pretended to be their own.
GmtC1979 5 months ago
@GmtC1979 Why do the dirty Irish prance about in brown shit coloured skirts and pretend that they are Scottish tartan Kilts?
segano1 5 months ago
@GmtC1979 The best Ireland can get, as they don't want to ressurrect the true Irish culture out of embarrassment, is Gold seeking, green tights wearing, flute playing, gnome looking Leprechauns.
segano1 5 months ago
Love Scottish history look up Highland Clans - MacDonald - Campbell - Mac Kenzie What a show!!!!!!!
gazzas46zs 5 months ago
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@ EVERYBODY
!!!! WARNING !!!! NOT FOR BIGOTS IT WILL MAKE YOU CRY
Look up on Youtube Scottish British Documented Film
Dalriada Project
Dalriada Film
gazzas46zs 5 months ago
@ EVERYBODY
!!!! WARNING !!!! NOT FOR BIGOTS IT WILL MAKE YOU CRY
The Story of Ireland part 1/4 episode 1
gazzas46zs 5 months ago
I think he needs a bit more practice...
smilingscottsman 6 months ago
I see that our migrant Scots (open to question) historical revisionists are contaminating this page also with their modern myths and legends all of which have been dealt with on other sites. They really need to get over themselves!
irishhistoryman 7 months ago
@irishhistoryman Very true, if you go on to other Irish culture & history pages the same users are spreading their moronic myths which have been rubbished by Archaeological, Antropological & historical fact, but they will do anything to push their lies.
Some people have nothing else in their lives, sad but true.
gespb32 6 months ago
@steandar Even if Scotland became independent, the UK would still remain btw, the constitution and new name would simply be changed from "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and N.Ireland" and be changed to "The United Kingdom of Scotland, England and N.Ireland".
Scottish independence would only take Scotland out of the 'British state' name along with England, and the "United Kingdom" would remain and become the "United Kingdoms" < note the S at the end, as the monarch is Scotland's as well.
segano1 7 months ago
@steandar And the English have even less to do with them as the English didn't even exist until 927AD, the Germanic tribes hadn't come into Britannia, what's now England until after the Roman empire died out.
They came in and saw the Roman remains and thought they were built by giants ffs.
And what the Irish wore was a lot more like a fuckin dress than what anyone else wore back then you tit, the brat and Lieanne looked like a long plain yellow dress.
segano1 7 months ago
@steandar ,Con't... plus even if it was true, you admit then that the Scots had 1100 years before the Irish, (first mention of them in Ireland is 1206, and is generally thought that the Anglo-Normans Introduced them to Ireland precisely 30 years after conquering Ireland) as not only does one source say they were played in Scotland here as far back as 450AD, but another states it goes back to 100AD, it could possibly be even earlier of course.
segano1 7 months ago
@steandar ROFL! Ok first off you plastic, there's no proof that the Romans gave the pipes to Scotland, especially when you consider that the Romans failed to conquer Scotland despite centuries of on and off effort, it's merely a theory, not saying it isn't true either but to say it's true is just as inaccurate/accurate as saying it is true...Con't...
segano1 7 months ago
I love how all the miserable Scottish assholes without high school diplomas show up and start denying long periods of history.
There's a reason you people are the niggers of Great Britain just like we are. Now swallow.
EntropicMisanthropic 7 months ago
@EntropicMisanthropic These are all facts you daft Plastic Paddie Yank cunt, yea! Don't think I don't know you're a fuckin Yankee, no wonder you hide your channel, but I can tell because of how you type.
You're the ''niggers'', you're being controlled by one (Barrack Obama), and before you come back raising the race card and cry "FOWL", you only have to look at you're own comment.
Wankee Yankee Cunt!
segano1 7 months ago
National Irish dress died hundreds of years ago. It's never been resurrected. If we did so, it would be cloaks covering hides! National dress for Irish pipers is Scottish. Hibernian dress is a myth created by Starck, English COs and Scottish manufactures.
Regarding the business of full dress, it's here that we find the one item, which is Irish, the Brat of ancient Ireland or cloak of Irish Guards and Irish Fusiliers. The cloak and caubeen are about the extent of it, the cloak being far older.
segano1 7 months ago
@TheGesb79 'Dál Riata' was a small insignificant piece of what's now the Hebrides of Scotland's rightful land, it was a mere 1/4 the size of all of Caledonian Pictish (early Scots) territory, it took massive heavy defeats in the time of Domnall and was completely destroyed at the 'battle of Degsastan' which wiped them back off the map forever, it was then subject to the Caledonian Picts (early Scots) who rightly regained it back as the 'Kingdom of Alba' - Pictish root word.
segano1 7 months ago
@TheGesb79 Irish culture is a complete rip off of Scottish culture.
Scots = Caledonian Picts of ancient Scotland
Irish = Celt Gael invaders from Iberia (Modern day Spain)
Celts = Made up modern mid 18th century term from an English linguist, the term was later hi-jacked by Irish to link itself with the Scots in order to invent myth to link Scottish culture as Irish too - which is absolute rubbish of course.
Scottish land and population pre-dates Ireland's by at least 4000 years.
Simples!
segano1 7 months ago
The Scots did not come from Ireland you moron,
Scots =Caledonian Picts, proved by modern genetic research based on the OGAP4 haplotype code.
Irish = Celt Gael invaders from Iberia (Modern Spain)
Proved by Modern genetic science and archeological evidence.
"Scotti" was a Latinised variation of the ancient Greek "Skoto" (Darkland) it was changed to 'Pirate', 'Raider' & 'Predator' that Romans described the Caledonian Picts of Scotland.
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segano1 7 months ago
What an idiotic looking prat! He's probably some dumb typical ignorant stupid Yankee plastic paddie pretending to be Irish while looking like he's pretending to be Scottish, Yankee intellect and ignorance never ceases to amuse. There's nothing Irish in this, it's all just pure Scottish. Irish republicans started hi-jacking Scottish identity in the early C19th after the emergence of the Celt romantism myths. True Irish identity is Flutes and Harps with yellow long dress like Lieann.
segano1 8 months ago
Hahaha. Who cares?
It' s the same as Pipe Bands are a ENGLISH invention, nothing scottisch at all.
magicbagpipe 8 months ago
@TheGesb79 I actually believe that the Gaelic Celts were the aboriginals of Central Europe. The Basques and the Picts are similarly obscure ancient Western European aboriginals. The Basques have survived as an ethnic group - and their language has a grammatical structure similar to Gaelic. The evidence is that the Picts also had a similar grammatical structure. I think that these were all similar ethnic groups. Who could know?
dijacobi 8 months ago
@thecrusades2 You are quite ignorant. The Galicia region in Spain is where you should go and find out the truth. In fact I'll help you: look up Susanna Seivane. Some of her vids are here on youtube! Amadan!
dijacobi 8 months ago
@thecrusades2 You talk a good rap, boyo but now it begins to show. i am thinking you are a wee bit orange. It was FYI, about Scotland's Independence for those Scottish clansmen who died on Culloden moor. There were both Protestants and Catholics - Irish and Scots and a few others, who died on that day. They were fighting your curiously Hanoverian "british crown government", which is a purely english invention. Ask those Highlanders who suffered the Clearances whether or not they were Gaelic!
dijacobi 8 months ago
@devinediety The Scots of today still descend largely from their true ancient ancestors, the Caledonian Picts.
As proved by the 'OGAP4' which was found all over Scotland, even in Argyll. What the Plastic Paddies and those brainwashed by 100 years of Catholic propaganda say is a pure myth, a myth that has been destroyed by modern genetic science.
The Scots true history is Caledonian Picts, the Picts of Scotland out numbered the Irish Gaels by 9 to 1, Dál Riata was only 1/4 the land of Pictland.
segano1 8 months ago
@segano1 Picts is it? The Picts of Scotland were a sorry lot after Mac Alpine defeated them. There were Picts in Ireland too. If you read the ancient laws, the "dark haired ones" were a servant race - and the fairer Gaels were their masters. Nowhere was that more evident than in Scotland - where the Picts were little more than subsistence farmers and coal miners, a "proud race" hardly! There was also a Norse presence in Scotland, the Scots learned to sail from them! You have much to learn.
dijacobi 8 months ago
@devinediety That was before the coming of the Gaels. You speak of the Pictish race. They were in turn conquered by Miles and his warriors sometime in the early Bronze age. They (the Picts) became his subjects. Scotland was then called Pictland. Over time the blood mixed and produced the Gaelic race of the Isles of our present day. We also have cousins in Spanish Gaelicia (and perhaps even Polish Galicia) you forgot to mention. There are no pure races, only pure hearts.
dijacobi 8 months ago
@dijacobi The Scottish Caledonian Picts were never conquered, the 'OGAP4' Pictish haplotype is still in the vast majority of Scots today and they bred the dirty Gaylick Gael bastards back out over time, the Irish Gael is 'OGAP8',
you get your information from Catholic propaganda - it's what they want you to believe, but unfortunately for them, modern genetic science proves their mythic bullshit wrong.
I don't mind the Irish, I support a united Ireland but their propaganda on the Scots anger me.
segano1 8 months ago
@segano1 I am not Catholic. As for my information, it comes from history. But not the propaganda history of the british empire but from far more objective sources. Some of my sources are non-English, just so that you know. As for genetics, who knows? The history of the Scoti and those who gave us that name are a matter of record. The term Irish was used by the english to refer to anyone who was Island Gaelic. Historically the two were inseparable. Read about it.
dijacobi 8 months ago
@dijacobi *They were not "Gaels", they were "Scots".
segano1 8 months ago
@segano1 Scotland is a place, the Gaels are a race. The Highlanders did come from Ulster - that is a matter of fact. But the Gaels of Scotland are indeed a bit different from the Irish - of that there can be little doubt. But we do make much of little, that much is true. It makes for a good fight - another Celtic tradition! But that the Romans (and that was before the church existed my lad!) couldn't tell us apart should tell you something.
dijacobi 8 months ago
@dijacobi Gaels aren't a race, it was a culture, a language, Big Difference.
Look up the blood of the isles work by Brian Sykes for one, 12 years research (1996~2008) even state clearly that Dál Riata (now known as the Hebrides) now retains two thirds of Caledonian (early Scots) Pictish descent, and that most of Irish contributions were only recent, mainly Irish immigrants getting away from the Irish Famine, this may be of interest...Google "Irish tribesman the Scots did not come from Ireland".
segano1 7 months ago
@segano The word Gaelic was never pronounced Gaylick, it is pronounced " GAEL GA " by the Irish, your from isan uneducated anglisized variation !!!
darts980 7 months ago
@darts980 It's the English that pronounce it like that and a few Scots who don't know any better because they speak the Scots language or Scots-standard-English rather than Scots-Gáidhlig (which is actually pronounced Gallack) - pronounced just like "Garlic", but without the 'R' sound.
segano1 7 months ago
@segano1 By the spelling it should be pronounced gae-LIK, but some that I have heard do say it gah'LIK. There are also many regional dialects which are a thing of jealous debate. In my dialect (West Ulster/Donnegal) it is pronounced gwael'G. I have a friend who is from Skye that I can communicate with well enough. But the Connachtmen are harder to understand & the Kerrymen damn near unintelligible. I never spoke with anyone from the Highlands but it would likely be hard to understand them too.
dijacobi 7 months ago
@segano1 I do believe that we have had this conversation. If you want to hate us, then go ahead. But don't base your bigotry on science. King Solomon tells us "There is nothing new under the sun". There are many period records of the times before the Tragedy of Kinsale that clearly show Irish warriors in kilts marching into battle following pipers. This custom was preserved in Scotland but it is not "purely Scottish" as you contend. The Assyrians and Babylonians did likewise. Read about it.
dijacobi 7 months ago
@segano1 And my thanks to the Scots for preserving some of the ancient customs. They are a common heritage & held in trust. This is not a matter for debate. The custom of piping was always closely tied to the Isle of Skye and the MacCrimmons. There was even an academy for pipers there where the best pipers went to study. Poetry was in the same way tied to Kerry, and there was an academy for them as well. To deny the facts for the sake of hate is worse a crime. And we are cousins after all.
dijacobi 7 months ago
@thecrusades2 I said nothing to suggest otherwise. But know that the "british crown govermnent" and as such did not actually exist in those days. If Prince Charlie would have been keen enough he would have realized that those Gaelic warriors that rallied to his banner (the Irish were there too) wanted a Gaelic King to rule a Gaelic Kingdom and most of those who supported him were Catholics. Most of the protestants fought for thrice cursed england. So my facts are "rightly" and that.
dijacobi 8 months ago
@highlandruby Not so. Scotland was defeated in 1745 and the Scots have suffered ever since. Where the Irish suffered the Great Hunger, The Scots were beset by the Highland Clearances. England raped both lands and left both to rot. In Ireland the IRA secured freedom for 26 of our 32 counties. In Scotland there is plenty of land for sheep and Royal Wilderness Reserves, but little room for the children of the Gael. Most Scots worthy of bearing the name are exiled from their homeland.
dijacobi 9 months ago
@dijacobi What a heap of Shite! Scotland was never conquered, in 1746 that was the 'battle of Culloden', that was a civil war, Scots played both sides in that battle, the government forces and the Jacobite forces, the Jacobites won the 'battle of Prestonpans' and the government forces won the 'battle of Culloden'.
segano1 8 months ago
@segano1 Culloden was in 1746, that is correct. In Gaelic the war was called "the '45" and that is what I was thinking about when I wrote that. I noticed my mistake long before you pointed it out actually, but a comment once posted cannot be edited. The "Jacobites" were Gaelic patriots who answered Prince Charles' call to reinstate their freedom. But the Gaelic monarchy (both Scottish & Irish) died on Culloden moor on April 16th 1746. It was no "civil war" that is english propaganda.
dijacobi 8 months ago
@dijacobi Ok, first off you can't be accuse me of using 'English propaganda' while you spout nothing but 'Irish Gaylick Catholic propaganda', I use 'Scottish sources', I know my own country of birth and I don't use foreign Irish or English sources which is infected with religious propaganda from Ireland and national bias from England, the 'battle of Culloden' had Scots fighting on both sides, many sources confirm more Scots fought for government, so it was certainly not 'Scotland vs England'.
segano1 8 months ago
@dijacobi Jacobites were some groups of Scottish Highlanders who fought for Bonnie Prince Charlies throne, they were not "Gaels", they were not "Scots". "Gaels" is a term for a particular Irish tribe that resided in Connacht and Munster. Scottish monarchy was not the same as Irish monarchy at all, the Scottish monarchy came from a long line of the Pictish (early Scots) dynasty of ancient Scotland. Culloden took place in 1746 - 143 years after the Scottish king took control of England in 1603.
segano1 8 months ago
@segano1 No no, you're so wrong boyo! The term Gael refers to a Celtic ethnic group. And Gaelic (Irish, Manx, & Scottish all the same) is the language that they spoke and still speak to this day. They cared little for your talk of nations, and lived on the continent before invading your beloved Pictland and conquering it. I also likely have Pictish blood and so I bear the Picts no hate. They were brought into the family, just like the Argyle Bretons were. That is the Celtic way.
dijacobi 8 months ago
bah! Irish, Scotish discuss who cares! Pipes, thats all!
Let me hear the tunes of war!
noirsebion 9 months ago
@BigCheese462 Cromwell was one of the biggest tyrants to ravage through Scotland & Ireland, In fact it was he who turned on the Scottish Covenanters after the civil war forced them into submission, I see the English historians are still writing the history books in Britain !!! It doesn't seem to be the Scottish ONES...................................
shambles7ful 9 months ago
@BigCheese462 Cromwell was one of the biggest tyrants to ravage through Scotland & Ireland, In fact it was he who turned on the Scottish Covenanters after the civil war forced them into submission, I see the English historians are still writing the histery books in Britain !!! It doesn't seem to be the Scottish ONES...................................
shambles7ful 9 months ago
@highlandruby The reality is both the Irish and the Scottish have lost and won many a battle against the English, both countries have been subjected to English rule over the centuries, do you seriously think England ever gave anything to anyone just because they begged for it ? NEVER Irish independance came at a very high price, many a brave man and women have fought and died for it !!! Please read the comment at the top of this page by dijobi ! NOT A TRUERER WORD ON YOUTUBE HAS BEEN SPOKEN!
shambles7ful 9 months ago
@shambles7ful And thank you brother. My own mother's father was of that race who hail from the Co. Donnegal, a place where we never forgot who we were or what was lost. God bless the IRA. Let's hope that our Scottish cousins will awake, and toss that G-D cursed "crown government" back down to england where it belongs.
dijacobi 8 months ago
@shambles7ful The Scots and English have been at each others throats for centuries but in the end it was a Scottish King who took over the English throne, King James VI King of Scots took over the English throne in 1603.
Before that, Scotland defeated the English in both the wars of independence.
segano1 8 months ago
@segano1 True, but the Stewarts were more concerned with their own position than they were in the High Kingdom that they inherited. England was the shining Jezebel who they lusted after, & like poor Ahab they were led to their ruin by her! We, Irish and Scot alike were just pawns to that end. Our true hope was always in Republicanism - as is so bitterly apparent now. No, it is not a perfect government - G-D did not make men to be perfect. But it is the best we can hope to do.
dijacobi 8 months ago
@BigCheese462 The act of union was created because Scotland was broke and England needed man power in her armies same fate in Ireland, the bulk of the British army was made up of Scotts and Irishmen mostly Irish at one stage, all used up for Englands imperialistic expansion !!! How much wealth did the average Scottish or Irish person see out of empire ???
shambles7ful 9 months ago
@BigCheese462 cromwell invaded Scotland during the civil war in1650, it was the Scottish turncoats who sold out to the English such as Campbells to invade and attack the highland people, the very ones who's culture you so verimently defend !!! Remember it was the English goverment who banned the bagpipes and tried to snuff out Scottish culture not the Irish !!!
shambles7ful 9 months ago
@devinediety Are you trying to tell me their is no relationship between Gaelic Scotland and Ireland ? your as dumbed downed as the fuckwits who let all them towelheaded kebab munchers in and take over your precious leaminton spa !!!
shambles7ful 9 months ago
@BigCheese462 You Scottish were also fucked over by cromwell and his murderous armies, anyway you Scots are still have no nation of your own, ruled by a foriegn queen ! so how isn't that been defeated? The English came to Scotland divided you and conquered, There is a great song about this it is called "PARCELL OF ROGUES". You could relate this sond to the Irish as well ! Irish they fought back got most of thier country back, now it looks like they have given it away to the EU SHAME SHAME !
shambles7ful 9 months ago
@coveredexpres You should do more research into your own history, I never said he was Irish, you siding with these other hertiage deniers would makes you an embarassment to the people of Ireland !!!
shambles7ful 9 months ago
@BigCheese462 Your just another hertiage denier sucumbed to anglo saxon propergander and brainwashing, divide and conquer certaintly worked on you lot !!!
shambles7ful 9 months ago
This is Scottish 100%!! Not Irish at all!!
BAGPIPES = SCOTTISH
KILT = SCOTTISH
MacGREGOR = SCOTTISH
This is from Scotland, everything!!!
Albainn1 9 months ago 6
@Albainn1 you Scots are still dominated by the English, the Irish were never fully beaten, at least they had enough balls to stand and fight for their freedom. The Mac's in Scotland came out of Ireland originally, so did the pipes, languague and dress, just accept history & go with it !!! Identity is one important thing u keep emphasing, yeah sure it's important, but why don't try and win back your own country instead of SUCKING ENGLANG'S cock for last 900 years, or do you enjoy it MUCH ???????
shambles7ful 9 months ago
@Albainn1 the bagpipes originated in the middle east! yes macgregor is a scots name but the pipes he is playing are Irish warpipes because they only have two drones :) and im nt trying to start an argument but we wear kilts too over here and have done so for hundreds of years :)
matthewdfk 8 months ago
@matthewdfk You have Gratton Flood's myths from 1911 to thank for making you think that this is Irish instead of Scottish.
segano1 7 months ago
Wow, lots of swearin' in your cultures. Is this representative?
maraffie1 10 months ago
God Bless the loss of Mr Moore!!!! His piping was shite and i couldve put him in the grave myself!!!
Albainn1 11 months ago
@Albainn1 You obviously aren't up on your history, just accept the facts your pipes, clans, whisky & gaelic history all comes out of Ireland, the Roman word for Irishman is Scotti, the Irish had the pipes took them to Scotland and the Scots eventually modified them into what is now the modern highland bagpipe. Anyway you talk of English oppression, the whole thing of "DIVDE AND CONQUER" seems to have worked with you type of Scotsman, as for putting Mr Moore in the grave u learn respect TURNCOAT
shambles7ful 9 months ago
@shambles7ful Hey bud with the dick on his head!! You don't know anything and youre Irish arse has been conquered and dominated by the English for over 900 years. You were born out of your mother's arsehole and your father was a dyke!! Ha, you Irish American Cunt!!!
Albainn1 9 months ago
Sorry for the loss of Mr. Moore. The pipes look very difficult to play and seem too loud for my tastes, but I am just one person.
apologeticsman 11 months ago
"this instrument is much used by the Irish: to its sound this unconquered fierce and warlike people march their armies and encourage each other to deeds of valor. With it they also accompany the dead to the grave making such sorrowful sounds as to invite, nay to compel the bystander to weep"
-1581, Vincenzo Galilei, father of Galileo
EntropicMisanthropic 1 year ago
@EntropicMisanthropic Your a fuckin tube and half you arrogant cunt!! This was a term to decribe the Scots and their people!! Ireland was conquered for almost 1000 years but Scotland was never, thats why he is writing about us Scots like this!! This man was a member of the Spanish Armada who got shiprecked off the shores of Scotland( Around Lewis or the Uists somewhere) and he is talking about Scotland!! Stop changin history you stupid ignorant bastard!!!
Albainn1 11 months ago
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I'm Scottish and you've just insulted my instrument and the history behind it!! You're a shite piper, i wouldn't even call you a piper at all, just a useless piece of shite!! Go dig yourself a grave and jump in it! Take your shite pipes with you too and that gay hat!!!
Albainn1 1 year ago
Bad sound recording IMO.
Adjuni 1 year ago
@Adjuni You're about a half-wit. Where's your online presentation on the pipes?
mdpocoroba 1 year ago
@mdpocoroba: Personally I think it's a bad recording when the acoustics of the room they are in ruin the tunes of the instrument. If you don't then that's fine
Adjuni 1 year ago
@Adjuni Haha its not the acoustics of the room thats doing it, thats meant to help!! Its his playing and his shite skill and music!! I don't even know what the hell he's playing the reckess waste of space!!!
Albainn1 11 months ago
@mdpocoroba Haha wheres yours too you dumb fuck??!! Didn't think so either!! And your a half dick! so go back and suck on your mothers third nipple!!!
Albainn1 11 months ago
@Albainn1 LOLOL!!!!
mdpocoroba 11 months ago
even a beginning piper sounds great to me. SCOTLAND FOREVER!!!
drason69 1 year ago
You have my condolences.
tetsuoswrath 1 year ago
i want to play the bagpipes but there way to loud my neighbours will hate me :L
joeskelly123 1 year ago
@joeskelly123 get a practice chanter they are perfect for beginners and its quiet you can get a cheap one for about twenty dollars.
guitarguys94 1 year ago
That was itchy fingers?
drewdonlon 1 year ago
ERIN GO BRAUGH
TheRocketman1989 1 year ago
i've tested alot of sets, this one sounds like shit.
thebugrussian 2 years ago
imagine living next door to this cunt..!
pmay222 2 years ago
@pmay222 funniest comment ever!!
Patriot666 2 years ago
Those drones sure are low on the pins. Are all the Moore Brothers Pipes that way?
Also, you seem to be struggling a bit there. Are those harder than a GHB? One wouldn't think so, but I don't know if there is something obvious I am overlooking.
NCPiper 2 years ago
Irish war pipes are for pussies.
shadows666love 2 years ago
@shadows666love and you sir are a youtube douchebag
guitarguys94 1 year ago
go ireland!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ww2freak007 2 years ago
Long live the independent and free Ireland!
Kallergianakis 2 years ago 8
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is he playing Scotland the Brave? sure sounds like it
Salmarion2 2 years ago
To all who appreciated Bob'a playing--thank you! Sadly, this half of Moore Brothers Pipe Co. passed away suddenly on March 21, 2009. Production on the pipes will continue and we will honor his memory always!
MooreBrothersPipes 2 years ago
my condolances he "is" really good!!!
GhostDye 2 years ago 2
@MooreBrothersPipes Well i hope he took his Pipes with him!!!
Albainn1 1 year ago
@MooreBrothersPipes I'm sorry to hear...... may he rest in peace
DimebagRIPCFH 10 months ago
@MooreBrothersPipes My condolences on the loss of your brother. We all miss him. May he live forever in G-D's good kingdom, and never be forgotten in the world of men.
dijacobi 9 months ago
The piob uilleann is the queen of the ballroom and the pub, and her song is merry. She sings to us "Be merry, and rejoice in my song", we dance to her song and forget the toils of the day . Just as the piob mor is the queen of the battlefield, and her cry is great and terrible. She sings "Rise up, children of the Gael! To arms! To battle!". And to her song we march upon our enemies, and then dance on their graves. So, the bagpipe is our instrument, a common heritage of all Gaelic people.
dijacobi 2 years ago
I find it strange that there has been such an effort to divide Gaelic piobaireacht into seperate Irish and Scottish traditions. This is as artificial as it it is ludicrous. The Gaelic language, poetry, music and dance are a common heritage that we share with our Scottish brothers. The English oppressed us all, and divided us into warring camps so that we would be easier to rule over. They raped our lands and murdered us, and even now we are still at each others throats; it is a dirty shame.
dijacobi 2 years ago 13
@dijacobi Piobaireachd is 100% Scottish!!! This is an ancient Scottish tradition, one of the oldest in Europe may i add, and there is nothing Irish about it whatsover!!! There is absolutely zero Piobaireachd that is found or has been ever recorded in Ireland!! It is solely and uniquely Scottish!!! I wish people wouldn't talk out of their arse all the time!!!
Albainn1 11 months ago
@dijacobi Your a fucking fool you arrogant prick!!! You can't divide Piobaireachd because its Scottish, its got no connection with Ireland whatsoever so stop trying to assimilate the two countries!!! Your as worse as the English oppression!!!
Albainn1 11 months ago
@Albainn1 And you my cousin, are quite ignorant. Your own words bear this out. The bagpipes are an ancient instrument that predates both Ireland or Scotland. They actually found an ancient pipe chanter in Iraq of all places! Piobaireacht in Gaelic means piping and refers to the full repertoire of the instrument (in Gaelic) . Music is not the property of any nation. Music is the property of the artist. In truth, the some of the greatest pipers were Scots, but Ireland has many pipers as well.
dijacobi 9 months ago
@dijacobi I find it even stranger that there are Plastic fucks who try to make the Scots and Irish as the same people, they try to make out that the Scots are all just Plastic Paddies and that Scottish tradition and culture are Irish when it's actually the other way around, the people who say this are brainwashed due to their 100 years of national Catholic propaganda.
Scots = Native Caledonian Picts.
Irish = Celt Gael Invaders from Iberia (modern Spain).
Scots and Irish are different!
segano1 8 months ago
@segano1 What nonsense! The Gaelic culture was documented by the Romans and was what gave birth to what you are calling Scotland and Ireland. The Picts were conquered by Miles in Ireland and by the Irish Ulstermen of Dal Riada in Roman times. The Scots and the Irish are mixed peoples. We are Pict, Gael, Norse, Norman, and unfortunately english. And there are even a few Tinkerfolk and Jews in there too. There are no pure races, that is reality. Sex is too fun for that I think ;) .
dijacobi 8 months ago
@dijacobi You take all your history on early Scotland's Pictish origins from an outside foreign enemy - The Romans and their Catholicism, which became propaganda material later on in Ireland.
"Ireland" was only given it's name in the 1600's by Pope Leo X.
Scotland is the oldest nation state in Europe with the oldest national flag in current use in the world.
Scotland had it's population thousands of years before Ireland and was a nation state hundreds of years before Ireland.
segano1 8 months ago
@segano1 SCOT = IRISMAN OLD LATIN YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVEN'T HEARD THE OLD SAYING ' A SCOTSMAN AN IRISHMAN WHO CAN SWIM ' !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Anyway what with calling us GAYLICK all the time, we get your point but it sounds really immature coming from somebody who's trying to uphold a so called educated debate.................
shambles7ful 8 months ago
@shambles7ful
"Scotti" = A latinised form of the ancient Greek word "Skoto" (Darkland), Latinised to "Scotti" by Latin speakers and re-defined as "Speakers of Gaelic" initially, which included the Caledonian Picts of Scotland who supported Gallack's (Irish language was pronounced "GAYLICK") religious association.
All Scotland's first kings were Picts, "ALBA" - Scotland's true name is a Pictish root word and still in use as is "Caledonia" - Scotland's poetic name.
segano1 7 months ago
@sh Con't..The Caledonian Picts (early Scots) regained back all their land, forged as one powerful kingdom - The Kingdom of Alba (ALBA a Pictish root word cognate of ALBION - entire isles ancient name). Kingdom of Scotland was an exact continuation of 'Kingdom of Alba', Scotland - used by the 900's onwards by Pictish king Constantine II, 'Scotti' Anglicised to "Scottish" & re-defined once again to mean Pirate, Raider & Predator of the time to describe all of Scotland, nothing to do with Ireland.
segano1 7 months ago
@dijacobi The Picts were never conquered, that's what national Catholic propaganda wants you to believe, Google "Irish tribesman the Scots did not come from Ireland" - click on first link.
The twelve years genetic research headed by Brian Sykes on his Blood of the isles book proved from 1996~2008 that the Scots today still retain their Pictish origins with the 'OGAP4' haplotype code.
The only culture that was Gaelic was the language.
Scots-Gaelic has elements of Pictish supplanted into it.
segano1 8 months ago
@segano1 I just finished reading Blood of the Isles,1 by Bryan Sykes of Oxford University. Sykes styles himself a genetic archaeologist, and in this book he spends as much time on the historiography and mythography of identity in Britain and Ireland as he does on interpretation of DNA tests. The result is a book that should be included as a text in any general survey history of the British Isles.......
gazzas46zs 5 months ago
It is the first history that uses genetic material as its primary data set, and it works very well, coming from a scholar with interests as well-rounded as Sykes. He outlines the way migrations to the Isles have been thought of, from the polemics of sixth century monks to the absurdities of nineteenth-century racists, sets out hypotheses based on the more reasonable theories, then tests them through data, separately for Ireland, Scotland, Wales, and England.
gazzas46zs 5 months ago
@segano1 The conclusion, and it is a very important step for our understanding of history to take, is that the British and Irish are basically one people, the same as they were when they settled the Isles from Spain as the ice receded, with only minor impact from the names that history records, Celts, Romans, Saxons, and Vikings. The impact of these peoples, genetic in part, was mostly cultural and historical. He also made out that Picts and the Gàidhlig are Celtic and that they are the same!!!
gazzas46zs 5 months ago
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gazzas46zs 5 months ago
@segano1 but arent the Irish and Scottish sharing a common ancestry? I mean from my understanding the Gauls were a celtic tribe that migrated from the Isles and I think that they all carry some origin with one another. All perhaps different tribes but Gaelic non the less. And honestly idk why people gotta fight about it when you were all fighting the same Allies and Ireland did come to you aid in the pursuit of freedom for both nations. God Bless brother. Good job too btw.
Peidmonte89 5 months ago
@Peidmonte89 No, they don't, the Irish came much later from invading Iberian Celts from where modern Spain is today, the Scots are by far and large Caledonian Picts of ancient Scotland. The whole myth is based on the theory of Dál Riata being a vagabond kingdom that moved from country to country but historians are coming to see that the Dál Riatans were in fact always indigenous to Scotland and it was the other way, they went to Antrim at the Northern tip of Ireland and held that as a part.
segano1 5 months ago
@Peidmonte89 The Irish are no more related to the Scots than the English or Welsh are, the only reason people think they are is because of so called 'similar culture', but this is because Irish republicans took Scottish identity from the early 1900's, look up the works of Irish revisionist myth makers like W.H. Grattan Flood and Henry Sarks for example, they invented a whole fake reality of Irish history to give it some kind of pedigree that it never had, they've since all been dis-proved.
segano1 5 months ago
@Peidmonte89 Scotland had one of the first forms of democratic freedom in the world, the Declaration of Arbroath (my birth town too), is in the Angus region ('Circinn' in Old Scots Pictish) just north of Tayside, and is hailed there as the birth place of Scotland, there are signs all around on the A9 stating so too, and that's the Northeast of Scotland.
segano1 5 months ago
@Peidmonte89 While Ireland has suffered at the hands of the English so much, particularly where Ireland's true identity of the lieann and Brat and flutes and harp were out lawed by England as Henry II wanted the Irish to become more English like, he believed that the less different the Irish were, the easier they would be to assimilate into English.
segano1 5 months ago
@Peidmonte89 The Uilleann pipes are a remake of Scottish Pipes, they were made by an Englishman in the 1880's, he took Scottish bagpipes and made a softer variation of them from it's original fierce Scottish sounding one, they were called 'Union pipes', it was later adopted by Irish republicans in the early 1900's to aid the Irish independence movement and try to promote Ireland as distinct, so they adopted Scottish identities like the Pipes and Tartans and dropped the original Irish flutes.
Calengela 5 months ago