Just who the fucking hell do you think you are you fucking moron. You cyclists are all prima donnas. self opinionated, arrogant, aggressive, beligerent, "I own the road" low IQ, poor upbringing, low level education and gay
haha! I just had an accident here this morning! tbh, the bus drivers really don't care so you gotta brake when you see them coming over otherwise you end up on the pavement like me :(
I hope you contacted the bus company, this driver needs a reminder before he kills someone. Cambridge if full of young bright students who's transportation is by bike, and a death is not what this country needs.
truck driver here -- please don't ever risk your life by thinking that the driver always sees you.
i will never forget the horror i felt when i carefully looked both ways, and then checked my mirrors -- but almost crushed and killed a chinese food deliveryman who slipped into my blind spot.
i wasn't rushing, and i wasn't trying to cut anyone off -- i diligently checked everything, then almost killed a man who zipped between me and the curb.
In that situation, as a bus driver myself, I would have stayed behind the cyclist. What is the point in overtaking the cyclist, only to be stuck at a set of lights. No point in doing extra work when there is no need. There are alot of decent cyclists that are professional and are considerate and use signals whenever needed and obide by the highway code. However, there are a few cyclists that cause misery for other road users and consequently make problems for them selves.
The actions of the bus driver here was irresponsible and careless because there was enough room ahead for him/her to safely clear your area before pulling into the left lane. I have driven a bus, I have driven a 7tonne truck and both vehicles have blind spots on them. But the fault here is the bus driver's because there was plenty of room ahead and there was no need for him/her to cut you off like they did, which nearly resulted in a collision.
The bus driver may aswell of stayed behind you mate surely he could see there was a red light up ahead and that there was no point in him overtaking and nearly putting you off yer bike, if the police had seen him do that he should of been pulled up and booked for careless driving.
im not a fan of winging cyclist on you tube, most seem to be so easily avoidable with a little hazard perception, however this was insane...a pointless race to get to the traffic lights... i feel for you!
1:The bus driver should not have cut the cyclist up under ANY circumstances. At the very least the bus should have held back & allowed the bike to proceed ahead of him safely.
2:As above.
3:As 1 & 2.
Im a bus driver & there is NO excuse for what I just witnessed here...end of!
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ok, just a couple of things, do your brakes work, if so why dod you not use them, and did you know obstructing a bus from the cousere or exexution of its duty is also illegal which makes you just as bad as the bus driver, which i am not completely saying he was wrong, it just needs a bit of give or take from both sides, i meet plenty of stupid cyclists messing with buses, and as a bus driver myself and cyclists cause me too much trouble. do you undertake buses? or have u driven one?
Always pleased to see comments from bus drivers on these bus / cyclist videos. I agree about give and take, it's impossible to move around without causing inconvenience to others to some extent and this is a two way thing. The cyclist did slow down when it became clear what was happening but the unnecessary manoeuvre by the bus shouldn't have happened when it did, should it? Head on scenarios with buses overtaking parked cars towards a cyclist worry me more than what happened in this vid.
@mailpauljonescouk lol your at fault, when picking up or take off bus have the absoute priority, you where at the wrong place...again complaining on small thing ...your life must suck a bunch
@mailpauljonescouk you know i could see that bus getting closer as you moved to the curb so why didn't you just slow down? you could see the bus getting closer because you did move closer to the curb so why keep at speed letting the bus get to close making you hit your hand on the bus?
you dumb ass, that wouldnt stand up in court, clearly it was an irisponsible manouver from the bus driver. Answers to questions. 1. well think about it, were are the cycle lanes on the roads? question answered i feel. 2. Precisely we havent driven buses therefore we leave it to the supposed experts, besides whether or not he has driven a buss does not change the fact that it was a shit manouver.
bottom line bikes should have number plates, insurance, mot etc, there vehicles, at the end of the day they would catch dumb asses, you probably ride like one, so why not just go forth and multiply, and use your brain
Have you been on a bike and been in the cyclists shoes? I have been on plenty of busses in my time as a passenger and pretty much 99.9% of the drivers dont make this driver's mistake.
The cyclist is going about his lawful activities here, stop being a strawman. He has not obstructed the bus, the driver is obligated under UK law to execute a safe overtake and one that is necessary. It was neither here.
All the driver had to do is wait until the lights change and overtake safely then
from a fellow bus driver: you need your eyes examined OR you've just got the WRONG attitude. There are plenty of idiot cyclists out there BUT that was one idiot bus driver there, or are you blind??
@billybop65 My eyes are fine thanks. Read my post again when you are sober and it should make more sense to you. Or ask someone who can read to tell you what it says but make sure they do it slowly so you can understand.
@iib8903 "obstructing a bus from the cousere or exexution of its duty is also illegal which makes you just as bad as the bus driver"
That's hardly relevant to a situation like this. A bus doesn't have the legal right to overtake someone (car, cyclist or otherwise) and force them off the road to get to the bus stop.
@iib8903 Obstructing a bus from the execution of its duty doesn't extend to "simply driving/cycling along a road and happening to be between a bus and a bus stop".
@iib8903 The point is that the bus driver really wouldn't have lost more than two or three seconds had he simply waited for the cyclist to pass the bus stop, instead of overtaking and pulling in with the cyclist still on his side. Of course there should be give and take, but this is all take from the bus driver from the cyclist's point of view. I cycle a lot in London and thankfully the bus drivers seem to be very aware of the dangers of this, but when they do it I nearly have a heart attack
A911SYE: Very pleased to have your comments here. I've tried the new bridge layout cycling going out of town and find this much better than before. Very impressed with this change. Does it work OK when you're driving a bus there?
Never pull in on a cyclist too soon, you run them over and they get stuck between your twins. Pull in later and brake hard. Much more fun. Besides, why aren't you on the pavement pestering pedestrians like the other mongs?
liverpoolkidreece - The bus was not indicating to pull over and there was no bus stop. And even if it had been, it was the drivers bad judgement to overtake when he was going to pull in immediately - the cyclist did slow down to avoid being crushed! At least WATCH the video if you're going to comment.
The most likely explanation seems that most cyclists go about at 10mph, and those who do nothing else than cycle all day long, go 20mph or more regularily.
Maybe the bus driver got surprised about the high speed of the cyclist.
Hmm yes, doing more than 5mph does seem to surprise stupid and unobservant and impatient drivers. Regardless, you dont have to "do nothing else all day long" to happily reach 15-20mph on a bike - just being vaguely fit will do it easily. I'm trying to work out why you're going from vid to vid (poorly) defending bad driving? Regardless of vehicle, any bad driving should be highlighted for the danger that it is to everyone.
First of all, I'm not going vid by vid, since I post a lot more on other videos also; I like it. Second, I'm against bad driving, thats why I think this cyclist is not behaving well in some of these videos
You seem to be out to blame the cyclist at any opportunity, rather than taking a balanced view. Though I suppose you could say the same of me, as I've yet to see anything the cyclist did that was wrong under UK law.
In this video for example is hard for anyone to say what happened. My best bet would be that the bus driver simply didnt know he was there. I doubt he had intentions of murdering anyone.
There is nothing in this vid that the cyclist did wrong anyway. In some other videos a police officer watching them would probably have a thing to two to discipline the cyclist about.
Oh I agree the bus driver probably didn't set out to kill anyone, but having that second just overtaken the bike I'd hope to god he knew he was there otherwise he shouldnt be driving at all. Its just a simple case of dangerous driving on the bus drivers part, failing to observe properly.
As for the other vid you commented on regarding police watching, I think you'll find everything in that vid was legal too, 2 cars *pulled out on him*, the ped didn't even look but bike avoided.
I dont even remember what the video was, I just remember him driving all over the road in and out of traffic etc.
Still, I drive a bicycle and sometimes I drive it very fast. I usually try to get out of the way of large vehicles if I can because I'd rather be alive than right.
Very true, being alive is a good thing :) Unfortunately some people on bikes are less capable of dodging dangerous traffic, as countless numbers of people crushed at junctions by buses and wagons will show. Regardless of what the cyclist does to avoid it, the driver is a bad one in this case and thats why its being highlighted I guess.
bikes should be forced to take a test before they go on the road! bikes so dangerous on the roads i have had many bikes run red lights not give way at roundabouts come out in front of me and they hardly ever indicate! it is hard to see bikes and you should give this driver a break as he is driving a large vehicle and every driver makes mistakes! maybe you should look at your road manners before you comment on someone elses! everyone has bad days and it is out of order to post this onto you tube
This sort of mistake could kill someone. The bus overtook the cyclist how on earth could he have not seen him? He knew he was going to stop, why not wait?
When these 'dangerous' cyclists you worry about start killing 3000+ people a year like cars and lorries do then I might have some sympathy for you.
I must have missed the bit in the clip where the cyclist demonstrated bad road manners, seemed like he was cycling along minding his own business. Perhaps you commented on the wrong clip?
maybe you should have read it properly i didnt say he was right i just said it is out of order to post this on youtube n cyclist can kill because if a motorist has to break all of a sudden and another car hits him! there should be more bike lanes as they are clearly 2 much of a hazard and i never said he demonstrated bad road manners im saying a lot of cyclists you come across have bad road manners and by saying maybe you should look at your road manners i was saying everyone not just him!
Beside the dscription of typically widesprad cur driver's behavious your writing blah blah blah lot of hot air, emziangel'89. Maybe you should go into politics, telling rubhish, but that all the time qualifies you...
why are we judging when we wasnt there and have no idea wot happened before and after this clip! we dont know the man n im sure if u was the victim who was put on youtube you would b fed up 2! is it such a bad place that we now cyle round with a camera! if i did that in a car i would find lots of things people do wrong! but i dont because its wrong! we all make mistakes sometimes we r only human! accidents happen! so quick to judge you are now starting on me!
I had enough highly dangerous situations while bicyclling ma everydays way to and from work (2 x 6,5km) through Vienna Austria. I was driving absolutely correct, but was repeadadly cut in most dangerous ways, often even without any signalling. That behavior (sometimes not thinking, sometimes simply rude, sometimes due to greed onto the speed of the bikes (while the car-lanes were jammed up) iks so widespread, I'd have bought a small cam, if years ago that would have been that chaep...
Sonethings more: Narrow overtake, and than the right hook (in Austria we drive on the right side, likewise in 99% of the world), that is terrible dangerous, particularly when done by big vehicles, like a bus ar a truck. I was overtaken by a speeding bus (town, 70 instead of 50kph), so close, that I felt the mirror streaking over the tips of my hair, and the bus itself 5cm from the handlebar (there was more than enough space to do a correct overtake...)
How could the bus driver not have seen the cyclist? The cyclist was in front of the bus driver, as the bus had to overtake, on the road, if you're telling me the bus driver 'probably' couldn't see the cyclist, why was he drinving in the first place? Being unable to observe the road ahead, shouldn't be driving at all.
@ tomismilankovic... he has a RIGHT to be on the road regardless of your opinion about "engines belonging on the road" this video is to show the risks involved. why people like you always give abuse to cyclists i havent a clue, he has a right to use the roads just like anybody else, you dont see in a highway code NOT to look for cyclists because its fairly obvious for cyclists to use the roads & not risk the safety of pedestrians.. so grow up, get a life, stop being a twat and lighten up.
tomismilankovic: Youz fucking bloody fag of a moron should be simply killed... Easy and fast solotion for things like you spoinling the genepool of mankind.
Agreed not all bus drivers are crap, in fact I take pride in the fact ive been trained to a proffesional standard! I speak for many other drivers when I say that we take pride in professional driving. On the flip side there are some wanker cyclists too. a 19 tonne bus is VERY hard to stop when a bike zips out and weaves all over the road. Swings and roundabouts im afraid!
I have just this minute been giving a bus driver a piece of my mind what a prick there all the same he made me drive on pavemnt as i was overtaking so im reporting his appauling behaviour hope he loses his job if i see him again in the street ill kick his ass, wanker. if that was me in vid i would have gone and made official complaint when the fuck has it been ok to swerve at someone or overtaking?? with a bus full of people low life gggggggrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Im a bus driver myself and that was shocking...hope you reported him. Im also a mountain biker and cyclist. Good vid..highlights the bad ones out there!
I ride a bike AND drive a bus (though not at the same time obviously) so I'm in the ideal position to tell you who was wrong. In this case the bus driver was as he cut the cyclist up after passing him. Most bus drivers and cyclists are good at what they do, but as is to be expected, there is a small minority who let everyone else down. So 'cheers' to the mindless arseholes and get off the road you twats!
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a little tip.. if the lights are red, stop pedalling, you will save yourself some puff, not wear out your brakes, and your safety rating for cycling will improve vastly. There was no reason to ride up to the lights as agressively as you did. Then having a go at the bus driver was just threatening behaviour and you should be prosecuted for it. we can't have people going around being agressive to others. It's the road, not a boxing ring.
I have had this happen, through a pinch-point (ped crossing). The bus very nearly killed me, I was bloody furious. Made a complaint to his manager and got him a bollocking (hopefully).
why is it the worst thing to do. It tells the driver what he has done wrong and he is less likely to do it again be it out of embrassesment or something else
It really demonstrates how bicyclist are out of touch with the traffic they have to share the space with. They seem to confuse being a pedestrian with what they are doing and it's really an attitude that will continue to contribute being a hazard on wheels. Riding on sidewalks, on crosswalks, against traffic, crossing in front of traffic when it's not safe is out of the question. In Los Angeles, California we have designated bike ways, painted bike lanes shared with parked cars.
What are you talking about? The guy was on the road and the bus cut him up! I think you'll find it's the bus driver who's out of touch with his immediate surroundings...
Try driving a Bus when a small item starts buzzing around in your outside mirror and you have other objects you have to avoid so that you don't flatten the bike rider! Bike riders don't feel they are doing anything wrong but they don't think of what the other drivers have to do to keep from having a serious accident with them. I don't think anyone interviewed the driver to get the whole story!
How about checking your mirror before you move in after overtaking something? You wouldn't overtake a car then pull back in before the end of the bus was past it, so why do it to a cyclist?
i say this as a bus driver for stagecoach, and a keen cyclist. i agree that this drivers actions are shocking! but, going kinda off subject, shouldnt cyclists b forced to pay tax, or at least, insurance, to be allowed to use the public roads? horse riders too!
As it happens, the cyclist in the video does pay road tax, he just prefers to cycle when possible. How about renaming road tax into environmental damage penalty charge or something more appropriate?
Why? The number of accidents actually caused by cyclists or pedestrians is miniscule compared to those caused by "trained" motorists. I'm NOT saying that all cyclists are angels and all motorists are bad -- but there seems to be a lot of anecdotal evidence that cyclists cause accidents which is not actually backed up by reality. Also -- at what age should such compulsory insurance kick in? If its such a problem why isn't it compulsory already? Where is any evidence it would work or is needed?
So the cyclist in this video pays road tax, they are lucky not to have to rely on a car.
I presumme they grow their own food, generate their own power, make their own clothes etc. Stop being so smug, cycling only lessens your impact. EDPC has a ring to it, ideal for leading mug punters in whatever tangent the government bounces off in.
Are you sure your arguing with the correct person ? The majority of cycle component are manufactured in the far east, and increasingly China, the most polluting country at present and for the forseable future.
I'm asking -- not arguing -- it's just that I often hear that cyclist's have no right to be on the road because they don't pay road tax -- when it's pointed out that ved is not hypothecated, and that we all pay for roads, or that ved is now emissions based, cyclists are then accused of somehow being smug -- I just don't get it.
You have a good point about manufacturing, and bicycle manufacturing and transportation certainly does have an environmental cost, along with pretty much everything else. I am not anti car, but compare the whole lifecycle (no pun intended) of a bicycle verses a car.
I think we are now getting to some middle ground. Motorists are now treated like leppers by some sections of the community, and I would agree that changing ones car every few years is bad, but surely its up to our elected leaders to impose standards on the manufacturers that transport should have a sensible lifespan. (and we dont all pay income tax, just workers) I dont have a problem with cyclists (being one myself)
But I do have a problem with the vast majority of Edinburgh cyclists who appear to have no concept of road manners. Today 11/03/08 I was privelaged to see a twat in trousers and a kilt meander through two sets of red lights within the space of 100m. My issue is that when I cycle I get the flack and abuse/frustration from the general public.
I agree. I get the same flack regarding other cyclists poor road skills - and, as both cyclist and motorist, I find it interesting how all cyclists are tarred with the same brush, but poor driver behaviour is somehow accepted... re the tax
I think one of the reasons cyclists and motorists are treated in quite different fashions is that if anyone feels agreaved by a motorists actions thier number can be reported. However when have you ever heard of a cyclist being held to account for their behaviour ? (I can only think of a single instant when a person was killed quite recently by a cyclist on a pavement. And they received a reduced sentenence as they were not deamed to be fully responsible for their actions.)
Smellycar & Nicperry I concur. I'm in Los Angeles California where we have bicycle laws and ordinances that are totally ignored. In the 70's I road a bicycle and joined a bike touring group and at our meetings we would learn about situations like this and the work a rounds. The organization was responsible for public outreach and transit publications. Since then it's all being ignored and I think these people need a licence. They should be regulated!!!
Unfortunately, you'll find that this has also happened in a lot of deaths where the motorist is at fault. A simple fine and a ban. Everybody that uses the roads should show consideration and respect to other users. That's what I do. I'm a cyclist, and I get pissed off at many Edinburgh cyclists as well. But I shouldn't be held responsible for the actions of others. I've recently used the bus due to illness. Watching the drivers on Lothian Road is an Eye opener. Jumping red lights.
(Cont)driving on to box junctions without allowing them to clear. Stand outside Woolies near Fountainbridge. It's an eye opener. And I'm not just talking about plebs. Bus divers are pretty bad as well. They're professionals. They should know better. I know that this sounds like a rant against motorists, but it isn't really. It just gets rather frustrating at times. There's this constant backwards and forwards with very little common ground reached.
Smellycar. You'll be pleased to hear that I saw two cyclists get booked for red light jumping last Thursday. It was near the big Boots on Princes Street. Serves them right. Whether, cyclist or motorist. You break the rules, you should be bear the consequences.
are you trying to call me a dick or are you just a fool? by the way this preson on the bike was commiting a crime the moment he blocked a public service vehicles path GET A JOB INSTEAD OF GOING ROUND WITH A BIKE AND CAMERA YOU WENT LOOKING FOR TROUBLE THAT DAY AND YOU KNOW YOU DID STOP HINDERING PUBLIC TRANSPORT
thats does not look like a cycle lane to me the driver was wrong to cut you up but blocking the busess path was wrong as was hitting the bus you should have given this footage to stagecoach who would have delt with it and the driver would have got a dp i would love to have seen what happend before this
My mistake 846146176717 -- you're right, it's not a bus lane, I got confused with another clip - sorry, but I still don't think cyclist was committing a crime -- I'm sure paul can tell you what happened before...
I was a second or two ahead of the bus from the railway station all the way to where the video starts, a distance of over 500 metres, with a single traffic light stop in between. Odd then that the driver apparently forgets I exist after passing me.
Im a bus driver for stagecoach and one of my best mates is a cyclist as hes at cambridge uni...usually id stick up for the driver but in this case he was a fuckwit not checking his mirror properly and its good that you challenged him about it...did you go and make a complaint?...even better fall off your bike and sue stagecoach!...they're a shit as employers!
in dublin cyclists do very little to help themselves especially on dark nights . no lights , no helmets, no high vis jackets , they wear dark clothes . it surprises me that more cyclists are'nt hurt or worse in this city . thats does not excuse moronic driving . as i drive my car for a living i see a lot of that too .
What a prat bus driver at the same time you can't help but think in a nation that puts cycle lanes in bus lanes-not in this case-but in Manchester, the roads are doomed to incidents such as these.
Taxi drivers and bus drivers are the killers in cambridge, i've seen a lot of scary stuff from these drivers, the taxi's are the worst they have no regard for people or their lives!
I think you're more likely to get killed by a lorry than a bus or taxi. I find most buses and taxis are driven well but there are exceptions and some road layouts increase the chance of conflict.
Hardest thing for drivers is to cope with weaving cyclists and motor cyclists.
I would always prefer to keep buses in front of me....that way I know where they are.And if I'm local, then I know where their bus stops are and can progress my journey accordingly...
There's no excuse here Paul, the fat oaf saw you to overtake you and it is inexcusable that he did not check his mirror to pull back in.Bus drivers, mini cab drivers an dlorries are the shite-est on the road and if they do this sort of shit to cars they aren't gonna blink when doing it to a cyclist.Top Tip:don't stop and ask him "why did you do that" in a ponsey voice,just push his wing mirror in and call him something like what NickPerry68 calls people in his messages!
What a typical comment from an idiot. Obviously the fault of the driver in this instance , but the ignorance to tar all in the trade of driving. Of course there arent cyclists who ride reclessly are there? Sounds like you have little road experience at all.
Driving license one day after 17th birthday - clean license and a garage full of cars that Clarkeson would masturbate over.... also a dry sense of humour and using You Tube to make angry people like you burst a vein! tarra xxxx
Angry??? Nope sorry to disappoint you. But I forgot, its impossible to hold discussion with ignorance or arrogance, No need to make any other reply as you have made your self known to fall into these categories. Paul is trying to raise awareness not silly comments.
Wot an ignorant response! Of course the bus was at fault, but hey, cyclists are amongst the worst law breakers on the roads! Many ride at night without lights and few observe red traffic lights, so lets put this into perspective. To say all bus/lorry/taxis are bad drivers is just an ill-informed and ignorant response from someone with little or no common sense or experience of life
he's a crap drivers who can control such a large vehicle. I know it was the drivers fualt, but the cyclist should slowed down rapidly as it he risked being knocked off by the bus by continueing pedaling. Its annoying i know, but the safest thing the cyclist could done was stopped
A quick addition to clarify, The foul language replies mentioned above sounds like I am saying you have left them, my appologies, badly put, I mean the foul languaged replies left by others posters are left.
Well, there's been very little editorial control re content of posts but lots of work's gone into capturing and presenting the videos for comment. Ultimately, if a single user tries to dominate by posting & posting again with similar ideas, the limit of editorial tolerance is exceeded.
My final word on this situation which you may feel to remove "Poster". You say"the limit of editorial tollerance is exceeded" I personaly see it as censorship of one persons opinions even if seen as dominating to air there view. They were not rude at any time which in todays society is commendable. A shame you have seen it this way as good points have been aired that I had overlooked.
The reason I know who one of these people is, is I have seen several of his posts removed one stating his previous ID had been blocked ( I will not name names) but I believe he put across some very good observations about road safety from many angles as I believe a driver of different sorts of vehicles and also a cyclist himself. My appologies if this is a smallrant but I beleive in freedom of speech & opinion.
As this will be removed within hours I hope many people read this as this is the most viewded clip. The poster claims these clips are open for discussion your own views,yet if you post too many comments he doesnt like YOU WILL BE BLOCKED. This I think proves the type of view this person wants showing is only in his favour.
Indeed 2 users have been blocked since the site opened several months ago after leaving excessive numbers of unbalanced comments without contributing significantly to the discussion.
if i were u... i dunno if u did this or not, but i'd of requested the doors of the bus to open, and i'd of blimmin got on, and gave him a clip round the ear, and a good talking to. maybe more than just a clip round the ear, depending on how sorry he was. lol
If had camera every time that happened... The Public Carriage office would get about three complaints a day. Often I tell cabbies their indicators 'aren't working' or remind them that it's Mirror, Signal THEN Maneouvre.
i always think of a TOP TIP from Viz a few years back:
Taxi drivers, when next at the garage, ask the mechanic to check the indicators are working
I hope the driver's employer has been made aware of this video evidence, the driver should be placed into any disciplinary procedures the company operates.
Well done Paul for keeping your cool! I would have jumped on board and ripped his stupid fucking head off. No excuse for being a total knob head bus driver.
I bet he has cyclists stickers on his cab door. Hope you got apology from Stagecoach.
OK, i have criticised a couple of your videos before. But i come from a slightly different perspective, i am a regular bike rider, i drive a car and am also fully licenced to drive HGVs (which is what i do for a living) However, i would like to say that the driving standards demonstarated by the bus driver are appalling and dangerous. I have a simple rule, If i look in a mirror and i dont see a cyclist - I wonder where he is. not if he's there.
It's not only cyclists bus drivers treat like ****. I've lost count of the number of times I've had to brake or maneuver to avoid busses, including bus drivers choosing not to use their mirrors and just blithely pulling out in front of me, sometimes when I'm already along side them. And those "special" few bus drivers who choose to stop at roundabouts.
how does a rider on a bike treat a bus driver and his 3 ton death machine like "shite"? i ride in the streets here in the states and see the same crap. i HAVE to respect buses or i DIE. a lot of bus drivers don't feel they have to respect ANYTHING, and of course, their lives are in no danger.
Just who the fucking hell do you think you are you fucking moron. You cyclists are all prima donnas. self opinionated, arrogant, aggressive, beligerent, "I own the road" low IQ, poor upbringing, low level education and gay
labyonnette 2 months ago
haha! I just had an accident here this morning! tbh, the bus drivers really don't care so you gotta brake when you see them coming over otherwise you end up on the pavement like me :(
dainbranage 5 months ago
i don't understand
why these bicyclists
video their own deaths.
john123wayne 6 months ago
On the back of some buses they still have an engine emergency shut down button.
Well worth pushing if a driver cuts you up like that again.
captainzapppp 6 months ago 2
Bad driving!!!!!!!!!!!
I hope you contacted the bus company, this driver needs a reminder before he kills someone. Cambridge if full of young bright students who's transportation is by bike, and a death is not what this country needs.
EinkOLED 7 months ago
truck driver here -- please don't ever risk your life by thinking that the driver always sees you.
i will never forget the horror i felt when i carefully looked both ways, and then checked my mirrors -- but almost crushed and killed a chinese food deliveryman who slipped into my blind spot.
i wasn't rushing, and i wasn't trying to cut anyone off -- i diligently checked everything, then almost killed a man who zipped between me and the curb.
bike safely. Godspeed to you.
gaydanzig 10 months ago 3
Looks like the bus is at fault to me. Coming alongside another vehicle just to squeeze it out is just plain wrong.
It would be different if the cyclist had come alongside the bus from behind, but that wasn't the case here.
psteverific 1 year ago
In that situation, as a bus driver myself, I would have stayed behind the cyclist. What is the point in overtaking the cyclist, only to be stuck at a set of lights. No point in doing extra work when there is no need. There are alot of decent cyclists that are professional and are considerate and use signals whenever needed and obide by the highway code. However, there are a few cyclists that cause misery for other road users and consequently make problems for them selves.
1100HondaCB 1 year ago
bus is big, its moving many people
bike small, moving one wanker
bus was probably stuck behind cycle for a while and got upset
PlebScrubber 1 year ago
this is why i take the bus instead
hybridz10 1 year ago
I guess mirrors are just an accessory on this bus.
ATBparkour 1 year ago
when ever you se a bus slow the fuck down and keep out there way...simple
ideasoner 1 year ago
The actions of the bus driver here was irresponsible and careless because there was enough room ahead for him/her to safely clear your area before pulling into the left lane. I have driven a bus, I have driven a 7tonne truck and both vehicles have blind spots on them. But the fault here is the bus driver's because there was plenty of room ahead and there was no need for him/her to cut you off like they did, which nearly resulted in a collision.
60008vagos 1 year ago
The bus driver may aswell of stayed behind you mate surely he could see there was a red light up ahead and that there was no point in him overtaking and nearly putting you off yer bike, if the police had seen him do that he should of been pulled up and booked for careless driving.
Trainbuff2008 1 year ago
im not a fan of winging cyclist on you tube, most seem to be so easily avoidable with a little hazard perception, however this was insane...a pointless race to get to the traffic lights... i feel for you!
ashwallace1987 1 year ago
Looks like the bus driver tried to kill you. I would have hopped in the bus, and punched him in the mouth.
CommanderKairu 1 year ago
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I bet you're wearing Lance Pants. Slower vehicles should yield, so get over it.
adrenatek 1 year ago
i think in cambridge there is some anger towards bike riders,this comes from buses and sometimes taxis-god knows why
WILKO50 2 years ago
good on ya mate, you tell those f'ing bus drivers
hills road bridge is a nightmare
tom
02tweeks 2 years ago 3
1:The bus driver should not have cut the cyclist up under ANY circumstances. At the very least the bus should have held back & allowed the bike to proceed ahead of him safely.
2:As above.
3:As 1 & 2.
Im a bus driver & there is NO excuse for what I just witnessed here...end of!
billybop65 2 years ago 3
Bike right...Bus wrong..end of...
chatty31 2 years ago 3
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stop crying buy a car you knob .cuming from a driver off 4 wheels
matty123429 2 years ago
what the fuck, thats an asshole bus driver! he couldnt just wait the extra 5 seconds and stop behind this guy?
VladimatorMushuPork 2 years ago 3
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ok, just a couple of things, do your brakes work, if so why dod you not use them, and did you know obstructing a bus from the cousere or exexution of its duty is also illegal which makes you just as bad as the bus driver, which i am not completely saying he was wrong, it just needs a bit of give or take from both sides, i meet plenty of stupid cyclists messing with buses, and as a bus driver myself and cyclists cause me too much trouble. do you undertake buses? or have u driven one?
iib8903 2 years ago
Always pleased to see comments from bus drivers on these bus / cyclist videos. I agree about give and take, it's impossible to move around without causing inconvenience to others to some extent and this is a two way thing. The cyclist did slow down when it became clear what was happening but the unnecessary manoeuvre by the bus shouldn't have happened when it did, should it? Head on scenarios with buses overtaking parked cars towards a cyclist worry me more than what happened in this vid.
mailpauljonescouk 2 years ago 10
@mailpauljonescouk lol your at fault, when picking up or take off bus have the absoute priority, you where at the wrong place...again complaining on small thing ...your life must suck a bunch
CedrikTheManiac00 1 year ago
@mailpauljonescouk you know i could see that bus getting closer as you moved to the curb so why didn't you just slow down? you could see the bus getting closer because you did move closer to the curb so why keep at speed letting the bus get to close making you hit your hand on the bus?
bryruncorn 9 months ago
you dumb ass, that wouldnt stand up in court, clearly it was an irisponsible manouver from the bus driver. Answers to questions. 1. well think about it, were are the cycle lanes on the roads? question answered i feel. 2. Precisely we havent driven buses therefore we leave it to the supposed experts, besides whether or not he has driven a buss does not change the fact that it was a shit manouver.
tockclimber 2 years ago 2
bottom line bikes should have number plates, insurance, mot etc, there vehicles, at the end of the day they would catch dumb asses, you probably ride like one, so why not just go forth and multiply, and use your brain
iib8903 2 years ago
@iib
Have you been on a bike and been in the cyclists shoes? I have been on plenty of busses in my time as a passenger and pretty much 99.9% of the drivers dont make this driver's mistake.
The cyclist is going about his lawful activities here, stop being a strawman. He has not obstructed the bus, the driver is obligated under UK law to execute a safe overtake and one that is necessary. It was neither here.
All the driver had to do is wait until the lights change and overtake safely then
downfader2 2 years ago 2
from a fellow bus driver: you need your eyes examined OR you've just got the WRONG attitude. There are plenty of idiot cyclists out there BUT that was one idiot bus driver there, or are you blind??
billybop65 2 years ago 15
@billybop65 My eyes are fine thanks. Read my post again when you are sober and it should make more sense to you. Or ask someone who can read to tell you what it says but make sure they do it slowly so you can understand.
JchaosM 1 year ago
@iib8903 What you're basically saying is, "the bus is in front now, slow down or be crushed"
A bus should always make sure that they can fully overtake a bicycle before attempting an overtake.
I've had bus drivers do this to me too, start to pull back towards the curb when you're next to their back wheel. It's frightening.
This is a case of dangrous driving
Cliffjumper24 1 year ago
@iib8903 "obstructing a bus from the cousere or exexution of its duty is also illegal which makes you just as bad as the bus driver"
That's hardly relevant to a situation like this. A bus doesn't have the legal right to overtake someone (car, cyclist or otherwise) and force them off the road to get to the bus stop.
blandflabbis 1 year ago
@blandflabbis Yea it is, cyclists should get off the road, and force them off the road.... i dont think so
iib8903 1 year ago
@iib8903 Obstructing a bus from the execution of its duty doesn't extend to "simply driving/cycling along a road and happening to be between a bus and a bus stop".
blandflabbis 1 year ago
@iib8903 The point is that the bus driver really wouldn't have lost more than two or three seconds had he simply waited for the cyclist to pass the bus stop, instead of overtaking and pulling in with the cyclist still on his side. Of course there should be give and take, but this is all take from the bus driver from the cyclist's point of view. I cycle a lot in London and thankfully the bus drivers seem to be very aware of the dangers of this, but when they do it I nearly have a heart attack
squashballferg 9 months ago
I have seen experienced bus drivers do exactly that, A911SYE. Works wonders!
:-D
downfader2 2 years ago
A911SYE: Very pleased to have your comments here. I've tried the new bridge layout cycling going out of town and find this much better than before. Very impressed with this change. Does it work OK when you're driving a bus there?
mailpauljonescouk 2 years ago
here's a tip mate, if a bus gets that close give the brakes a squeeze and drop back a bit
burnzy3210 2 years ago
You could see him decelerating so its only right to assume he did.
downfader2 2 years ago
Never pull in on a cyclist too soon, you run them over and they get stuck between your twins. Pull in later and brake hard. Much more fun. Besides, why aren't you on the pavement pestering pedestrians like the other mongs?
chazsmateII 2 years ago
what do you expexct the bus was taking you over and you maintained your speed when the bus was inidicating to pull over (to a bus stop?)
liverpoolkidreece 2 years ago
liverpoolkidreece - The bus was not indicating to pull over and there was no bus stop. And even if it had been, it was the drivers bad judgement to overtake when he was going to pull in immediately - the cyclist did slow down to avoid being crushed! At least WATCH the video if you're going to comment.
CoyoteBoyUK 2 years ago 3
lazy bus driver did not want to knock down the gears and put the breaks on to slow down what the fk do they pay him for, hope he looses his licence
fireicer 2 years ago
The most likely explanation seems that most cyclists go about at 10mph, and those who do nothing else than cycle all day long, go 20mph or more regularily.
Maybe the bus driver got surprised about the high speed of the cyclist.
latuman 2 years ago
Hmm yes, doing more than 5mph does seem to surprise stupid and unobservant and impatient drivers. Regardless, you dont have to "do nothing else all day long" to happily reach 15-20mph on a bike - just being vaguely fit will do it easily. I'm trying to work out why you're going from vid to vid (poorly) defending bad driving? Regardless of vehicle, any bad driving should be highlighted for the danger that it is to everyone.
CoyoteBoyUK 2 years ago 2
First of all, I'm not going vid by vid, since I post a lot more on other videos also; I like it. Second, I'm against bad driving, thats why I think this cyclist is not behaving well in some of these videos
latuman 2 years ago
You seem to be out to blame the cyclist at any opportunity, rather than taking a balanced view. Though I suppose you could say the same of me, as I've yet to see anything the cyclist did that was wrong under UK law.
CoyoteBoyUK 2 years ago
In this video for example is hard for anyone to say what happened. My best bet would be that the bus driver simply didnt know he was there. I doubt he had intentions of murdering anyone.
There is nothing in this vid that the cyclist did wrong anyway. In some other videos a police officer watching them would probably have a thing to two to discipline the cyclist about.
latuman 2 years ago
Oh I agree the bus driver probably didn't set out to kill anyone, but having that second just overtaken the bike I'd hope to god he knew he was there otherwise he shouldnt be driving at all. Its just a simple case of dangerous driving on the bus drivers part, failing to observe properly.
As for the other vid you commented on regarding police watching, I think you'll find everything in that vid was legal too, 2 cars *pulled out on him*, the ped didn't even look but bike avoided.
CoyoteBoyUK 2 years ago
I dont even remember what the video was, I just remember him driving all over the road in and out of traffic etc.
Still, I drive a bicycle and sometimes I drive it very fast. I usually try to get out of the way of large vehicles if I can because I'd rather be alive than right.
latuman 2 years ago
Very true, being alive is a good thing :) Unfortunately some people on bikes are less capable of dodging dangerous traffic, as countless numbers of people crushed at junctions by buses and wagons will show. Regardless of what the cyclist does to avoid it, the driver is a bad one in this case and thats why its being highlighted I guess.
CoyoteBoyUK 2 years ago
Whoah that was close, BTW why do some of you hate cyclists?
Electric77887 2 years ago
"why did you........just move in there........hey"
coz you need to get a new hobby as this one is going to get you killed, you are play with life and need to get some help
hcooperme 2 years ago
Lol thats funny
ronjaefadf24 2 years ago
After watching that clip I am now detertimined to be a bus driver, so I can do this for myself. muahahahaha
Stagecoach, best by far.
JoelTheStig 2 years ago
so im not the only one
ronjaefadf24 2 years ago
hills road cambridge!!:D
ardley216 2 years ago
bikes should be forced to take a test before they go on the road! bikes so dangerous on the roads i have had many bikes run red lights not give way at roundabouts come out in front of me and they hardly ever indicate! it is hard to see bikes and you should give this driver a break as he is driving a large vehicle and every driver makes mistakes! maybe you should look at your road manners before you comment on someone elses! everyone has bad days and it is out of order to post this onto you tube
emziangel1989 2 years ago
This sort of mistake could kill someone. The bus overtook the cyclist how on earth could he have not seen him? He knew he was going to stop, why not wait?
When these 'dangerous' cyclists you worry about start killing 3000+ people a year like cars and lorries do then I might have some sympathy for you.
I must have missed the bit in the clip where the cyclist demonstrated bad road manners, seemed like he was cycling along minding his own business. Perhaps you commented on the wrong clip?
zenfarion 2 years ago 2
maybe you should have read it properly i didnt say he was right i just said it is out of order to post this on youtube n cyclist can kill because if a motorist has to break all of a sudden and another car hits him! there should be more bike lanes as they are clearly 2 much of a hazard and i never said he demonstrated bad road manners im saying a lot of cyclists you come across have bad road manners and by saying maybe you should look at your road manners i was saying everyone not just him!
emziangel1989 2 years ago
Beside the dscription of typically widesprad cur driver's behavious your writing blah blah blah lot of hot air, emziangel'89. Maybe you should go into politics, telling rubhish, but that all the time qualifies you...
Lightningchase1973 2 years ago
why are we judging when we wasnt there and have no idea wot happened before and after this clip! we dont know the man n im sure if u was the victim who was put on youtube you would b fed up 2! is it such a bad place that we now cyle round with a camera! if i did that in a car i would find lots of things people do wrong! but i dont because its wrong! we all make mistakes sometimes we r only human! accidents happen! so quick to judge you are now starting on me!
emziangel1989 2 years ago
I had enough highly dangerous situations while bicyclling ma everydays way to and from work (2 x 6,5km) through Vienna Austria. I was driving absolutely correct, but was repeadadly cut in most dangerous ways, often even without any signalling. That behavior (sometimes not thinking, sometimes simply rude, sometimes due to greed onto the speed of the bikes (while the car-lanes were jammed up) iks so widespread, I'd have bought a small cam, if years ago that would have been that chaep...
Lightningchase1973 2 years ago
Sonethings more: Narrow overtake, and than the right hook (in Austria we drive on the right side, likewise in 99% of the world), that is terrible dangerous, particularly when done by big vehicles, like a bus ar a truck. I was overtaken by a speeding bus (town, 70 instead of 50kph), so close, that I felt the mirror streaking over the tips of my hair, and the bus itself 5cm from the handlebar (there was more than enough space to do a correct overtake...)
Lightningchase1973 2 years ago
How could the bus driver not have seen the cyclist? The cyclist was in front of the bus driver, as the bus had to overtake, on the road, if you're telling me the bus driver 'probably' couldn't see the cyclist, why was he drinving in the first place? Being unable to observe the road ahead, shouldn't be driving at all.
wazztie16 2 years ago 3
fucking cyclists get off the fucking road! the bus should have crushed the fucker! get on the pavement u dumb shit! the road is for engines!
tomismilankovic 2 years ago
@ tomismilankovic... he has a RIGHT to be on the road regardless of your opinion about "engines belonging on the road" this video is to show the risks involved. why people like you always give abuse to cyclists i havent a clue, he has a right to use the roads just like anybody else, you dont see in a highway code NOT to look for cyclists because its fairly obvious for cyclists to use the roads & not risk the safety of pedestrians.. so grow up, get a life, stop being a twat and lighten up.
gizmo198126 2 years ago
tomismilankovic: Youz fucking bloody fag of a moron should be simply killed... Easy and fast solotion for things like you spoinling the genepool of mankind.
Lightningchase1973 2 years ago
Agreed not all bus drivers are crap, in fact I take pride in the fact ive been trained to a proffesional standard! I speak for many other drivers when I say that we take pride in professional driving. On the flip side there are some wanker cyclists too. a 19 tonne bus is VERY hard to stop when a bike zips out and weaves all over the road. Swings and roundabouts im afraid!
danart222 3 years ago 2
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wat you on bout just cus you met one bad driver all the same your the wanker .fairenough that driver was bad not all bad
stagecoachbuss 3 years ago
I have just this minute been giving a bus driver a piece of my mind what a prick there all the same he made me drive on pavemnt as i was overtaking so im reporting his appauling behaviour hope he loses his job if i see him again in the street ill kick his ass, wanker. if that was me in vid i would have gone and made official complaint when the fuck has it been ok to swerve at someone or overtaking?? with a bus full of people low life gggggggrrrrrrrrrrrrr
vikingthors 3 years ago
Im a bus driver myself and that was shocking...hope you reported him. Im also a mountain biker and cyclist. Good vid..highlights the bad ones out there!
danart222 3 years ago 3
yeah what the driver did was wrong, but magnatom is just as bad as confronting the driver over it is classed as road rage in my books
aquarius5299 3 years ago
Now that was out of order hope you took more of this and showed it to the bus company. They would of sacked him on the spot.
marcus577 3 years ago
This is a very common problem with many bus drivers in london, they do not tend to look before stopping.
markhorneyuk 3 years ago
what dikhead bus driverr
2kk7AnDy2kk7 3 years ago
loved him saying that
johnbeyer 3 years ago 2
I ride a bike AND drive a bus (though not at the same time obviously) so I'm in the ideal position to tell you who was wrong. In this case the bus driver was as he cut the cyclist up after passing him. Most bus drivers and cyclists are good at what they do, but as is to be expected, there is a small minority who let everyone else down. So 'cheers' to the mindless arseholes and get off the road you twats!
JchaosM 3 years ago 17
I must say i fully agree with this comment-well done to you for saying what i've been saying all along
Andrewrobinhood 3 years ago
i would of used the F word :)
innovatek121 3 years ago 3
driver needs to be retrained, no awareness
WILKO50 3 years ago 3
DRAMA! This happens in Cambridge every day. Stagecoach drivers are dick-heads; it's a well known fact. No need to get upset about it!
dooleymurphy 3 years ago
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tellygonebung 3 years ago
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a little tip.. if the lights are red, stop pedalling, you will save yourself some puff, not wear out your brakes, and your safety rating for cycling will improve vastly. There was no reason to ride up to the lights as agressively as you did. Then having a go at the bus driver was just threatening behaviour and you should be prosecuted for it. we can't have people going around being agressive to others. It's the road, not a boxing ring.
trafficman1000 3 years ago
slightly naive comment
james56038 3 years ago 2
Come on guys, has nobody got a brain?
I used to cycle and whenever anything big as a bus past me YOU slow down.
Don't forget a bus cannot always judge the distance as you are the most vulnerable road user in transportation.
marky372701 3 years ago
I have had this happen, through a pinch-point (ped crossing). The bus very nearly killed me, I was bloody furious. Made a complaint to his manager and got him a bollocking (hopefully).
PeowPeowPeowLasers 3 years ago
cry me a fukn river!!!!!!!! it happens! but the worst possible thing to do is go and lecture the driver about how right you are and how wrong he is!
charliewspringfield 3 years ago
why is it the worst thing to do. It tells the driver what he has done wrong and he is less likely to do it again be it out of embrassesment or something else
boredwill 3 years ago
It really demonstrates how bicyclist are out of touch with the traffic they have to share the space with. They seem to confuse being a pedestrian with what they are doing and it's really an attitude that will continue to contribute being a hazard on wheels. Riding on sidewalks, on crosswalks, against traffic, crossing in front of traffic when it's not safe is out of the question. In Los Angeles, California we have designated bike ways, painted bike lanes shared with parked cars.
transitwizard 3 years ago
What are you talking about? The guy was on the road and the bus cut him up! I think you'll find it's the bus driver who's out of touch with his immediate surroundings...
craigquik 3 years ago 2
Try driving a Bus when a small item starts buzzing around in your outside mirror and you have other objects you have to avoid so that you don't flatten the bike rider! Bike riders don't feel they are doing anything wrong but they don't think of what the other drivers have to do to keep from having a serious accident with them. I don't think anyone interviewed the driver to get the whole story!
transitwizard 3 years ago
How about checking your mirror before you move in after overtaking something? You wouldn't overtake a car then pull back in before the end of the bus was past it, so why do it to a cyclist?
craigquik 3 years ago 4
This happen to me in london and yes I got it on video! I wrote to the bus company and they were not interested.
ontheroaduk2008 4 years ago
so cycling in a bus lane is against the law then - I must have misssed thet meeting - where is this law referred to?
nickperry68 4 years ago
i say this as a bus driver for stagecoach, and a keen cyclist. i agree that this drivers actions are shocking! but, going kinda off subject, shouldnt cyclists b forced to pay tax, or at least, insurance, to be allowed to use the public roads? horse riders too!
hank210 4 years ago
As it happens, the cyclist in the video does pay road tax, he just prefers to cycle when possible. How about renaming road tax into environmental damage penalty charge or something more appropriate?
mailpauljonescouk 4 years ago
good point! i think cyclists should be insured though!
hank210 4 years ago
Why? The number of accidents actually caused by cyclists or pedestrians is miniscule compared to those caused by "trained" motorists. I'm NOT saying that all cyclists are angels and all motorists are bad -- but there seems to be a lot of anecdotal evidence that cyclists cause accidents which is not actually backed up by reality. Also -- at what age should such compulsory insurance kick in? If its such a problem why isn't it compulsory already? Where is any evidence it would work or is needed?
nickperry68 4 years ago
So the cyclist in this video pays road tax, they are lucky not to have to rely on a car.
I presumme they grow their own food, generate their own power, make their own clothes etc. Stop being so smug, cycling only lessens your impact. EDPC has a ring to it, ideal for leading mug punters in whatever tangent the government bounces off in.
smellycar14 4 years ago
meaning?
nickperry68 4 years ago
What dont you understand ?
smellycar14 4 years ago
The whole comment - why is he smug for pointing out that VED is emissions based?
nickperry68 4 years ago
Are you sure your arguing with the correct person ? The majority of cycle component are manufactured in the far east, and increasingly China, the most polluting country at present and for the forseable future.
smellycar14 4 years ago
I'm asking -- not arguing -- it's just that I often hear that cyclist's have no right to be on the road because they don't pay road tax -- when it's pointed out that ved is not hypothecated, and that we all pay for roads, or that ved is now emissions based, cyclists are then accused of somehow being smug -- I just don't get it.
nickperry68 4 years ago
You have a good point about manufacturing, and bicycle manufacturing and transportation certainly does have an environmental cost, along with pretty much everything else. I am not anti car, but compare the whole lifecycle (no pun intended) of a bicycle verses a car.
nickperry68 4 years ago
I think we are now getting to some middle ground. Motorists are now treated like leppers by some sections of the community, and I would agree that changing ones car every few years is bad, but surely its up to our elected leaders to impose standards on the manufacturers that transport should have a sensible lifespan. (and we dont all pay income tax, just workers) I dont have a problem with cyclists (being one myself)
smellycar14 4 years ago
But I do have a problem with the vast majority of Edinburgh cyclists who appear to have no concept of road manners. Today 11/03/08 I was privelaged to see a twat in trousers and a kilt meander through two sets of red lights within the space of 100m. My issue is that when I cycle I get the flack and abuse/frustration from the general public.
smellycar14 4 years ago
I agree. I get the same flack regarding other cyclists poor road skills - and, as both cyclist and motorist, I find it interesting how all cyclists are tarred with the same brush, but poor driver behaviour is somehow accepted... re the tax
nickperry68 4 years ago
I think one of the reasons cyclists and motorists are treated in quite different fashions is that if anyone feels agreaved by a motorists actions thier number can be reported. However when have you ever heard of a cyclist being held to account for their behaviour ? (I can only think of a single instant when a person was killed quite recently by a cyclist on a pavement. And they received a reduced sentenence as they were not deamed to be fully responsible for their actions.)
smellycar14 4 years ago
Smellycar & Nicperry I concur. I'm in Los Angeles California where we have bicycle laws and ordinances that are totally ignored. In the 70's I road a bicycle and joined a bike touring group and at our meetings we would learn about situations like this and the work a rounds. The organization was responsible for public outreach and transit publications. Since then it's all being ignored and I think these people need a licence. They should be regulated!!!
transitwizard 3 years ago
Unfortunately, you'll find that this has also happened in a lot of deaths where the motorist is at fault. A simple fine and a ban. Everybody that uses the roads should show consideration and respect to other users. That's what I do. I'm a cyclist, and I get pissed off at many Edinburgh cyclists as well. But I shouldn't be held responsible for the actions of others. I've recently used the bus due to illness. Watching the drivers on Lothian Road is an Eye opener. Jumping red lights.
yafudye 3 years ago
(Cont)driving on to box junctions without allowing them to clear. Stand outside Woolies near Fountainbridge. It's an eye opener. And I'm not just talking about plebs. Bus divers are pretty bad as well. They're professionals. They should know better. I know that this sounds like a rant against motorists, but it isn't really. It just gets rather frustrating at times. There's this constant backwards and forwards with very little common ground reached.
yafudye 3 years ago
Smellycar. You'll be pleased to hear that I saw two cyclists get booked for red light jumping last Thursday. It was near the big Boots on Princes Street. Serves them right. Whether, cyclist or motorist. You break the rules, you should be bear the consequences.
Apologies for the double post.
yafudye 3 years ago 3
Must have ben a slow day for the Police !! I to like to cycle, but like yourself hate being "tarred " with the same brush.
smellycar14 3 years ago
very very sad
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blade0954 4 years ago
are you trying to call me a dick or are you just a fool? by the way this preson on the bike was commiting a crime the moment he blocked a public service vehicles path GET A JOB INSTEAD OF GOING ROUND WITH A BIKE AND CAMERA YOU WENT LOOKING FOR TROUBLE THAT DAY AND YOU KNOW YOU DID STOP HINDERING PUBLIC TRANSPORT
846146176717 4 years ago
846146176717 try and differentiate between made-up laws that exist only in your mind and those actually exist in reality
nickperry68 4 years ago
obstructing a public service vechicle in england is agaist the law
846146176717 4 years ago
so cycling in a bus lane is against the law then - I must have misssed thet meeting - where is this law referred to?
nickperry68 4 years ago
still waiting 846146176717 - c'mon - how was cyclist commiting a crime??? Where's your evidence - or are you just making it up as you go along???
nickperry68 4 years ago
thats does not look like a cycle lane to me the driver was wrong to cut you up but blocking the busess path was wrong as was hitting the bus you should have given this footage to stagecoach who would have delt with it and the driver would have got a dp i would love to have seen what happend before this
846146176717 4 years ago
My mistake 846146176717 -- you're right, it's not a bus lane, I got confused with another clip - sorry, but I still don't think cyclist was committing a crime -- I'm sure paul can tell you what happened before...
nickperry68 4 years ago
I was a second or two ahead of the bus from the railway station all the way to where the video starts, a distance of over 500 metres, with a single traffic light stop in between. Odd then that the driver apparently forgets I exist after passing me.
mailpauljonescouk 4 years ago
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blade0954 4 years ago
Im a bus driver for stagecoach and one of my best mates is a cyclist as hes at cambridge uni...usually id stick up for the driver but in this case he was a fuckwit not checking his mirror properly and its good that you challenged him about it...did you go and make a complaint?...even better fall off your bike and sue stagecoach!...they're a shit as employers!
6axe1man5 4 years ago 5
This was reported to Stagecoach and broadcast on BBC TV news.
mailpauljonescouk 4 years ago
Some bus drivers are fuckin idiots. they think they can do what they want because their in a bus. its happened to me a few times now.
1Equinox1 4 years ago
in dublin cyclists do very little to help themselves especially on dark nights . no lights , no helmets, no high vis jackets , they wear dark clothes . it surprises me that more cyclists are'nt hurt or worse in this city . thats does not excuse moronic driving . as i drive my car for a living i see a lot of that too .
irishmanufan 4 years ago 2
What a prat bus driver at the same time you can't help but think in a nation that puts cycle lanes in bus lanes-not in this case-but in Manchester, the roads are doomed to incidents such as these.
AlonsoLegend 4 years ago
Taxi drivers and bus drivers are the killers in cambridge, i've seen a lot of scary stuff from these drivers, the taxi's are the worst they have no regard for people or their lives!
wearethefuture3030 4 years ago
I think you're more likely to get killed by a lorry than a bus or taxi. I find most buses and taxis are driven well but there are exceptions and some road layouts increase the chance of conflict.
mailpauljonescouk 4 years ago
Unnecessarily aggressive..
Drivers and cyclists are all in this together..
Hardest thing for drivers is to cope with weaving cyclists and motor cyclists.
I would always prefer to keep buses in front of me....that way I know where they are.And if I'm local, then I know where their bus stops are and can progress my journey accordingly...
peterlewis2 4 years ago
LMAO Funny!!
eddiepuk 4 years ago
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blade0954 4 years ago
There's no excuse here Paul, the fat oaf saw you to overtake you and it is inexcusable that he did not check his mirror to pull back in.Bus drivers, mini cab drivers an dlorries are the shite-est on the road and if they do this sort of shit to cars they aren't gonna blink when doing it to a cyclist.Top Tip:don't stop and ask him "why did you do that" in a ponsey voice,just push his wing mirror in and call him something like what NickPerry68 calls people in his messages!
NIKFANTASTIC 4 years ago
What a typical comment from an idiot. Obviously the fault of the driver in this instance , but the ignorance to tar all in the trade of driving. Of course there arent cyclists who ride reclessly are there? Sounds like you have little road experience at all.
arniecommando 4 years ago
Driving license one day after 17th birthday - clean license and a garage full of cars that Clarkeson would masturbate over.... also a dry sense of humour and using You Tube to make angry people like you burst a vein! tarra xxxx
NIKFANTASTIC 4 years ago
Angry??? Nope sorry to disappoint you. But I forgot, its impossible to hold discussion with ignorance or arrogance, No need to make any other reply as you have made your self known to fall into these categories. Paul is trying to raise awareness not silly comments.
arniecommando 4 years ago
Wot an ignorant response! Of course the bus was at fault, but hey, cyclists are amongst the worst law breakers on the roads! Many ride at night without lights and few observe red traffic lights, so lets put this into perspective. To say all bus/lorry/taxis are bad drivers is just an ill-informed and ignorant response from someone with little or no common sense or experience of life
BristolRE 4 years ago
he's a crap drivers who can control such a large vehicle. I know it was the drivers fualt, but the cyclist should slowed down rapidly as it he risked being knocked off by the bus by continueing pedaling. Its annoying i know, but the safest thing the cyclist could done was stopped
chunder123 4 years ago
Yes, I backed off when I saw what was happening, the easiest escape route. Otherwise would have to push off bus, falling onto pavement.
mailpauljonescouk 4 years ago
I have had this done two the bus driver was drunk in this clip i say
juddy2008 4 years ago
A quick addition to clarify, The foul language replies mentioned above sounds like I am saying you have left them, my appologies, badly put, I mean the foul languaged replies left by others posters are left.
arniecommando 4 years ago
Well, there's been very little editorial control re content of posts but lots of work's gone into capturing and presenting the videos for comment. Ultimately, if a single user tries to dominate by posting & posting again with similar ideas, the limit of editorial tolerance is exceeded.
mailpauljonescouk 4 years ago
My final word on this situation which you may feel to remove "Poster". You say"the limit of editorial tollerance is exceeded" I personaly see it as censorship of one persons opinions even if seen as dominating to air there view. They were not rude at any time which in todays society is commendable. A shame you have seen it this way as good points have been aired that I had overlooked.
The End
arniecommando 4 years ago 3
The reason I know who one of these people is, is I have seen several of his posts removed one stating his previous ID had been blocked ( I will not name names) but I believe he put across some very good observations about road safety from many angles as I believe a driver of different sorts of vehicles and also a cyclist himself. My appologies if this is a smallrant but I beleive in freedom of speech & opinion.
arniecommando 4 years ago
This user's previous comments remain in place despite currently being blocked for new comment. I may review the blocking status in future.
mailpauljonescouk 4 years ago
As this will be removed within hours I hope many people read this as this is the most viewded clip. The poster claims these clips are open for discussion your own views,yet if you post too many comments he doesnt like YOU WILL BE BLOCKED. This I think proves the type of view this person wants showing is only in his favour.
arniecommando 4 years ago
Indeed 2 users have been blocked since the site opened several months ago after leaving excessive numbers of unbalanced comments without contributing significantly to the discussion.
mailpauljonescouk 4 years ago
wat the hell was the bus driver thinking??
try switching places
see if he likes it
wazztie16 4 years ago 2
Gotta go with bicyclist on this one. Just don't know what legal direction you could take in your town
ortlikasealion 4 years ago 2
10/10 to the cyclist.
if i were u... i dunno if u did this or not, but i'd of requested the doors of the bus to open, and i'd of blimmin got on, and gave him a clip round the ear, and a good talking to. maybe more than just a clip round the ear, depending on how sorry he was. lol
bkermike 4 years ago
He'd be lucky to get leadership, the way he rides his bike ! LOL
leewink 4 years ago
Paul Jones for prime minister!!!!!
Keep it up mate.
If had camera every time that happened... The Public Carriage office would get about three complaints a day. Often I tell cabbies their indicators 'aren't working' or remind them that it's Mirror, Signal THEN Maneouvre.
i always think of a TOP TIP from Viz a few years back:
Taxi drivers, when next at the garage, ask the mechanic to check the indicators are working
SkullHead72 4 years ago
I hope the driver's employer has been made aware of this video evidence, the driver should be placed into any disciplinary procedures the company operates.
JohnGBUK 4 years ago
Yes, video was supplied to Stagecoach, who were quoted on terrastrial TV (BBC or ITV), saying that the driver was put back in the driving school.
mailpauljonescouk 4 years ago
Well done Paul for keeping your cool! I would have jumped on board and ripped his stupid fucking head off. No excuse for being a total knob head bus driver.
I bet he has cyclists stickers on his cab door. Hope you got apology from Stagecoach.
OscarsWorld 4 years ago 2
Is that reason for bus drivers to drive dangerously ?
johnmcaulay 4 years ago
OK, i have criticised a couple of your videos before. But i come from a slightly different perspective, i am a regular bike rider, i drive a car and am also fully licenced to drive HGVs (which is what i do for a living) However, i would like to say that the driving standards demonstarated by the bus driver are appalling and dangerous. I have a simple rule, If i look in a mirror and i dont see a cyclist - I wonder where he is. not if he's there.
talisman01 4 years ago 2
It's not only cyclists bus drivers treat like ****. I've lost count of the number of times I've had to brake or maneuver to avoid busses, including bus drivers choosing not to use their mirrors and just blithely pulling out in front of me, sometimes when I'm already along side them. And those "special" few bus drivers who choose to stop at roundabouts.
johnmcaulay 4 years ago
Well everyone, including cyclists, tend to treat bus drivers like shite
nethalus 4 years ago
how does a rider on a bike treat a bus driver and his 3 ton death machine like "shite"? i ride in the streets here in the states and see the same crap. i HAVE to respect buses or i DIE. a lot of bus drivers don't feel they have to respect ANYTHING, and of course, their lives are in no danger.
unixd0rk 3 years ago 2