@lovinlifeTV...not sure if you get this, but let me ask you this. Do you think it is nice if we live under peace with many people having different beliefs..one being Buddhist, the other being Hinduist, the other Protestant, the other Catholic etc.,
What are all this true not true in know you don't know? It just make thinks getting not the right direction Father Moon is only one and the true children are only one the time will come to search for them and ask please save us the one who stay strong will have the easy way what father says even in 1960 s in his sermons is happening even great leaders will fall but you must be strong and so one. John the baptist did not unite with his yang brother the time is come and the older brother must un
Kook Jin is helping generate new money with his brilliance. The UCI should do as much. They should stop making trouble for all of the devoted members that believe in Unification and True Parents. Return the things that you stole and confess that you are wrong to hurt all of us that believe. Free our beloved brother to return to his family of billionaires. All the thieving and lieing you do affects the people you claim to be revealing the truth to. The blood sweat and tears for who? Kwak?
Remember it is easy to make unfounded accusations to make people doubt someone--this is what politicians do all the time. It is cowardly and immature. Get a life and try to do something better than Kook Jin Moon is doing.
Such ridiculous comments. It there was some illegitimate child then there would be some legal action. I worked with Kook Jin Nim for 10 years and have over a 30 year business experience. I have never met anyone with more integrity and lack of personal guile. Yes is he is not a salesman nor a preacher so he does not mince and calculate his words to fit the public audience he just says it honestly as he sees it. Maybe that is a worthy criticism.
the father is suffering slightly from dementia and started speaking about the illegitimate children this guy has spawned and how upset the father was! While all the moonies sat there like "whoooaaa" this is supposed to be lies!! There's the Dad telling it like it is in his confusion - also the Dad is supposed to be the messiah!! Who is lying? this guy or the messiah? LOL
ugh what a cock "sue me I'm rich" why doesnt he give some of it to some of the members?
I love the fact that the Moon family are so obsessed by the internet - they know the game is up
They hate the internet
the success of their corruption and greed is dependent on keeping the members from the information - now the truth is out there about how horrible Moon and his children are and boy are they scared!! Not going to be rich for much longer
the internet is not going away no matter who they sue
@grai have you even met any of these people or what they have done? you only read garbage that idiots post don't just believe that go and see for yourself
@grai i have met several of them and i chose what i want to believe and they are honest good people. fantasies of my parents? you don't even know my parents, actually my life was not to great until i started to listen to them. and you haven't answer my question have you met any of these people??? what have they ever done to you
@grai well he didn't say that to sue him because he's rich but he said that because he didn't do anything wrong... are you kidding me maybe before when other people where running moon business but now that kook jin jim running it its doing even better, i don't know where u get ur lies but they get paid like regular people and other people besides church people works there.
my parents arnt in poverty stop saying things like you actually know me, from what I've seen this is the best religion.
@grai have you ever read our bible, we believe in unifying science and religion, and what we mostly teach about is to just simply love each other, of corse theres always going to be people saying this religion is wrong like any other religion that starts out but this is my religion and i will forever believe it.
you have obviously not EXAMINED or QUESTIONED it at all
do you know for example the idea of ying & yang in DP is victorian science 100 years out of date?
The idea that god is reflected in positive & negative is complete nonsense - research, physics and science generally has moved on
do you know the historical parallels that are supposed to tie in with Moon's birth are nonsense? - he changed the dates of REAL history to fit the dates that suited his birth
@grai Okay reading thos websites aren't gonna tell you anything good OR anything true!You obviously don't REALLY know anything about the UC,& you don't know anything about Rev. moon or Kook Jin Nim my father has a job thanks to him,Kook Jin Nim is not running on his parents money or the members he established himself to be a great business man, and uses that skill
& If anything this church is helping my life not ruining! & this is what I really believe, i was out of the church for a while myself but later i found the church to be true and I'm more happier than ever
@meanaok3332 if you were looking at the Moon family honestly or investigating the divine principle honestly you would see they are living a billionaire lifestyle while your parents are poor
you would also see that DP was made up by a woman in Korea who published it BEFORE Moon's "revelation"
also DP is wrong - the history parallels are wrong and all the crap about yin & yang
do I need to go on? you're kidding yourself but I know your family pull must be very strong to stay
@grai Well my parents aren't even poor.. so I'm sorry you have so much resentment towards our church and possibly your own parents, I hope you can find truth in your life one day like i have :)
@meanaok3332 how come UC members always have to resort to making out its the other person that has some kind of character flaw? "you have resentment, you are bigoted, ignorant.. you dont know god ..." Always the same defensive tactics and judgements
I have no resentment towards anyone - I left the UC in 1986! I'm over it!
I speak out against crooks exploiting human beings like you & your parents
the Moon family are reptiles who do not care about you or your family - save yourself
its not that what youre saying is negative but you are perpetuating the Moon exploitation by defending a reptile like kook jin moon and his gangster family who have hurt so many thousands of lives for money
you cant expect people to praise you for that!
I hope you find a way to live a seperate life and still keep the relationship you have with your family
they are wrong to make you feel you have to live YOUR life for THEIR deluded dreams
@grai You really don't seem like your over it if the church makes you so angry.
And i really don't know where you get the idea they're a "gangster family"
or how they've hurt many families. If you left in 1986 then have you even seen how far this church has come? i can understand it must have been very hard for you back then but a lot of things have changed since then, I know our church is not perfect yet but all our intentions are for good. All religions have their flaws..
@meanaok3332 you will never achieve your goals as a church because you are unclear what they are - the kingdom of heaven? one nation following the messiah? Also the teaching has CHANGED since I was in the UC
it is sold by Moon as an UNCHANGING Absolute Truth he altered it according to what is needed because it is UNTRUE at the root
it has already failed as a movement - its based on lies and money - but Moon and his reptile children are happy - they only wanted to be rich & now they are
@grai as for hurting people you are very protected and cocooned by your parents if you are not aware of the people who have left the church and their problems - do they tell you not to have contact with ex-members? doesnt that make you wonder what they are trying to hide?
I would advise you to visit the websites and blogs - many are written by "blessed" children who are pretending to their parents that they still believe in the UC so that they can put inside information on the internet
@grai look at the work of the church and ask yourself what its REALLY doing for the world - it is BUSINESSES nothing else
look at Moons "perfect" "sinless" children Are they finding cures for cancer? are they saints? Are they living in Africa among the starving? Isnt that what a sinless person would do?
they are drug addicts, suicides, porn heads, sex obsessed gangsters, gun runners, tax evaders, adulterers...
please! discrediting them is so easy! they do it themselves - so does Moon
@grai Your the one that seems unclear with all these extreme drastic rumor that i have no idea where anybody would get these ideas. And actually i have ex moonie friends even the kid that made one of the websites, im not "cocooned" by anyone like i said i had to find the church to be true MYSELF, Another thing NO one ever said that the true children are perfect and sinless, they even admit they have sinned, everyone does!
@grai ~To create families that are of Gods lineage,
I'm sorry but im not really sure that you know shit about UC
Anyways theres no point in trying to explain anything to you..
Get over whatever anger you have towards the church and move on stop trying spread stupid rumors your just being cowardly, seriously send an email to In Jin shes not going to kill you i promise better yet why don't you go see her after church sometime..
@meanaok3332 I wouldnt dream of getting back and forth with one of Moons kids - it would waste all our energy
I have been a brainwashed moonie and I have examined the teachings from inside the UC and from a place where there is no peer presssure or control of information
something you have NEVER done
you left - but then you went back! how deeply did you really research the crap going down at the top of the church? Its not just rumour - a lot of things are FACT
@meanaok3332 There is MASSIVE corruption that deals with billions of dollars
Do you think Nan Sook made up the things she saw in the MOn house that she wrote in that book? Have you been allowed to read Non Sook's book? probably not
the teaching do NOT stand up to scrutiny and Moon stole them - he didnt get them from revelation
these are not just rumours they are very important lies that your parents have believed and taught you -
@grai Don't go making accusations on the true children's life when you don't truly know the course they had to go through, i personally know people in the true family try actually talking to them, instead of just cowardly talking behind they're back to people. Send an email to In Jin Nim tell her how you feel, instead of trying to bring people who are HAPPY in the church down with you
@meanaok3332 "the course they had to go through" (??) - please stop parroting words that you have heard from your parents - ask what that means - not much - You are not a tape machine - think for yourself
you do not know Moon's children personally - they live a billionaire lifestyle and would not be seen dead with church members like you - you are dreaming
@grai I do, you don't know any of them? they're grandchildren go to church all the time my father and kook jin are great friends, you don't know anything about how i live so stop. Seriously these stupid rumors you hear ARE NOT TRUE either that or blown out of proportion, You need to think for YOURself instead of just listening to all these websites. Challenge my parents status quo? i told i left the church b4 to,
& yeah create families with no ORIGINAL sin DOES NOT mean we don't sin,
You're right I would be scared to face any of Moon's children - they are gangsters Young Jin had a history of violence before he died of a cocaine overdose (that chuch members like you got told was a "heart attack") and one of the sons is obsessed with designing and making guns - most of Moon's children abuse cocaine which is known to cause aggression - you're right! they are scary people not holy people!
Get real and think for yourself - challeng your parents staus quo
@grai And Rev. Moon has went thru hell and back to try and bring world peace and give joy to God and still is,You haven't seen the tears hes cried for God
@grai Did you stay married? Have you had children and raised them as a single mother? Nothing wrong with that mind you. Sorry you couldn't keep the faith. You wont be able to identify one thing Father Moon has changed in his teaching. Your statements about Young Jin are of coarse unfair. Way to go shooting off your mouth to try and hurt someone younger than you. Creep!
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What are all this true not true in know you don't know? It just make thinks getting not the right direction Father Moon is only one and the true children are only one the time will come to search for them and ask please save us the one who stay strong will have the easy way what father says even in 1960 s in his sermons is happening even great leaders will fall but you must be strong and so one. John the baptist did not unite with his yang brother the time is come and the older brother must un
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Shame on you all deceivers, you are on your way to lake of fire!!!
BruceLeeinPeru 2 months ago
Kook Jin is helping generate new money with his brilliance. The UCI should do as much. They should stop making trouble for all of the devoted members that believe in Unification and True Parents. Return the things that you stole and confess that you are wrong to hurt all of us that believe. Free our beloved brother to return to his family of billionaires. All the thieving and lieing you do affects the people you claim to be revealing the truth to. The blood sweat and tears for who? Kwak?
zshoultz 3 months ago
@zshoultz Laurie shoultz? :o
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grai 4 months ago
Remember it is easy to make unfounded accusations to make people doubt someone--this is what politicians do all the time. It is cowardly and immature. Get a life and try to do something better than Kook Jin Moon is doing.
johncat21 4 months ago
standing on line of satan's family
yrigado123 5 months ago
Such ridiculous comments. It there was some illegitimate child then there would be some legal action. I worked with Kook Jin Nim for 10 years and have over a 30 year business experience. I have never met anyone with more integrity and lack of personal guile. Yes is he is not a salesman nor a preacher so he does not mince and calculate his words to fit the public audience he just says it honestly as he sees it. Maybe that is a worthy criticism.
DCK2100 6 months ago
does anyone know where i can find the full video?
jkfaris24 6 months ago
this is the result of anger....why can't we be humble instead? and be quite.
jerwincascarro18 8 months ago
"wow..." hahaha what a jerk off
CholtaeSarang 10 months ago
the father is suffering slightly from dementia and started speaking about the illegitimate children this guy has spawned and how upset the father was! While all the moonies sat there like "whoooaaa" this is supposed to be lies!! There's the Dad telling it like it is in his confusion - also the Dad is supposed to be the messiah!! Who is lying? this guy or the messiah? LOL
grai 1 year ago
ugh what a cock "sue me I'm rich" why doesnt he give some of it to some of the members?
I love the fact that the Moon family are so obsessed by the internet - they know the game is up
They hate the internet
the success of their corruption and greed is dependent on keeping the members from the information - now the truth is out there about how horrible Moon and his children are and boy are they scared!! Not going to be rich for much longer
the internet is not going away no matter who they sue
grai 1 year ago
@grai are you kidding the stuff they post is ridiculous have you even seen if its right... probably not
masa11355 4 months ago
@masa11355 oh its right
it says the whole family are gangsters
underpinned with impartial evidence from inside the cult
thats all anyone needs to know
its finished for them - and now the fighting for the money starts - and Daddy Moon is only half dead!!
grai 4 months ago
@grai have you even met any of these people or what they have done? you only read garbage that idiots post don't just believe that go and see for yourself
masa11355 4 months ago
@masa11355
have YOU ever met any of them?? YOU are the one believing garbage for no reason!!
do you REALLY think Daddy Moon gives a fig about you??
How much time have YOU spent *one to one* with any of the gangster Moon family?
Stop living the fantasies of your parents
you will only damage your life the way they did for these horrible Korean crooks
grai 4 months ago
@grai i have met several of them and i chose what i want to believe and they are honest good people. fantasies of my parents? you don't even know my parents, actually my life was not to great until i started to listen to them. and you haven't answer my question have you met any of these people??? what have they ever done to you
masa11355 4 months ago
@masa11355
you do not know these people personally - so leave that out - its fantasy - they live in another world like all rich people do
listen to this creep saying "sue me I'm rich"
all the moonie businesses did well because the workers were not paid and the Moons lived a billionaire lifestyle
those same people now live in poverty including your parents
and you think they are great people?? they are crooks - open your eyes
grai 4 months ago
@grai well he didn't say that to sue him because he's rich but he said that because he didn't do anything wrong... are you kidding me maybe before when other people where running moon business but now that kook jin jim running it its doing even better, i don't know where u get ur lies but they get paid like regular people and other people besides church people works there.
my parents arnt in poverty stop saying things like you actually know me, from what I've seen this is the best religion.
masa11355 4 months ago
@masa11355
you are young and when you are more experienced you will see this is not a religion
it is a con to keep the Moons rich - nothing else - they are BILLIONAIRES!!
church members hand over the pay checks "for god" and the non-UC people are always a minority in any moonie business
those are the facts and if you are being told different you are being lied to
ask around a little and not just accept everything you are told without questioning it - use your own brain
grai 4 months ago
@grai have you ever read our bible, we believe in unifying science and religion, and what we mostly teach about is to just simply love each other, of corse theres always going to be people saying this religion is wrong like any other religion that starts out but this is my religion and i will forever believe it.
masa11355 4 months ago
@masa11355
you have obviously not EXAMINED or QUESTIONED it at all
do you know for example the idea of ying & yang in DP is victorian science 100 years out of date?
The idea that god is reflected in positive & negative is complete nonsense - research, physics and science generally has moved on
do you know the historical parallels that are supposed to tie in with Moon's birth are nonsense? - he changed the dates of REAL history to fit the dates that suited his birth
THINK !!!
grai 4 months ago
@grai Okay reading thos websites aren't gonna tell you anything good OR anything true!You obviously don't REALLY know anything about the UC,& you don't know anything about Rev. moon or Kook Jin Nim my father has a job thanks to him,Kook Jin Nim is not running on his parents money or the members he established himself to be a great business man, and uses that skill
meanaok3332 2 months ago
@meanaok3332 I'm an ex-member and I know how your parents think - they DONT think!
don't let your parents dreams ruin your life the way it has ruined theirs - get as far away from the UC as you can - its nonsense
grai 2 months ago
@grai I HAVE many times
& If anything this church is helping my life not ruining! & this is what I really believe, i was out of the church for a while myself but later i found the church to be true and I'm more happier than ever
meanaok3332 2 months ago
@meanaok3332 if you were looking at the Moon family honestly or investigating the divine principle honestly you would see they are living a billionaire lifestyle while your parents are poor
you would also see that DP was made up by a woman in Korea who published it BEFORE Moon's "revelation"
also DP is wrong - the history parallels are wrong and all the crap about yin & yang
do I need to go on? you're kidding yourself but I know your family pull must be very strong to stay
Very sad
grai 2 months ago
@grai Well my parents aren't even poor.. so I'm sorry you have so much resentment towards our church and possibly your own parents, I hope you can find truth in your life one day like i have :)
meanaok3332 2 months ago
@meanaok3332 how come UC members always have to resort to making out its the other person that has some kind of character flaw? "you have resentment, you are bigoted, ignorant.. you dont know god ..." Always the same defensive tactics and judgements
I have no resentment towards anyone - I left the UC in 1986! I'm over it!
I speak out against crooks exploiting human beings like you & your parents
the Moon family are reptiles who do not care about you or your family - save yourself
grai 2 months ago
@grai jeez i ididn't mean to insult you sorry, Why do you always have to make everything we do or say so negative?
Anyways I'm done with this, I'm happy in the church
& they've done a lot for me and my family
meanaok3332 2 months ago
@meanaok3332
its not that what youre saying is negative but you are perpetuating the Moon exploitation by defending a reptile like kook jin moon and his gangster family who have hurt so many thousands of lives for money
you cant expect people to praise you for that!
I hope you find a way to live a seperate life and still keep the relationship you have with your family
they are wrong to make you feel you have to live YOUR life for THEIR deluded dreams
grai 2 months ago
@grai You really don't seem like your over it if the church makes you so angry.
And i really don't know where you get the idea they're a "gangster family"
or how they've hurt many families. If you left in 1986 then have you even seen how far this church has come? i can understand it must have been very hard for you back then but a lot of things have changed since then, I know our church is not perfect yet but all our intentions are for good. All religions have their flaws..
meanaok3332 2 months ago
@meanaok3332 you will never achieve your goals as a church because you are unclear what they are - the kingdom of heaven? one nation following the messiah? Also the teaching has CHANGED since I was in the UC
it is sold by Moon as an UNCHANGING Absolute Truth he altered it according to what is needed because it is UNTRUE at the root
it has already failed as a movement - its based on lies and money - but Moon and his reptile children are happy - they only wanted to be rich & now they are
grai 2 months ago
@grai as for hurting people you are very protected and cocooned by your parents if you are not aware of the people who have left the church and their problems - do they tell you not to have contact with ex-members? doesnt that make you wonder what they are trying to hide?
I would advise you to visit the websites and blogs - many are written by "blessed" children who are pretending to their parents that they still believe in the UC so that they can put inside information on the internet
grai 2 months ago
@grai look at the work of the church and ask yourself what its REALLY doing for the world - it is BUSINESSES nothing else
look at Moons "perfect" "sinless" children Are they finding cures for cancer? are they saints? Are they living in Africa among the starving? Isnt that what a sinless person would do?
they are drug addicts, suicides, porn heads, sex obsessed gangsters, gun runners, tax evaders, adulterers...
please! discrediting them is so easy! they do it themselves - so does Moon
grai 2 months ago
@grai Your the one that seems unclear with all these extreme drastic rumor that i have no idea where anybody would get these ideas. And actually i have ex moonie friends even the kid that made one of the websites, im not "cocooned" by anyone like i said i had to find the church to be true MYSELF, Another thing NO one ever said that the true children are perfect and sinless, they even admit they have sinned, everyone does!
meanaok3332 2 months ago
@meanaok333
but if they are not sinless you realise that this means that Moon is not the messiah dont you
the DP teaches that he overcame original sin to create a sinless family
or has that part of DP changed too?
they have changed a lot of the "unchanging eternal truth"
the Moon family all turned out to be screw-ups so Moon suddenly is happy to say his children are not the original Four Position Foundation
and you say this "religion" makes you happy? - of course it doesnt
grai 2 months ago
@grai ~To create families that are of Gods lineage,
I'm sorry but im not really sure that you know shit about UC
Anyways theres no point in trying to explain anything to you..
Get over whatever anger you have towards the church and move on stop trying spread stupid rumors your just being cowardly, seriously send an email to In Jin shes not going to kill you i promise better yet why don't you go see her after church sometime..
meanaok3332 2 months ago
@meanaok3332 I wouldnt dream of getting back and forth with one of Moons kids - it would waste all our energy
I have been a brainwashed moonie and I have examined the teachings from inside the UC and from a place where there is no peer presssure or control of information
something you have NEVER done
you left - but then you went back! how deeply did you really research the crap going down at the top of the church? Its not just rumour - a lot of things are FACT
grai 2 months ago
@meanaok3332 There is MASSIVE corruption that deals with billions of dollars
Do you think Nan Sook made up the things she saw in the MOn house that she wrote in that book? Have you been allowed to read Non Sook's book? probably not
the teaching do NOT stand up to scrutiny and Moon stole them - he didnt get them from revelation
these are not just rumours they are very important lies that your parents have believed and taught you -
too many facts to type in here
grai 2 months ago
@meanaok3332 they have watered down the DP since I was a member - that should tell you a lot about how true it actually is
we were taught CONSTANTLY that Moons kids were perfect and sinless - that was the whole point of being a member!
when people saw how messed up he was and his kids they started to leave in the early 80's
the church is a waste of your time seriously
thats all I'm saying - I'm sure you're a great person - thats why I want you to THINK and get your own life
grai 2 months ago
@grai Don't go making accusations on the true children's life when you don't truly know the course they had to go through, i personally know people in the true family try actually talking to them, instead of just cowardly talking behind they're back to people. Send an email to In Jin Nim tell her how you feel, instead of trying to bring people who are HAPPY in the church down with you
meanaok3332 2 months ago
@meanaok3332 "the course they had to go through" (??) - please stop parroting words that you have heard from your parents - ask what that means - not much - You are not a tape machine - think for yourself
you do not know Moon's children personally - they live a billionaire lifestyle and would not be seen dead with church members like you - you are dreaming
grai 2 months ago
@grai I do, you don't know any of them? they're grandchildren go to church all the time my father and kook jin are great friends, you don't know anything about how i live so stop. Seriously these stupid rumors you hear ARE NOT TRUE either that or blown out of proportion, You need to think for YOURself instead of just listening to all these websites. Challenge my parents status quo? i told i left the church b4 to,
& yeah create families with no ORIGINAL sin DOES NOT mean we don't sin,
meanaok3332 2 months ago
@meanaok3332
You're right I would be scared to face any of Moon's children - they are gangsters Young Jin had a history of violence before he died of a cocaine overdose (that chuch members like you got told was a "heart attack") and one of the sons is obsessed with designing and making guns - most of Moon's children abuse cocaine which is known to cause aggression - you're right! they are scary people not holy people!
Get real and think for yourself - challeng your parents staus quo
grai 2 months ago
@grai And Rev. Moon has went thru hell and back to try and bring world peace and give joy to God and still is,You haven't seen the tears hes cried for God
meanaok3332 2 months ago
@meanaok333
NEITHER HAVE YOU
stop repeating what other people have told you and think for yourself - what are you? A parrot?
grai 2 months ago
@grai Did you stay married? Have you had children and raised them as a single mother? Nothing wrong with that mind you. Sorry you couldn't keep the faith. You wont be able to identify one thing Father Moon has changed in his teaching. Your statements about Young Jin are of coarse unfair. Way to go shooting off your mouth to try and hurt someone younger than you. Creep!
zshoultz 2 months ago
@zshoultz I least I know I'm a creep - better than being a brainwashed moonie AND a creep who thinks they're "holy"
bet you don't act so rough around church members you hypocrite
grai 2 months ago
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