Free women were not proud to hold a submissive nature they were proud in fact NOT too. They were still under the will of men and were little more then collared slaves, still it was a great pride to be a free woman. They were unwilling to be seen as sexual beings until they were put in that role, and were forced to relish it.
I think you're beautiful and Gorean is a real lifestyle. John Norman has a PhD in philosophy and all of the Gorean culture he depicts in the books is very deliberate comprehensive and that includes the parts concerning slaves and the relationship between a Kajira and her master. In my mind, Goreans are simply people who associate with the things that John Norman writes about. It has nothing to do with delusions of living in a made up world
ok let me get this right you are a kajira and using furniture, wtf is that, and a slave that uses the word I all the time you u said "I have had Masters" what the hell is that, you need to know your roll girl
Interesting that you spend 8 minutes and 47 secs demanding that we not judge you and other Gor kooks. Yet it took you all of 58 seconds to roll your eyes and pass your own judgement on men who consider themselves "slaves." So, we all have to understand your childish "kajira" claims while you trash people that you don't undrstand. OK.
And BTW...can you show us ANY illustrations of GOR that depict a 230 pound kajira? Not sure it's what John Norman had in mind.
@Ofir84 Goreans have different standards fo beauty. Fat rejects from Earth are considered Gorean perfection because their extra fat helps them get the Slave Orgasm (TM).
If your lifestyle comes from a FANTASY BOOK SERIES, it is NOT real. Just in case any of the rest of you were wondering. Since she thinks she's in a life style that doesn't exist.
you HAD been a kajira... sorry but you are are either a kajira or you arent ... you cannot have HAD been... if you have HAD been a kajira you never were to begin with ...
a kajira is one that you wil always been you were either born it or you were neither it to begin with..
the moment you said i HAD been a kajira .. sorry girl but that instantly told me that you never one to begin with.. just my view
Truly Enjoyed reading the comments over 2 years ago to present. In the "spirit" of being civil I know of nothing that can measure how much one is " gorean" or " dominant" or even" submissive" they are titles . Dr Lange took historical culture from every part of the world and threw it all together to give us a idea what things" could" have evolved in , I laugh when i see these people below saying what they are, BDSM's roots themselves are based in the experimental sadism of a lunatic (cont)
(cont) but I see nothing being brought up of their off or online practices, Gor books have been around since the 60's btw.. But it is a persons right to choose and apply what they wish, There is such a thing as consensual slavery, there are contracts, but whats appealing is the morals out of these books, unless you read them entirly you just won't get that.. and it is easy to see who is quick to judge without getting educated about what they are talking about
I feel I really have to say something to all these people who are being so mean to you subbiemouse. They didn't even listen to what you are saying. No one thinks they are actually from Gor. But Gorean's are different than roleplayers beacuse for some this is a lifestlye, not just fun at a convention like fans of other fictions. They live this life everyday; that makes it a very real part of their lives. Gor is fiction that was inspired by, and in turn inspired real BDSM practices.
@dragonmiko I'll have to disagree on that one. the rituals in the book have more in depth and personal meaning on a whole level that cannot me obtained in a BDSM relationship, the power exchange is limited because there is use of a safe word, thus comes the question of who is really in control? Gor philosophy mirrors earth. but we as a society today cannot be bothered to understand they ways of what our ancestors did because we are not allowed time for it.
Real BDSM practices, as you stated came from the Old Guard or what you may know as the Leather guard and some form the writings of Marquis de Sade, it was well established in history before any gorean books were ever written. just FYI
@akissy A-MEN! I have vids I've put up talking about Gorean (Online) roleplay. And >.> I try to look in the mirror, before pressing the "record" button. ...not saying I'm like, a hotshot or something, but...yeah.
However, on the flip side. If she's comfy looking like this, then it's on her- it's her life to enjoy.
If you say that you are a Kajira than its more than fair for me to say that i am a Sith or Jedi. Kajiras its the defenition for female slave, true, but IN THE FANTASY book. So what you are is the representation of a role in a fantasy book.
This is kinda stupid...In my opinion. Gorean...should stop once you log out. Wonder how fucked up your life is that you have to do this. But eh, isnt it Roleplay? Not reality.
People once thought Zeus was real. People once thought Tezcatilopica was real. People think Hubbards nonsense is real. In 300 years, some asshead is going to think Harry Potter and Star Wars is real - a lot of people already do. Lets head this idiocy off at the pass. The universe is vaster and cooler and far more interesting than anything a bunch of dunskys like writers can come up with. Believe in everything, and allow yourself to adjust for errors, rather than believing in nonsense.
Granted, "beauty" is a fiction based on reality, but it's still based on reality. But it's still reality. This is pure, unadulterated fiction. It's the ramblings of a fantasy/scifi writer. It's as real as l.r. Hubbards nonsense.
There's a reason fewer and fewer people buy into Christianity. I always hear the argument "Christians do the same thing". But it doesn't make it true.
Christianity is stupid. A religion/lifestyle based on a science fiction writer is stupid. It's pretendland.
imo NEVER tell youtube your gorean.. everyone takes it completely the wrong way.. ignore forget and screw everyone that wants to argue.. more and more ppl love to argue about shit that they do in society anywho.. so i laugh at them because they do the same damn thing they tell everyone that they never do lol
this is the best video I have seen in a long time.. thank you for making this video...I am a sub/slave interested in he aspects of Gor. and searching for a Gorean teacher. I do believe there is a real Gorean lifestyle it's harder to find.. there not in chatrooms like bdsm Master are in. that's only my opnion..
free woman are proud to hold a submissive nature?bull shit.DO NOT SPEAK FOR OTHERS YOU CLEARLY KNOW NOTHING ABOUT!gorean is a roleplay thing for those who dont know, some do practice slave/master in real life bc they want to feel wanted/need a purpose.females who become kajira's(slave girl)do it bc they crave attention."masters"(weak males)<=explained.kijarus's(slave boy) just wanna get laid usually castrated..FREE WOMAN/PANTHER.woman of self power/runs everything btw dont speak unless spoken to
your avatar is gorean because she exists in a gorean roleplay sim, rather you live irl by a submissive lifestyle, that is of course your choice and i will not knock at it.
the gorean ways shouldnt be titled as such simply because these types of male female gender roles and dominent submissive archetypes are present in many cultures around the world, in the anglo-saxon world these ideas we're made popular by anti-baptist radicals during the 17th and 18th centuries in europe, these ideas we're brought over to america by the puritans and has obviously survived until today...you are not gorean because you are not a character in one of his books
the girl in the video is not a lunatic she just lacks one of the main items and this does not just mean physical oh and beauty is in the eyes of the beholder but Exquisite beauty Inside aswell not just physical traits but by her being rude saying all sorts of vile words it is a mistake as a kajira would not be permitted this though as she did say every one makes mistakes it happens this one is not saying she is wrong nor is this one saying she is ugly she is just saying it is not becoming torant
You can not just talk like that is this one spoke like that on here her Master would be very displeased with her. kajira do not speak in such a disrespectful manner.
@tiffanyUkungu I wouldn't say not ALL kajirae speak in any type.. whatever the Master likes that Master wants from his girls.. But a free being not owned can speak any way they want.
ok all you pple whoa re being rude asses check it your taking out time to call this woman all types of names for her views who the hell are you!?, she spoke her mind an di enjoyed what she said fuck off you sadistic bastard who porlw for your next victim to make feel like shit get a life and fiy im gorean she is telling the truth some may not agree but oh well fuck em
@Mizmudgie I have. It's even more insane. At least they believe in proper aliens. Say what you will about Scientologists, they don't believe in slavery.
@Mizmudgie but naw, I ain't pretty. But hoooooly shit this tub of goo is a cure for a priapism. When she stands up her chair smells like a cat shelter.
@murderbunnies judger.. tubby define that.. there is over 400 ads/media telling girls to become a certain way of looking... fiction.. its not the whole books its the philosophy of the books.. like how you take the bible or advice or another lifestyle..
>>>... (darned limit of typing... LOL) Subbiemousie... Thumbs up, you are trying your best to make the point come accross but... Those that are affraid of the natural ways as they have been (maybe cause they think it is backwarded and we should evolve and not stand still... I do not know) will not give in easy. Just do not let it bug you too much, you live life your way and if they can not handle that... Hey there is other places they can go... right? ;) Keep cool... Live as you see fit.
>>... that is actually what people should be explained. The slaves of Gorean life are this by a form of "own choice". For people that live in Gorean lifestyle this is natural order of things. For those that are brought up with a more "modern" (read: evolutional changed) way of life this is totally bringing their concept down and such they feel in a way threatned for it is known to them that the "natural" way is very much alive in the mind of a lot of people in a way. Subbiemouse... >>>
>>... and thought not to be right, the so called feminists and equalists. Which, on itself one could say things about as well, cause it is part of cultural evolution and there has to be divirsaty. The most haunted part in the Gorean Culture is the word "slave" which has gotten a pretty negative meaning due to the "slaves" that have been in the 1800's and such. In Gorean culture however the "slaves" are not the same as the slaves that were used on the plantages. There lays the difference and...>>
The books are actually based on "natural" ways of the majority of animals on this planet. Predominantly the larger amount of various animal kinds have the males as the "dominant" (aka protector and taker of land or food to substain the "group" that he leads) The books actually gives a clear indication that the "natural" way of life as it was in the past still exsists today only the current culture does not let it be freely done for it is something another group has basically renounced ...>>
Sweetie. You aren't gorean, no one is. You take gorean views, and twist them into how you see they are. Which is alright, but don't call it 'gorean'. And 'no'. Kajira doesn't give her opinion unless it pleases her Master. They cannot just say what they wish, unless they want a sleek end of a whip, and if a Master tolerates it, he's not Gorean. And a 'good' Master? Free men do what they wish, it doesn't matter if a slave like you thinks it's wrong. Jump down from your high horse, kajira.
@Sylvira2757 And there you have a point as well but I think to be honest that at this time subbiemouse has no Master and ergo in this she is without guidance and not really said what she is allowed or not allowed to say, there is no correctional form at this time that the video was made. But... then on the other hand, how many "kajira" have a bit of an adapted view of what is or is not a good kajira?
@jaydavee In the books it happend but only when the girl had truely done something that clearly indicated that she was no longer fit as a slave and in no way able to live as a Free Woman. They did not just kill off a slave that they renderd no good for them cause that was, as said in the books, a waiste of good slave meat. It would be foolish to kill off something if you perhaps could make still some coin from it. In our earth concept, no this does not happen, they are punished in various ways
Try living the 1%ers biker club lifestyle as a woman. If you don't know who the 1%ers are and the position women have within them, I suggest looking it up. Compared to them, the Gorean lifestyle IS a fantasy and it is no wonder people will say it is fake. Oh and in reality, it's called BDSM.
actually the books were writen in the 70's actually...I believe the first was writen in 68 I believe...I myself enjoy a Gorean lifestyle....and it truely amazing how people will pass judgement so quickly on others...if someone is happy doing what they are doing and hurting no one else why judge....please people try and respect how people feel and choose to live
i'm conan the barbarian, do not, i repeat, DO NOT TELL ME IM NOT SHOT WITH TESTOSTERONE AND IM NOT AWESOME, FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
lol.....I can't wait for the collapse to happen so when I come out of my bomb shelter all this non sense will be washed away as if it never happened. ::sigh:: Ahh there is nothing like a man and his Assault Rifle...what more could you ask for?
@GraveRevnik I find this quite amusing.. since you've told me you want to be a Gorean Master IRL.. and you play in sl a gorean master though you say bs dot dot dot dot...
@silvermystic2001 You can't blame a person for wanting control in a life they feel is out of control. ...well, actually, you can. Nevermind. Rip on him. He should be shamed for his nonsensical beliefs.
I raise a horn of mead to you in a toast for a wonderful commentary. Although Gor is from a work of fiction it doesn't mean it's "fake" cause you can take it as lightly or as seriously as you want and not me or anyone else has the right to say it's right or wrong. Gor is not for everyone just as the lifestyle in general is not everyone's thing. To each their own as they say. There's alot more in common between Gor and D/s then many care to admit.
I know it must sound bad if i am comparing myself to a dog; but if you met us in reallife; not knowing at first we are a slvae; you will find us very well mannered and kind creatures.
When you first become a slave you don't know what is right and what is wrong. So you learn. You learn to obey and not contridict your free. You learn your place. ultimatley; if you met us in real life; you would see how well trained we are; and yes i use the word trained because we are learning what we never knew, like you train a dog.
For everyone who is judging it isnt about being brainwashed or being beaten or not being able to say no. I mean some of that is apart of it yes; yet the truth about being a slave is to serve you Master or Mistress with the fire burning deep inside your heart.
Gorean books are about a a planet called "Gor" not "Counter Earth. Most of them are about a man named "Tarl Cabot". They are actually still being written as well. Ohhh and Gor does not have two moons as you say, but three. And Gor IS fake, it is fictional. The lifestyle of Goreans is a fantasy. He can not kill you, as he could in the books. However, you can live the fantasy of a Kajira with a Master the same exact way a submissive can with a dominate.
Religion and delusional fantasy are one and the same. Then again, what is "reality" but a collective perception? I suppose if you die in your reality, then it is real. But what if you die in the pursuit of your fantasy? Uh, back to square one . . .
Theres a very big problem with that whole thinking. If someone can't say "no" to their partner, they can't say "yes" either. So pretty much anyone that thinks that concept works for them is fake. And bottom line, we don't live on Gor, sweetcheeks, and you are free to obey or disobey. Thus the whole thing is totally fake even in concept. Not to mention that if your worth is measured by someone else, then you are mentally ill.
I think it's silly that it became so big as to be even considered a lifestyle. Oh I understand it, but I don't see how people would want to live it and Goreans are totally different from BDSM, there are some similarities but it's not the same thing.
think of it this way... Kajira are kinda like Maids or gaisha, willing and trusting to their "masters" intentions but not so much as to follow if they feel it's not right.
But still, I can never live that and personally I think it's crazy.
It's facsinating what one can learn within just a mere 24 hours. Gors are just a rotten bunch of sadists looking to enslave innocent people, it's just sick! CyberWolf is right, beatings, brainwashing, dehumanizing rituals and then murder when the master no longer desires his slave. The FBI should be alerted to this sort of sick crap! A slave is a slave and here I am thinking it was just kinky bedroom forplay. SHAME ON ME!
I like this. ^_^ I'm a new Kajira, and my Master is the greatest on earth, ever!!! I LOVE HIM!!!!!!!!!
Okay, enough of that. Yes you go on and on about 'fantasy' but you see it as being so real, so there, that I can't help but think for a minute that there really is a planet opposite ours........... Thanks. =)
It did take alot of courage for her to make this video.
But i dont agree with a sub or a slave telling people what is wrong and what is right. If she knew anything of the gorean lifestyle or even normal BDSM, she would know that subs and slaves don't do that.
thank you pointing that out. about her age I just thought it took alot of courage to put your face on a video and talk about how she felt. personally I wouldn't go online whining thank you for setting me straight. I dont know to much about the Gorean lifestyle. there a very priviate group of people. She says she has a Master. I wonder if her Master knows she is winning like this online?. I know my Master wouldn't allow me to whine on a video to make a fool out of my self.
May you call Ignoranz an opinion? I may not! Nobody say that the Gorean Ways are worse than BDSM, but they are eaven nothing greater or better or highter or what ever you wanna call them. And when you want to read my opinion, i say we are all only player who play such amusing Games, but real Slavetreatment is the worst on Earth only torture to death is more worste than that!!!
You said "a Kajira is a higher state of submission", seriously.. wtf!?
I have read the books, i live the D/s lifestyle and i'm a submissive.. But NO WAY is a Kajira a higher state of submission, i am not saying they're any less but who are you to make that call?
You also mentioned the words "proper Masters"
that term is based on ones own personal opinion.
I know alot about gor,but im sorry ... your video just gave the "gorean lifestyle" a kick in the gut
1, All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights.They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.
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4, No one shall be held in slavery or servitude; slavery and the slave trade shall be prohibited in all their forms.
Universal Declaration of Human Rights: December 10, 1948
Funny but i happen to be a very athletic woman who lives the Gorean lifestyle. Yes it may have started with John Norman's books but there is a real life group of Ppeople that live that liftstyle. It's quite humours that Ppeople that don't truly understand something, or in essence fear it are the first people to comment. As to the so called BDSM ways that are "intended" funny but i've been a member of the lifestyle for 16 years and i find BDSM "males" To be whining asses who have no real strength
Seams like your one of the "my kink is ok but yours is stupit" faction? And pleas tell me the diffrez betwen Master and Master? Did you know what some kind of submissioncotrakt is? Hm may i am to hot now, I let this here cause when athena can write something stupit stuff, can i eaven XD.
XD Athena tells us she lives the Gorean way for 16Years??? Her Profile says shes 28, lets think a moment, than shes was 12 as she startet to live in the gorean comunity? Only LOL!!!
I dont have to pretend any science fiction to be a dominant man. Masculine dominance is a very natural human trait, I need no fantasy to fulfill my natural role and I make no apology. Lets all just get real and lets all live the D/s way as nature intended.
Put it simply. You have body problems. You'd like someone to magickally take away your problems, and give you sex. You like Gor, because it will take care of all this. Cool. Let's make your first priority this: eat as a Kajira on meal and water, some greens, and nothing else. Forget about how you "present yourself", as a RL slave, this doesn't mean jack shit. And get some sun.
It seems to me that these men who live the so-called "Gorean way" act out of the same twisted need for power as the men who kidnap, rape and imprison women in the illegal sex trade we read about in the newspapers as a third-world atrocity. There are women who have likely been physically, mentally or sexually abused can be manipulated into relationships like these by unscrupulous men.
People who follow this "lifestyle" need to speak with some of the many victims of real world sex slavery. There are hundreds of thousands of women in Africa, South America, Asia and even Europe and America who have been forced into prostitution, sweatshop work, domestic servitude, etc. Slavery is not a fantasy, and neither is the degradation and trauma associated with it.
The sad shit is, it's roleplay. All of it. Being kind, cruel etc. is NOT real.
Sad fuck fact is these stupid women can never get that kind, loving, good NORMAL guy so they go for the roleplaying faggot who thinks he's a Master in the land of Gor. That, is the saddest thing int he whole ordeal.
That's a very narrowminded point of view, like any D/s combination doesn't roleplay a scene occasionally of capture and torture...Gorean ways are simply another form of protocol.
I guess i just don't like how one sided gorean is, there can never be a male slave or a female mistress, theirs just so many rules and such everything is just black and white.
not entirely accurate... there can be male slaves, or Mistresses. Free Men have no respect for male slaves, and generally feel disgusted by them. Free women do take control and enjoy having slaves also... but like the islamic traditions, the Free Woman's status is between a Free Man's and a slave's. Gorean ways are mostly clear cut, but not entirely.
Clearly you have no knowledge of Gor, sagebates. There CAN be male slaves on Gor and there can also be Mistresses. Yet, those Mistresses will still be below Masters.
The reminds me so much of religion, Christianity most specifically, as people take what they want from books and paste it together to mean whatever they want it to mean. It's either real, in whole... or it isn't. It can't be both.
Incidentally, your 'holier than thou' tone definitely doesn't sway one to your point of view.
Why not just say you're a slave and have a Master?! Why insist that Gorean ways are real.... except... that they aren't?!
Y'know what I hate in the lifestyle? The "holier-than-thou" attitude that people take towards others, judging the way they choose to live it. Those who attack the Goreans are just as guilty as you, who just made this video to claim that everyone else who submits is not quite as "high" or as devoted as a kajira.
Official no, but there exist a religion based on Star Wars and the concept of the Force. Now before you insult this, think about it this way, fiction come from human imagination, what is wrong with finding a philosophy in what others have imagined. After all it should not matter if a philosophy was meant as fiction or not as long as it enrich people's lives.
Fuck you too? I'm also a Jedi and I went to the Academy! This is serious shit! We should also get slaves and make sensitive women into whorelike slaves and give them a cute nickname like Kajira or something!
You Sir, are an idiot! I'm a Jedi! I use the force and study mithochorlionionions..THINGS! I USE THE FORCE!
Also on Gor, to put short; **Shitload of books done by a midget pervert who never got laid by beautiful women so he made a fucked up series of books that blatantly copies EVERYTHING from others. You get 1/10. **
Leave the name calling and we could even call this a decent conversation. The next question then is: Why even call yourselves gorean and not just people who are into fantasy roleplay BDSM?
You Sir, are an idiot (statement) and now get only 0/10
WHAT... IN... THE.......
MPSecare 1 week ago
Free women were not proud to hold a submissive nature they were proud in fact NOT too. They were still under the will of men and were little more then collared slaves, still it was a great pride to be a free woman. They were unwilling to be seen as sexual beings until they were put in that role, and were forced to relish it.
ElianaJHowerton 1 week ago
I like this video
I think you're beautiful and Gorean is a real lifestyle. John Norman has a PhD in philosophy and all of the Gorean culture he depicts in the books is very deliberate comprehensive and that includes the parts concerning slaves and the relationship between a Kajira and her master. In my mind, Goreans are simply people who associate with the things that John Norman writes about. It has nothing to do with delusions of living in a made up world
toastyotaku42 2 weeks ago
shrill.
arielbird1 3 weeks ago
ok let me get this right you are a kajira and using furniture, wtf is that, and a slave that uses the word I all the time you u said "I have had Masters" what the hell is that, you need to know your roll girl
TheHomesteadPrepper 1 month ago
look at that fire and passion in her eyes, follow slave speaking here
cherrycoke1897 1 month ago
Interesting that you spend 8 minutes and 47 secs demanding that we not judge you and other Gor kooks. Yet it took you all of 58 seconds to roll your eyes and pass your own judgement on men who consider themselves "slaves." So, we all have to understand your childish "kajira" claims while you trash people that you don't undrstand. OK.
And BTW...can you show us ANY illustrations of GOR that depict a 230 pound kajira? Not sure it's what John Norman had in mind.
stogiebloke 1 month ago
omg DORKS!!!!!!!!!!!
solchitlins 1 month ago
how come 90% of real-life Goreans are overweight?
Ofir84 1 month ago 3
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ilovethevopo 1 month ago
@Ofir84 Goreans have different standards fo beauty. Fat rejects from Earth are considered Gorean perfection because their extra fat helps them get the Slave Orgasm (TM).
ilovethevopo 1 month ago
sounds like a princess gor slut
Earthrush 2 months ago
If your lifestyle comes from a FANTASY BOOK SERIES, it is NOT real. Just in case any of the rest of you were wondering. Since she thinks she's in a life style that doesn't exist.
ohmfgemel 3 months ago
wtf im in a weird part of yahoo wtf Kajira looks like a Heifer..i doubt that is gorean lmao
omen29 3 months ago
@omen29 Maybe she's a bond, Torvies like their women big.
Banter aside, didn't you hear her, she said it's the concept not the reality.
melstan12 2 months ago
you HAD been a kajira... sorry but you are are either a kajira or you arent ... you cannot have HAD been... if you have HAD been a kajira you never were to begin with ...
a kajira is one that you wil always been you were either born it or you were neither it to begin with..
the moment you said i HAD been a kajira .. sorry girl but that instantly told me that you never one to begin with.. just my view
Mastersdiamond43 3 months ago
Truly Enjoyed reading the comments over 2 years ago to present. In the "spirit" of being civil I know of nothing that can measure how much one is " gorean" or " dominant" or even" submissive" they are titles . Dr Lange took historical culture from every part of the world and threw it all together to give us a idea what things" could" have evolved in , I laugh when i see these people below saying what they are, BDSM's roots themselves are based in the experimental sadism of a lunatic (cont)
VictoryM64 3 months ago
(cont) but I see nothing being brought up of their off or online practices, Gor books have been around since the 60's btw.. But it is a persons right to choose and apply what they wish, There is such a thing as consensual slavery, there are contracts, but whats appealing is the morals out of these books, unless you read them entirly you just won't get that.. and it is easy to see who is quick to judge without getting educated about what they are talking about
VictoryM64 3 months ago
I feel I really have to say something to all these people who are being so mean to you subbiemouse. They didn't even listen to what you are saying. No one thinks they are actually from Gor. But Gorean's are different than roleplayers beacuse for some this is a lifestlye, not just fun at a convention like fans of other fictions. They live this life everyday; that makes it a very real part of their lives. Gor is fiction that was inspired by, and in turn inspired real BDSM practices.
dragonmiko 4 months ago
@dragonmiko I'll have to disagree on that one. the rituals in the book have more in depth and personal meaning on a whole level that cannot me obtained in a BDSM relationship, the power exchange is limited because there is use of a safe word, thus comes the question of who is really in control? Gor philosophy mirrors earth. but we as a society today cannot be bothered to understand they ways of what our ancestors did because we are not allowed time for it.
VictoryM64 3 months ago
Real BDSM practices, as you stated came from the Old Guard or what you may know as the Leather guard and some form the writings of Marquis de Sade, it was well established in history before any gorean books were ever written. just FYI
VictoryM64 3 months ago
Her:"Oh I love you and I will do whatever you say. I want to please you. I submit to you.I want to serve you till I die."
Him:"Lose some weight, wash your hair,put on some nice clothes and makeup, and shut your mouth when we are in public."
*Single and looking.
augustskies 5 months ago
its based off books, and its real? yep jump off a bridge now.
sammcneil20 5 months ago
why is it that women that take this up and post videos in their majority are either overweight, or don't fix themselves up to seem attractive? o.o
akissy 5 months ago
@akissy A-MEN! I have vids I've put up talking about Gorean (Online) roleplay. And >.> I try to look in the mirror, before pressing the "record" button. ...not saying I'm like, a hotshot or something, but...yeah.
However, on the flip side. If she's comfy looking like this, then it's on her- it's her life to enjoy.
ihearnothing 3 months ago
@ihearnothing Oh I know, let them do whatever floats their boat. XP It's just something I've seen repeat itself over and over. ._.U
akissy 3 months ago
LOL YOU COULDN'T BE A KAJIRA....KAJIRA'S ARE EXTREMELY HOT!
tangocolt02 6 months ago 2
IT'S BULLSHIT.
tangocolt02 6 months ago
kajira should shut the fuck up and stop making retards of themselves..ohhhhh wait...that's inherant of being gorean.
tangocolt02 6 months ago 3
If you say that you are a Kajira than its more than fair for me to say that i am a Sith or Jedi. Kajiras its the defenition for female slave, true, but IN THE FANTASY book. So what you are is the representation of a role in a fantasy book.
PauloJAQueiroz 6 months ago
Drivel.
iwphilosophy 6 months ago
@slyvira2757
i agree with You, i am a kajira and am currently reading the books.
videolover2308 6 months ago
This is kinda stupid...In my opinion. Gorean...should stop once you log out. Wonder how fucked up your life is that you have to do this. But eh, isnt it Roleplay? Not reality.
undeniableswagg1 7 months ago
People once thought Zeus was real. People once thought Tezcatilopica was real. People think Hubbards nonsense is real. In 300 years, some asshead is going to think Harry Potter and Star Wars is real - a lot of people already do. Lets head this idiocy off at the pass. The universe is vaster and cooler and far more interesting than anything a bunch of dunskys like writers can come up with. Believe in everything, and allow yourself to adjust for errors, rather than believing in nonsense.
murderbunnies 7 months ago
Granted, "beauty" is a fiction based on reality, but it's still based on reality. But it's still reality. This is pure, unadulterated fiction. It's the ramblings of a fantasy/scifi writer. It's as real as l.r. Hubbards nonsense.
There's a reason fewer and fewer people buy into Christianity. I always hear the argument "Christians do the same thing". But it doesn't make it true.
Christianity is stupid. A religion/lifestyle based on a science fiction writer is stupid. It's pretendland.
murderbunnies 7 months ago
imo NEVER tell youtube your gorean.. everyone takes it completely the wrong way.. ignore forget and screw everyone that wants to argue.. more and more ppl love to argue about shit that they do in society anywho.. so i laugh at them because they do the same damn thing they tell everyone that they never do lol
silvermystic2001 7 months ago
I DO KNOW about this lifestyle and you are just like i was...it's nothing more than abusive "owners" and abused "slaves"...you'll get it one day.
taylormadediva2009 8 months ago
this is the best video I have seen in a long time.. thank you for making this video...I am a sub/slave interested in he aspects of Gor. and searching for a Gorean teacher. I do believe there is a real Gorean lifestyle it's harder to find.. there not in chatrooms like bdsm Master are in. that's only my opnion..
brandydawn37 9 months ago
free woman are proud to hold a submissive nature?bull shit.DO NOT SPEAK FOR OTHERS YOU CLEARLY KNOW NOTHING ABOUT!gorean is a roleplay thing for those who dont know, some do practice slave/master in real life bc they want to feel wanted/need a purpose.females who become kajira's(slave girl)do it bc they crave attention."masters"(weak males)<=explained.kijarus's(slave boy) just wanna get laid usually castrated..FREE WOMAN/PANTHER.woman of self power/runs everything btw dont speak unless spoken to
MyAngelsEyes 10 months ago
i am a slave in rl i choose it the fact that my master lets me have a comp is nice
Crazybitchjuggalett1 11 months ago
They aren't real.. I don't see slaves walking down the street of my city.. It's a bedroom thing lady. It's bullshit and just in your head.
Reduxalicious 11 months ago
@Reduxalicious less common, not that it doesnt exist...its a fetish...its called bdsm
taurileoquarias 11 months ago
@Reduxalicious tell me there is not a bible that you believe to take as reality? its the same concept lol..
silvermystic2001 7 months ago
@silvermystic2001 I don't believe in any bible actually seeing as I'm an agnostic...
Reduxalicious 7 months ago
Yeah, hi?
Last time I checked, this was reality. Where are you from, Wisconsin?
Sociopathics 11 months ago
your avatar is gorean because she exists in a gorean roleplay sim, rather you live irl by a submissive lifestyle, that is of course your choice and i will not knock at it.
JHE192 1 year ago
the gorean ways shouldnt be titled as such simply because these types of male female gender roles and dominent submissive archetypes are present in many cultures around the world, in the anglo-saxon world these ideas we're made popular by anti-baptist radicals during the 17th and 18th centuries in europe, these ideas we're brought over to america by the puritans and has obviously survived until today...you are not gorean because you are not a character in one of his books
JHE192 1 year ago
the girl in the video is not a lunatic she just lacks one of the main items and this does not just mean physical oh and beauty is in the eyes of the beholder but Exquisite beauty Inside aswell not just physical traits but by her being rude saying all sorts of vile words it is a mistake as a kajira would not be permitted this though as she did say every one makes mistakes it happens this one is not saying she is wrong nor is this one saying she is ugly she is just saying it is not becoming torant
tiffanyUkungu 1 year ago
You can not just talk like that is this one spoke like that on here her Master would be very displeased with her. kajira do not speak in such a disrespectful manner.
tiffanyUkungu 1 year ago 5
@tiffanyUkungu I wouldn't say not ALL kajirae speak in any type.. whatever the Master likes that Master wants from his girls.. But a free being not owned can speak any way they want.
silvermystic2001 7 months ago
If you can't define who you are without using a set of sci-fi books to pattern your life. then I feel very sorry for you.
robojox10 1 year ago 2
@robojox10 And if you can't use a passed down book.. bible about your life.. I feel very sorry for you.
silvermystic2001 7 months ago
ok all you pple whoa re being rude asses check it your taking out time to call this woman all types of names for her views who the hell are you!?, she spoke her mind an di enjoyed what she said fuck off you sadistic bastard who porlw for your next victim to make feel like shit get a life and fiy im gorean she is telling the truth some may not agree but oh well fuck em
Nakisakm2 1 year ago
@Nakisakm2 agreed
silvermystic2001 7 months ago
You people are all fucking lunatics who take fiction books WAY too seriously.
And the chick in the video is a tubby lunatic.
murderbunnies 1 year ago
@murderbunnies
LOL..look at scientology!!!
Mizmudgie 1 year ago
@Mizmudgie I have. It's even more insane. At least they believe in proper aliens. Say what you will about Scientologists, they don't believe in slavery.
Unless you're a member of SeaOrg.
murderbunnies 1 year ago
@murderbunnies
Kinda like scientology? And I am sure your a raving beauty.
Mizmudgie 1 year ago
@Mizmudgie I won $200 in a beauty pageant in monopoly a couple weeks ago.
murderbunnies 1 year ago
@Mizmudgie but naw, I ain't pretty. But hoooooly shit this tub of goo is a cure for a priapism. When she stands up her chair smells like a cat shelter.
murderbunnies 1 year ago
@murderbunnies judger.. tubby define that.. there is over 400 ads/media telling girls to become a certain way of looking... fiction.. its not the whole books its the philosophy of the books.. like how you take the bible or advice or another lifestyle..
silvermystic2001 7 months ago
>>>... (darned limit of typing... LOL) Subbiemousie... Thumbs up, you are trying your best to make the point come accross but... Those that are affraid of the natural ways as they have been (maybe cause they think it is backwarded and we should evolve and not stand still... I do not know) will not give in easy. Just do not let it bug you too much, you live life your way and if they can not handle that... Hey there is other places they can go... right? ;) Keep cool... Live as you see fit.
DutchieOnline 1 year ago
>>... that is actually what people should be explained. The slaves of Gorean life are this by a form of "own choice". For people that live in Gorean lifestyle this is natural order of things. For those that are brought up with a more "modern" (read: evolutional changed) way of life this is totally bringing their concept down and such they feel in a way threatned for it is known to them that the "natural" way is very much alive in the mind of a lot of people in a way. Subbiemouse... >>>
DutchieOnline 1 year ago
>>... and thought not to be right, the so called feminists and equalists. Which, on itself one could say things about as well, cause it is part of cultural evolution and there has to be divirsaty. The most haunted part in the Gorean Culture is the word "slave" which has gotten a pretty negative meaning due to the "slaves" that have been in the 1800's and such. In Gorean culture however the "slaves" are not the same as the slaves that were used on the plantages. There lays the difference and...>>
DutchieOnline 1 year ago
The books are actually based on "natural" ways of the majority of animals on this planet. Predominantly the larger amount of various animal kinds have the males as the "dominant" (aka protector and taker of land or food to substain the "group" that he leads) The books actually gives a clear indication that the "natural" way of life as it was in the past still exsists today only the current culture does not let it be freely done for it is something another group has basically renounced ...>>
DutchieOnline 1 year ago
She has not understood "the concept" , by the Priest Kings how stupid can one be?
wolfgangbrand123 1 year ago
Sweetie. You aren't gorean, no one is. You take gorean views, and twist them into how you see they are. Which is alright, but don't call it 'gorean'. And 'no'. Kajira doesn't give her opinion unless it pleases her Master. They cannot just say what they wish, unless they want a sleek end of a whip, and if a Master tolerates it, he's not Gorean. And a 'good' Master? Free men do what they wish, it doesn't matter if a slave like you thinks it's wrong. Jump down from your high horse, kajira.
Sylvira2757 1 year ago 20
@Sylvira2757 And there you have a point as well but I think to be honest that at this time subbiemouse has no Master and ergo in this she is without guidance and not really said what she is allowed or not allowed to say, there is no correctional form at this time that the video was made. But... then on the other hand, how many "kajira" have a bit of an adapted view of what is or is not a good kajira?
DutchieOnline 1 year ago
@Sylvira2757 You win the internet.
tangocolt02 6 months ago
@Sylvira2757
Gee the first thing she said was it was her "point of view" fkn retard lol....
69bodean 2 months ago
she is truly rt for i am a master but not gor
genemnc 1 year ago
I'm still a little blurry on whether the feeding the slave to sleen is reality or fantasy.
jaydavee 1 year ago
@jaydavee In the books it happend but only when the girl had truely done something that clearly indicated that she was no longer fit as a slave and in no way able to live as a Free Woman. They did not just kill off a slave that they renderd no good for them cause that was, as said in the books, a waiste of good slave meat. It would be foolish to kill off something if you perhaps could make still some coin from it. In our earth concept, no this does not happen, they are punished in various ways
DutchieOnline 1 year ago
FUCK YOU I'M A DRAGON!
sweeterthananything 1 year ago 17
@sweeterthananything lmfao thats messed up
lasvegas89032 1 year ago
Try living the 1%ers biker club lifestyle as a woman. If you don't know who the 1%ers are and the position women have within them, I suggest looking it up. Compared to them, the Gorean lifestyle IS a fantasy and it is no wonder people will say it is fake. Oh and in reality, it's called BDSM.
MmRrism 1 year ago
actually the books were writen in the 70's actually...I believe the first was writen in 68 I believe...I myself enjoy a Gorean lifestyle....and it truely amazing how people will pass judgement so quickly on others...if someone is happy doing what they are doing and hurting no one else why judge....please people try and respect how people feel and choose to live
MasterDimos 1 year ago
You know saying you like S&M is ok, you do not need to hide behind some bullshit sci-fi novel series.
vldster 1 year ago
i'm conan the barbarian, do not, i repeat, DO NOT TELL ME IM NOT SHOT WITH TESTOSTERONE AND IM NOT AWESOME, FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
/b/tard reporting.
wontonmaster666 1 year ago
@wontonmaster666 lofl
silvermystic2001 7 months ago
Well thnx about telling us about gorean and kajira. But dude you put this on youtube you're gonna be judged lol....
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ibreakhrts 1 year ago
lol.....I can't wait for the collapse to happen so when I come out of my bomb shelter all this non sense will be washed away as if it never happened. ::sigh:: Ahh there is nothing like a man and his Assault Rifle...what more could you ask for?
splynch1980 1 year ago
bs....
GraveRevnik 1 year ago
@GraveRevnik I find this quite amusing.. since you've told me you want to be a Gorean Master IRL.. and you play in sl a gorean master though you say bs dot dot dot dot...
silvermystic2001 7 months ago
@silvermystic2001 You can't blame a person for wanting control in a life they feel is out of control. ...well, actually, you can. Nevermind. Rip on him. He should be shamed for his nonsensical beliefs.
murderbunnies 7 months ago
Ah maybe because it is fake?? What part about 'fantasy book' didn't you understand.sighs...try getting out of the house.
nareea 1 year ago
@nareea its not a "fantasy book" its a scifi book...sorta l like the trekkers for the movie, star trek?
silvermystic2001 7 months ago
@silvermystic2001 Tomato, tamato. it's all made up.
murderbunnies 7 months ago
@silvermystic2001 And how many people think their trekkis?
nareea 7 months ago
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lollipopfop 6 months ago
@silvermystic2001 It's fantasy.
tangocolt02 6 months ago
I raise a horn of mead to you in a toast for a wonderful commentary. Although Gor is from a work of fiction it doesn't mean it's "fake" cause you can take it as lightly or as seriously as you want and not me or anyone else has the right to say it's right or wrong. Gor is not for everyone just as the lifestyle in general is not everyone's thing. To each their own as they say. There's alot more in common between Gor and D/s then many care to admit.
loranddeka 1 year ago
beautiful. I especially like the way you describe service to your Master. This is very candid, and very sweet.
Kamikazexchild 1 year ago
are there korean goreans? :)
pete5668 1 year ago 3
Gor is just roleplay ......hmm ... and Goreans ... weak men who need women at their feet to feel themselves stronger ? ...lol, not my cup of tea ;-)
BlackDynamiteWoman 1 year ago
well .. ehh.. hmm.. *coughs*.... *clears throat*....whisper: goreans is fantasy.... its fake..
"support femdom"
keith99 1 year ago
I know it must sound bad if i am comparing myself to a dog; but if you met us in reallife; not knowing at first we are a slvae; you will find us very well mannered and kind creatures.
oXcreativeclutzxD 1 year ago
When you first become a slave you don't know what is right and what is wrong. So you learn. You learn to obey and not contridict your free. You learn your place. ultimatley; if you met us in real life; you would see how well trained we are; and yes i use the word trained because we are learning what we never knew, like you train a dog.
oXcreativeclutzxD 1 year ago
For everyone who is judging it isnt about being brainwashed or being beaten or not being able to say no. I mean some of that is apart of it yes; yet the truth about being a slave is to serve you Master or Mistress with the fire burning deep inside your heart.
oXcreativeclutzxD 1 year ago
She needs Gaging lol
Bifftaman 1 year ago
Gorean books are about a a planet called "Gor" not "Counter Earth. Most of them are about a man named "Tarl Cabot". They are actually still being written as well. Ohhh and Gor does not have two moons as you say, but three. And Gor IS fake, it is fictional. The lifestyle of Goreans is a fantasy. He can not kill you, as he could in the books. However, you can live the fantasy of a Kajira with a Master the same exact way a submissive can with a dominate.
AmberMelby24 2 years ago
LOL, such childish nonsense! They are all foolish & it's just ROLEPLAY, & they need to GROW UP.
deborahinwi 2 years ago
Religion and delusional fantasy are one and the same. Then again, what is "reality" but a collective perception? I suppose if you die in your reality, then it is real. But what if you die in the pursuit of your fantasy? Uh, back to square one . . .
whitting54 2 years ago
Theres a very big problem with that whole thinking. If someone can't say "no" to their partner, they can't say "yes" either. So pretty much anyone that thinks that concept works for them is fake. And bottom line, we don't live on Gor, sweetcheeks, and you are free to obey or disobey. Thus the whole thing is totally fake even in concept. Not to mention that if your worth is measured by someone else, then you are mentally ill.
lollipopfop 2 years ago
I think it's silly that it became so big as to be even considered a lifestyle. Oh I understand it, but I don't see how people would want to live it and Goreans are totally different from BDSM, there are some similarities but it's not the same thing.
think of it this way... Kajira are kinda like Maids or gaisha, willing and trusting to their "masters" intentions but not so much as to follow if they feel it's not right.
But still, I can never live that and personally I think it's crazy.
DarkLarva 2 years ago
It's facsinating what one can learn within just a mere 24 hours. Gors are just a rotten bunch of sadists looking to enslave innocent people, it's just sick! CyberWolf is right, beatings, brainwashing, dehumanizing rituals and then murder when the master no longer desires his slave. The FBI should be alerted to this sort of sick crap! A slave is a slave and here I am thinking it was just kinky bedroom forplay. SHAME ON ME!
Heed CyberWolf's warnings!
BlueKyne 2 years ago
I think the FBI has better things to do then to go to the rescue of people with low self esteem and bad boundaries.
lollipopfop 2 years ago
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BlueKyne 2 years ago
It's bullshit.
tangocolt02 2 years ago
I like this. ^_^ I'm a new Kajira, and my Master is the greatest on earth, ever!!! I LOVE HIM!!!!!!!!!
Okay, enough of that. Yes you go on and on about 'fantasy' but you see it as being so real, so there, that I can't help but think for a minute that there really is a planet opposite ours........... Thanks. =)
ArionaMew 2 years ago
A wild snorlax appears
Slowdownandthink 2 years ago 2
@Slowdownandthink RAICHU! I CHOOSE YOU!
tangocolt02 2 years ago
I agree with you on that point....
It did take alot of courage for her to make this video.
But i dont agree with a sub or a slave telling people what is wrong and what is right. If she knew anything of the gorean lifestyle or even normal BDSM, she would know that subs and slaves don't do that.
MsCheekybrat 2 years ago 2
Kajira shouldnt be saying what's what.. . subs are a different story kthx.
tangocolt02 2 years ago 3
thank you pointing that out. about her age I just thought it took alot of courage to put your face on a video and talk about how she felt. personally I wouldn't go online whining thank you for setting me straight. I dont know to much about the Gorean lifestyle. there a very priviate group of people. She says she has a Master. I wonder if her Master knows she is winning like this online?. I know my Master wouldn't allow me to whine on a video to make a fool out of my self.
kellyy2020 2 years ago
I agree that everyone is entitled to their own opinion, with that said, i wasn't being mean in the slightest.
She said her opinion and i said mine.
It just so happens that her "opinion" is wrong.
MsCheekybrat 2 years ago
these are her views.. her feelings... her opion,,, why are you guys are so mean...make your video if you think she is so wrong
kellyy2020 2 years ago 4
@kellyy2020
May you call Ignoranz an opinion? I may not! Nobody say that the Gorean Ways are worse than BDSM, but they are eaven nothing greater or better or highter or what ever you wanna call them. And when you want to read my opinion, i say we are all only player who play such amusing Games, but real Slavetreatment is the worst on Earth only torture to death is more worste than that!!!
Axon0p62 2 years ago 2
The first book was published in the 60's.
You said "a Kajira is a higher state of submission", seriously.. wtf!?
I have read the books, i live the D/s lifestyle and i'm a submissive.. But NO WAY is a Kajira a higher state of submission, i am not saying they're any less but who are you to make that call?
You also mentioned the words "proper Masters"
that term is based on ones own personal opinion.
I know alot about gor,but im sorry ... your video just gave the "gorean lifestyle" a kick in the gut
MsCheekybrat 2 years ago
I can only agree^^.
Axon0p62 2 years ago
1, All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights.They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.
...
4, No one shall be held in slavery or servitude; slavery and the slave trade shall be prohibited in all their forms.
Universal Declaration of Human Rights: December 10, 1948
ImperatorZor 2 years ago
What if they wish to be? Isn't it their choice as a free person to do it? :P
tangocolt02 2 years ago
Funny but i happen to be a very athletic woman who lives the Gorean lifestyle. Yes it may have started with John Norman's books but there is a real life group of Ppeople that live that liftstyle. It's quite humours that Ppeople that don't truly understand something, or in essence fear it are the first people to comment. As to the so called BDSM ways that are "intended" funny but i've been a member of the lifestyle for 16 years and i find BDSM "males" To be whining asses who have no real strength
athenabrightblood 2 years ago
Cause you know all BDSM males?!?
Seams like your one of the "my kink is ok but yours is stupit" faction? And pleas tell me the diffrez betwen Master and Master? Did you know what some kind of submissioncotrakt is? Hm may i am to hot now, I let this here cause when athena can write something stupit stuff, can i eaven XD.
Axon0p62 2 years ago
XD Athena tells us she lives the Gorean way for 16Years??? Her Profile says shes 28, lets think a moment, than shes was 12 as she startet to live in the gorean comunity? Only LOL!!!
Axon0p62 2 years ago
Wow fail... No real strength eh? Would love you to meet some of the Dominants I know then..
tangocolt02 2 years ago
The typical example of loosing reality.
Elmoriel 2 years ago
it was the 60's when the first book came out :)
CandyAngel1803 2 years ago
I dont have to pretend any science fiction to be a dominant man. Masculine dominance is a very natural human trait, I need no fantasy to fulfill my natural role and I make no apology. Lets all just get real and lets all live the D/s way as nature intended.
wolfmankayldotcom 2 years ago
This is tragically pitiful. Your "explanation" is a delusional ranting of fantasy nonsense. Sad.
simbelmont 2 years ago
I think it is a way for obese girls with low self-esteem to feel sexy. Most gorean slaves are fat ugly pigs no real man would want
MannequinExistence 2 years ago 3
So women fought for decades for equality, so that fat girls with no self esteem can feel wanted. Nauseating.
keywestWTF 2 years ago
That's funny, I wrote my comment before reading yours. It is sooo true, what you said btw.
MannequinExistence 2 years ago
Put it simply. You have body problems. You'd like someone to magickally take away your problems, and give you sex. You like Gor, because it will take care of all this. Cool. Let's make your first priority this: eat as a Kajira on meal and water, some greens, and nothing else. Forget about how you "present yourself", as a RL slave, this doesn't mean jack shit. And get some sun.
teleny5 2 years ago 2
I think it is a way for obese girls with low self-esteem to feel sexy. Most gorean slaves are fat ugly pigs no real man would want
MannequinExistence 2 years ago
LOLZ, SO TRUE!
MannequinExistence 2 years ago
@teleny5 actually gorean slaves tend to eat gruel as their Masters are given it to them. They rarely get greens...
oXcreativeclutzxD 1 year ago
You're fat and pathetic and love rape a bit too much.
xileh 2 years ago
it has not a thing to do with rape
kornguy26 2 years ago
Just because they are "nerds" does not mean they could not be capable of committing criminal acts. Just Google "Lee Thompson" and "Darlington."
ForwardN2Unknown 2 years ago
It seems to me that these men who live the so-called "Gorean way" act out of the same twisted need for power as the men who kidnap, rape and imprison women in the illegal sex trade we read about in the newspapers as a third-world atrocity. There are women who have likely been physically, mentally or sexually abused can be manipulated into relationships like these by unscrupulous men.
ForwardN2Unknown 2 years ago 2
People who follow this "lifestyle" need to speak with some of the many victims of real world sex slavery. There are hundreds of thousands of women in Africa, South America, Asia and even Europe and America who have been forced into prostitution, sweatshop work, domestic servitude, etc. Slavery is not a fantasy, and neither is the degradation and trauma associated with it.
ForwardN2Unknown 2 years ago 2
The sad shit is, it's roleplay. All of it. Being kind, cruel etc. is NOT real.
Sad fuck fact is these stupid women can never get that kind, loving, good NORMAL guy so they go for the roleplaying faggot who thinks he's a Master in the land of Gor. That, is the saddest thing int he whole ordeal.
CelGamer 2 years ago 2
That's a very narrowminded point of view, like any D/s combination doesn't roleplay a scene occasionally of capture and torture...Gorean ways are simply another form of protocol.
ArrowDel 2 years ago
I guess i just don't like how one sided gorean is, there can never be a male slave or a female mistress, theirs just so many rules and such everything is just black and white.
sagebates 2 years ago
not entirely accurate... there can be male slaves, or Mistresses. Free Men have no respect for male slaves, and generally feel disgusted by them. Free women do take control and enjoy having slaves also... but like the islamic traditions, the Free Woman's status is between a Free Man's and a slave's. Gorean ways are mostly clear cut, but not entirely.
KingJarreth 2 years ago
Clearly you have no knowledge of Gor, sagebates. There CAN be male slaves on Gor and there can also be Mistresses. Yet, those Mistresses will still be below Masters.
BluntActivist2008 2 years ago
and its 3 moons:/
ShinesKitten 2 years ago
The reminds me so much of religion, Christianity most specifically, as people take what they want from books and paste it together to mean whatever they want it to mean. It's either real, in whole... or it isn't. It can't be both.
Incidentally, your 'holier than thou' tone definitely doesn't sway one to your point of view.
Why not just say you're a slave and have a Master?! Why insist that Gorean ways are real.... except... that they aren't?!
sweetredhead 2 years ago
yes it is like Christianity neither one follows the texts they claim to love
kornguy26 2 years ago
Y'know what I hate in the lifestyle? The "holier-than-thou" attitude that people take towards others, judging the way they choose to live it. Those who attack the Goreans are just as guilty as you, who just made this video to claim that everyone else who submits is not quite as "high" or as devoted as a kajira.
Pot, meet kettle.
GekkoGeck0 2 years ago
I just wanted to tell you its bullshit. Enjoy your fake life since your real one sucks
FireStarter972 2 years ago
my real life is great thank you very much exactly how i want it to be
kornguy26 2 years ago
Don't tell me I'm not a Jedi. I've had Jedi Masters and I've followed Jedi ways. This is serious business!
sinchume 2 years ago 16
Seriously?! You too?! We should start an official organization of jedi!
OmegafartX 2 years ago
HAHAHA. There is one that takes it seriously called The Force Academy.
"Serious business" indeed. LOL
GekkoGeck0 2 years ago
Official no, but there exist a religion based on Star Wars and the concept of the Force. Now before you insult this, think about it this way, fiction come from human imagination, what is wrong with finding a philosophy in what others have imagined. After all it should not matter if a philosophy was meant as fiction or not as long as it enrich people's lives.
Venefica82 2 years ago
Fuck you too? I'm also a Jedi and I went to the Academy! This is serious shit! We should also get slaves and make sensitive women into whorelike slaves and give them a cute nickname like Kajira or something!
CelGamer 2 years ago
you are an idiot who does not study before making a comment
kornguy26 2 years ago
You Sir, are an idiot! I'm a Jedi! I use the force and study mithochorlionionions..THINGS! I USE THE FORCE!
Also on Gor, to put short; **Shitload of books done by a midget pervert who never got laid by beautiful women so he made a fucked up series of books that blatantly copies EVERYTHING from others. You get 1/10. **
CelGamer 2 years ago
wow not only an idiot a true moron not a lot of people who rp gor even follow the books that's like saying Christians give two shits about the bible
kornguy26 2 years ago
Leave the name calling and we could even call this a decent conversation. The next question then is: Why even call yourselves gorean and not just people who are into fantasy roleplay BDSM?
You Sir, are an idiot (statement) and now get only 0/10
CelGamer 2 years ago
we call it gor becasue its more then just sex and most kajiras are only restrained when they are punished
oh and the only star wars i accept are the original
kornguy26 2 years ago
You're a fucking tool.
CelGamer 2 years ago
@sinchume I am a Dark Jedi! i challenge you to a saber duel in the sewers of tatooine! LOL OMG!
SuperGamer68 1 year ago