The Simplicity of Kathryn Kuhlman

[naomigracewest]

"the only thing she had going for her is God liked to hangout with her, that seems to be enough" WOW. I agree :)

[ezcorbin]

these comments ! they make me sad! sad because we as the body of Christ just bicker about who's right and who is wrong, you say this is a false teacher or that a false prophet, what if i would tell you the church as you know it, is not the church he wants, the one we built was man made! the that he is building is spirit built by Jesus! in the end we will all be like peter and like peter we will sink if we take our eyes off Jesus! this is no game this is war! and not with each other!

[ibethelca]

There is a revival happening in Toronto Canada at Bethel Kingdom Ministries its spreading like a wild fire. Many people are being healed as they walk through the doors, many have felt and seen the presence of God's angels. One of the angels had a gold sword in his hand. America is at the point in between mercy and judgement. Praise God It's time. Its time to get right and get back to God or face the impending judgement that is almost here. "Missing limbs will be restored in this last revival."

[elecdon]

jesus spoke in parables - simplicity - kathryn had reverence and respect and gave herself fully to the holy spirit. You will never know the holy spirit like miss kuhlman. You joke ,but the joke is on you because you missed the greatest key to success

I must decrease and HE - JESUS must increase. You dont get it

[acpgiga]

@elecdon he was speaking well and not making fun...you missed the whole point he was making...

[elecdon]

jesus spoke with simplicity. Shame on you ! Why are you laughing at an annointed servant of god. THis speaks volume to your blindness and ignorance of the holy spirit. Even a child can discern the real from the false. I am ashamed of you and your congregation I concur with you stellanathaniel. Few carry god's presence. Pride and arrogance will get you nothing but tinkling brass. I would rather have kuhlman's spirit then your puffed up arrogance any day. Shame God forgive you for your sin

[Peace7Maker]

@elecdon I suppose that was a reply out of love and not out of offense...

[stellanathaniel]

So whats funny about Kathryn Kulman to even make the preacher and the congregation laugh about her gifts or the way she ministers.

[stellanathaniel]

Bill Johnson must have forgotten that without the Holy Spirit , nothing can be done. I cannot believe that he is putting down a woman who God chose and used in a mighty way. He must have forgotten the scripture that says "touch not my anointed and do my prophets no harm". I have also see Bill Johnson preaching on utube. How in the world do you expect me to listen to your messages when you are against the Holy Spirit. Anyone can preach the word, but a few carry his presence. Repent.

[jennjenn209]

@stellanathaniel well if you were really listening to what he said, he's talking about how sometimes we think that we have to be a great preacher, singer, or whatever to be used by God. its not about what our giftings are... its about God just loving us and wanting to b on with us. and he's not against the Holy spirit. have you ever been to one of his meetings? has he every laid hands on you and prayed? have you been there when God shows up on him? I didnt think so. if someone did this to you,

[jennjenn209]

posted videos about you, slandered you all over the internet and didnt listen to a thing you said and took everything out of context, I'd still be your friend. Criticism in the form of a question is not a question. But when you ask how in God's name can u listen to him, its simple; do it in God's name. the bible says you will judge the tree by its fruit: so, in his church, he's not using miracles 2 make money, ppl are getting healed saved delivered. bill johnson IS a carrier of God's presence.

[RadicallyLowly]

i THINK THIS MAN IS A bozo!!

[rogbec01]

You guys have got to be kidding? are you blind? You search the scriptures trying to find Christ when he is right there in front of you! People are healed, have deep repentance, delivered of evil spirits, bondages, have a greater love of God, Jesus is honoured and you say its bad fruit - just because a few strange things happen you dont understand? its pretty easy - God is good - he does good things, Devil is bad he does bad things. I know its simple, but pause and think about it!!

[escapina]

with the same mesure that you are judging you will be judge so never ever say someone is false cause only God can say that !!there will be so many sorprises in heaven ...

[rmcgov00leeuedu]

Ha ha, boy. If I had ONE DIME for every time I heard the little boy cry 'false prophet', I could buy youtube.

why don't SOMEONE explain to me where these healing miracles are coming from? Hmmm? (see my vid)

[zhrob1]

rmcgov00leeuedu

JEsus is the Healer.

[rmcgov00leeuedu]

I'm aware.

[afrikaaner999]

Have you viewed the videos about being "drunk in the Spirit", featuring Hagin and Copeland? Sickening fools! In addition to my previous comments that religious leaders should legally be bound to undergo psychological evaluation, I believe they should also be required to have worked in the real world at demanding jobs for a minumum of, say, 10 years. They also need to be familiarised with those medical and legal issues which affect so many so deeply.

[Utopiang]

Amen, afrikaaner999. That video is vile and it typifies the evil in the Word of Faith movement.

The man in this video, Bill Johnson, is part of Patricia King's occult movement called "Extreme Prophetic" which is equally as wicked but in a different way.

There is an article about King and Todd Bentley on the net by Let Us Reason Ministries titled, "Fools for Christ- or just Fools"

There is a proliferation of false teachers today and the thing they all have in common is filthy lucre.

[brucesterman]

Yes I used to think that ! But like 2000 years ago in Corinth when they were "drunk in the Spirit", I took a second look and the meaning was there........

[afrikaaner999]

I would not necessarily describe her as dangerous, as she may have considered herself well-motivated. But there has been such muddled teaching and understanding in some church circles over the years on some important points. I hate to say this, but experience has taught me this clearly - every pastor and certainly every charismatic religious leader should be required to undergo professional psychological screening, and the results made available to everyone.

[Utopiang]

afrikaaner999, I lovingly encourage you to read the article "Kathryn Kuhlman from Occult ABC by Kurt Koch". It is an excellent, balanced examination of her ministry using credible sources and records.

Kuhlman is regarded as a false teacher by respected members of the Body of Christ who have studied her ministry and teachings.

False ministers, unfortunately, are prolific in the Charismatic movement.

[afrikaaner999]

I researched her...caught during 1930's at a Colorado church parking lot, compromised with another man, also in later years with a much younger Greek man. Mystery surronds why she had to leave areas where she had been preaching. I attended her 1967 meetings in Los Angeles - very disappointed and so walked away from the whole thing.

[Utopiang]

Praise God, afrikaaner999, you were protected from a very dangerous and heretical false ministry.

[pianohbc]

Kathryn Kuhlman was not a Bible preaching person- she got her inspiration from the heretic William Branagh. She is a part of the theads leading to Tornoto and now into the emergent church. True believers beware- the only way to be with God in truth is through prayer and Bible study- none other

[KingdomInternational]

You say the only to be with God in truth is through prayer and Bible study, I thought the Bible said that Jesus was the only way?

[Utopiang]

For the sake of Jesus Christ, please look up the article on the internet: Kathryn Kuhlman from Occult ABC by Kurt Koch".

God bless you.

[bgirlsnowflakez]

I read it. In one place there are 4 points, and I looked up the scriptual points that apparently backed the claims up and none of them are quoted in context. The first point especially is way out. The whole article reminded me of Matt 12:22-32 oh how Jesus was displaying the miraculous and he was accused of being aligned with Satan. Look how he replied it makes sense. Also he makes a point about not blaspheming the spirit which I feel was targeted in this document.

[Utopiang]

Hi bgirlsnowflakez, I am deeply saddened that your discernment has been dulled by false teachers and false doctrines. The article is sound to the enlightened believer and proves categorically that Kathryn Kuhlman was a false teacher and healer. That you could not make sense of a truthful and loving articles is very troubling.

I will pray for you and I ask my brothers and sisters to join me in prayer in the name of Jesus Christ. Amen.

[bgirlsnowflakez]

Thank you for your prayers. I haven't been deceived by any false teaching by K. Kuhlman entirely becaues I've never even listened to anything she said. I just looked at the article and weighed it up with scripture. There are two ways people use scripture: a) to find something that reaffirms their own belief, or b) by looking at the scripture and changing their belief to accommodate what they've read.. that particular document is a classic example of a).

[Utopiang]

bgirlsnowflakez, could you please tell me which scriptures were incorrectly applied?

God bless you.

[bgirlsnowflakez]

Sure thing :-). In point 1 of the 4 points, it says the Holy spirit doesn't allow Himself to be given a central space, the Holy Spirit makes central. The given verse John 16:13, says the Holy Spirit will speak only what He hears and doesn't reference Jesus at all. You could say the Son makes the Father the central theme from John 5:19.

[bgirlsnowflakez]

1 Corinthians 10:11 highlights the Holy Spirits relationship with God. I know theories on the trinity are endless, but they appear to me (based on my limted knowledge) to be the same being divided into 3 parts with different function. There is hierarchy between Jesus and God though (Ephesians 1:10)

[bgirlsnowflakez]

Statement 2:The baptism of the Holy Spirit is identical with regeneration. This is an interesting statement, I'm not sure how to interpret it I haven't read the report it refers to indepth. You can be born of the spirit, and the greek word used in John 3:5 is genna which means literally born. It says in 2 Cor 5:17 that any man in christ is a new creation. But baptism is different. In greek it is "baptisma" which is not "genna" and "baptisma" means full immersion.

[bgirlsnowflakez]

If you read Eph 5:18 in greek "filled" is translated "phlro/w" which means filled to the brim, and this is not equal to "baptisma" which is full immersion and is in no way directly correlated to regeneration. You couldn't even say that being born of the spirit could relate to regeneration, but when we're born of the spirit our old nature dies i.e. Galations 2:20, 2 Corinthians 5:17.

If u support these points, and can find scripture to support them, I'ld love to see them.

[bgirlsnowflakez]

By "support these points", I mean the ones in the document posted. Also if you really wholeheartedly believe you have found one, check it's root definition, and also note that if it's in hebrew, hebrew language is full of idioms and that will affect the translation. Also I noted that the author doesn't even name all his sources or references them adequately which breaches the laws of copyright.

[Utopiang]

The author states:

"I must thank most warmly my two principal informants. Mrs. H. Maynard Johnson, wife of the technical director of the Eifel Hospital in Minneapolis, collected twenty-eight cases of healing, with full addresses, from Minneapolis and the surrounding area for me. I also received an excellent, scientifically based article from Dr. H. H. Ehrenstein of Songtime Boston. Names of further assistants will appear in the course of the chapter."

And he does so faithfully.

[bgirlsnowflakez]

he also references "a well-known professor of theology at the University of Tubingen who has the reputation among believers of being a born-again Christian" and doesn't name him. They are all not academically referenced, and I have yet to check out the validity of his sources.

[Utopiang]

I am sure that if you were to contact the site, they would be happy to oblige you with the information you require. In the meantime, there are many more articles available and some should be able to cite sources that will prove satisfactory.

[Utopiang]

This is explained by my comment regarding regeneration and baptism as separate occurrences.

The spiritual (and water) baptism occurs (Acts 1:5) once whilst regeneration (Titus 3:4-7) is a process and results in a faithful believer being filled with the Holy Spirit thus the term spirit-filled.

[Utopiang]

Regeneration is a gradual process that occurs through Christ BY the power of the Holy Spirit whilst baptism is the sealing of the saved person upon salvation. THEN baptism by water is performed as an outward sign of an inward spiritual conversion.

[Utopiang]

(1) I am not sure that you meant to quote 1 Corinthians 10:11. Could you let me know if it was the right scripture?

We know that Jesus asks the Father to send the Holy Spirit (John 14:26). Jesus said of the Holy Spirit: "he shall testify of me:" which tells us, in context, that he is speaking about Jesus. Since we know that the Holy Spirit never speaks His own words it we understand that these words are Jesus':

"My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:" (John 10:27)

[Utopiang]

2) Therefore, Kathryn Kuhlman's glorification of the Holy Spirit is in error since the scriptures state that Jesus said of the Holy Spirit:

"He will glorify me." (John 16:14)

[bgirlsnowflakez]

Well if she's glorifying the Holy Spirit (again I haven't listened to her so I can't think of any examples) and the Holy Spirit glorifies Jesus, then what's the problem?

[Utopiang]

Since her teachings always revolve around the person of the Holy Spirit and not His teaching about Christ, this does not glorify Christ. The spirit with her could not have been the authentic Spirit of God because He would have convicted her of her sinfulness in doing so.

She was never persuaded to repent and continued to speak almost exclusively of the person of the Holy Spirit until she tragically died during open heart surgery.

[KingdomInternational]

The Bible says that the Spirit and the Word are one, and that Jesus is the word. The two are inseparable. If you're talking about one, you're talking about the other.

[Utopiang]

It is important to understand that the spirit guiding Kathryn Kuhlman was not the Holy Spirit but a familiar spirit, KingdomInternational, and therefore it was not of God and was not sent on behalf of by Christ but on behalf of the principalities and rulers of darkness.

[Utopiang]

We are taught that Satan is adept at quoting the Word:

"Then the devil taketh him up into the holy city, and setteth him on a pinnacle of the temple, and saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone." (Matthew 4:5-6)

Therefore, his false ministers will be adept at it, too, through the guidance of a false spirit.

[KingdomInternational]

Yeah, but the fruit of that word that Satan used would have been death, and would've tested the Lord violating another scripture. The fruit speaks.

[Utopiang]

And it was death - spiritual death. Those who followed Kuhlman did not receive the true Christ of the scriptures but a counterfeit.

[Utopiang]

The article states: "The Holy Spirit does not allow himself to be given a central place; the Holy Spirit makes Jesus central" (John 16:13)

John 15:13: "But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come."

The Holy Spirit does not speak on His Own but delivers Christ's message, thereby glorifying Him. The Son in turn glorifies the Father with said message.

[bgirlsnowflakez]

Aah so this was a typo. It was John 15:13 and not John 16:13! I agree with the point made. I still don't see the Holy Spirit making Jesus the person central, but definitely the message, as the Trinity is in unity with the message they bring. I suppose you could use John 14:6 where Jesus implies He IS truth, and the spirt guides us into all truth. So if truth=jesus than the holy spirit does make jesus central.

[Utopiang]

The problem was that Kathryn Kuhlman focused her entire ministry on the Holy Spirit which did not bring glory to Christ but to Him. Unfortunately, I must add that I cannot in good conscience refer to Ms Kuhlman's holy spirit as the Holy Spirit of the Bible.

Whilst God is her final judge, Christians are called to be discerning in order to protect the flock. And the evidence is very clear that Kuhlman's ministry and practices were unbiblical.

[Utopiang]

Not that I know of but since the Word ends with John and Satan's manifested "signs and wonders" were prophecied, it is not peculiar. The Lord clearly give Satan special powers to deceive after the new covenant was in place because there are so many references to these deceptions.

[Utopiang]

Apologies: "...so many references to these deceptions in the New Testament".

[bgirlsnowflakez]

"signs and wonders" are completely different from "healing" in scripture. Are you sure the Lord gives Satan special powers to deceive?

[Utopiang]

Signs and wonders fall into the category of any type of supernatural event that will amaze those witnessing them - including healings.

[bgirlsnowflakez]

I think you were right with your verse, was it John 10:27 (NIV), "My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me". It doesn't say anything about one sheep protecting the flock. Also if people are genuine followers then they will know what's God and what's not, according to this verse. AND FIRST and foremostly we are called into relationship with God (Deut 6:5), which is what this vid clip is about. Which is scriptual.

[Utopiang]

Ezekiel 33 speaks of the watchman shouting out warnings to God's children of approaching danger. The disciples exhorted believers to reprove the unfruitful works of darkness (Ephes. 5:11) and to publically mark seditious teachers (Rom. 16:17).

A relationship with God depends on us first being saved and then obeying His commands (Matt. 7:21). We are called to believing in the perfect authority of His supernatural, living and active Word (Hebrews 4:12) which has been preserved (Psalm 12:6-7).

[Utopiang]

Unfortunately, Bill Johnson is a heretic who is part of an dangerous group which includes Patricia King of Extreme Prophetic. They are all involved with Todd Bentley who believed that he was being guided by William Branham's (another proven false healer and failed prophet) angel called "Emma".

Bill Johnson and King are two of Bentley's most ardent proponents. Their ministries are extremely seductive and are rife with garish false signs and wonders such as gold teeth, feathers and glitter.

[bgirlsnowflakez]

Just with the content in your second paragraph.. I've not heard much by Bill Johnson, but I've read some of his teachings. He's never written anything that's contradictory to being saved and obeying God's commands. And in this segment here he's not said anything like that.

Also the watchmen in Ezekiel 33 is chosen by the people and not self-appointed.

[Utopiang]

Unfortunately, Johnson has taught a great many heresies and I am very concerned that you do not recognise them. Not least are his evil associations which true Christians would never endorse or promote.

ALL regenerate Christians are called to expose and mark false teachers and therefore all those born again in Christ are appointed to be watchmen. God's Word is very clear on this.

[Utopiang]

For a Biblical review/examination of BIll Johnson's book "When Heaven Invades Earth", please feel free to search the internet for the article:

"The Puritan's Sword: A Commentary on Philosophy and Theology: Gospel of Signs and Wonders"

[bgirlsnowflakez]

I kinda don't want to, partly considering one of the sources in your initial document believes in UFO's. That's a lil crazy. Do you seriously believe Reinhard Bonnke is a false teacher and is dragging Africa to hell?

[Utopiang]

I do not expect you to take my word for it and I am glad that you are not because prayer and supplication with all submission before God must always be the very first place you should go for answers and guidance. Ask the Lord to guide you in Jesus' precious name and He will be faithful.

It realise that it is difficult to grasp but UFO's are very real and are demonic (Ephesians 2:2).

Yes, I do believe that, tragically, Reinhard Bonnke is a false teacher who is leading many into hell.

[KingdomInternational]

Again the key word is UNFRUITFUL, You know a tree by the fruit it bears. The Bible says that if the fruit is good, so is the tree.

[Utopiang]

KingdomInternational, when the Word describes "unfruitful works of darkness" it refers to rotten fruits that cannot produce any good which is proven true by the consequences of Kuhlman's ministry.

"Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit." (Matthew 7:17-18)

[KingdomInternational]

As far as I can see the consequences of Kathryn's ministry led to many salvations and many healings that have resulted in an everlasting effect of the lives of many, including my own.

[Utopiang]

KingdomInternational, please read the article I recommended on Kuhlman entitled "Kathryn Kuhlman from Occult ABC by Kurt Koch".

In it you will find that the consequences were not fruitful. If there were people saved or healed it was despite Kathryn Kuhlman's ministering.

I pray that you will heed this warning given for the love of Christ because the devil uses "miraculous" healings to persuade people that it is the work of God when it is actually evil.

Pray to the Lord for discernment.

[Rayana11]

I can't say I agree with u. The Lord is capable of using anyone for his glory. I was not even born or thought of in K. Kuhlman era, as a matter of fact I think she died before i was born. But what stands out to me is her pointing people to Jesus. She totally takes herself out of the equation, she is simply a vessel. If someone went through ur life or mine with a fine tooth comb they would probably conclude the same things u r saying about Kulhman. Jesus is the only one who was perfect.

[Utopiang]

Rayanna11, God would not use a heretic and a fraud. It is true that God can and does use evil to glorify Himself but we cannot thereby refer to Kuhlman in positive terms simply because her wicked deeds were used for good.

If you study her background, ministry, private life, theology, heretical extra biblical practices, twisting of Scripture, false healings, use of hypnotism and abject adoration of the holy (familiar) spirit (purposeful lower case letters), we see a woman who was not of God.

[Rayana11]

Again, I don't agree. Jeremiah 17:9 says " the heart is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked, who can know it?" I believe that we are all sinners simply saved by grace and we may make mistakes even in the ministry. But if our hearts intent is to serve the Lord then I believe He can still use us. As I stated before, careful review of our lives even after salvation may reveal similiar flaws, but it does not mean the hand of God is not on our lives or that we cant be used by Him.

[Utopiang]

The Scriptures also tell us that false teachers are known by their fruits. Christians are warned throughout the New Testament to avoid and mark these people. Even a cursory study on Kathryn Kuhlman's ministry and theology reveal very serious heretical teachings and error-filled practices (i.e. "slain in the spirit").

Benny Hinn (who visited Kuhlman's grave for an anointing), Kenneth Copeland and Kenneth Hagin also appear to be sincere and yet they are proven heretics and false prophets.

[bgirlsnowflakez]

Maybe you should have a good read through the article and study it alongside the word of God. Another passage that came to mind reading it is that it says in Luke 6 that no good tree can bear bad fruit, or a bad tree produce good fruit. If she was producing healing(=good fruit) then how can you class her as a bad tree? The author doesn't even deny she was healing ppl, yet attributes it to satan. That doesn't line up with scripture. Can you find a scripture it aligns with?

[Utopiang]

(1)  Hi bgirlsnowflakez, I have checked the article and it is in perfect accordance with Scripture.

Miracles are performed not only by believers but also by those who do not belong to Christ (Matthew 7:21-23). Satan is capable of 'miracles' which are, in fact, occultist magic:

- Pharaohs magicians performed miracles (Exodus 7:10-12)

- The antichrist and false prophet will perform miracles 2 Thessalonians 2: 9-10)

- The Bible speaks of counterfeit signs and wonders (Matthew 24: 4, 24)

[Utopiang]

(2) The book of Job reveals that that Satan uses supernatural schemes to afflict, too.

"For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works." (2 Corinthians 11:13-15)

[bgirlsnowflakez]

I'm definitely aware of the reality of these scriptures, and also the reality of it in my experience with buddhist and hindu cultures. That doesn't make every single person who works something miraculous become counterfeit. In Matt 12 religious people accused Jesus of working miracles on behalf of Satan.  It's pretty much still the same today.

[Utopiang]

No, that is true, but when all aspects of a person's ministry are brought together in context and tested against scripture, a sound assessment is possible.

Many respected evangelicals have examined her teachings, healings and private life, and it is evident that in Kuhlman's case she was not labouring under the influence of the blessed Holy Spirit but a familiar spirit.

[bgirlsnowflakez]

I want to know these respected evangelicals names, because "respected" is subjective to opinion. Reinhard Bonnke is an amazing evangelist and he's in the same field as K.K. (I've read his books). Also Billy Graham who has given the gospel to more people than anyone who has ever lived wrote a book on angels, and has personally has experience with angels and has written a big book on angels, so he's in the field of the supernatural so wouldn't be counted as one of these respectable evangelists

[Utopiang]

I understand and I agree with you. It is a dark time and we must be discerning. For our own assurance, it is best to rely on the Word to make a righteous assessment (Jn 7:24). If one were to study Kathryn Kuhlman, pray and refer her actions (ie. the practice of slaying people in the Spirit, preaching as a woman and teaching error), one could reach a Biblically sound conclusion without depending on sources.

It is always wise to ultimately place our trust in Christ and not in man (Matt 24:4).

[Utopiang]

bgirlsnowflakez , I was shocked to see you mention Reinhard Bonnke's name and I initially thought that you had seen it in the article we have been discussing. I checked the article and when I did not find a reference I realised that you were making an independent statement.

Please, bgirlsnowflakes, do not be deceived - Reinhard Bonnke is a very dangerous false teacher and healer.

[Utopiang]

Please search the internet for this article on Bonnke:

"Raised From The Dead" by Reinhard Bonnke - Oh Really? by Sandy Simpson"

[bgirlsnowflakez]

I'm not sure if you seriously believe what your saying. Bonnke lives to preach the gospel, and you can see it in the millions of lives he's led to Christ. He moves in the gifts of the spirit outlined in Corinthians, as taught by the apostles. How many people has Sandy Simpson led to Christ? I don't even know who he is.

[Utopiang]

The research into Bonnke's ministry is readily available and irrefutably proves that he is a wolf in sheep's clothing. The Lord tells us about false apostles:

For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works. (2 Cor 11:13-15)

[Utopiang]

Sandy Simpson is a faithful Christian who is protecting God's flock from predators and deceivers.

Simpson proves scripturally that Bonnke is a fraud and is responsible for many deaths that could have been prevented.

It is not an articles based on personal opinions but facts and scriptural comparisons. Please, bgirlsnowflakez, I encourage you to test what you think to be true against the truth of God's Word through prayer and scriptural research.

I am praying for you.

[bgirlsnowflakez]

I'm not trying to be rude or anything but this sounds like extreme fear and paranoia. And I don't have a spirit of fear and I don't ingest teaching that is based on fear or slander towards great evangelists. But thank you for praying for me. I trust you're praying to God.

[Utopiang]

No, bgirlsnowflakez, it is the discernment of the Holy Spirit and the understanding that we are in perilous times, not fear or paranoia:

"Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because MANY false prophets are gone out into the world." (1 Johns 4:1)

As I have stated before, do not trust me but test my words against scripture and pray earnestly to the Father in Christ Jesus for truth, discernment, wisdom and knowledge.

[Utopiang]

It has been a blessing to talk with you, bgirlsnowflakez, and I pray that the Lord will pour His manifold blessings, mercy and grace upon you in the name of Jesus Christ. Amen.

If I can ever be of assistance to you regarding the Lord's Word or if you need someone to say an extra prayer for you (or a loved one) please do not hesitate to send me a message.

Psalm 103 is a beautiful scripture to meditate upon.

God bless you.

[KingdomInternational]

The key word in that scripture will be according to their works. The Bible also says to try the spirit by the Spirit and that anyone confesses that Jesus is Lord is His and is subject to the Spirit.

[Utopiang]

KingdomInternational, not everyone who professes Christ belongs to Him:

"Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity." (Matthew 7:21-23)

[KingdomInternational]

1 Corinthians 12:3

Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.

[Utopiang]

Kuhlman never called Jesus "accursed" but this in no way changes the fact that she was a minister of Satan.

[KingdomInternational]

1 John 4:2-3

Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

Notice even the second sentence of the scripture you pointed says "but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

[Utopiang]

Kuhlman never did do the will of the Father in Heaven. She was a false teacher, healer and a fraud who used Christ's name but did not do His works.

Did Kuhlman declare that Christ came in the flesh?

[Imaginefree69]

The "simplicity" lies with those who worship this woman.

[loopylove7timesseven]

bill johnson part of the kansas city false prophets

[mcsteward]

be careful loopy...you'll have to answer for every word

[loopylove7timesseven]

nothing wrong with disceaning that is what's wrong with the christian people they cant discearn that's why they get fleeced by the false sheperds kansas city so called prophets are false "period"

[mcsteward]

its not too late to repent...

as long as you don't, you'll be outside of God's destiny for your life

[loopylove7timesseven]

i am not making judgement i am discearning if people cant discearn these people god help them when the man of sin appears on the scene the great pied piper that is coming.

[loopylove7timesseven]

i am soory mcsteward if you cant discearn mike bickle rick joyner cindy jacobs todd bentley and the rest of them it seems to me you cant discearn.you need to check scripture the bible says if a prophet comes amoung you and gives you a prophecy and it does not come to pass do not go after them the bible says and i have listened to there prophecies and none of them have come to pass. you need to dicearn mcsteward i will not be judged for discearning for jesus said fo many will come in my name

[loopylove7timesseven]

juat like to say according to benny hinn he said kathryn kuhlman visited him in spirit in his bedroom at night this is what you call necromancer and this is a abomination unto yahweh your elohim

[mcsteward]

well i'm not concerned with what benny hinn has said about anyone - i'm concerned about the judgment you may be bringing on yourself by falsely accusing men and women of God...

just the thought is scary.

[loopylove7timesseven]

and i say again mcsteward for jesus says for many false prophets have gone out into the world and will decieve many and i say again mcsteward you need to discearn its like mike bickle with his kingdom now theology i am sorry that is not scripture.

[mocosta]

Eu ficaria muito feliz se alguém legendasse, pois assim como eu não consigo entender oque ele fala, com certeza deve haver muitos outros iguais a mim.

God bless.

[extremeprofitic]

yeah, and she didnt parade magic tricks as signs from God. she was honest and ethical in the pulpit, unlike most nowadays. fake angel feathers, bah, ughh, i will take the presence of God...

[mysticfishers]

this is so good..... aaaahhhhhh.....

[RLF777]

Do not be deceived, can one purchase the spiritual gift of prophecy ? Can we pay a T.V. pastor, or pay to go to a seminar, or supernatural ministry school to become one ? I wonder how , when it is God who decides who gets what gift "But one and the same Spirit works all these things, distributing to each one individually as He wills." (1 Corinthians 12, v 11)

[RLF777]

"But Peter said to him, "Your money perish with you, because you thought that the gift of God could be purchased with money!" (Acts 8 v20)

[preachtruth08]

Gota hit it one more time. I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his APPEARING AND HIS KINGDOM;YOU CAN NOT SEE THE KINGDOM OF GOD UNTIL HIS 2 RETURN.2Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

3For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers(Bill Johnson),having itching ears;

[GODSWORKMAN]

Amen

[preachtruth08]

Open your comments on your videos, or are you afraid to handle the TRUTH?? I have seen alot of people who are insecure about themselves,try to make fun of other people to avoid the truth, but I mainly seen this BACK in grade school. Yes i forgot i am talking to a child who said himself that he is still a child.

You have some hard lessons in life a head of you,kid.

Time to grow up and get off the sucklings and start digesting some meat.

Even so come Lord Jesus.

[preachtruth08]

tsidkenu223 I can see now y you have all comments blocked on your videos&all the other Todd&Bill followers do the same.I know very well my sis attends the church in KS were they don't want to hear any NEGATIVE TRUTH.Try reading MT16:14 these men all preached repentance towards God,& NOT SOME NEW THEOLOGY.1COR3:2 I have fed you with milk,& not with meat:for hitherto ye were not able to bear it,NEITHER yet now are ye able.

ever try getting down the road without using the neg post on your battery?

[preachtruth08]

I just asked a simple ?And you come back with some childish remark.Can your answer the question or not?

Why don't you ask Bill or better yet ask God tonight in your prayers how pleased he is with you fro tearing and degrading other brothers in the LORD.

PROV 28:25 He that is of a proud heart stirreth up strife:but he that putteth his trust in the LORD shall be made fat.

From the teaching that I have heard from Bill, I don't think his school your going to teaches CHRISTIANS to be high minded.

[tsidkenu223]

i know its silly that i continue to play childish games with you. bye

[preachtruth08]

U said it CORRECT about games

1COR 13:11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.

Your 25 it is time to grow up.U should really mediate on 1Cor13,particulary verses 1&11.

12Now if any MAN build upon this foundation gold,silver,precious stones,wood,hay,stubble. If any man's work shall be burned,he shall suffer loss:but he himself shall be saved;yet so as by fire.Kid you can't handle the TRUTH!

[preachtruth08]

LK 3:6 And all flesh shall see the salvation(KOG

)of God.

EPH 6:17 And take the helmet of salvation(KOG), &the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:

1THESS 5:9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath,but to obtain salvation(KOG) by our Lord Jesus Christ,

TIT 2:11 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation(KOG) hath appeared to all men,

LK 1:77 To give knowledge of salvation(KOG) unto his people by the remission of their sins

So you teaching you are receiving is some scary stuff!

[simbacarlo]

Love Bill's reasoned, non yelling, rational approach to truth

[tsidkenu223]

you who are blind, should we look to you instead?? you who are cripple yourself shall we follow your foot steps? You who are deaf shall we listen to what you have to say? I think not

[MyGodIsEternal]

Nice cadence to your derogatory poem, but for those with the gift of discernment it's easy to see who's deceived here---the ones who supports the false gospel of a false teacher---Bill Johnson, who calls it 'his gospel' Paul says by the Holy Spirit that if 'anyone brings a gospel to you other than what you originally received, LET HIM BE ETERNALLY DAMNED' (emphasis added). I don't know Bill's true spiritual condition, but it isn't looking good for him---or for you, or for his other followers.

[tsidkenu223]

then i guess you will be eternally damned, because you are the one that preaches the different gospel, Bill is simply bringing back what has been lost, it's only different to you because you have been fed a lie to believe that this message that the message you preach is actually the Gospel, the church has been fooled for a long time, time to wake up kid. Regardless of your age, your still sucking on a baby bottle what you think is meat.

[preachtruth08]

I guess Bill is following what the bible does say,MT2424For there shall arise false Christs,and false prophets,and shall shew great signs&wonders;insomuch that,if it were possible,they shall deceive the very elect.You have quoted saying that we can't take the bible at face value,we need to apply what the bible means in our own culture.I have listened to Bill and he is preaching a gospel of a physical KINGDOM OF GOD, when it is not meat and drink but righteous,peace&joy.Gal 1:6-10,another gospel.

[tsidkenu223]

the only another gospel that has been preached has been the one so far, bill johnson brings back the original purpose of the Gospel, that the kingdom of God is at hand. Salvation is not the gospel, salvation is for you to be able to bring the kingdom of God at hand. It's so simple, but yet you are blind to it.

[preachtruth08]

the KOG of the KOH were both present when Christ was present PHYSICAL on earth.When Christ departed so did the KOG, when the jews rejected steven in acts7 the KOH departed from the Jews."Jesus answered,My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world,then would my servants fight,that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.If "JESUS" knew that HIS KINGDOM was not of this world,PHYSICAL,but SPIRITUAL.Salvation HAS NEVER been the KI OF GOD!!!!

[tsidkenu223]

I understand completely what you are saying, but you misunderstand a lot, even with your good intentions, no offense, you are still completely wrong.

[preachtruth08]

HOW am i completely wrong?

[tsidkenu223]

you wouldn't understand, can't put new wine in old wine skins, they just burst and spill out.

Rom 8:6 For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

[preachtruth08]

I am a born again christian, a son of God.Watch your words.

If your so christ like and your so religious,why does your tongue cut so much?Brother I have seen other postings of yours and you are very hateful with your response.Always a smart remark.Just because someone goes differ on what you say you tear them down and avoid talking about what the bible says.

JAS 1:26 If any man among you seem to be religious,and bridleth not his tongue,but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion is vain.

[preachtruth08]

8But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

it does not say enternally damed,it says accursed.

I am not sure what gospel was ever lost that bill is bring back???

I have watched many different videos of Bill and he preached that God just loves the whole world and God would never destroy anyone,because "God is in a really good mood,tell your friends alot of them think he is upset at them".Ps7:11 LOL!!

[GODSWORKMAN]

PROV 8:13 The fear of the LORD is to hate evil: ""pride"", and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.

[iUploaded]

The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, 10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, 12 that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

[MyGodIsEternal]

Funny you posted the same thing---the Spirit just led me to post the same verse, and then I noticed you had. Send me a private message and I will tell you more.

[y2king32]

Dude your name is fall ALL4jesus and your scared of the devil and demons? Whats to fear greater is he who is in us then he who is in the world we have power over Satan and his Demons in the Name of Jesus dont be scared and be careful judging in case the Holy Spirit has used her

[KnowJesusKnowPeace]

Pt. 2: He adds to Scripture, and the Bible warns about the spiritual fate of those who do so. Why would they do it? Why did Judas betray Christ? Money.

[MyGodIsEternal]

Thank you for your post. You are one of the ones that God has called to stand against this heretical 'positive confession' movement. This is a prophecy that God is fulfilling---we are increasing in numbers and will soon overwhelm this false movement through the move of the Holy Spirit, not just on YouTube but across the nation. God's commands will come to pass. The rotten root will soon kill the tree that bears bad fruit.

[savingkindness]

Fully encouraging, don't have to be a superstar, lovin it.

[Goldbuckles]

Kathryn was a very simple lady. There were times she would stand there and just sob and cry and worship. Praise and worship was all she knew. I feel badly for anyone that will speak evil of this delicate lady who dedicated her entire being to the Lord. There is too much stupidity in this world. Seems the more they can rip and tear at the church the happier they are. Do not be fooled by the ones that call themselves christians. They do not walk the walk. That is what Kathryn did.

[ButterflyMom777]

I love Bill Johnson and I have loved and gleaned from kathryn Kulhman for years. This is such a blessing; thank you for posting it.