the music they were playing at the biginning is cuban. the statues the showed were from sears and part which showed the guys playing bomba (the only part of the vid in which they actually show something from here) was good until the bailador started to wave the rags (thats santeria, and santeria is cuban not puertorriquena)
Orgullosa estoy sobre estos Comentarios y argumentos por que por mas diferentes que sean los puntos de vistas sobre todo han sido con respeto y mientra mas hablamos de estos mas viva se mantiene la cultura que nos toco ... Taina , africana y espanola.
i'm compelled to acknowledge the amazing puerto rican soul mixed with the lovely african heart. for sure, these two combined cultures are a compelling phenomenon that touches ALL unprejudiced minds...
Yo SOY BORICUA DE CORAZON!!! Y mi sangre tiene las razas Taina y Negra arraigadas. Yo bailo al son de lostambores y del guiro. Orgulloso estoy de ser Puertoriqueño!!!!!!!!!!
oh wow this is beautiful. I am mixed spaniard, born and raised in majorca but living in barcelona now. You puerto ricans should be proud only being just puerto rican regardless you are mixed or not because here in spain, we spanish cant stand eachother and is true that why so many left spain to be with someone who is different
a country's identity through it's ethnology and sociology it's necessary to comprehend it's culture and how it formed. Remember the first bata drums came to the provinces of La Habana and Matanzas in the sixteenth century and it was in the island of Cuba where you had the first Yoruba Lucumi, Kongo(Zaire, Congo, Angola), Ganga(tribes from Liberia, Ivory Coast, Sierra Leone), Mandinga(Gambia to Sierra Leone) and Carabali(Efik, Ibibio, Ekoi, Ijaw and Ogoni) Cabildos(Societies of Mutual Help).
@elmusicologo100 yep, also there are some intermixes like carabali bomba rhythm for example which is from Puerto Rico and Cuba has Tumba Francesa and Puerto Ricans have bomba seis corrido which is pretty much the same rhythm. Pretty cool stuff. I think we have many differences but also have many things in common including starting in the 1600's and 1700's. Long live Cuba and Puerto Rico:) Don't let people bother you too much on youtube. Cuba and Puerto Rock:)
not identical even though there are major similarities there are also major differences of events and culture. It seems the comments braced you in a negative way and please I apologize that was not my intention at all. I love and admire the history and culture of Puerto Rico being the great -grand son of a Puerto Rican woman but I urge to study the history of Cuba which very few seem to know about here. You are right it doesn't matter how whites or blacks live there but and understanding of
Junyto12 It appears you have misinterpreted my comments which are merely a statement based on history and anthropology to support the intense mixture that has has taken place in Cuba in response to some comments made earlier which were not too accurate. It seems you did not carefully read all my comments and maybe you did not understand them. My intentions are not negative at all but are based on principles of love and righteousness. I'm sorry but the history of Cuba and Puerto Rico is not...
why are u arguing about cuba and how many blacks or whites live there.it really doesnt matter,cuba and puerto rico have almost identical histories up the u.s invasion in 1898.the food, the culture,the language,puerto rico and cuba were the last 2 possesions of spain in america.up to the year 1898 there was huge trade between both islands.including families who lived between the 2 islands.don luis ferre a puerto rican born with cuban ancestry was the 2 nd governor of p.r.
most of latin spanish songs which reached the middle east were puerto rican.....puerto rico is truly the island of music and wonderful people ......saludes
Sangreafrolatino and kwacou i share this with the utmost respect and without any intention to offend you. Many Blessings and to all viewers please research the history of every culture and nation to its deepest roots before stating facts that might mislead people. It is fact not personal opinion on fact that should be the basis of history. Let us remember the words of the only Savior Jesus in the book of Acts through the apostle Paul-"He(God) has made from one blood all the lineage of men".
Spanish and European ancestry just like most white have African and even some Taino ancestry. Kwacou, Cuba has always had a large white population as well a very strong black population with a many a time unrecognized mestizo/mulatto majority. Some statistics state 51% mulatto, 37%white and 11%black others 45%mulatto, 40%white and 14%black and there many others.
In the words of anthropologist Fernando Ortiz-"Nuestra tierra(Cuba) ofrece un precioso mosaico etnico"-El Pueblo Cubano from 1912-1913
It is a known fact by anthropology in Cuba that most white people in the island are descended from the mixture of Spaniards with mulatas or mulatos(mulattoe women and men) and sangreafrolatino the features of white Cuban are very unique due to this type of mixture yes they do have strong European features but only 10 to 15% are of pure Spanish descent. For instance look at the features of white Cubans today and Spaniards, strong resemblances but not entirely as well as most black Cubans have
Alejandro Von Humboldt(Alexander Von Humboldt) in his trip to Cuba in 1804 says "In this island of Cuba there are more mulattoes that anywhere else". Fernando Ortiz says of Cuba-"este amestizamiento de razas, pueblos y culturas soprepuja en trascendencia a cualquier otro fenomeno historico" and furthermore he says-"Las cuatro razas vulgares se han abrazado, cruzado y recruzado en nuestra tierra en cria de generaciones. Cuba es uno de los publos mas mezclados, mestizo de todas las progenituras".
Querido musicólogo; soy asturiana, española y universal (hija de Dios) y mi bisabuela era habanera. Mi piel, blanca, mi corazón ancho cuando escucho la mùsica de los años 30.40.50 de Cuba. En aquel entonces se cantaba en claro, en alegre, en creativo, en hombre. Un abrazo.
of their family members their proof of "Limpieza de Sangre" due to intense mixture that was taking place in the Cuban population. Cuban Historian Fernando Portuondo says in his book "Historia de Cuba-1492-1898" that since the beginning of the conquest of Cuba the union-mostly illegitimate, that not under marriage-between Spaniards and Indian women and then with black and mulatto women was very frequent. This process is the ethnic and social backbone of the Cuban population. Furthermore ...
acquired certificates of "Limpieza de Sangre" or "Blanqueamiento Legal y Judicial" and this was an ongoing practice in colonial Cuba. Cuban foremost anthropologist Fernando Ortiz tells us in his book "Los Negros Esclavos"-1916, that since 1815 marriage between white people and mulattoes and blacks people was free and liberally accepted by the colonial authorities and judicial courts of Cuba. This was to point that even families of the aristocracy of "Noble Hidalguia" began to require of many..
@elmusicologo100 predominately but not quite European.. those are the ones I call off-whites and not "actual whites" (in terms of phenotype). Either way this conversation is unnecessary all I was trying to tell the user is that not everyone in the Caribbean has African ancestry, simple as that.
Sangreafrolatino and kwcou I do not where you come from and please do not take as disrespectful what I am about to share with you but it seems you have a very poor knowledge of Cuban Ethnology. I am a musicologist and ethnologist from Cuba and your statements on the percentages and laxity of the term white in Cuba are not well founded. I have read archives, inscriptions and demographic chronicles that go back to the eighteenth century where there exist records of countless mulattoes that...
@elmusicologo100 I respect what you're saying. I am speaking from my point of few and living in three different areas of Cuba.. we're not talking about purity of blood, it maybe be that most whites who have colonial ancestry have mixed ancestry.. I'm actually involved in genetic studies so I know this, but the same can be said for white Americans most of them who have colonial ancestry have some non-white ancestry, so a little admixture has nothing to do with this.
And I know about what is considered white in Cuba, many off whites are counted as white and that is why the census has the number so high but trust me when I say this people who look full out unmixed (regardless if they do have mixed ancestry down the line) in Cuba make up a significant part of the population. Especially in the central and western parts of the island.. and I know what Spaniards and other Europeans look like as I have traveled so I know what you mean about some who look
What's all the debate about? If your from the Caribbean your roots are African, We only got there because of slavery. Whether you speak Spanish,Dutch,French or English we all share a common ancestry AFRICA. And yes many have European, as well as (Chinese/Indian found mostly in the English and Dutch Islands that's why we eat lots of curry in those islands), the African blood is what makes us West Indian or Caribbeans blessed to come from the most beautiful region on earth.
@kwacou Sorry but that's not true at least not for Spanish speaking Caribbeans, Cuba especially but PR too, and to a lesser extent the Dominican had European immigration in the last three centuries, plus all the Spaniards coming from Caribbean times. So to say everyone has African blood would be wrong and forcing people into an ancestry that's not there's. On the other hand white Cubans, PRs, and to a lesser extent Dominicans who have no African blood are still cultures of their countries.
@sangreafrolatino Cuba had a white majority up until the revolution, not anymore. I've been to Cuba and yes whites are about 35% of the current pop of Cuba. In PR I don't know the percentage but DR is definitely 80-85% African or mixed with African and I have been there many times. Also what passes for white, in the Spanish speaking countries of the Americas, would definitely not be considered white in other places they would be referred to as light complexioned blacks.
@kwacou I'm not disagreeing although I don't agree on one thing.. in Cuba the term white isn't so lax, only certain light skinned mulatos pass at times as white, but the majority of what we call white do look fully european imo. But yeah in Puerto Rico and the DR the term white is very lax. I do agree Cuba is majority Afro-descendant. But we still have a white population.
Also, what passes as black in the US would not pass as black in most of the world. Don't forget that too.
@sangreafrolatino Agree about Cuba that's why I said 35%.Cuban whites are not having any octoroon's,quadroon', and mulattoe passing for any kind of white. Your statement about most of the world, where did you get that info?I've lived in Europe (France,Italy and Belgium) for 3 yrs and travel extensively throughout and African born blacks as well as Caribbeans and South Americans were seen as black. In East Europe, anybody with color is called black. E Europe is the most racist place I've been.
I do not agree with your statement, for you have it backwards. In most of the world, what IS NOT BLACK IN PR is still black. In Puerto Rico, few call themselves black. THINK ABOUT THIS: The USA is the ONLY country in the world where Africans were mixed with ALL of europe (NOT JUST SPAIN) , native Americans, asians, middle easterners and others and still proudly call ourselves black. IT IS NEVER ABOUT El COLOR DE PIEL; IT IS ALL ABOUT THE BLOODLINE!!! Genes don't Lie!!
@Shalamae87 You are correct there are Caribbeans with no African blood but they are a minority. But there can be no argument that our culture is predominately influenced by west Africa.
@kwacou The debate is that what you're saying is simply not true. You're saying that all people from the Caribbean are descendants of African slaves and this is false. I used Cuba as an example because many Europeans settled in Cuba.. these people are straight up European not "African with some European, Indian, or Chinese blood" .. it seems you're implying that the basis of all Caribbean people is African ancestry and the others are just extra that some people have, but again this is not true.
For the very reasons I just said. What is true is that all people from the Caribbean are CULTURALLY influenced by west african/black african people.. but not all are necessarily descendant of them. This isn't only true in the Spanish Caribbean.. look at the West Indies.. many people in Trinidad are straight up descendants of South-East Asians or the Caymann Islands which has a large European population. So I'll say it one more time many people form the Caribbean have no Black African ancestry.
@sangreafrolatino I never said all, but all have been Africanized.I've lived in Trinidad, I'm Jamaican & aware of Indo/Caribbeans, my Great grand mother came from Hindustan (there was no nation called India at that time) and as I said previously, at least 35% of Cuba is European and they're Africanized and not very European except for their phenotype.Most recent people in Cayman are white but most true Caymanians are black or mixed black and have family origins in Jamaica, we were 1 until 1962.
to those people tha want to say that they are are pure spaniard or canarain because thats the closest you can ge to whiteness you are wrong in puerto rico we are all mixed and look at your children, grandparent or even parent , I have friends whos parents are black as ever and because they are light skin still wana say that they are white from spain lol there are no pure bloods from spain
@oloyumiya I'm sorry but there is. Yeah, denying your roots is wrong, but mestizaje is even worse to try to say "everyone is mixed" is mixed would be a lie, because I know many people from PR who have had both sides of grandparents or great grandprents coming from Europe.. my dad included although my mom IS mixed. why do some people think all the people in their country have to be the same racial mix? the fact that we might be different races but consider each other 1 people is what is amazing.
@teresaguerrasalazar No metan a los venezolanos en sus diatribas mediocres, en Venezuela no nos creemos nada, somos venezolanos y punto, y recibimos a todos los visitantes, vengan de donde vengan, con cariño y hospitalidad de hecho vienen y se quedan, no tenemos complejos de ningún tipo, te invito a visitarnos y serás bienvenida!!!!
Puerto Ricans should rescue the Afro-Caribbean culture. This is something which many other aspects of our culture has tried to suppress. But still expressed in the different variations of the Yoruba religion, music, literature, poetry, etc. Puerto Rico is a good example of the culture of the peoples and the state are bitter enemies.
Los puertorriqueños debemos rescatar esa cultura afrocaribeña. Esto es algo que como muchos otros aspectos de nuestra cultura se ha tratado de reprimir. Pero que aun así se expresa en las diferentes variaciones de la religión yoruba, en la música, literatura, poesía, etc. Puerto Rico es un buen ejemplo de que la cultura de los pueblos y el estado son enemigos acérrimos.
I love the video and the information could not be more accurate. There is something about the drumms that will take you away and himnotize you and somehow you find yourself just completely gone with the music. I am Proud of my heritage. Thanks for sharing...
There is alot more History than this narrator would suggest regarding how the Indians of The Borinquen Islands (Plural), began their practices of Idolatry and the worship of the Four Elements. It Dates back further than just a modern enterpretation of events and folklore.
The Characteristics of those Indians who were in those Islands as well as the North and South American Indians were all one people united at one point. They were called the Northern Kingdom.
Puerto Ricans are the Tribe of Ephraim from the Bible.You can clearly see this in the scriptures how Ephraim would submit themselves to worshiping the false God called Ba'al-im, which is the worship of the elements.You can also see the connection because it wasn't just the Tribe of Ephraim but the whole Northern Kingdom of Israel.
That's why you can also see that same woship among (So-called) North American Indians, as well as the Aztecs and the Mayan Indians. All of the Northern Kingdom followed the worship of Ba'al in some way shape or form. The Indians of the North and South Americas are the Lost Tribes of Israel.
Santeria (the name not the religion deriving from Cuba) is actually based a West African religion of Lukumi of Nigeria.This indigenous population was enslaved, from high priest to farmers, to work sugar fields and forced into a belief far from their own. In times of desperation, wherever they ended up, they took their self being. It is a merge of Yuruba, Catholic and Native religion. I should know with History BA and Phillosophy MA. Very touchy subject to correct without first knowing.
La santeria no tiene nada que ver con la bomba puertorriqueña. la santeria es cubana y la bomba es puertorriqueña. inclusive la bomba que aqui se presenta estaá distorsionada no estan tocando con el ritmo tradicional ni estan bailandola como realmente se baila. En resumen esta distorcionada. y creanme yo se de esto!
cuando llegan los Españoles y traen parte nuestros ancestros los africanos y los esclavizan y les imponen sus creencias, como le imponen el cristianismo, los esclavos africanos se vieron obligados a ocultar sus entes religiosas, con los "santos" catolicos, es decir, como muchos de los santos que adoraban los esclavos no era el mismo santo de la religion catolica, ya que los esclavos ocultaban sus entes, entre los santos,
Yes PeePee. Is what is call Religious Syncretism. Is the mix of expressions and beliefs in order to be accepted for one of the contrapart. Like giving african names to catholic saints and using them in religious rituals is one example. :-)
Hun: Grandma,' Grandmother, Grandmamma, Bisabuela, (just in case you don't know how to write in Spanish). Where you are going now, I already had been there. But you are making a big effort so is good.
My facts, I grew up there. I lived most of my life in Puerto Rico. If you say "white." that is half of our being. Three are the red stripes in our flag. Three bloods: Taino, Black and Spaniard. If you think you're a "white" with puertorrican culture. If you think your "euro blood" is fine. What can I say? Me, I can eat Taino casabe bread, Italian sausages, African sancocho soup and Spanish omelet with no problem. I have the best of the three worlds and I enjoy it.
@crystalship42 Yes, but culture is different than ancestry. All PRs are culturally influenced by Euros, Africans, and Tainos in that order, but not all of them have Taino blood and not all of them have African blood. Some PRs are fully Euro, some though rare of fully African, sadly there aren't who are fully Taino... but anyways not everyone has to be the same race in order for them to be one people... that's what's great about Latin America and PR.
@sangreafrolatino I just like to know where the pure Euros are today. Tell me where. They're not who is fully nothing or fully everything. That's why. What makes puertorrican who we are is because of the mix of our race. Tainos, Spanish, African and then the rest.
@crystalship42 Well my dad for example is of Canarian and French descent.. and he considers himself 100% PR even without African or Taino blood.. and even with that he's proud of the African and Taino influence in our culture. There are many PRs who I know personally that draw their ancestry solely to Europe... don't forget that there was a huge European/Lebanese/Syrian immigrant influx in the 20th and 19th century.
@sangreafrolatino Yes..I understand but mixed with natives from the Island. I have black french anscestors. Pure spaniard blood from my mom's side. But I'm talking about the fundamental races of our heritage. We are talking about more than 500 hundreds years back. Where are those Euros now?
@crystalship42 I agree. I'm so tired of Ricans that distance themselves so much from Africa. So MANY Boricuas that label themselves "white" have some vestiges of African features right on their light skinned faces. Pretty soon they will revise history and say that ALL the blackness in PR is as a result of the Dominican brothers and sisters that live in PR. Mark my words.
My sincere apologies to all the Dominicans who have been looked down upon by SOME ignorant Boricuas. Peace.
@crystalship42 - I too grew up in Puerto Rico. I am puertorrican born in NY. I have explained to many over the years the origens of the puertoricans and our culture. You put it nicely . It's a mix I am extremely proud of.Viva Puerto Rico! La isla del Encanto!
Funny the look on my white friends faces when I tell them there are light skin puertorricans and black as black, but we are all proud puertorricans.
@crystalship42 ALSO THERE IS FRENCH AND ITALIAN AND CHINESE MIXED THERE. WOULD LOVE TO FIND OUT MORE ON MY LINEAGE ,BUT I KNOW THESE ARE IN MY ANCESTRY AS WELL.
Tell me where the pure whites are living now in Puerto Rico....I know about Hollands, French, Italians, Chinese, Spaniards descendants that came to the Island more than 500 hundred years ago. Where are they now?
@crystalship42 I mean with all respect...If he is from the Canarias. My apreciation if he feels PR is nice. But is difficult to accept those europeans didn't mix with puertorricans like my ancestors did. A French will be a French with puertorrican culture. A Puertorrican is the full package.
@crystalship42 Umm no he has no ties to those countries at all... ethnicity isn't about genetics, so it doesn't matter where his ancestors came from... are you saying that everyone who isn't taino, black, and european isn't puerto rican? or do you just have to be mixed somehow? I don't know why he wouldn't be Puerto RIcan if he has never known anything else.
@sangreafrolatino With all respect. It is about genetics...How U think they can figure it out if you're asian, black, hispanic when U die?..Hehe..We are different. We have similarities. That is what maintain us together in the Caribbean. But we have our culture, heritage and history and the fusion of the races to make who we are. Look and read our history. I can't go to Cuba and say I'm cuban even when we have sililarities.
I can say...there's no whites "whites" in Puerto Rico...Now I can say like our poet Vizcarrondo: "Tu color te salio blanco, y las mejillas rosa, los labios los tienes finos y tu abuela ?aonde esta?". My skin is white. green eyes, thin nose and face. My real hair texture is fine waive. My grandma from my father side is black french descendant. My grantgrandMom from my Mom's side was from Spain. We all are mix my friends and we are special :-)
Um of course their is Whites in Puerto Rico MY FAMILY ... Just because your White looking and have a black grandfather dont mean every Puerto Rican has black or Native In them ... My family is all euro blood equals white! so i have to disagree with you on that one. My family came from Europe and mixed with other Europeans on the Island ...! So I dont know where you get your facts from .... Yes we are mixed but their are pure races on the Island just being raised with Puerto Rican culture!
I know it has been a year since you respond, but you said something that is contradictory. You claim to be "all white" but said that you have a black grandfather. Either you are confused or your grandfather is/was white. Even so, I doubt very seriously that your ancestry is 100% European. I like Ricans (always have, always will). When I see a honey to light complexed Rican, I know he is Rican. Even in the States, the blondes and blues ARE NOT genetically all white.
I think your getting my comment confused with someone else. within the year I did more research on my family and I did More DNA testing and theres no black in me, Actually my family is only two generations in with my mothers side ... and my grandfather who we thought had black or Native in him came actually we we're wrong hes euro with Indian blood from India and thats where he gets his dark skin and the light eyes come from the Euro blood. Thats my fathers fathers.
Bomba is "in part" from Santeria. It beginnings we can say, was a way of black african religion expression during slavery and a fight for maintain their african roots in Puerto Rico against the new european religion. Also is use in Santeria rituals. But also is part of our cultural expression in Puerto Rico using all kind of social aspects of the culture.
hum.Interesting. Sort of lke Palo in Santo Domingo. My parents are Santiago, not Santo D. my mother told me not all Palo was used for brujeria, she told me that in towns in the south (Santo Domingo) people used the music for their town patrons as well. Osea, their catholic rituals.
la santeria en puerto rico se oculto por completo.siendo practicada solo por unos pocos individuos que lograron mantener vivos los dioses yoruba y bantu.dentro del espiritismo se integraron varias practicas de santeria y palo,al igual que el vudu haitiano.sin embargo la santeria como se practica hoy vino de cuba en los anos 30 y 40.igualmente el palo mayombe.antes de esto se trabajaba una especie de mescla llamado espiritismo cruzao en el que si es verdad los tainos tuvieron mucha influencia.
Leyendo tu comentario, en lo personal me surgieron varias cuestiones que quisiera que me las aclares porfavor. En qué se distingue el espiritismo de la santería, cuáles son los elementos religiosos que distinguen ambos términos el uno del otro. A qué te refieres con "palo mayombé" . Y en dónde se puede encontrar la influencia taina de la que mencionas.
Espero puedas responder mis preguntas, ya que viendo los comentarios y el video, me parece que hay una pequeña confusión.
Boriquas keep our traditions alive for our ancestors the Tainos had a role to play in what is now modern Santeria learn the truth my brothers and sisters!!!
tainos had no role in santeria. What taino language are they speaking, where are the taino rythms, what about the taino dance. Santeria came from the yorubas of nigeria. The only outside influence in christianity.
I'm not sure what your trying to get at with your comment but you said "do not take black culture and replace it as something else" If you didn't know Puerto Ricans are mixed with black, indian and spanish and sometimes other mixes. Our culture is influenced by that mix. You talked about Taino language and ryhtms exc but did you know that almost of the Tainos were killed off? It's in the blood line and some people still play those rhytms in PR.
Not all puerto ricans have the same mixture, and all are not mixed. Bomba, plena and santeria belongs to black, not whites, indians or mezstitos whatever they call themselves.
Who cares about how the people are mixed up? Really!!! Bomba, plena, as well as other styles of music like merengue, Spanish guitar, Cuban exc.. have been introduced to Puerto Rico so they play it and add there own style!! big deal!!
Chinese Kung Fu has been introduced to america a long time ago so should the Chinese cry and complain saying that it belongs to the Chinese people? It's been introduced and the people like it, practice it, and thats it!
Muy bonito, pero tengo un problema con este video. Soy decendiente de africanos y nunca conoci la santeria hasta la llegada de los cubanos a la isla. Si sabia de espiritismo. Y la bomba fue una creacion del que salio de los negros esclavos cuando en las noches y en sus ratos libres cantaban y bailaban para sobrellevar la vida de esclavo.
Duda, yo soy de México pero me gusta indagar sobre otras culturas. ¿Se puede decir que la bomba es una expresión de rituales profano-religiosos nativos de puerto rico?
Pero es que la Bomba es mucho mas antigua que esto mi gente. La bomba nacio como forma de expresion espiritual y social en contra de la opresion cultural que sentia el negro esclavo. Y de ahi a tenido sus variantes. Pero sigue siendo nuestra bomba.
si te fustigaban cuando querias expresarte, si violaban a tus hias cuando llegaban a penas a la pubertad, si trabajabas de sol a sol para dormir en una choza de paja, si te trajeron a una isla del caribe amarrado con cadenas ...y para colmo te prohibian practicar tu religion; Entonces si valia la pena cantar y darle sazon a unos santos de hombre blanco que solo servian de medio de reprensentacion de tu religion. Estudia, lee, aprende.
claro que si es bomba. al principio de este video es un mix de santeria/bomba en el idioma yoruba. they are singing and chanting in the yoruba language.
Que mala reputacion le das a los Boricuas. mas mala de la que ya la tienen aqui en Miami. Eres demasiado lento para entender que casinoparatodos no dijo que la bomba no era Puertorique~a. La bomba es puertorique~a pero la musica al principio de este video no es bomba.
La moba es de ustedes( aunque es de influenica clara de la tumba frnacesa declarad patrimonio de la humanidad por la UNESCO), pero la musica que hoy llman salsa caprichosamente es musica cubana tocada por otros y los propios musicos lo saben.
estas feliz???? casinoparatodos no me enteresa lo que dices hahhaah salsa bomba lo quesea es nuestra no te enojes alegrate quesomos los mejores , poreso los cubanos se mudan ilegal para puerto rico gracias que tanto nos envidia. comete esa. muahhhhhh
No No lo que dices no tiene ningun sentido, ustedes solo estan en camino y mas nada, por eso los cubanos pasan por ahi. Pero ademas que tiene que ver eso, con el tema de la musica?. Siempre los puertoriquenios caen en el mismo tema cuando no les queda nada que decir en temas musicales.
Pero lo peor del caso es que siempre caen en el tema de la politica cuando son los que menos deberian hacer, o ya le te olvido que son un estado subyugado de los americanos.
Mira las migraciones siempre han existido. Y si, es cierto que Cuba vive una historia dificil, pero no es un perro de los Estados Unidos como lo son ustedes que son un pais anexado y lame botas con la historia mas triste y vergonzosa de toda latinoamerica. Por eso se pasan la vida exagerando sobre si mismos y ni siquiera tienen una musica que puedan decir que es propia.
lo que es la maldita envidia!!! ustedes critican porque les duele que PR sea una isla tan bendecida en muchisimas formas! somos un estado LIBRE ASOCIADO!!! osea, estamos aliados a EU pero tenemos nuestras propias leyes, elegimos nuestro gobernador, teneos nuestra propia cultura, etc. Envidian porque los boricuas gracias a Dios y al gobierno de EU, nacen con ciudadania americana, envidian porque tenemos muchisimos cantantes, artistas talentosos reconocidos mundialmente que llevan en nombre de
nuestra isla bien en alto. Critican nuestra musica y te apuesto que no hacen un "party"sin poner el dichosos reggaeton o la pegajosa salsa. Y nuestra historia es una de las mas interesantes y diferentes de latinoamerica. Les duele que PR desde que se descubrio en los 1493 sea un isla tan destacada por su belleza y demas. No se porque este tema tiene que ser tan controversial y traer tantos insultos y comentarios negativos hacia la cultura puertoriqueña, al fin y al cabo todos somos latinos y
Mas ignorante no puedes parecer!!!! Es hecho historial que la Bomba origino en Loiza, Puerto Rico durante el siglo 17, no robado de Cuba. Sacate el pie de la boca y abrete un maldito libro de historia de vez en cuando, pendejo!!!! Son comemierdas como tu que le dan la tremenda mala fama que sufre el cubano. Ya dejate de la envidia que nos tienes a nosotros los puertorriquenos y concentrate en mejorar tu reputacion de balcero!!!
VAMOS POR PARTES. PARTE 1. ESTE DOCUMENTAL O EL TITULO ES SUBVERSIVO PUES TRATA DE DEMOSTRAR LA PRESENCIA DE LA BOMBA EN LA SALSA LA CUAL ES MUY ESCASA. LA LLAMADA SALSA ESTA HECHA DE RITMOS CUBANOS EN CASI SU TOTALIDAD. PERO ok VAMOS ALLA , LA PRIMERA CANSION QUE SALE NO ES NI REMOTAMENTE BOMBA , ES YORUBA, MUSICA AFROCUBANA, PATRIMONIO CUBANO. SE TOCA CON TAMBORES BATA LOS CUALES FUERON LLEVAODS A ESCENAS SALSERAS POR PRIMERA VEZ POR MONGO SANTAMARIA Y OTROS CUBANOS.
sabes(es con B), bomba(es con m antes de b, no sabes ni escribir bien el nombre de lo que defiendes como tu musica , que mas se te puede pedir), hables (es con h) . Si, todos llevamos herencia africana, pero los procesos de transculturacion no son tan sencillos y Cuba es la rectora en el Caribe en cuanto a musica. Lo unico que he dicho aqui es que es un disparate poner la musica Yoruba (afrocubana) como bomba.
Que Yuba ni que Yuba jodios anormales, no ven que dice BOMBA punetaa! si no saben pa' que karajo se meten a ver estos videos BOMBA! BOMBA! PUNEETAA!!!! AY QUE RICO ES SER BORICUA!!! bueno mi gente ya yo reserve con papito Dios, cuando yo muera rencarnar en mi bella Isla Del Encanto,,, PUERTO RICOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! TE AMO
people that do stuff like this are so irresponsible...they create more ignorance ...I hate that also! Hopefully Ill be able in a future here in You Tube to honor cultures from around the World! Check my humble page! Ciaoooo!...
De verdad que es una lastima que escriban de cosas que no se han dado a la tarea de investigar. De cualquier manera el creador de este video es el primer responsable en este caso... Le faltan datos, detalles y un contexto mas responsable en cuanto a que no todo Puerto Rico es santero, entre otras cosas...
Too bad that you have not been exposed to all facets of your culture. What scares you is the unknown. Learn your cultures(yes, plural). The origins are sad but you need to embrace your heritage.
And YOU and the IDIOT narrator fail to realize that SANTERIA is supposed to be the Slave's substitution for Catholicism--ie the Slaves recognized or interpretted the similarities between African gods and Catholic Saints and interchanged them....PEOPLE LEARN SOMETHING UGH!!! It is NOT something to fear.
I'm entitled to my opinion! I don't think that part of our history is necessarily that important for us to embrace......those of us who wish not to. And UGH!!! to YOU!!!
That's because he's WHITE and an outsider and did not do his damn homework. I hate when White people try to explain something that they don't even clearly understand, just something his ignorant self probably heard or read in passing...ugh this irritates me.
Its a shame that the director of this video did not really good educational thing. I mean there is no clear distintion between Cuban Santeria and Puerto Rican Bomba. Things like this only lead to confusion.
Its like saying Bomba & Plena are the same thing...or maybe Merengue and Salsa...NOT!
Bomba has nothing to do with Yoruba religion its pure pleasure freedom to dance...its beautful and classy movements are precise not just plain wild.... What a shame THUMBS DOWN...
a mi me gustan los puertoriqueños porque son iguales que los cubanos jaja
PerlitaHabanera 2 months ago
ummm not to be rude but this is not La Bomba Puertorique~na....
555SceneQueen 3 months ago
Where is the rest of this footage?
blues2oo 4 months ago
:) Love this
kitana1234 5 months ago
Michael Jackson learn the moonwalk from Puertorrican bomba, watch careful and you will see.
gotdemagot 6 months ago
the music they were playing at the biginning is cuban. the statues the showed were from sears and part which showed the guys playing bomba (the only part of the vid in which they actually show something from here) was good until the bailador started to wave the rags (thats santeria, and santeria is cuban not puertorriquena)
carlosmohler 8 months ago
truly grateful for your sharing this. thank you.
chynamon03 8 months ago
Las Potencias se disputaron ese territorio, mejor dicho se lo anexaron, pero no han podido mucho con las raíces culturales.
orlando4166 9 months ago
Does anyone know the name of this documentary??
friedchicken100 9 months ago
Orgullosa estoy sobre estos Comentarios y argumentos por que por mas diferentes que sean los puntos de vistas sobre todo han sido con respeto y mientra mas hablamos de estos mas viva se mantiene la cultura que nos toco ... Taina , africana y espanola.
lucci98 9 months ago
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Shalamae87 11 months ago
i'm compelled to acknowledge the amazing puerto rican soul mixed with the lovely african heart. for sure, these two combined cultures are a compelling phenomenon that touches ALL unprejudiced minds...
peaces / love to puerto rico and africa.
afterray 1 year ago
@afterray Me gusto tu repuesta!
AlexJuanOrtiz 11 months ago
@AlexJuanOrtiz thank you.
afterray 11 months ago
me gusta esta musica, es directamente de Africa pura! asi es como se lo hace en africa: /watch?v=Ad9P1D4By_o
que viva la musica africana sea a donde sea!
streetnewz 1 year ago
CHEO SAYS ,THAT WAS HIS UNCLE PLAYING DRUMS , FUNNY THING IS IT REALY WAS HIS UNCLE HE SHOW ME PICTURES. LOL
GNOSTICDEE 1 year ago
where is this clip from??
ballroomlovah 1 year ago
@ballroomlovah -I watched this documentary online at pps.org or .com and i think it's called "The History of Latin Music"
oliveoiljulie 1 year ago
Que lindo! Lindo video. Que informativa
chsn09 1 year ago
Yo SOY BORICUA DE CORAZON!!! Y mi sangre tiene las razas Taina y Negra arraigadas. Yo bailo al son de lostambores y del guiro. Orgulloso estoy de ser Puertoriqueño!!!!!!!!!!
MazingerZ22 1 year ago
oh wow this is beautiful. I am mixed spaniard, born and raised in majorca but living in barcelona now. You puerto ricans should be proud only being just puerto rican regardless you are mixed or not because here in spain, we spanish cant stand eachother and is true that why so many left spain to be with someone who is different
susanboyle55 1 year ago
All of these African cabildos with their culture were established in the 1500s.
elmusicologo100 1 year ago
a country's identity through it's ethnology and sociology it's necessary to comprehend it's culture and how it formed. Remember the first bata drums came to the provinces of La Habana and Matanzas in the sixteenth century and it was in the island of Cuba where you had the first Yoruba Lucumi, Kongo(Zaire, Congo, Angola), Ganga(tribes from Liberia, Ivory Coast, Sierra Leone), Mandinga(Gambia to Sierra Leone) and Carabali(Efik, Ibibio, Ekoi, Ijaw and Ogoni) Cabildos(Societies of Mutual Help).
elmusicologo100 1 year ago
@elmusicologo100 yep, also there are some intermixes like carabali bomba rhythm for example which is from Puerto Rico and Cuba has Tumba Francesa and Puerto Ricans have bomba seis corrido which is pretty much the same rhythm. Pretty cool stuff. I think we have many differences but also have many things in common including starting in the 1600's and 1700's. Long live Cuba and Puerto Rico:) Don't let people bother you too much on youtube. Cuba and Puerto Rock:)
notecages25 1 year ago 6
not identical even though there are major similarities there are also major differences of events and culture. It seems the comments braced you in a negative way and please I apologize that was not my intention at all. I love and admire the history and culture of Puerto Rico being the great -grand son of a Puerto Rican woman but I urge to study the history of Cuba which very few seem to know about here. You are right it doesn't matter how whites or blacks live there but and understanding of
elmusicologo100 1 year ago
Junyto12 It appears you have misinterpreted my comments which are merely a statement based on history and anthropology to support the intense mixture that has has taken place in Cuba in response to some comments made earlier which were not too accurate. It seems you did not carefully read all my comments and maybe you did not understand them. My intentions are not negative at all but are based on principles of love and righteousness. I'm sorry but the history of Cuba and Puerto Rico is not...
elmusicologo100 1 year ago
why are u arguing about cuba and how many blacks or whites live there.it really doesnt matter,cuba and puerto rico have almost identical histories up the u.s invasion in 1898.the food, the culture,the language,puerto rico and cuba were the last 2 possesions of spain in america.up to the year 1898 there was huge trade between both islands.including families who lived between the 2 islands.don luis ferre a puerto rican born with cuban ancestry was the 2 nd governor of p.r.
junyto12 1 year ago 2
most of latin spanish songs which reached the middle east were puerto rican.....puerto rico is truly the island of music and wonderful people ......saludes
alhotti 1 year ago
Notice it doesn't say lineages but one lineage-"One human race" as translated from the Koine Greek "etnos" in single tense.
elmusicologo100 1 year ago
Sangreafrolatino and kwacou i share this with the utmost respect and without any intention to offend you. Many Blessings and to all viewers please research the history of every culture and nation to its deepest roots before stating facts that might mislead people. It is fact not personal opinion on fact that should be the basis of history. Let us remember the words of the only Savior Jesus in the book of Acts through the apostle Paul-"He(God) has made from one blood all the lineage of men".
elmusicologo100 1 year ago
Spanish and European ancestry just like most white have African and even some Taino ancestry. Kwacou, Cuba has always had a large white population as well a very strong black population with a many a time unrecognized mestizo/mulatto majority. Some statistics state 51% mulatto, 37%white and 11%black others 45%mulatto, 40%white and 14%black and there many others.
In the words of anthropologist Fernando Ortiz-"Nuestra tierra(Cuba) ofrece un precioso mosaico etnico"-El Pueblo Cubano from 1912-1913
elmusicologo100 1 year ago
It is a known fact by anthropology in Cuba that most white people in the island are descended from the mixture of Spaniards with mulatas or mulatos(mulattoe women and men) and sangreafrolatino the features of white Cuban are very unique due to this type of mixture yes they do have strong European features but only 10 to 15% are of pure Spanish descent. For instance look at the features of white Cubans today and Spaniards, strong resemblances but not entirely as well as most black Cubans have
elmusicologo100 1 year ago
Alejandro Von Humboldt(Alexander Von Humboldt) in his trip to Cuba in 1804 says "In this island of Cuba there are more mulattoes that anywhere else". Fernando Ortiz says of Cuba-"este amestizamiento de razas, pueblos y culturas soprepuja en trascendencia a cualquier otro fenomeno historico" and furthermore he says-"Las cuatro razas vulgares se han abrazado, cruzado y recruzado en nuestra tierra en cria de generaciones. Cuba es uno de los publos mas mezclados, mestizo de todas las progenituras".
elmusicologo100 1 year ago
@elmusicologo100
Querido musicólogo; soy asturiana, española y universal (hija de Dios) y mi bisabuela era habanera. Mi piel, blanca, mi corazón ancho cuando escucho la mùsica de los años 30.40.50 de Cuba. En aquel entonces se cantaba en claro, en alegre, en creativo, en hombre. Un abrazo.
lisagallego 1 year ago
of their family members their proof of "Limpieza de Sangre" due to intense mixture that was taking place in the Cuban population. Cuban Historian Fernando Portuondo says in his book "Historia de Cuba-1492-1898" that since the beginning of the conquest of Cuba the union-mostly illegitimate, that not under marriage-between Spaniards and Indian women and then with black and mulatto women was very frequent. This process is the ethnic and social backbone of the Cuban population. Furthermore ...
elmusicologo100 1 year ago
acquired certificates of "Limpieza de Sangre" or "Blanqueamiento Legal y Judicial" and this was an ongoing practice in colonial Cuba. Cuban foremost anthropologist Fernando Ortiz tells us in his book "Los Negros Esclavos"-1916, that since 1815 marriage between white people and mulattoes and blacks people was free and liberally accepted by the colonial authorities and judicial courts of Cuba. This was to point that even families of the aristocracy of "Noble Hidalguia" began to require of many..
elmusicologo100 1 year ago
@elmusicologo100 predominately but not quite European.. those are the ones I call off-whites and not "actual whites" (in terms of phenotype). Either way this conversation is unnecessary all I was trying to tell the user is that not everyone in the Caribbean has African ancestry, simple as that.
sangreafrolatino 6 months ago
Sangreafrolatino and kwcou I do not where you come from and please do not take as disrespectful what I am about to share with you but it seems you have a very poor knowledge of Cuban Ethnology. I am a musicologist and ethnologist from Cuba and your statements on the percentages and laxity of the term white in Cuba are not well founded. I have read archives, inscriptions and demographic chronicles that go back to the eighteenth century where there exist records of countless mulattoes that...
elmusicologo100 1 year ago
@elmusicologo100 I respect what you're saying. I am speaking from my point of few and living in three different areas of Cuba.. we're not talking about purity of blood, it maybe be that most whites who have colonial ancestry have mixed ancestry.. I'm actually involved in genetic studies so I know this, but the same can be said for white Americans most of them who have colonial ancestry have some non-white ancestry, so a little admixture has nothing to do with this.
sangreafrolatino 6 months ago
And I know about what is considered white in Cuba, many off whites are counted as white and that is why the census has the number so high but trust me when I say this people who look full out unmixed (regardless if they do have mixed ancestry down the line) in Cuba make up a significant part of the population. Especially in the central and western parts of the island.. and I know what Spaniards and other Europeans look like as I have traveled so I know what you mean about some who look
sangreafrolatino 6 months ago
yoooo the song is soooo on point- sounds just like yorubas in Nigeria. These guys did a good job
MrSocool07 1 year ago
What's all the debate about? If your from the Caribbean your roots are African, We only got there because of slavery. Whether you speak Spanish,Dutch,French or English we all share a common ancestry AFRICA. And yes many have European, as well as (Chinese/Indian found mostly in the English and Dutch Islands that's why we eat lots of curry in those islands), the African blood is what makes us West Indian or Caribbeans blessed to come from the most beautiful region on earth.
kwacou 1 year ago
@kwacou Sorry but that's not true at least not for Spanish speaking Caribbeans, Cuba especially but PR too, and to a lesser extent the Dominican had European immigration in the last three centuries, plus all the Spaniards coming from Caribbean times. So to say everyone has African blood would be wrong and forcing people into an ancestry that's not there's. On the other hand white Cubans, PRs, and to a lesser extent Dominicans who have no African blood are still cultures of their countries.
sangreafrolatino 1 year ago
@sangreafrolatino Cuba had a white majority up until the revolution, not anymore. I've been to Cuba and yes whites are about 35% of the current pop of Cuba. In PR I don't know the percentage but DR is definitely 80-85% African or mixed with African and I have been there many times. Also what passes for white, in the Spanish speaking countries of the Americas, would definitely not be considered white in other places they would be referred to as light complexioned blacks.
kwacou 1 year ago
@kwacou I'm not disagreeing although I don't agree on one thing.. in Cuba the term white isn't so lax, only certain light skinned mulatos pass at times as white, but the majority of what we call white do look fully european imo. But yeah in Puerto Rico and the DR the term white is very lax. I do agree Cuba is majority Afro-descendant. But we still have a white population.
Also, what passes as black in the US would not pass as black in most of the world. Don't forget that too.
sangreafrolatino 1 year ago
@sangreafrolatino Agree about Cuba that's why I said 35%.Cuban whites are not having any octoroon's,quadroon', and mulattoe passing for any kind of white. Your statement about most of the world, where did you get that info?I've lived in Europe (France,Italy and Belgium) for 3 yrs and travel extensively throughout and African born blacks as well as Caribbeans and South Americans were seen as black. In East Europe, anybody with color is called black. E Europe is the most racist place I've been.
kwacou 1 year ago
@sangreafrolatino
I do not agree with your statement, for you have it backwards. In most of the world, what IS NOT BLACK IN PR is still black. In Puerto Rico, few call themselves black. THINK ABOUT THIS: The USA is the ONLY country in the world where Africans were mixed with ALL of europe (NOT JUST SPAIN) , native Americans, asians, middle easterners and others and still proudly call ourselves black. IT IS NEVER ABOUT El COLOR DE PIEL; IT IS ALL ABOUT THE BLOODLINE!!! Genes don't Lie!!
mrbilingual 11 months ago
@kwacou I did my family history and DNA and we have no african in us! so no not all caribbean people have african! THANK YOU!
Shalamae87 1 year ago
@Shalamae87 You are correct there are Caribbeans with no African blood but they are a minority. But there can be no argument that our culture is predominately influenced by west Africa.
kwacou 1 year ago
@kwacou The debate is that what you're saying is simply not true. You're saying that all people from the Caribbean are descendants of African slaves and this is false. I used Cuba as an example because many Europeans settled in Cuba.. these people are straight up European not "African with some European, Indian, or Chinese blood" .. it seems you're implying that the basis of all Caribbean people is African ancestry and the others are just extra that some people have, but again this is not true.
sangreafrolatino 6 months ago
For the very reasons I just said. What is true is that all people from the Caribbean are CULTURALLY influenced by west african/black african people.. but not all are necessarily descendant of them. This isn't only true in the Spanish Caribbean.. look at the West Indies.. many people in Trinidad are straight up descendants of South-East Asians or the Caymann Islands which has a large European population. So I'll say it one more time many people form the Caribbean have no Black African ancestry.
sangreafrolatino 6 months ago
@sangreafrolatino I never said all, but all have been Africanized.I've lived in Trinidad, I'm Jamaican & aware of Indo/Caribbeans, my Great grand mother came from Hindustan (there was no nation called India at that time) and as I said previously, at least 35% of Cuba is European and they're Africanized and not very European except for their phenotype.Most recent people in Cayman are white but most true Caymanians are black or mixed black and have family origins in Jamaica, we were 1 until 1962.
kwacou 6 months ago
great clip - more please plus sources!!!!
danceprof1 1 year ago
Ay callense de tanto comentarios y escuchen la musica
ayalar1 1 year ago
@ayalar1 para escuhar la musica necesistas los oidos...no los ojos. No leas y escucha.
crystalship42 1 year ago
holy crap, 6:17, two pianos!!!!!! awesome.
congaddict 1 year ago
man thats some good dancing!
BronxBeauty8 1 year ago
to those people tha want to say that they are are pure spaniard or canarain because thats the closest you can ge to whiteness you are wrong in puerto rico we are all mixed and look at your children, grandparent or even parent , I have friends whos parents are black as ever and because they are light skin still wana say that they are white from spain lol there are no pure bloods from spain
oloyumiya 1 year ago
@oloyumiya I'm sorry but there is. Yeah, denying your roots is wrong, but mestizaje is even worse to try to say "everyone is mixed" is mixed would be a lie, because I know many people from PR who have had both sides of grandparents or great grandprents coming from Europe.. my dad included although my mom IS mixed. why do some people think all the people in their country have to be the same racial mix? the fact that we might be different races but consider each other 1 people is what is amazing.
sangreafrolatino 1 year ago
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teresaguerrasalazar 6 months ago
@teresaguerrasalazar No metan a los venezolanos en sus diatribas mediocres, en Venezuela no nos creemos nada, somos venezolanos y punto, y recibimos a todos los visitantes, vengan de donde vengan, con cariño y hospitalidad de hecho vienen y se quedan, no tenemos complejos de ningún tipo, te invito a visitarnos y serás bienvenida!!!!
cazam71 6 months ago
Puerto Ricans should rescue the Afro-Caribbean culture. This is something which many other aspects of our culture has tried to suppress. But still expressed in the different variations of the Yoruba religion, music, literature, poetry, etc. Puerto Rico is a good example of the culture of the peoples and the state are bitter enemies.
rakim282828 1 year ago
Los puertorriqueños debemos rescatar esa cultura afrocaribeña. Esto es algo que como muchos otros aspectos de nuestra cultura se ha tratado de reprimir. Pero que aun así se expresa en las diferentes variaciones de la religión yoruba, en la música, literatura, poesía, etc. Puerto Rico es un buen ejemplo de que la cultura de los pueblos y el estado son enemigos acérrimos.
rakim282828 1 year ago
chango oh nooo
TheChocoloco95 1 year ago
la musica del principio no es bomba,es un canto a oggun santo de la religion yoruba
lamulatona06 1 year ago
I love the video and the information could not be more accurate. There is something about the drumms that will take you away and himnotize you and somehow you find yourself just completely gone with the music. I am Proud of my heritage. Thanks for sharing...
nubia092 1 year ago
Tremenda aportacion! Reconoci a Felipe Luciano. Podrias identificar a los musicos que hablan?
seriela 1 year ago
they make this sound as if we did witch craft or something...
featherheart101 1 year ago
There is alot more History than this narrator would suggest regarding how the Indians of The Borinquen Islands (Plural), began their practices of Idolatry and the worship of the Four Elements. It Dates back further than just a modern enterpretation of events and folklore.
The Characteristics of those Indians who were in those Islands as well as the North and South American Indians were all one people united at one point. They were called the Northern Kingdom.
1Ephraimite 1 year ago
Puerto Ricans are the Tribe of Ephraim from the Bible.You can clearly see this in the scriptures how Ephraim would submit themselves to worshiping the false God called Ba'al-im, which is the worship of the elements.You can also see the connection because it wasn't just the Tribe of Ephraim but the whole Northern Kingdom of Israel.
1Ephraimite 1 year ago
That's why you can also see that same woship among (So-called) North American Indians, as well as the Aztecs and the Mayan Indians. All of the Northern Kingdom followed the worship of Ba'al in some way shape or form. The Indians of the North and South Americas are the Lost Tribes of Israel.
1Ephraimite 1 year ago
@1Ephraimite :-0
crystalship42 1 year ago
Santeria (the name not the religion deriving from Cuba) is actually based a West African religion of Lukumi of Nigeria.This indigenous population was enslaved, from high priest to farmers, to work sugar fields and forced into a belief far from their own. In times of desperation, wherever they ended up, they took their self being. It is a merge of Yuruba, Catholic and Native religion. I should know with History BA and Phillosophy MA. Very touchy subject to correct without first knowing.
ktorres2000 1 year ago
La santeria no tiene nada que ver con la bomba puertorriqueña. la santeria es cubana y la bomba es puertorriqueña. inclusive la bomba que aqui se presenta estaá distorsionada no estan tocando con el ritmo tradicional ni estan bailandola como realmente se baila. En resumen esta distorcionada. y creanme yo se de esto!
ariolito01 1 year ago
WRONG!
ktorres2000 1 year ago
@ktorres2000 YOU DON,T KNOW NOTHING ABOUT PR BOMBA
ariolito01 1 year ago
cuando llegan los Españoles y traen parte nuestros ancestros los africanos y los esclavizan y les imponen sus creencias, como le imponen el cristianismo, los esclavos africanos se vieron obligados a ocultar sus entes religiosas, con los "santos" catolicos, es decir, como muchos de los santos que adoraban los esclavos no era el mismo santo de la religion catolica, ya que los esclavos ocultaban sus entes, entre los santos,
yamilRn 1 year ago
Yes PeePee. Is what is call Religious Syncretism. Is the mix of expressions and beliefs in order to be accepted for one of the contrapart. Like giving african names to catholic saints and using them in religious rituals is one example. :-)
crystalship42 2 years ago
Hun: Grandma,' Grandmother, Grandmamma, Bisabuela, (just in case you don't know how to write in Spanish). Where you are going now, I already had been there. But you are making a big effort so is good.
crystalship42 2 years ago
My facts, I grew up there. I lived most of my life in Puerto Rico. If you say "white." that is half of our being. Three are the red stripes in our flag. Three bloods: Taino, Black and Spaniard. If you think you're a "white" with puertorrican culture. If you think your "euro blood" is fine. What can I say? Me, I can eat Taino casabe bread, Italian sausages, African sancocho soup and Spanish omelet with no problem. I have the best of the three worlds and I enjoy it.
crystalship42 2 years ago 44
@crystalship42 Yes, but culture is different than ancestry. All PRs are culturally influenced by Euros, Africans, and Tainos in that order, but not all of them have Taino blood and not all of them have African blood. Some PRs are fully Euro, some though rare of fully African, sadly there aren't who are fully Taino... but anyways not everyone has to be the same race in order for them to be one people... that's what's great about Latin America and PR.
sangreafrolatino 1 year ago
@sangreafrolatino I just like to know where the pure Euros are today. Tell me where. They're not who is fully nothing or fully everything. That's why. What makes puertorrican who we are is because of the mix of our race. Tainos, Spanish, African and then the rest.
crystalship42 1 year ago
@crystalship42 Well my dad for example is of Canarian and French descent.. and he considers himself 100% PR even without African or Taino blood.. and even with that he's proud of the African and Taino influence in our culture. There are many PRs who I know personally that draw their ancestry solely to Europe... don't forget that there was a huge European/Lebanese/Syrian immigrant influx in the 20th and 19th century.
sangreafrolatino 1 year ago
@sangreafrolatino Yes..I understand but mixed with natives from the Island. I have black french anscestors. Pure spaniard blood from my mom's side. But I'm talking about the fundamental races of our heritage. We are talking about more than 500 hundreds years back. Where are those Euros now?
crystalship42 1 year ago
@crystalship42 I agree. I'm so tired of Ricans that distance themselves so much from Africa. So MANY Boricuas that label themselves "white" have some vestiges of African features right on their light skinned faces. Pretty soon they will revise history and say that ALL the blackness in PR is as a result of the Dominican brothers and sisters that live in PR. Mark my words.
My sincere apologies to all the Dominicans who have been looked down upon by SOME ignorant Boricuas. Peace.
jujuman23 1 year ago
@crystalship42 - I too grew up in Puerto Rico. I am puertorrican born in NY. I have explained to many over the years the origens of the puertoricans and our culture. You put it nicely . It's a mix I am extremely proud of.Viva Puerto Rico! La isla del Encanto!
Funny the look on my white friends faces when I tell them there are light skin puertorricans and black as black, but we are all proud puertorricans.
Shescorpio1 1 year ago 4
@crystalship42 so do i!, well said
yayayarelis 11 months ago
@crystalship42 Good point!
chsn09 9 months ago
@crystalship42 ALSO THERE IS FRENCH AND ITALIAN AND CHINESE MIXED THERE. WOULD LOVE TO FIND OUT MORE ON MY LINEAGE ,BUT I KNOW THESE ARE IN MY ANCESTRY AS WELL.
melissa110406 7 months ago
Tell me where the pure whites are living now in Puerto Rico....I know about Hollands, French, Italians, Chinese, Spaniards descendants that came to the Island more than 500 hundred years ago. Where are they now?
crystalship42 2 years ago 2
Chillin en Barrio Obrero! jajaja
MachuPicchuTours 2 years ago
Graciosito!!!...:-)
crystalship42 2 years ago
@crystalship42 I mean with all respect...If he is from the Canarias. My apreciation if he feels PR is nice. But is difficult to accept those europeans didn't mix with puertorricans like my ancestors did. A French will be a French with puertorrican culture. A Puertorrican is the full package.
crystalship42 1 year ago
@crystalship42 exactly people that aren't puerto rican go to puerto rico for a few years and call themselves puerto ricans and thats not how it goes
TheChocoloco95 1 year ago
@TheChocoloco95 lol. Shut up mr puerto Rico.
ddot1979 1 year ago
@crystalship42 Umm no he has no ties to those countries at all... ethnicity isn't about genetics, so it doesn't matter where his ancestors came from... are you saying that everyone who isn't taino, black, and european isn't puerto rican? or do you just have to be mixed somehow? I don't know why he wouldn't be Puerto RIcan if he has never known anything else.
sangreafrolatino 1 year ago
@sangreafrolatino With all respect. It is about genetics...How U think they can figure it out if you're asian, black, hispanic when U die?..Hehe..We are different. We have similarities. That is what maintain us together in the Caribbean. But we have our culture, heritage and history and the fusion of the races to make who we are. Look and read our history. I can't go to Cuba and say I'm cuban even when we have sililarities.
crystalship42 1 year ago
I can say...there's no whites "whites" in Puerto Rico...Now I can say like our poet Vizcarrondo: "Tu color te salio blanco, y las mejillas rosa, los labios los tienes finos y tu abuela ?aonde esta?". My skin is white. green eyes, thin nose and face. My real hair texture is fine waive. My grandma from my father side is black french descendant. My grantgrandMom from my Mom's side was from Spain. We all are mix my friends and we are special :-)
crystalship42 2 years ago 2
Um of course their is Whites in Puerto Rico MY FAMILY ... Just because your White looking and have a black grandfather dont mean every Puerto Rican has black or Native In them ... My family is all euro blood equals white! so i have to disagree with you on that one. My family came from Europe and mixed with other Europeans on the Island ...! So I dont know where you get your facts from .... Yes we are mixed but their are pure races on the Island just being raised with Puerto Rican culture!
Shalamae87 2 years ago
**grandmother
Shalamae87 2 years ago
@Shalamae87
I know it has been a year since you respond, but you said something that is contradictory. You claim to be "all white" but said that you have a black grandfather. Either you are confused or your grandfather is/was white. Even so, I doubt very seriously that your ancestry is 100% European. I like Ricans (always have, always will). When I see a honey to light complexed Rican, I know he is Rican. Even in the States, the blondes and blues ARE NOT genetically all white.
mrbilingual 11 months ago
@mrbilingual
I think your getting my comment confused with someone else. within the year I did more research on my family and I did More DNA testing and theres no black in me, Actually my family is only two generations in with my mothers side ... and my grandfather who we thought had black or Native in him came actually we we're wrong hes euro with Indian blood from India and thats where he gets his dark skin and the light eyes come from the Euro blood. Thats my fathers fathers.
Shalamae87 11 months ago
Bomba is "in part" from Santeria. It beginnings we can say, was a way of black african religion expression during slavery and a fight for maintain their african roots in Puerto Rico against the new european religion. Also is use in Santeria rituals. But also is part of our cultural expression in Puerto Rico using all kind of social aspects of the culture.
crystalship42 2 years ago
hum.Interesting. Sort of lke Palo in Santo Domingo. My parents are Santiago, not Santo D. my mother told me not all Palo was used for brujeria, she told me that in towns in the south (Santo Domingo) people used the music for their town patrons as well. Osea, their catholic rituals.
Cool.
I like Bomba so much!
Ciao
PeepeeYChuchuka 2 years ago
So bomba is from Santeria?!
PeepeeYChuchuka 2 years ago
la santeria en puerto rico se oculto por completo.siendo practicada solo por unos pocos individuos que lograron mantener vivos los dioses yoruba y bantu.dentro del espiritismo se integraron varias practicas de santeria y palo,al igual que el vudu haitiano.sin embargo la santeria como se practica hoy vino de cuba en los anos 30 y 40.igualmente el palo mayombe.antes de esto se trabajaba una especie de mescla llamado espiritismo cruzao en el que si es verdad los tainos tuvieron mucha influencia.
junyto12 2 years ago
Que tal!!
Leyendo tu comentario, en lo personal me surgieron varias cuestiones que quisiera que me las aclares porfavor. En qué se distingue el espiritismo de la santería, cuáles son los elementos religiosos que distinguen ambos términos el uno del otro. A qué te refieres con "palo mayombé" . Y en dónde se puede encontrar la influencia taina de la que mencionas.
Espero puedas responder mis preguntas, ya que viendo los comentarios y el video, me parece que hay una pequeña confusión.
ricardoragm 2 years ago
Boriquas keep our traditions alive for our ancestors the Tainos had a role to play in what is now modern Santeria learn the truth my brothers and sisters!!!
G5ive1 2 years ago
tainos had no role in santeria. What taino language are they speaking, where are the taino rythms, what about the taino dance. Santeria came from the yorubas of nigeria. The only outside influence in christianity.
rotena25 2 years ago 5
Give respect to where its due, do not take black culture and replace it as something else.
rotena25 2 years ago 2
@ rotena
I'm not sure what your trying to get at with your comment but you said "do not take black culture and replace it as something else" If you didn't know Puerto Ricans are mixed with black, indian and spanish and sometimes other mixes. Our culture is influenced by that mix. You talked about Taino language and ryhtms exc but did you know that almost of the Tainos were killed off? It's in the blood line and some people still play those rhytms in PR.
RicoRicanNYC 2 years ago
Not all puerto ricans have the same mixture, and all are not mixed. Bomba, plena and santeria belongs to black, not whites, indians or mezstitos whatever they call themselves.
rotena25 2 years ago
Who cares about how the people are mixed up? Really!!! Bomba, plena, as well as other styles of music like merengue, Spanish guitar, Cuban exc.. have been introduced to Puerto Rico so they play it and add there own style!! big deal!!
Chinese Kung Fu has been introduced to america a long time ago so should the Chinese cry and complain saying that it belongs to the Chinese people? It's been introduced and the people like it, practice it, and thats it!
RicoRicanNYC 2 years ago
Muy bonito, pero tengo un problema con este video. Soy decendiente de africanos y nunca conoci la santeria hasta la llegada de los cubanos a la isla. Si sabia de espiritismo. Y la bomba fue una creacion del que salio de los negros esclavos cuando en las noches y en sus ratos libres cantaban y bailaban para sobrellevar la vida de esclavo.
71452c 2 years ago
Es que el concepto de santería en este video, en primer lugar, no está bien explicado. :(
Arwym 2 years ago
id like to download this in high quality
sensationsuperthrust 2 years ago
Duda, yo soy de México pero me gusta indagar sobre otras culturas. ¿Se puede decir que la bomba es una expresión de rituales profano-religiosos nativos de puerto rico?
roenguva 2 years ago
Roenguva- No, La bomba es una expresion de los puertorriqueños pero su influencia mas grande proviene de los negros esclavos que llegaron a PR.
katguy22 2 years ago 2
No. La bomba proviene de la influencia africana y no necesariamente tiene que ver con "rituales profano-religiosos".
Arwym 2 years ago
Pero es que la Bomba es mucho mas antigua que esto mi gente. La bomba nacio como forma de expresion espiritual y social en contra de la opresion cultural que sentia el negro esclavo. Y de ahi a tenido sus variantes. Pero sigue siendo nuestra bomba.
crystalship42 2 years ago
to see...
sensationsuperthrust 2 years ago
i would like o thee the rest of the interview in the very end!
sensationsuperthrust 2 years ago
este baila quedo brutal!
laly3196 2 years ago
Que me perdonen pero esa no es la bomba que yo conozco el vídeo esta atrasado par de años.
bombazo1 2 years ago
Lo que tu conozes entonces no es bomba.
MrBorikua23 2 years ago
Hace falta cantarle y darle sazón a unos cuantos muñequitos de yeso?
Eltigredeuruguay 2 years ago 2
si te fustigaban cuando querias expresarte, si violaban a tus hias cuando llegaban a penas a la pubertad, si trabajabas de sol a sol para dormir en una choza de paja, si te trajeron a una isla del caribe amarrado con cadenas ...y para colmo te prohibian practicar tu religion; Entonces si valia la pena cantar y darle sazon a unos santos de hombre blanco que solo servian de medio de reprensentacion de tu religion. Estudia, lee, aprende.
Solavaya pa ti!
wesvaz 2 years ago
claro que si es bomba. al principio de este video es un mix de santeria/bomba en el idioma yoruba. they are singing and chanting in the yoruba language.
but i don't hate. Viva Puertorro!
datnyboi22 2 years ago 5
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gayputa 2 years ago
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Que mala reputacion le das a los Boricuas. mas mala de la que ya la tienen aqui en Miami. Eres demasiado lento para entender que casinoparatodos no dijo que la bomba no era Puertorique~a. La bomba es puertorique~a pero la musica al principio de este video no es bomba.
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gayputa 2 years ago
cierto con v, viejo con v, celosos con c.
La moba es de ustedes( aunque es de influenica clara de la tumba frnacesa declarad patrimonio de la humanidad por la UNESCO), pero la musica que hoy llman salsa caprichosamente es musica cubana tocada por otros y los propios musicos lo saben.
casinoparatodos 2 years ago
estas feliz???? casinoparatodos no me enteresa lo que dices hahhaah salsa bomba lo quesea es nuestra no te enojes alegrate quesomos los mejores , poreso los cubanos se mudan ilegal para puerto rico gracias que tanto nos envidia. comete esa. muahhhhhh
gayputa 2 years ago
No No lo que dices no tiene ningun sentido, ustedes solo estan en camino y mas nada, por eso los cubanos pasan por ahi. Pero ademas que tiene que ver eso, con el tema de la musica?. Siempre los puertoriquenios caen en el mismo tema cuando no les queda nada que decir en temas musicales.
Pero lo peor del caso es que siempre caen en el tema de la politica cuando son los que menos deberian hacer, o ya le te olvido que son un estado subyugado de los americanos.
casinoparatodos 2 years ago
Mira las migraciones siempre han existido. Y si, es cierto que Cuba vive una historia dificil, pero no es un perro de los Estados Unidos como lo son ustedes que son un pais anexado y lame botas con la historia mas triste y vergonzosa de toda latinoamerica. Por eso se pasan la vida exagerando sobre si mismos y ni siquiera tienen una musica que puedan decir que es propia.
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lamaravilla 2 years ago
lo que es la maldita envidia!!! ustedes critican porque les duele que PR sea una isla tan bendecida en muchisimas formas! somos un estado LIBRE ASOCIADO!!! osea, estamos aliados a EU pero tenemos nuestras propias leyes, elegimos nuestro gobernador, teneos nuestra propia cultura, etc. Envidian porque los boricuas gracias a Dios y al gobierno de EU, nacen con ciudadania americana, envidian porque tenemos muchisimos cantantes, artistas talentosos reconocidos mundialmente que llevan en nombre de
lamaravilla 2 years ago
nuestra isla bien en alto. Critican nuestra musica y te apuesto que no hacen un "party"sin poner el dichosos reggaeton o la pegajosa salsa. Y nuestra historia es una de las mas interesantes y diferentes de latinoamerica. Les duele que PR desde que se descubrio en los 1493 sea un isla tan destacada por su belleza y demas. No se porque este tema tiene que ser tan controversial y traer tantos insultos y comentarios negativos hacia la cultura puertoriqueña, al fin y al cabo todos somos latinos y
lamaravilla 2 years ago 5
debemos celebrar nuestras culturas sin tener que tirarse unos a otros!
lamaravilla 2 years ago
Diso mio esto es musica afrocubana(yoruba, hasta donde va a llegar la anormalidad de los ignorantes
Si paso de cuba para alli , y ahi le quisieron llamr bomba a todoa costa ya es otra cosa , pero suave con las cannionas!!
casinoparatodos 2 years ago
Mas ignorante no puedes parecer!!!! Es hecho historial que la Bomba origino en Loiza, Puerto Rico durante el siglo 17, no robado de Cuba. Sacate el pie de la boca y abrete un maldito libro de historia de vez en cuando, pendejo!!!! Son comemierdas como tu que le dan la tremenda mala fama que sufre el cubano. Ya dejate de la envidia que nos tienes a nosotros los puertorriquenos y concentrate en mejorar tu reputacion de balcero!!!
Allycous22 2 years ago
VAMOS POR PARTES. PARTE 1. ESTE DOCUMENTAL O EL TITULO ES SUBVERSIVO PUES TRATA DE DEMOSTRAR LA PRESENCIA DE LA BOMBA EN LA SALSA LA CUAL ES MUY ESCASA. LA LLAMADA SALSA ESTA HECHA DE RITMOS CUBANOS EN CASI SU TOTALIDAD. PERO ok VAMOS ALLA , LA PRIMERA CANSION QUE SALE NO ES NI REMOTAMENTE BOMBA , ES YORUBA, MUSICA AFROCUBANA, PATRIMONIO CUBANO. SE TOCA CON TAMBORES BATA LOS CUALES FUERON LLEVAODS A ESCENAS SALSERAS POR PRIMERA VEZ POR MONGO SANTAMARIA Y OTROS CUBANOS.
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gayputa 2 years ago
sabes(es con B), bomba(es con m antes de b, no sabes ni escribir bien el nombre de lo que defiendes como tu musica , que mas se te puede pedir), hables (es con h) . Si, todos llevamos herencia africana, pero los procesos de transculturacion no son tan sencillos y Cuba es la rectora en el Caribe en cuanto a musica. Lo unico que he dicho aqui es que es un disparate poner la musica Yoruba (afrocubana) como bomba.
casinoparatodos 2 years ago
@casinoparatodos
Totalmente de acuerdo contigo
candelacub 1 year ago
PuertoRico...Clave Sabroson!! ehh la que hay!!
nadie como nosotros...Ese Canto es Para Oggun, Aguaniye ' Aguaniye' comansieirawo Aguaniye. Aguanile' Maii Maii...La Religion Yoruba(Santeria)
BoriquaRikan1227 2 years ago 2
amo mis raices PUERTO RICO #1
polymichelle1 2 years ago 2
You have to love this!
Kell1295 2 years ago
Ah!! Y no te lo Meto en Ingles por que soy Boricua pero te lo Meti Bien Duro en Espanol.
bigpingui 2 years ago
Que Yuba ni que Yuba jodios anormales, no ven que dice BOMBA punetaa! si no saben pa' que karajo se meten a ver estos videos BOMBA! BOMBA! PUNEETAA!!!! AY QUE RICO ES SER BORICUA!!! bueno mi gente ya yo reserve con papito Dios, cuando yo muera rencarnar en mi bella Isla Del Encanto,,, PUERTO RICOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! TE AMO
bigpingui 2 years ago 6
Tranquilo! Yuba, Sica y Holandés son tres ritmos básicos dentro de la Bomba
Oramiu 2 years ago
jajaja!!!!!!!!!!
clarissa1133 2 years ago
Valgame Dios!! pero tranquilo!! suena demasiao!!
popeye802 2 years ago
The Bomba they are playing in this video is real up beat what rhythm is it? Is it Sica or Yuba?
CF201 2 years ago
Sounds more Yuba to me.
RKGOLF 2 years ago
Salsa mi jente esto es salsa de la buena... Te lo dice un Borinkano de Borinken. Peace
caserioboricua 2 years ago
beatiful dance!
priscillajames 2 years ago
y eso es un baile cultural !! jajaja ! ya quiesiera el bailar eso! q pena!!! soy una boricua bn orgulosaaaa! Puerto rico lo hace mejor!
aritzaynieves 2 years ago 4
q ridiculo ignorante !!!
aritzaynieves 2 years ago
Moreniqua,
people that do stuff like this are so irresponsible...they create more ignorance ...I hate that also! Hopefully Ill be able in a future here in You Tube to honor cultures from around the World! Check my humble page! Ciaoooo!...
Inaru27 2 years ago 2
De verdad que es una lastima que escriban de cosas que no se han dado a la tarea de investigar. De cualquier manera el creador de este video es el primer responsable en este caso... Le faltan datos, detalles y un contexto mas responsable en cuanto a que no todo Puerto Rico es santero, entre otras cosas...
1CrazyGata 3 years ago 6
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WOW....this scares the crap out of me!!! I can't relate to it. As a Puerto Rican, thank God I was never exposed to this.
Lamiriam1 3 years ago
Too bad that you have not been exposed to all facets of your culture. What scares you is the unknown. Learn your cultures(yes, plural). The origins are sad but you need to embrace your heritage.
nbetancourt54 3 years ago 6
Exactly
lscdelight 3 years ago
i am puerto rican and these are just typical dances...They are painting us out to be something we are all not
lscdelight 3 years ago
And YOU and the IDIOT narrator fail to realize that SANTERIA is supposed to be the Slave's substitution for Catholicism--ie the Slaves recognized or interpretted the similarities between African gods and Catholic Saints and interchanged them....PEOPLE LEARN SOMETHING UGH!!! It is NOT something to fear.
Moreniqua 2 years ago 2
I'm entitled to my opinion! I don't think that part of our history is necessarily that important for us to embrace......those of us who wish not to. And UGH!!! to YOU!!!
Lamiriam1 2 years ago
So what part of history do you think is necessary to embrace...as a Puertorican??
Tropicoco123 2 years ago
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gayputa 2 years ago
What da fuck are you saying?? Post your comment in the right place "Mami".
Tropicoco123 2 years ago
El director de esta película no hizo una clara distinción entre la Santería cubana y la Bomba puertorriqueña...Quien lo vé jura que es la misma cosa.
La Bomba es un baile de movimientos precisos y aunque hay espacio para la improvisación está muy lejos de ser algo desordenado.
Este video falla en su intento educacional solo crea confución para el público que no conoce.
Ninguna estrella para el director....
¡que viva la Bomba Puertorriqueña!
Inaru27 3 years ago 4
That's because he's WHITE and an outsider and did not do his damn homework. I hate when White people try to explain something that they don't even clearly understand, just something his ignorant self probably heard or read in passing...ugh this irritates me.
Moreniqua 2 years ago 4
Its a shame that the director of this video did not really good educational thing. I mean there is no clear distintion between Cuban Santeria and Puerto Rican Bomba. Things like this only lead to confusion.
Its like saying Bomba & Plena are the same thing...or maybe Merengue and Salsa...NOT!
Bomba has nothing to do with Yoruba religion its pure pleasure freedom to dance...its beautful and classy movements are precise not just plain wild.... What a shame THUMBS DOWN...
Inaru27 3 years ago 3