Aikido - two attackers

[senseilance]

Thanks. Very helpful for me as I prepare for 2nd Dan exam next month.

[brazilianman92]

I think those who have not used aikido themselves in real life scenarios should have no say in this matter. Ive used it and i love it. I learned karate after aikido in hopes of seeing some action. All i realized was defense wins every-time if the defender is calm and learned. In street fights in my experience i never attack first. We martial artists tend to learn to be respectable and not jump other people. The other arts are good on occasions. However aikido is the first line of defense = win

[SuperThatGame]

For those people who say "just let go" thats a really stupid move. You do, and 9 times out of 10 you put them in a better position to strike. I tried in my aikido class. Learned a valuable lesson.

[akaFobb]

@SuperThatGame Wouldn't you be in a worse position if you held on? I mean I'd rather still be on my feet and take my chance with a strike than be on my back and know for sure what's coming...

[SuperThatGame]

@akaFobb Example: lets take one throw I know. When the attacker grabs both your wrists, you turn next to them and then is they hold on you can throw them. If the attacker lets go, you step back and use a backhanded strike to break the jaw. In this situation if either had let go then he would have benn in the perfect position to perform an utemi strike. Very, very nasty punch to the throat/ jugular. By holding on they can follow the attack minimizing damage.

[SuperThatGame]

@akaFobb Basically what I'm saying is that all of these movements have a backup plan which is normally much worse for the attacker. Or they are variations on a strike the attacker has blocked.

[Kazmoli1]

this guy is like superman

[BCCmma64bang]

when and where in the world would two people attack in such a manner! as usual the traditional arts are so out of touch with modern combat. In reality it would be two people attacking with kicks and wild punches or even knives.

[Maxflie]

@BCCmma64bang What Stefan is showing is the basics (hopefully that is clear). It is quite hard to run before you can crawl. They could of course just be able to let go but what sense makes it to defend one self if the attack is half done and the attacker just lets go after a while? This is how you start to train and then it gets faster. Maybe you thought it was for real and Stefan feared for his life? Then it makes no sense in being calm. But it is not for real, they are training.

[Maxflie]

@BCCmma64bang Another thing, the harder the attack is the harder they fall. If two attackers would attack as you say then it would hurt a lot, on the attackers. Aikido is not using any force at all, the best aikido I have ever seen is when the Aikidoka is completely calm no mather the attack. The harder the attack is the more it hurts. What is modern combat? Krav Maga? Extremely effective, but I would never say anything bad about other forms of self defence or martial arts. You shouldnt either.

[BCCmma64bang]

@Maxflie I have every right to say what i want! Aikido does not work in the real world! with most other fighting styles you can see some sort of video on you tube showing it being used in a situation where someone is padded up and wearing a helmet and attacking thier training partner in as real a way as possible, you never see this for Aikido. Attacks are fast and random in real life most of the stuff you learn in any art goes out the window when its for real. Jkd is Good for the street.

[Swifticus1990]

@BCCmma64bang Most people who do martial arts for the right reasons would acknowledge that the most potent form of self defence is having the confidence to know that you do not have to use violence at all. Yes Krav Maga is an incredibly effective form of physical self defence, my uncle used to teach it and I learned a little off him, but Aikido also teaches you a balance of mind which allows you to talk your way out of a situation and defuse it in a way that doesn't send someone to the hospital.

[BCCmma64bang]

@Swifticus1990 get real! you must be living in some pretend mystical martial arts fantasy world. I have ove 25yrs experience in various arts and believe me when it happens for real its a different world. People in real situations are not as compliant as your training partner!

[NKA23]

@BCCmma64bang

Yup, you´re right, but still it´s quite useful to have some sort of training if one is ever attacked.

[brazilianman92]

@BCCmma64bang ha yea and from living in a harsh getto i Brazil all the way to harsh getto in America. None martial art learned fighters are pathetic. So yea training partners are less agrresive. But at least not easily pushed into rage into which my swift moves and calm mind end me and in saying "are you ok ?" more times than i could count. This is my knowledge based on Mexican knife wielding thugs and racist assholes in AZ ive downed. I've never lost a "street fight" per say.

[brazilianman92]

@BCCmma64bang As i stated before this point is humorous. I use a mix of my own high grade in black belt in aikido bjj and karate. I tell you aikido is by far my favorite. Ive downed Mexican thugs in AZ and racist hicks claiming to pack heat. Only to have them on their ass with me asking "are you ok sir ?" Karate is good for single foes who are not easily moved. bjj is ground game. But aikido has multiple attackers defense in there its amazing. Don't knock till you try it.

[brazilianman92]

@Maxflie Indeed i have beaten other fighters with only my aikido easily. Calmness and self belief are the best tools a fighter can have. But fighting against different styles is the best teacher in my experience. Ive learned many styles but I personally claim bias to my love for aikido it rocks.

[rkononykhin]

Thats not futari dori.

[Aikidostenudd]

@rkononykhin Of course it is. Two attackers. But it's gotai, from a static starting point, and not jutai or kinagare, with constant movement. Maybe that's what you refer to?

[rkononykhin]

@Aikidostenudd @Aikidostenudd I refer to Aikido Yoshinkan. Thats we consider as futari dori -

[rkononykhin]

@Aikidostenudd @Aikidostenudd I refer to Aikido Yoshinkan. Thats we consider as futari dori - watch?v=lVNRiA0q9EQ

[Brady2k10]

@rkononykhin its tandori chicken curry

[MrKingronaldo]

i think this does not work i think Jiu Jitsu is better.

[happiglad]

@MrKingronaldo I've done Jiu Jitsu, and believe me, Aikido renders your much more helpless.

[MrKingronaldo]

@happiglad but for example in a real fight if the guy throws u down are you gonna be able to do those moves on him??

[happiglad]

@MrKingronaldo True that, I believe you're referring to making use of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. Well the Idea of Aikido is to not get thrown down..

[MrKingronaldo]

@happiglad well imma try it it looks to easy but i can do it lol

[r1ckyp33]

HAAA FUCK OFF WHEN THE HELL AM A EVER GOWING TO GET 2 PEOPLE HOLDING ON TO ME LIKE THAT

[bushin64]

Thank you for sharing this video. Awesome demonstration.

[ddicecca]

I think that most people with [some] sense would just. . . let go.

[Aikidostenudd]

@ddicecca, letting go is not that easy, if the attack is properly committed, and the defense is not equally aggressive.

[fabiobranno]

@ddicecca The idea is not to "defeat" the attakers, but just "be free". So, if they let go (if the could), you simply reach the goal.....;)

[stallione79]

@ddicecca I think most people who attack are committed to finishing what they started. Hanging on is an unconscious thing the brain does I believe.  It might also have something to do with pride. Besides if you counter fast enough they wont have time to even consider letting go.

[goulmn]

i have my doubts that this would ever work should someone attack him on the street

[pokeherface87]

wonder if they fingered each others bums after the video was taken?

[captheim]

Please excuse the rude comments of the ignorant, Sensei; those with IQ's in the double digits simply will not understand how to translate kata exercise into practical technique.  For all you critics, you know nothing about Aikido until you've tried it for a few years, so you aren't qualified to disparage it.

[Gumbi1012]

I don't agree. Having trained in several martial arts, I have a good enough idea of the "situation" to make a judgment whether or not I find that a particular technique is effective or not in a certain scenario; on the street for example.

[captheim]

Hmmm, by that logic, since I speak Spanish and English, I am qualified to say that Japanese grammar is ineffective? The simple fact is you do not fully understand the subtleties of these techniques until you have studied them 5 to 10 years. You're judging them purely by whether they LOOK effective; you haven't felt them for yourself! You are only qualified to judge martial arts that you have practiced for many years. Otherwise, you're just another noob running at the mouth.

[Gumbi1012]

No. A language is learnt by listening/reading, not seeing. I could join a jiu jitsu club tomorrow and learn many techniques a lot quicker than other beginners.

I'd like to see those techniques pressure tested that's all, otherwise, from my perspective, I believe that this technique would be ineffective in a realistic situation.

[13dojokid]

aikido is a martial arts for self defense i practice aikido for some time now and i have applide everything i learn in aikido even if they have guns or knifes aikido is real i tought it was fake but once a study aikido i saw everything way diffrent

[Gumbi1012]

This video does not represent a realistic multiple attack scenario whatsoever. Also, why the hell were they all holding hands? And that takedown technique does not look like it would work at all.

[FinalKenny2]

Do you know what a kata is?

Didn't think so.

Ignorant twats.

[Gumbi1012]

I know exactly what kata is. Don't be so insulting. You didn't address my point at all.

The situation they are presenting is completely unrealistic and very unlikely

[FinalKenny2]

You simply don't know what a kata is. Maybe you have some sort of common explanation, but you don't understand what it is for.

Said in a very very simplified way, katas are not the training of situations. If you want to do that go into Wing Tsun.

Katas are to train the body (and mind). It is to instinctively do whatever works best. Therefore one is prepared for ANY situation. That is Aikido.

I didn't mean to be insulting, but I am fed up with all the ignorance floating around martial arts.

[Gumbi1012]

I'm not saying I disagree with the attack, but I simply cannot see how this sort of defense will work.

I cannot see how you can take down 2 (potentially) bigger men in that way so easily

[FinalKenny2]

First you break the balance. Fairly easy, a thumb is never stronger than your arm+centered-energy(moving circular)

That is when he lifts his arm upwards.

Then he can do whatever he likes.

That implies that they hold on. Normally they do, because in Aikido you often use the reflex people have to protect their face. If they let go you simply give them a blow (or use more Aikido-like techniques).

This is actually katas that are used on one person at a time. He's doing the same thing just combined.

[Gumbi1012]

I'm not going to debate the point, but I would like to see this this technique being pressure tested in a more realistic situation.

[FinalKenny2]

What would be a more realistic situation?

The two people there are seriously holding on.

[Gumbi1012]

Lol, and they fall to the floor gracefully. Give me a break. Plus why are they even holding on? A multiple attack situation usually involves intimidation and/or pushing.

That's the whole point of more than one person. Sometimes one guy does nothing but provide his presence.

[FinalKenny2]

I said it before and I say it again. Since it doesn't seem to get into your head.

This is a KATA. NOT a situation.

They fall "gracefully" because we spend hours of training on ukemi, the art of falling. Why? Because otherwise we would break our spine at every second kata.

They hold on because of reflex. Most Aikido techniques involve insinuating that you want to punch them into the face/testicles. If they let go, that's that. If they DON'T you do you techniques, depending on how he reacts.

[FinalKenny2]

In Aikido you have absolute control over the situation because you blend into EVERY movement of the aggressor. And be it simply having the wrist stiff or dropping it.

Aikido is formless. You have a physical conversation with the other. You go with him.

And that is why we don't train situations, but katas.

If you still don't comprehend what that means I suggest you either go into the next dojo and try it out or simply admit that you have no idea what it is about and stop bitching about it.

[Gumbi1012]

I'm not bitching about it at all. I am critiquing the technique. If Aikido cannot be judged to be effective or not by LOOKING at it, then what point is therein posting a video about the technique at all, other than the fact that it looks fancy?

[FinalKenny2]

As reference for Aikidoka. And, sometimes, as demonstration for interested people.

You are not criticizing the technique. You are criticizing the kata.

Not to mention that you CAN see if it is effective. The motion itself obviously works. And that is all that it wants to show.

Even though some vacuum-heads out of McDojos may not be able to comprehend the difference between action and reaction.

[FinalKenny2]

As long as you look carefully and have a minimum awareness of your body you will be able to see or at least comprehend what is happening.

Aikido is an internal/inner art. Therefore not everyone can comprehend what is happening.

But if you look at the statements, the bitching always comes from non-martial artists or from people practicing a pseudo-McDojo-martial art.

Again, I suggest you visit a Aikido dojo and/or some wushu with inner systems, like wing tsun or taijiquan. Then you will learn.

[Raphinater]

@FinalKenny2 i train in brazilian jiu jitsu and i can tell you this is total crap

[Str0ngSide]

lmao. This is so un realistic...... The guy could not do that with ease if the guys are holding on really tight. If it was a two on one they wouldnt take his writs. They would jump him. Or take him to the ground and beat the living snot out of him. I grew up in the inner city. This would not work. Lol

[FinalKenny2]

Because this isn't a situation, it is a kata.

Do you know what a kata is? Didn't think so.

And the technique itself works perfectly fine, no matter how strong the opponent is. And that is all that is to be achieved here.

Of course the nage's are also Aikidoka, so they also follow the principle of following the flow. But also only so that they won't get injured.

"Growing up downtown" is not a valid argument when it comes to martial arts.

Sports, maybe, but not martial art.

[FinalKenny2]

Seen strictly it isn't for self defense. The philosophy is not to defend yourself than more control the aggressions.

[Riazonez]

some of thre comments posted here are terrible.. and sad.

my conclusion becomes..many martial artists are filthy mouthed inter net jocks with no respect whatsoever to the opinions of others

[Gumbi1012]

Agreed. Tbh they're just ignorant. They don't have in any way informed opinions

[riisimees]

are u acting, dancing or fighting? that looks not even close to fighting. aikido is martial art!

[Hervorragorn]

0:29 - 0:30

Dude pats him on the head! ha ha ha LOL

[Lacrimosum]

@Hervorragorn funny as hell :D ... i like that

[TheMightyHrc]

@Hervorragorn  hahahha :D

[bushin64]

Excellent video. Thank you for sharing

[deejin25]

The problem wit calling these "exercises in harmony" or ki development exercises is that you are harmonizing with situations that don't ever exist. aikido works best against uke who ae trained to present their ki in ways that humans beings don't present ki. Same as ki development. The ki of a human being grabbing you is not like this. They are grabbing with the intent of eventually allowing him to take them down, and they never adjust as humans would.

[shanethewolf]

"Two attackers"

Shouldn't that be "Two dancing partners"?

[Aikidostenudd]

I wouldn't mind.

[gerritpost]

I have a question to consider:

What is dancing?

It is controlled motion!

Aikido is controlled motion!

What if you where dancing and what would have happend if you had let go, on a critical moment?

She (your girl) would have gone flying across the room and fallen!

[solpapisolmook]

Should be, but aikidokas don't seem to be able to grasp the understanding of the fact that people don't attack in real life by just grabbing your wrist or arm and then standing there like an idiot so you can pull some flashy shit on them that wouldn't work unless they let you.

So it's "two attackers."

[FinalKenny2]

And I also ask you, do you know what a kata is?

Didn't think so.

[drdrvce]

Thank you for this performance. I needed to see Futari Dori perfomed not as a show but as execise of harmonious coordination. Thanks again!

[cantwait2look]

Thank you for posting this--you have forever changed the way i will approach the study of techniques on two attackers. Practice well.

[lugwid1984]

hey..¡ is very good aikido i like me too much..

[maceioninjutsu]

bullshit

[josh9568]

Aikido is about using the attackers' power against them and using momentom (sp?) also there is a lot of small joint manipulation going on

[Dashinto]

aikido lets the body follow, even with 95kg your body must follow the move.

[mountaindewadict]

in case you didn't realize in the first technique his is locking up their wrists and then switching his direction and putting his elbow in their faces. duh they are gonna freakin fall down

[Yakshinian]

No sir, they are going to move. People are not like puppets.

[yamimakaiz]

ok ok ok... the first 2 moves are impossible. attackers wouldn't act this way unless they would be from cartoons...

[obiwancanuck]

"Impossible is nothing." - Mohammed Ali

[yamimakaiz]

because mohammed ali said that, it's possible for me run at the speed of light. lol

[obiwancanuck]

Weeellll... some things are impossible for the time being. But I firmly believe anything's possible until proven impossible.

I may have started a whole other debate I didn't really mean to...

[yamimakaiz]

nah, i don't want to debate either lol :D

but seriously i mean look at how he takes them down, looks highly unrealistic. on the other hand my friend was learning aikido for few years and he says you can take people down in very unusual ways. eh nevermind i'll go watch other videos :)

[Aikidostenudd]

Well, that's a bit complicated to explain. Generally speaking, I lead them in the direction where they have the least resistance, which is in the direction of their intent (their line of attack).

[xKingSamoax]

ok is aikido good for a lager person?????

[Crvene0beretke]

yes

[irbb07]

not realy iam 6'5 260pounds i had people even women throw me around and arm lock 7rel times.

[Tibokio]

You almost can't see it. But they get out of balance. They could have gotten up again, if he wouldn't have given them a little 'push'. Then they fall.

[schmirgo]

First of all, i do like Aikido. But this is not "defending" vs two attackers how it would happen in real life. Basically both already have your hands. Why would they do that?

If i would want to attack someone i would basically kick him in the nuts/stab him with a fast motion from 50cm distance with a knife/get my buddy strangle him while i knee and elbow him. Then i grab his purse/mobile phone/etc and run.

Please note, i like Aikido but his video is no defense in a real life situation.

[paparas2000]

wow amazing

[solpapisolmook]

Can you please try this crap on someone who's trained, let say six months, in BJJ, Muay Thai, or Krav Maga and see what happens to you? We don't have to debate anything, we'll just see what happens to you.

I'm going to wager you'd get your face broken.

[orduni90]

man shut up! what is it with everybody and BJJ? like if its the best martial art there is, i bet you a fighting style like bjj wouldn't be too useful in a real fight!

[solpapisolmook]

1. Interesting how you didn't disagree that Krav Maga or Muay Thai would whip Aikido any day.

2. I find it highly comical that you, an Aikido queer, have the AUDACITY to tell me that BJJ "wouldn't be too useful in a streetfight."

That's hilarious, o yea who is a fan of the art of having your opponent stand there doing nothing while you try to apply your little techniques.

Because THAT works in a street fight.

"Now stand there for a second while I apply kotagaeshi, ok Mr. Mugger?"

[orduni90]

ok, asshole, just at least tell me how BJJ, a mostly ground fighting style, would be useful in a real street fight?

[solpapisolmook]

The majority of fights go to the ground at some point.

That being said, you better know how to fight when you hit the ground or you're dead. If you're lucky, you can even take it there yourself and end the fight as fast as possible.

Of course, I'm talking about a 1 on 1 fight. Don't go crazy now- there are hardly any arts that teach fighting with more than one person (that bullshit 5-man randori in Aikido is some of the most impractical shit I've ever seen in my life, so don't even start).

[solpapisolmook]

There is no "magical" art that can teach you to take on any street fight, but as I said before, your best bets are BJJ, Krav Maga, and Muay Thai. Your worst bets are Aikido and traditional Karate. They will get you killed.

You're just a delusional Aikido queer if you try to argue that point.

[orduni90]

so you are telling me that Aikido is completely useless?get the fuck outta here asshole!

[solpapisolmook]

I told you that days ago, you fucking fool.

Are you on crack? You're a fucking idiot.

[orduni90]

fuck you and fuck BJJ!! 2 me, the best martial art is Pencak Silat, and that's it!

[solpapisolmook]

Shut up already with your idiocy. Go somewhere else, you fucking child.

[orduni90]

why wont you just go and fuck ya mother! you fuckin faggot!

[solpapisolmook]

Well look at you, Mr. Eloquent Answer!

Why are you so mad at me?  I'm not the only one who has slammed the filthy whore in the ass. I was just the first. There was a HUGE line behind me.

She's gonna be a real mess tonight, you poor bastard!!

[orduni90]

your mother must be a real whore! damn!

[solpapisolmook]

Yes, your mother is a real whore!

Damn!

[orduni90]

your mother gives a mean blowjob, and at a good price too! she's not only a whore, but a generous one too! i betcha your cocksucking slob of a mother knows Aikido!lol!

[solpapisolmook]

No,no,no- what you're doing is called "projection" in classical psychology. You are deeply ashamed and hurt that the woman who birthed you is a filthy, skanky, disease-ridden creature of the night, so rather than face your insecurities and confront her about her behavior, you project these feelings onto others.

It's a perfectly natural, yet unhealthy coping mechanism. Don't feel so bad about it. Think of it this way; at least the filthy skank is getting pleasure out of all those cocks!

[orduni90]

who? your mother gets pleasure out of all the cocks?! u and ur mother are some sick freakin ppl!lol, and dont try 2 talk smart, you asshole! why wont you just go back to pimpin ur mother to all those BJJ friends of yours, eh? i mean what you're trying to sound like a doctor or some shit? a BJJ doctor?lol!!

[solpapisolmook]

P-R-O-J-E-C-T-I-O-N.

Look it up!

[Derukugi2]

I wonder how you come to this simple conclusion. I also wonder which Aikido and "traditional Karate" you mean. Being the expert that you seem to be, you surely know that both arts have many different styles.

[solpapisolmook]

Stop talking to me, you dumb cunt.

[Derukugi2]

Oh gee, what an eloquent answer. You will surely convince people that way, LOL.

[solpapisolmook]

Anyone who knows anything about martial arts knows Aikido is probably the worst in terms of self-defense. The only people who would argue that point are Aikidokas.

As far as convincing you- I don't give a shit what you think. You are a fucking little gnat and you can eat my ass as far as I'm concerned.

[Derukugi2]

Getting more eloquent by the minute. In case you didn´t notice, I was not trying to stoop down and argue with you, I simply asked you to explain your roundhouse statements.

Gee, that must difficult...

[solpapisolmook]

Actually, I explained them about five times.

Your primitive mind doesn't seem to be able to grasp the concepts I've laid out for you time and time again, so I've decided to stop wasting my time and insult your whorish mother instead.

[Z1mlock]

A flick of the wrist can't get a person off of your arms, especially if the person holding you is much stronger. the one at 1:00 looks pretty effective though.

[nasimonma]

bullshit

[Jeremey71]

I'm a traditional Okinawan martial artist and I appreciate the fluidity and calm displayed in your tecnhniques.

[ullja]

ajidi has got to ve they gayest martial art ever

[venais133]

u r gay

[Smygard101]

Whatg is BJJ then?

[Kewickviper]

you've got to be the gayest fuckface ever

[kisshomori]

for those who are in doubt of the arts of aikido, do your own arts, you are in doubt because you are bias with your arts and probably havent tried to attack an aikidoka.

for us aikidokas, we never critized other arts. aikido is for self defense, not for sport or competition(mma). as street effectiveness, we never fight thats why we win, we will only use aikido if someone will be committed on attacking. an attack is grabbing, punching, kicking and not critizising our arts and calling us names.

[cypsation]

thats a good philosophy, you should never fight. But honestly aikido is impracticle, people don't actually move like that when they attack you. There not gonna wait for you to perform your technique. That's just reality.

[biketouristpodcast]

Of course people don't move like that, the movements are designed so you can get the hook of the technique, like the Shotokan katas. They prepare your body to react, and if you practice hard an long enough, the defense movements will flow out naturally for that particular combat situation. Now, if a person just learn the technique and then spend the rest of the time watching UFC... What can I say!

[cypsation]

dude, i've been in traditional martial arts most of my life, as well as full contact sports like kickboxing, wrestling, and jiu-jits, if my experience on the street and in competition tell me anything, its that aikido will get you killed or beat down.

[biketouristpodcast]

Me too friend! I have been practicing Shotokan Karate since I was 10, and I am now in my late 40's. I studied Aikido briefly when I was in my 20's, and when I say briefly, I am talking about of less than a year (I was moving at the time and this was the closest martial arts School in town.). And in that little time the escense of Aikido stuck with me so much that it naturally integrated with my Shotokan skills to the point of doing them without even thinking. Works different for everybody!

[FelixNothus]

Maybe.

I have done karate, Wushu, and tai kwon do, and I have found that nearly all of them with the exception of Wushu has nothing on Aikido...

[orduni90]

what makes you say that? based on what in aikido that it will get u killed? because i dont think that kickboxing wrestling or jui-jitsu are really helpful on the street neither!

[FowlPrey12]

kicks may have helped

[jlaura26]

Buena Coordinacion y buen desplazamiento

[PappaRoger]

Im not arguing against the principles of Aiki, it is a wonderfull art. Having many years of study in Aikido, Jujitsu, Aiki Jutsu and many other arts, mixing and teaching them I have come to understand a few things at least.(or at least one would hope)!

It is not my intention to get into another bias debate on the superiority(?) of Aikido. I am only suggesting, from my own experience that, many other art's become street effective in much less time!

[Aikidostenudd]

It is my impression that most debaters claim the inferiority of aikido, not any superiority. Most of those who actually practice aikido are not interested in such a debate at all.

Maybe you should stick to examining your own martial art, instead?

[PappaRoger]

I don't have one particular art that I call my own or favor. I like to study a culmination of arts, breaking them down, letting one bleed into another, mixing principles and developing technique. One should be critical of what they practice to achieve perfection... and of others as part of understanding, Criticism should be given and appreciated in the same spirit as praise.

[Aikidostenudd]

So, do you?

[Dsoke1]

So, PappaRoger has many years training in aikido etc???. I dont think so, i am reliably informed that he was kicked out of an association for gross misconduct, says it all, the guy lives in a dream world were every one is wrong except him.

[josephdorrell]

Hehehe, double throws! You move beautifully.

In Aiki

[hsedan]

aikido is multitasking :)

[SNAKEgokuVERGIL]

aikido kick ass ... i love it ... but i don't know if it help me when someone attack me on street ...

[PappaRoger]

Aikido has nice principles but is not effective on the street untill your up in the Dan grades, It mostley relies on commited attackers who are stupid and wont let go or over telegraph thair attack..... Tru some Jujitsu or Mixed Arts!

[SNAKEgokuVERGIL]

is not efectiv on street ? hmm ... do as you thing but you're not right ! :P

[PappaRoger]

only to a level.... There are more effective art's about. Aiki is certainly not very effective against an intelligent fighter, trained or not. Principles of Aiki wont work on everyone!

Not being bias to any art.... have trained to a high level in many including Aikido. Every art has something to offer and its use however, Aikido is like using a sports car for an off road event... the territory is too rough. You wouldn't even consider it without a few modifications.

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[SNAKEgokuVERGIL]

aikido is self defence ... so i can't take down someone without his atack ... but if he don't attack ... then give him a punch ... kick him ... and he will atack with his full power ... then is it aikido time :P if you study aikido more than 10 years ... you know what you have to do. and oponent can be strong how much he want XD

[esradaisy]

indeed! l love aikido..it looks so beautiful and elegant...

[lordosaya]

absolutely beautifully done.