R12WAN1 - use bomb urselves up in the name of allah ? fair enough bomb urself up but dnt bomb innocent people while doing so ! go in the middle of a paddock and bomb ur way to allah ..
@DonCorleone454 are you asking who? ask those hundreds and thousands of people who have REVERTED to Islam go ask them the same question as u asked " najma187" those people will give you a long lost so long that you will not hack to hear any more, they will say so many good things that with shame you will out your head down!!
The state of Israel is a constant reminder to the world that the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is alive and that one billion Arabs can't keep them from possessing their promised land.
@jerrytatum then tht means God(GOD FORBID) is a creul biased unjust GOD who supports those who kill innocent poor palestinian man women children take away their home making their living condition worst then a prison spreadind mischive in the earth bcos of the power they hold. and wht is so amazing abt it jews who hold all the powers of the world in their hand if they torture and masacre poor palestinian
Biblically speaking, the land of Israel rightfully belongs to the Jews because God promised and gave the land to Abraham, the Father of the Jews, and renewed this promise or covenant to Abraham's son Isaac and to Isaac's son Jacob (later renamed Israel by God) who begat twelve sons from whom the twelve tribes of Israel was established as a nation as described in Genesis 12:1-3; 17:7,8 and 17:19-21
they are cursed by mouth of david and jesus and God they are prophet killers and for killing ppl is nothing for them but they will return to God after they die and their reward will be the hell for those monkeys and pigs even monekyes are better
this univers is belong to the muslim only...it will take only a time but at the end Islam will rule the whole world then destroy all the idols around the world...just wait as we're waiting too...jewish are the sickest people on earth...not all the jewish but the Zionist Antichris...Ramadan Karim to all the muslims...
world I need you to Wake up and smell the Jews what they doing? Israelis cancer been killing babies, children, women and old men. this been going for long time. And we all know when the Zionist Jews tried killing the prophet Jesus upon him Peace!! and have killed many prophets. these scums Israelis were evil before time, not today not last year, before Prophet Jesus burn. we all need to put hands together and get rid of this disease Israel, that's around us. Israel need to Dissolve !! Inshallah
Prophet Moses (peace be upon him) Didnot like this Jews people too that why He didnot allow this kafer to enter this promised land.Prophet Moses is the messenger this Jewis follow.How sad!!!very very sad!!poor Jewish on earth and after this earth.
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Yeah right to najma187. This video states that Israel wont let Palestinians pray at there mosque. Gee I wonder why, maybe because the last time they did, they stoned Jews praying at the Wailing Wall.
The world hates u jews. Dont worry nazis and muslim will exterminate the poulation to 0!!!! GO GET A LIFE U JEW! GO BOW UR UGLY HEAD TO HE WALL OF GAY
Randomwide, I apologize if I offended you, but I was stating a fact. Ali I will pray for you that God will take away the anger in your heart. God Bless
Yes I agree with you najma you are so right. but they wont have that chance to come back and fix their mistake. like you said its to late !!! but that's their choice. don't waste your time with these Ignorants. Allah O Akbar !!!
no wonder there is suicide bombers, no one one would take this shit from a jew back here in america, blow them up and send their big freeloading noses to kingdom come!!!!!!!!
Mujahid1, finally a Muslim who has seen the light. I never thought the day would come, were a Muslim would admit, that the Jewish, and Christian God=Jehovah's chosen people, were actually the chosen people. Praise God.
The Israelis are discriminating the Muslims from Praying at the Mosque..If anyone stopped the Jews from Praying at their worship place it would not be allowed..Thats not right...The muslims are checked out by security so why do they do this....
1 little religion this is a religion for 1 400 000 000 muslims all of them has established countriues and they did not need to hijack palestinian country to live there
Muslims raped and killed through all their "glory" history. And yes they have become strong and big and it is really to sad that their brutal tackticks are working. They live by the sword and the know how to use the sword (and nearly nothing else) and that's why they succeed to conquer and smash flwoering cultures and civilizations that thought more about higher things and war, plunder and rape.
go back to jewish history and see some books about jews in muslim lands,jews never picked to stay in jerusalem,although they could,they mainly lived in Baghdad,and the time muslims were kicked of spain there were 800 000 jews with them.they lived in morocco and were considered with equal rights.
again you are wrong,jews prefered to live in baghdad,because it was the capital of muslim land,jews were equal to muslims,they established very well there,they liked the buisness,few lived in jerusalem,sounds you are not working on refrencies,only you talk
please, study a bit of history. Jews where in babylon since the 6th century BCE, that means more than 1000 years before mohammed came up with his religion and long before arabs ruled there. Check wikipedia jewish history and then come back and talk...
haha brother, your pulling information from wikipedia? come on now, its open to anybody to type any bias information they want...and NASERG is right, when the chrisitans re-took spain, they were slaughtering Jews left and right to worship their Fabricated religion, and the Yahoods ran to the muslim countries for protection
it did not say i have i from wikipedia but that he should check it there, because its easily reachable and not that biased (try to change something, it's not that easy). anyway there were jews more than thousand years in babylon before mohammend was even born and jews suffered greatly under the arrogant muslim rule all over the world also in spain. (many jews then really tried to go to marokko for example and were hunted again by muslims - check the story of the famous rambam.
I know they were alive before prophet muhammad (pbuh), the jews tried to kill the prophet numerous times, and iv never heard to muslims ever persecuting Jews under the Caliphate.......if the oppression of the Jews started after Ali ibn Abi Talib's death, than your probably right, most of the ruler's became corrupt after the first 4 Caliphs
why start so late already mohammed started to pursue them and murder them just because he went crazy that they were not ready to buy his arabic twisted judaism mix.
wow..thats a big claim criticizing the fastest growing religion in history of humanity, and will be the largest religion in future...i know you have no facts for this, but ill ask anyway my confused friend:)....WHERES YOUR EVIDENCE, FACTS, PROOF?
the greatness of a religion or people is not measured by their numbers or how fast they grow. Just open your eyes. Read the Tanach (hebrew bible) and then read the koran and you see that their was a good intention to bring monotheism also to the arab tribes, but greatly misunderstanding the basic values and the result is: a religion that has not produced anything helpful for humanity, but just wars, rape and murder throught the ages since its foundation.
wow, quit getting your facts from CNN or foxnewss..the are the religion that created Astronomy, algebra, the first water purification system, the first plumbing system, the original hospital was established by the muslims in 872 CE, the prophet (pbuh) made the original toothbrush and cologne, there is numerous contributions this wonderful way of god has made to humanity..while the chrisitans were busy praying to dead bodies during the plague, the muslims were sculpting YOUR FUTURE...so ignorant
why start so late already mohammed started to pursue them and murder them just because he went crazy that they were not ready to buy his arabic twisted judaism mix.
why start so late? already mohammed and ali started to pursue jews and murder them, enslave them, rape their women just because he went crazy that they were not ready to buy his twisted arabic judaism mix.
"Hiijack"? Who hiijacked it from us? Muslims kill enough people of other religions EVERY DAY that no Jew or christian or buddihst or hinduist or toaist etc. could reach such numbers
again you are wrong,go to numbers and facts,american killed 20 000 000 red indian or even more
wwI and wwII caused deaths of over than 20 000000 in vietnam,sudan,iraq.... even jews killed from palestinian more than what have killed in all muslims wars,you must be scientifically adequate
thanx for your worries about moslems i doubt that is the case in palestine,where things are more clear,we see the tanks shilling civilians there,as well as planes shelling innocents and kids
yeah, right. where do you live? I live here, come and watch! Planes attack people who shoot rockets at us and not stones. and civilians are NEVER the TARGET of our army, bur the MAIN TARGET of your terrorists. get some porportions.
yes, muslims conquered also spain by the sword (but never all of spain), and yes, thanks to the jews, they even succeeded in establishing some culture there (what does not mean that the jews were treated well, just some dhimmis, right.), until the christians beat them back (and also behaved badly to the jews)
yes you are right they made a good participation there in spain,as i said before they were living amongst the muslims,as well they went together with muslims attacking spain with sward,800 000 jews were kicked out with the muslims and lived in morocco in muslims lands
the same thew israeli police as scattered to stop palestinians from praying in aqsa mosque ,is the same as you see saudi police trying to stop prayers in vatican from going to church.
you must admit the you doing the worst thing to humiliate palestinians,but your efforts are in vain
no it is as saudi police would stop christians from going to mekka. ooooops, christians and ALL non-muslims are forbidden there. Sorry, forgot that little detail. You know what: Muslims everyday pray on the jewish temple mount and for jews it's forbidden to go there. it's like it would be forbidden for moslems to go to mekka. nice, ha?
why do not you first think,before speaking,why do you go again on the same things.if saudi forbid christians from entering because since the year 1100 ,crusaders tried to enter and attack the prophets (pbuh) tomb,plus they are practising a lawfull right for a sovrign state
crusaders never tried to enter mekka, since they just don't care for islam, they just wanted to protect their christian sites in israel and their pilgrims, since moslems attacked pilgrims and destroyed christian sites.
true these pictures were taken 6-7 km from aqsa mosque,do not you know that ka3ba in mecca is around 1500 kms away from jerusalem ,and you see pple going to mecca.the importance of aqsa mosque to muslims equals that of mecca,even more now because aqsa mosque is under occupation
you should be careful that not some pious muslims kill you for talking bad about the kaba. Please tell me you are kidding when saying the the little al-aksa has the same importance than mekka?? hahahahaha
1. You know what, IT IS FORBIDDEN FOR JEWS(!!!) TO ENTER THE TEMPLE MOUNT! Muslims can pray there whenever they want, except for some days, where it is to dangerous to let younger (more terror like) muslims on it.
2. You see this aggressive Arabs! There is a usual army or police checkpoint and they start to beat the police. What do they expect? Can you beat a police man anywhere else without consequences?
sir,you that the zionist movement depends on some pple like you to say the temple mountain,because if you did not say so there is no case for zionism
you must know that zionist movement is a political one,thats why you see almost 9o%of the imported jews do not know any thing about religion,sinners,many pork eaters,may be to christian this is normal, but you must admit that the police was in all the area jerusalem between arab houses just to show racism and humiliate palestinians
all religion is opium for the peolple
mikimaki55 9 months ago
watch the videos:
I hate Israel - Racism
I hate Israel - Zionism
I hate Israel - Gaza Blockade
I hate Israel - Right of Return
I hate Israel - the UN
for some facts
firstonethrough 10 months ago
R12WAN1 - use bomb urselves up in the name of allah ? fair enough bomb urself up but dnt bomb innocent people while doing so ! go in the middle of a paddock and bomb ur way to allah ..
DonCorleone454 1 year ago
najma187 - who the fuck wants to be muslim you tell me
DonCorleone454 1 year ago
@DonCorleone454 are you asking who? ask those hundreds and thousands of people who have REVERTED to Islam go ask them the same question as u asked " najma187" those people will give you a long lost so long that you will not hack to hear any more, they will say so many good things that with shame you will out your head down!!
R12WAN1 1 year ago
@R12WAN1 list**
R12WAN1 1 year ago
@DonCorleone454 Just wait and see my friend :)
NiyyatAlinsan 11 months ago
@NiyyatAlinsan y wud i want to wait and see ewwww
DonCorleone454 11 months ago
A sad sight. The prophet Moses didn't save them from cruelty to become cruel themselves..
dusxxxt 1 year ago
The state of Israel is a constant reminder to the world that the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is alive and that one billion Arabs can't keep them from possessing their promised land.
jerrytatum 1 year ago
@jerrytatum then tht means God(GOD FORBID) is a creul biased unjust GOD who supports those who kill innocent poor palestinian man women children take away their home making their living condition worst then a prison spreadind mischive in the earth bcos of the power they hold. and wht is so amazing abt it jews who hold all the powers of the world in their hand if they torture and masacre poor palestinian
peace12000 1 year ago
Biblically speaking, the land of Israel rightfully belongs to the Jews because God promised and gave the land to Abraham, the Father of the Jews, and renewed this promise or covenant to Abraham's son Isaac and to Isaac's son Jacob (later renamed Israel by God) who begat twelve sons from whom the twelve tribes of Israel was established as a nation as described in Genesis 12:1-3; 17:7,8 and 17:19-21
jerrytatum 1 year ago
@jerrytatum
the bible has been altered by pharisees
suavelyphe 1 year ago
the day will come when all jews will be burn in hell.
ashnaldo 1 year ago
@ashnaldo oh that is just cruel man when the jews have suffered thousands of years of torment
ARKSOLDIER7 1 year ago
Wow that was close, you could tell the muslims were seconds away from detonating.
From10000bc 2 years ago
@From10000bc lol
they often do
yosi1653 2 years ago
they are cursed by mouth of david and jesus and God they are prophet killers and for killing ppl is nothing for them but they will return to God after they die and their reward will be the hell for those monkeys and pigs even monekyes are better
gjeologjia 2 years ago
fuck the islam with all the muslims.
sexyamante 2 years ago
You can Shove your Mohammed up your Ass-We don't need your Islam!!!
Rheaume100 2 years ago
this univers is belong to the muslim only...it will take only a time but at the end Islam will rule the whole world then destroy all the idols around the world...just wait as we're waiting too...jewish are the sickest people on earth...not all the jewish but the Zionist Antichris...Ramadan Karim to all the muslims...
Abdulmanan15 2 years ago
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sadiyazaheer 2 years ago
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kill all arabs
donearl65 2 years ago
world I need you to Wake up and smell the Jews what they doing? Israelis cancer been killing babies, children, women and old men. this been going for long time. And we all know when the Zionist Jews tried killing the prophet Jesus upon him Peace!! and have killed many prophets. these scums Israelis were evil before time, not today not last year, before Prophet Jesus burn. we all need to put hands together and get rid of this disease Israel, that's around us. Israel need to Dissolve !! Inshallah
mnr6573 3 years ago 3
Prophet Moses (peace be upon him) Didnot like this Jews people too that why He didnot allow this kafer to enter this promised land.Prophet Moses is the messenger this Jewis follow.How sad!!!very very sad!!poor Jewish on earth and after this earth.
climaxmovie 2 years ago
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Yeah right to najma187. This video states that Israel wont let Palestinians pray at there mosque. Gee I wonder why, maybe because the last time they did, they stoned Jews praying at the Wailing Wall.
mthw25 3 years ago
The world hates u jews. Dont worry nazis and muslim will exterminate the poulation to 0!!!! GO GET A LIFE U JEW! GO BOW UR UGLY HEAD TO HE WALL OF GAY
randomwide 2 years ago 3
Randomwide, I apologize if I offended you, but I was stating a fact. Ali I will pray for you that God will take away the anger in your heart. God Bless
mthw25 2 years ago
really dude nazis hate muslims way more than jews
yadrummer11 2 years ago
one day all the none-muslims would wish to be muslims and ask their lord to return them on earth,but too little too late
najma187 3 years ago 13
Yes I agree with you najma you are so right. but they wont have that chance to come back and fix their mistake. like you said its to late !!! but that's their choice. don't waste your time with these Ignorants. Allah O Akbar !!!
mnr6573 3 years ago 2
no wonder there is suicide bombers, no one one would take this shit from a jew back here in america, blow them up and send their big freeloading noses to kingdom come!!!!!!!!
Y0utube2oo8 3 years ago
After all they are "God's Chosen People" they should yearn to depart from this life.
Mujahid1 3 years ago
Mujahid1, finally a Muslim who has seen the light. I never thought the day would come, were a Muslim would admit, that the Jewish, and Christian God=Jehovah's chosen people, were actually the chosen people. Praise God.
mthw25 3 years ago
terriable izlam try to do some thing.
teach4right 3 years ago
labayke ya hamas
labyke ya hezbollah
labyke ya iran
iran1976 3 years ago
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why dont they just blow up the damn mosque?
oratorspeaker 3 years ago
Cursed are the jews! Soon they will be rewarded for what they have been doing. May THEY BURN TO HELLFIRE!!!!
FREE PALESTINE!
irenalb 3 years ago 9
@irenalb The Holocaust never ended but the victims have decided to defend themselves..."
jerrytatum 1 year ago
The Israelis are discriminating the Muslims from Praying at the Mosque..If anyone stopped the Jews from Praying at their worship place it would not be allowed..Thats not right...The muslims are checked out by security so why do they do this....
IslamSister28 4 years ago
the muslim has a bomb on him just like bin laden
Gruff11 4 years ago
Al-aksa=3 reih
korg2329 4 years ago
the Israel they are too MUCH!!!
ANTI Israel !!!
98705781 4 years ago
May Allah protect and bless all my brothers and sisters in religion! We all knw they'll be burnt in hell!!!!
dwi14 4 years ago
not admitting ;) the temple mount was long before your strange little religion was thought out by the rapist and murder mohammed
nebo3003 4 years ago
1 little religion this is a religion for 1 400 000 000 muslims all of them has established countriues and they did not need to hijack palestinian country to live there
is that what you mean by strange little religion
at least muslims never did kill a prophet
naserq 4 years ago
Muslims raped and killed through all their "glory" history. And yes they have become strong and big and it is really to sad that their brutal tackticks are working. They live by the sword and the know how to use the sword (and nearly nothing else) and that's why they succeed to conquer and smash flwoering cultures and civilizations that thought more about higher things and war, plunder and rape.
nebo3003 4 years ago
nebo
this is not true
go back to jewish history and see some books about jews in muslim lands,jews never picked to stay in jerusalem,although they could,they mainly lived in Baghdad,and the time muslims were kicked of spain there were 800 000 jews with them.they lived in morocco and were considered with equal rights.
if you want refrencies for that i m ready
naserq 4 years ago
jews lived in jerusalem whenever they could. jews had never EQUAL rights to moslems in moslems countries in the middle ages.
nebo3003 4 years ago
again you are wrong,jews prefered to live in baghdad,because it was the capital of muslim land,jews were equal to muslims,they established very well there,they liked the buisness,few lived in jerusalem,sounds you are not working on refrencies,only you talk
naserq 4 years ago
please, study a bit of history. Jews where in babylon since the 6th century BCE, that means more than 1000 years before mohammed came up with his religion and long before arabs ruled there. Check wikipedia jewish history and then come back and talk...
nebo3003 4 years ago
haha brother, your pulling information from wikipedia? come on now, its open to anybody to type any bias information they want...and NASERG is right, when the chrisitans re-took spain, they were slaughtering Jews left and right to worship their Fabricated religion, and the Yahoods ran to the muslim countries for protection
almostafa786 4 years ago
it did not say i have i from wikipedia but that he should check it there, because its easily reachable and not that biased (try to change something, it's not that easy). anyway there were jews more than thousand years in babylon before mohammend was even born and jews suffered greatly under the arrogant muslim rule all over the world also in spain. (many jews then really tried to go to marokko for example and were hunted again by muslims - check the story of the famous rambam.
nebo3003 4 years ago
I know they were alive before prophet muhammad (pbuh), the jews tried to kill the prophet numerous times, and iv never heard to muslims ever persecuting Jews under the Caliphate.......if the oppression of the Jews started after Ali ibn Abi Talib's death, than your probably right, most of the ruler's became corrupt after the first 4 Caliphs
almostafa786 4 years ago
why start so late already mohammed started to pursue them and murder them just because he went crazy that they were not ready to buy his arabic twisted judaism mix.
nebo3003 4 years ago
wow..thats a big claim criticizing the fastest growing religion in history of humanity, and will be the largest religion in future...i know you have no facts for this, but ill ask anyway my confused friend:)....WHERES YOUR EVIDENCE, FACTS, PROOF?
almostafa786 4 years ago
the greatness of a religion or people is not measured by their numbers or how fast they grow. Just open your eyes. Read the Tanach (hebrew bible) and then read the koran and you see that their was a good intention to bring monotheism also to the arab tribes, but greatly misunderstanding the basic values and the result is: a religion that has not produced anything helpful for humanity, but just wars, rape and murder throught the ages since its foundation.
nebo3003 4 years ago
wow, quit getting your facts from CNN or foxnewss..the are the religion that created Astronomy, algebra, the first water purification system, the first plumbing system, the original hospital was established by the muslims in 872 CE, the prophet (pbuh) made the original toothbrush and cologne, there is numerous contributions this wonderful way of god has made to humanity..while the chrisitans were busy praying to dead bodies during the plague, the muslims were sculpting YOUR FUTURE...so ignorant
almostafa786 4 years ago 4
why start so late already mohammed started to pursue them and murder them just because he went crazy that they were not ready to buy his arabic twisted judaism mix.
nebo3003 4 years ago
why start so late? already mohammed and ali started to pursue jews and murder them, enslave them, rape their women just because he went crazy that they were not ready to buy his twisted arabic judaism mix.
nebo3003 4 years ago
"Hiijack"? Who hiijacked it from us? Muslims kill enough people of other religions EVERY DAY that no Jew or christian or buddihst or hinduist or toaist etc. could reach such numbers
nebo3003 4 years ago
nebo
again you are wrong,go to numbers and facts,american killed 20 000 000 red indian or even more
wwI and wwII caused deaths of over than 20 000000 in vietnam,sudan,iraq.... even jews killed from palestinian more than what have killed in all muslims wars,you must be scientifically adequate
naserq 4 years ago
give me a brakes. moslems killed far more moslems than any jew or christian.
nebo3003 4 years ago
where u get that fact plss... u totally lost da point of da video!
dwi14 4 years ago
nebo
thanx for your worries about moslems i doubt that is the case in palestine,where things are more clear,we see the tanks shilling civilians there,as well as planes shelling innocents and kids
naserq 4 years ago
yeah, right. where do you live? I live here, come and watch! Planes attack people who shoot rockets at us and not stones. and civilians are NEVER the TARGET of our army, bur the MAIN TARGET of your terrorists. get some porportions.
nebo3003 4 years ago
nebo
there are recent series about arab in spain look at it
then you might be more decent
times of arab glory europe was in dark ages,go and try to do some home work
naserq 4 years ago
yes, muslims conquered also spain by the sword (but never all of spain), and yes, thanks to the jews, they even succeeded in establishing some culture there (what does not mean that the jews were treated well, just some dhimmis, right.), until the christians beat them back (and also behaved badly to the jews)
nebo3003 4 years ago
yes you are right they made a good participation there in spain,as i said before they were living amongst the muslims,as well they went together with muslims attacking spain with sward,800 000 jews were kicked out with the muslims and lived in morocco in muslims lands
naserq 4 years ago
to nebo 3003
the case is so
the same thew israeli police as scattered to stop palestinians from praying in aqsa mosque ,is the same as you see saudi police trying to stop prayers in vatican from going to church.
you must admit the you doing the worst thing to humiliate palestinians,but your efforts are in vain
naserq 4 years ago
no it is as saudi police would stop christians from going to mekka. ooooops, christians and ALL non-muslims are forbidden there. Sorry, forgot that little detail. You know what: Muslims everyday pray on the jewish temple mount and for jews it's forbidden to go there. it's like it would be forbidden for moslems to go to mekka. nice, ha?
nebo3003 4 years ago
nebo
why do not you first think,before speaking,why do you go again on the same things.if saudi forbid christians from entering because since the year 1100 ,crusaders tried to enter and attack the prophets (pbuh) tomb,plus they are practising a lawfull right for a sovrign state
naserq 4 years ago
crusaders never tried to enter mekka, since they just don't care for islam, they just wanted to protect their christian sites in israel and their pilgrims, since moslems attacked pilgrims and destroyed christian sites.
nebo3003 4 years ago
these pictures were taken kilometers away from the temple mount and there is no idication that there is a connection at all
nebo3003 4 years ago
true these pictures were taken 6-7 km from aqsa mosque,do not you know that ka3ba in mecca is around 1500 kms away from jerusalem ,and you see pple going to mecca.the importance of aqsa mosque to muslims equals that of mecca,even more now because aqsa mosque is under occupation
naserq 4 years ago
you should be careful that not some pious muslims kill you for talking bad about the kaba. Please tell me you are kidding when saying the the little al-aksa has the same importance than mekka?? hahahahaha
nebo3003 4 years ago
1. You know what, IT IS FORBIDDEN FOR JEWS(!!!) TO ENTER THE TEMPLE MOUNT! Muslims can pray there whenever they want, except for some days, where it is to dangerous to let younger (more terror like) muslims on it.
2. You see this aggressive Arabs! There is a usual army or police checkpoint and they start to beat the police. What do they expect? Can you beat a police man anywhere else without consequences?
nebo3003 4 years ago
sir,you that the zionist movement depends on some pple like you to say the temple mountain,because if you did not say so there is no case for zionism
you must know that zionist movement is a political one,thats why you see almost 9o%of the imported jews do not know any thing about religion,sinners,many pork eaters,may be to christian this is normal, but you must admit that the police was in all the area jerusalem between arab houses just to show racism and humiliate palestinians
naserq 4 years ago