@MadMuddyZuk its becuse u can buy a defender for 1000 dollar race and trow it away. but u cant do that to a hummer. thats why, its not affordable , and + u need to corect your facts, there are hummers on dakar rally
if u think defender is better show us a video that is better, all we see now is one pussy rover.
amazing, all you have proved is that simply having a different tires and air pressure can improve your climbing ability. i wouldn't be able to make it up that hill with interco thornbirds running 35psi but get a set of bfg krawlers and run them around 8psi and that hill would be a cake walk
I love trucks in general and I think both of these vehicles are great in their own way, but I got to say that LR driver is an idiot. I could have done that in my jeep with stock tires
This comparo is totally ridiculous. Victory here can be boiled down to SWB vs LWB. IMO Hummers are totally impractical - they're too thirsty and too heavy, and not many 'real' wheelers took up on them. It was the rich and trendies with deep pockets who thought that owning army surplus would make up for limited off-roading skills.
But in the real world, a Defender or Landcruiser is the only offroaders choice.
@Jony80031 Your the stupidest person i have ever seen how would a land rover even be a competiton for any hummer and why does everyone on the earth say the hummer is the best 4x4. Think about it!
@HaloCOD816 Because they're all fucking stupid yanks who think that simply being big, loud and fucking annoying makes you the best of something. Landrovers shit all over hummers in nearly every fucking way. i don't doubt that hummers outclass landrovers in some areas. like being a car for stupid fucking pig headed americans. I've seen landrovers pulling your piece of shit hummers out of little fucking puddles, then those same landrovers drive up fucking rivers. Go fuck yourself
@JinxanatorF22 It sounds like some American rubbed you the wrong way you Aussie twat. I find it funny that you have the name of an American jet in your un. Is the Raptor "big, loud and fucking annoying" as well? Neither could possibly be half as annoying as that douchey sounding Australian accent. Go choke on a kangaroo cock you queer.
Not exactly. I just find people who simply use the fact that the hummer is american to say that its superior. and yeah, i can appreciate the irony in that. as for the last bit ill pass if you don't mind.
Definitely staged video this one, i've seen Defender 90s climb far more difficult terrain than this, yep i've got to ring the bullshit bell on this one.
Just a difference in wheelbase, I've seen it a hundred times. A longer wheelbase was better for that obstacle. Find one where you need a really good break-over and it could be a different story.
This video is fake.The landrover is more capable than that. And as for all u hummer haters I will admit the h2 and h3 suck but a real h1 has many standard options. And although a good one will set u back quite a bit. How can u say that a vehicle which is bullitproof, can cruise through a meter of water, has a reinforced undercarrige, can climb more than a 60 degree incline, and can drive over a 2 meter wide trench, is worse than a land rover or range rover
@andrewbradley130 Nah, I'd just say as an American myself that this video may be the ONLY off road instance in which a hummer is actually useful. they are so heavy that they cannot do ANYTHING else. ;-)
@andrewbradley130 seems more like someone trying to show that everyone calling hummers shit and showing Land Rovers against H2's and not the REAL Hummer the H1.
Something really amiss with the LR. Notice the lack of axle articulation? Looks like he has *improved*it by fitting spring that are far to stiff. No wonder it was shit.
hummer has a much longer wheel base and with the extra body weight that thing is carrying plus it had much bigger off road tyres that had less pressure then the LR thats why it hugged the stones nicer than the LR,
IN GENERAL THE LR WOULD RUN RINGS AROUND THAT HOUSE THEY CALL A 4X4 NOT TO MENTION HAVING THE BEST 4 WHEEL DRIVE SYSTEM IN THE WORLD (CHALLENGE MY STATEMENT IF YOU DARE) LANDROVER RULES EVERY TIME !!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's not about the differtials. The 50 year old car wasn't STRONG enough to climb, the 10 year old car climbed. Thats all.
Land Rovers from 2000s have 3.9L 182 hp (136 kW) V8 engines and can go places that TWICE as priced H1 with his twice as strong engine (6.5L V8) will never see.
@izmisljenoimezausa It wasn't a power issue. Or an age issue. LWB vehicles are better at climbing, SWB vehicles are better at almost everything else. The tyres on the Defender weren't aired down either, and it was being driven by a numpty who showed no finesse.
This vid is a fanboi Hummer advert. Look at his other vids - Hummer fanboi. He deliberately did everything he could to make the D90 look bad. I could just as easily "prove" a Hummer is crap by playing to it's weaknesses too!
@Amosvandam too bad the h1 is a diesel and its fuel economy is similar to other trucks its size and i know that d90 sucks on gas my jeep cj5 sucks on gas too all 4x4 do get over it
@Webcollege The Hummer is a LWB vehicle. An EXTREMELY LWB vehicle. LWB vehicles climb better than SWB vehicles - especially ones with lifts and bigger tyres. It's all about COG and weight distribution.
This vid is massively misleading because it takes a LWB vehicle and "proves" it's better than a D90 by playing to it's strengths and the D90's weaknesses. It's *DELIBERATELY* misleading.
For a start, a stock D90 would climb better than that. Lower COG. A D130 better still. This vid is BS.
as long as your obstacle is wide enough the hummer will fair well,get in to some tight terrain and it's useless, freeway it's great,desert it's great,wide rock face it's great,real world trail work.............useless
You can't prove anything with a video. Anyone can fake up a video. Because any video could be fake means that they don't prove anything. The same goes for pictures.
Ya ya, I watched ?v=c4JpKt2zUfo. Only way to really tell anything is to drive them yourself. Too many variables that can influence the outcome when other people drive them and you are just watching. Like I said before youtube doesn't prove anything one way or the other as to which may be better.
@srvnet While that's true (and who knows what mods have been made to the two vehicles) it doesn't change my point, which is that you can make a youtube video that "proves" any vehicle is better than any other.
From the right angle, I can create a photograph that "proves" a strawberry is bigger than a mellon. And I could make a video that "proves" a D90 is better than a H1 (if I had a H1) just as easily. And both would be as misleading as this vid.
All you people. Don't you know that the other guy always has the best. Don't matter what you have the other person thinks his is better. Even if it really isn't. Doesn't matter what is shown or said here. Youtube doesn't prove anyting.
@srvnet My SJ413 *IS* better though. It really is! It flies! It does the washing up! It predicts the future! One day it will kill Justin Bieber! Twice!
@dillbertlee Don't they, though? Freakin' awesome little machines. Real live axles, decent articulation, insanely light engines that allow them to go crazy angles without tipping over... Everything a decent 4x4 should have, in a pocket sized package.
@dillbertlee The only vehicles that get through obstacles I can't are ones with twin lockers (usually D90's over here). Hilux, Pajero, Land Cruiser, Patrol, Cherokee, Range Rover, Discovery - I've out-4x4'd 'em all, and in an SJ that cost me less than their tyres cost them.
I want a 1.6 with bike carbs and a set of front and rear lockrights - then even the V8 twin ARB'd D90's would have to phear me! Mwahahahahaaaa!
Smiles per pound/dollar, nothing comes *close* to an SJ. Get another!
It is ovious and fucken cheating the landrover had hard rock tyres and that is what made her bounce and the hummer had the tyres like a coushion so it had more grip if your are going to a challange do it fucken right
For all you armchair experts out there, watch this video:
watch?v=c4JpKt2zUfo
The discovery and the defender in that vid have very similar (almost identical) mechanicals, but the discovery has a longer wheelbase. It gets stuck when the defender 90 sails through.
The Hummer is much longer wheelbase than either of those vehicles - in those same conditions, it would have gotten even more stuck than the Discovery, making the D90 "better". It's horses for courses.
@MrEarthmover I wonder if there's any way of finding out where that was shot, and sending someone in a Defender 130 down there to show all these armchair experts what you mean...?
Eh, D90 isn't the best of the Land Rovers for this, but sure you get a better one it could climb is no problem, but all in all the Hummer H1 is the better choice for negotiating any kind of rough terrain
@HellBarrageKhaini Which is why the Paris-Dakar is full of Hummers, right? Oh, wait, no, it's full of D90, D110, D130 and RR based Tomcats and Bowlers.
The H1 is *not* better at negotiating *any* kind of rough terrain. If you were something other than just another armchair expert, you'd know why.
@19bengates92 No, it doesn't. If you can't tell why this video is a biased hummer advert by a fanboi, then you're an armchair expert. I could easily make a video that "proves" my Suzuki SJ or one of my mate's D90's is "better" than a Hummer, but anyone who actually knows 4x4'ing would't be fooled. Only armchair experts fall for this crap.
The Hummer is a good vehicle, but it's not "better" than a D90 - they have opposing strengths and weaknesses. You can't compare them directly.
ok im a hummer guy, but i have to say wtf to that one. First of all the defenders tire pressure must have been maxed out , Second it looked like he had no clue of what he was doing.
@LJinALASKA You know what? You probably actually own a Hummer (or some kind of half-decent 4x4, at least) too. Unlike most of the armchair experts on here.
I own neither. I'm a fanboi of neither. I own a Suzuki SJ413 - which goes just about anywhere on mere 31x10.5/15's. Well, almost anywhere - search youtube for 9AsPBomx10w - sorry about Jack's language...
It's a shame we can't limit comments to people who actually own:
@nilbud Yet they'll pull anything you put in front of it, and climb any hill you drive it up. But what has little Ireland created? ......Go ahead, i'll wait.
@IchiDeux Yes, *you* were OWNED. If you can't tell why this is a setup, you don't know anything about 4x4ing, and have proven yourself to be an armchair expert.
Clues: lwb v swb, tyre pressure, approach angles...
I could easily make a vid (if I had access to a Hummer) that "proves" the D90 is superior to a Hummer. And it'd be just as misleading, and only armchair experts would be fooled by it.
All of the videos that I saw of his were of Hummers, I don' think that he really wanted the Rover to make it up. I would have passed him half way up in a Rover. hahahaha
had a look at his account.. all his upload are for hammer. i came to conclusion this guy is a LR hater and this video was set up to make hammer look good. this is a fake.
Look at the tires on the LR, then look at the tires on the H1. Tell me who has a better chance of getting out of ANYWHERE that might be slick or rocky. It's hard to see on the video, but the owner of the LR should be ashamed to have the machine at such a disadvantage.
The Defenders, Some of the Jeep Wranglers, The Toyota J90's and the H1 are excellent off road vehicles stock. I think this challenge better suits the H1 & that the Defenders tires were in poor shape.
This Land Rover is a short wheel base, the Hummer is much longer, not to mention with MUCH bigger tyres. The Hummer has no roof, along with being longer, its centre of gravity is much lower making it climb better.
The Land Rover is a lot taller making it unstable, along with smaller wheels and a higher centre of gravity.
hummer widely developed, lightweight and with an absurd power and turbines, see the leaves moving in step, (!!) against a misguided defender, ON ANOTHER FU*K*NG ROUTE, with tires almost to throw. great difference, yes.
i like the video but when do we get to see the petrol truck follow that hummer up there. h1 look cool but i here landrover wolfs have to pull the things out of the sand cuz thay way so much and you need a degree from a english uni to fix it where as i fixst my landy with a hammer and some duck tape i dont see meny garages in the wild and just so you know some of the h1 parts come from uk somerest i know that because i live there.
@dariohum123 Of course it did. You're pitting a LWB vehicle (Hummer) against a SWB vehicle (Defender 90) in a test (climbing) that MASSIVELY favours the LWB vehicle. Strange that the LWB vehicle wins, eh?
Now get both vehicles to try cresting a sharp angle at the top, and watch the Defender sail over it while the Hummer grounds out. Or try pitting a Defender 130 with ARB's and 10ish PSI 33x13.5x16's against the Hummer and watch it crawl up there with the same ease.
@dariohum123 they're absolute shite, i know someone who had one but sold it for a second hand range rover. he said it was poorly built and it felt cheap. the interior is like a giant wheely bin! and they're really under powered for the size of the engine it had.
@19jacobob93 well my friends uncle has a h2 and they are awesome !! they certainley do not feel cheap, but he doesn't uses it for in the city and stuf like that, only offroading they go one everything thats possible
Lets stop for a second... Hummers are shit, they are called H2 and H3 but the H1 is one of the best off roading vehicles out there. The PSI in the Land rover is the same as the H1's except the H1 is a 5 ton truck.
this video makes land rovers look shit , well if you think this your fuking mistaken , shit head tires and a shit head driver , id love to vs that hummer in my defender. just saying....
to be fair, you cant compare these 2 cars. the hummers engine is twice the size, its wheels are twice the size and it weighs 3 times as much! but i reckon if you put the same tyres on the defender it would smash it up there. im sorry but hummers are pure shite!
@19jacobob93 No the H1 is a very good vehicle, it is the H2 that is pure shite! The H1 is the original Hummer vehicle but unfortunately it is no longer offered to the civilian market, they only offer the fat crappy H2.
@19jacobob93 Well it's the American market. I was born in the USA & I can confirm that teh majority of Americans like Cheap, big & fat. They also buy according to brand rarely looking deeper into the components & attributes that determine actual quality. This makes it easy for an auto manufacturer to swap an expensive to produce offering like H1 that has real capability & durability for a fat capped pickup truck like the H2 that costs much much less to produce.
@19jacobob93 Just weld on allot of metal around a pickup truck frame, give it a nice paint job & some wheels, put some cushy leather inside & wallah... Cheap, fat, stupid vehicle for the cheap, fat, American public... The H1 as it should of been made available is a bit too spartan for the price range it competes in. Americans like cushy, smooth & sweet. Most people who really want an off road vehicle modify a jeep. There are surprisingly few other options in the USA.
@19jacobob93 Americans are obsessed with fat, stout lines and like FAT tires. Offroading for Americans is trying to get over and between rocks for a mile or two and then going back home in time for Monday work. They get so little time off that they rarely participate in expedition off road. This is one reason (among others) that you do not see Diesels very often. Thinner tires that readily flatten out when deflated are better in most situations this is why Camel trophy vehicles used them.
many says that the hummer h1 is to big for ordinary offroading. That maybe true but where the hummer does fit on the realy big challenges. it rules. A hummer is not a truck, is not just any 4x4. ITS A HUMMER
A 130 or even a 110 with the same tyres as the Hummer would be a better test than using a 90. Like for like the Landy is far better than a Hummer over any ground.
Both Hummers and Landys have their pros and cons.. Landys have a short wheel base compared to the hummer, but the landy is much more maneuverable, but the hummer can go anywhere, as long as it can fit. lol
hummer has a 130 wheelbase... d90 has well, 90 in wheelbase. derpppp
hummer gets more traction at the base, further up. the d90 owner probably got his because he wanted to go somewhere that was skinnier than 7 feet! WHAT A JOKE.
try the defender 110 or 130. every time will be more efficient, carry more payload and less retarded. either rovers would make it up this rock
On multiple trips to lesotho in my D90 on what are little less than bridle paths with 500 foot drops i definitely wouldn't want a hummer. Living in Africa i wouldn't have any other vehicle other than my D90 or a Landcruiser '70, spare parts every were and very versatile the hummer wouldn't have a chance on 99% of the roads i ride on in the place were 4x4 is undisputedly the best.
Off roadings more about the driver than the vehicle. Old series 2 landrover would conquer that rock with the right person in it. Same with a wrangler and a hummer really. I really wish in off road tests and shootouts that they got the SAME driver in both to test them lol :)
5true im american and i like manuals and so do many of my friends plus the bullshit where u cant even get manuals on 95% of cars unless u get the lowest grade package shit causes a problem checklists should be brought back and im like the h1 better but i still love landrovers if they are NOT the rangerover
@MadMuddyZuk its becuse u can buy a defender for 1000 dollar race and trow it away. but u cant do that to a hummer. thats why, its not affordable , and + u need to corect your facts, there are hummers on dakar rally
if u think defender is better show us a video that is better, all we see now is one pussy rover.
REAL4wd 6 days ago
hahaha land rover, i have 2 classic rovers :) i like them, but offroad vs hummer h1? NO WAY
hey dont talk shit, i have both of them and i know better than many of you, >> light duty offroad i take the classic, heavy duty offroad Hummer rulls
REAL4wd 2 weeks ago
@REAL4wd If the hummer rules offroad, why is almost every serious offroad competition dominated by modified defenders?
Everything up to the Paris-Dakar rally. And how many hummers do you see in these competitions? None. Why?
Because the experts don't rate hummers.
MadMuddyZuk 1 week ago
amazing, all you have proved is that simply having a different tires and air pressure can improve your climbing ability. i wouldn't be able to make it up that hill with interco thornbirds running 35psi but get a set of bfg krawlers and run them around 8psi and that hill would be a cake walk
thrasher1988 3 weeks ago
I understand if ur living in europe but in the majority of northamerica it's not that wide on the road.
MrHobojenkins 3 weeks ago
Any vehicle is at the mercy of it's handler.........This vid doesn't prove ANYTHING !
DucatiQueen 3 weeks ago
WMG fuck you !
reilfman 4 weeks ago
just wonder if the idiot in the land rover even knows how to off road without acting like a jackass
wellyuk25 1 month ago
all about the tyres and tyre pressure... a fucking suzuki jimny would get up that if it had right tyres on... defenders still the ultimate 4x4!!!
chezzylee 1 month ago
they didnt put the dif lock on and they had a harder route
likes for BRITAIN
cameroncowie1 1 month ago 2
I love trucks in general and I think both of these vehicles are great in their own way, but I got to say that LR driver is an idiot. I could have done that in my jeep with stock tires
KeliBaB 2 months ago
Two words: Bowler Wildcat..
Four more words: I rest my case.
ZakkRobinson 2 months ago 3
the LR dude needed to lower his tire pressure and shift into 4 low, should have been np i could do that in a stock hilux
Vapeorsmokers 2 months ago
LR driver is an idiot a proper driver woulda done that without thinking
LittletinyGeorge 2 months ago
Driver of the LR is either not trying or doesn't have a chuffing clue!
fillupabucket 2 months ago
This comparo is totally ridiculous. Victory here can be boiled down to SWB vs LWB. IMO Hummers are totally impractical - they're too thirsty and too heavy, and not many 'real' wheelers took up on them. It was the rich and trendies with deep pockets who thought that owning army surplus would make up for limited off-roading skills.
But in the real world, a Defender or Landcruiser is the only offroaders choice.
kidsilvester 2 months ago
hear is more of wheel grip not on 4 x4 power different wheels differente grip
krafty95 2 months ago
Land Rover the best 4x4 by far
Jony80031 2 months ago
@Jony80031 Your the stupidest person i have ever seen how would a land rover even be a competiton for any hummer and why does everyone on the earth say the hummer is the best 4x4. Think about it!
HaloCOD816 2 months ago
@HaloCOD816 Because they're all fucking stupid yanks who think that simply being big, loud and fucking annoying makes you the best of something. Landrovers shit all over hummers in nearly every fucking way. i don't doubt that hummers outclass landrovers in some areas. like being a car for stupid fucking pig headed americans. I've seen landrovers pulling your piece of shit hummers out of little fucking puddles, then those same landrovers drive up fucking rivers. Go fuck yourself
JinxanatorF22 2 months ago
@JinxanatorF22 It sounds like some American rubbed you the wrong way you Aussie twat. I find it funny that you have the name of an American jet in your un. Is the Raptor "big, loud and fucking annoying" as well? Neither could possibly be half as annoying as that douchey sounding Australian accent. Go choke on a kangaroo cock you queer.
covertion08 2 months ago
Not exactly. I just find people who simply use the fact that the hummer is american to say that its superior. and yeah, i can appreciate the irony in that. as for the last bit ill pass if you don't mind.
JinxanatorF22 1 month ago
@JinxanatorF22 I have a D90 and I think I love you , lol
DucatiQueen 3 weeks ago
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Land Rover:
-Environmentally friendly car. (All parts are reused, and even broken!)
-Sustainable. (80% of all Land Rover as building block is still in use)
-Valuesmost famous off-road car.
Today, Land Rover turns 65. I think that should be celebrated!
please send forward this to other Land Rover movies!
97jocke 2 months ago
Definitely staged video this one, i've seen Defender 90s climb far more difficult terrain than this, yep i've got to ring the bullshit bell on this one.
coalfirediesel 2 months ago
@coalfirediesel I agree!!
97jocke 2 months ago
plz some one give this guy a scooter befor he damage the landrover .
johntaheri 2 months ago
Just a difference in wheelbase, I've seen it a hundred times. A longer wheelbase was better for that obstacle. Find one where you need a really good break-over and it could be a different story.
n8sp8 3 months ago 2
Personally I'd probably buy a range rover cause it has the best $ value when it comes to luxury and 4x4 offroad capability.
MrHobojenkins 3 months ago
This video is fake.The landrover is more capable than that. And as for all u hummer haters I will admit the h2 and h3 suck but a real h1 has many standard options. And although a good one will set u back quite a bit. How can u say that a vehicle which is bullitproof, can cruise through a meter of water, has a reinforced undercarrige, can climb more than a 60 degree incline, and can drive over a 2 meter wide trench, is worse than a land rover or range rover
MrHobojenkins 3 months ago
@MrHobojenkins Because off road is the ONLY place you can drive a hummer. On a normal road you would squash everything.
TheWierdFish 3 months ago
I could have done that climb in my townace, i think the landrover drive looks and drives like a keystone cop lol
Nice soft tyres :)
sard37 3 months ago
give the defender to the same guy who drive the hummer then you see it's not the car it's rhe D... r..ver
johntaheri 3 months ago
This video is a fake.
The landy would piss that. The prick doesn't even have it in low range.
discochally2 3 months ago
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tires has alot to do with it,tires pressuretc,also the gear you have it in
oldaccountbanned 4 months ago
ties has alot to do with it,tires pressuretc,also the gear you have it in
oldaccountbanned 4 months ago
BULLSHIT video made by an idiot trying to prove tht american vehicles are better than everything else.
andrewbradley130 4 months ago 29
@andrewbradley130 Check out his other vids. He's obviously hummer obsessed.
MudBarf 3 months ago
@andrewbradley130 Nah, I'd just say as an American myself that this video may be the ONLY off road instance in which a hummer is actually useful. they are so heavy that they cannot do ANYTHING else. ;-)
filmjunkie998 2 months ago
@andrewbradley130 they kind of are. i think that proved it.........
gtaking188 2 months ago
@andrewbradley130 seems more like someone trying to show that everyone calling hummers shit and showing Land Rovers against H2's and not the REAL Hummer the H1.
MrPenobe 2 months ago
Something really amiss with the LR. Notice the lack of axle articulation? Looks like he has *improved*it by fitting spring that are far to stiff. No wonder it was shit.
capncol 1 month ago
the driver of the rover was a fool.
rednexRC 4 months ago
haha der landrover kommt da mit mühe erst hoch und der hummer mal eben so ganz locker
papakalli 4 months ago
hummer has a much longer wheel base and with the extra body weight that thing is carrying plus it had much bigger off road tyres that had less pressure then the LR thats why it hugged the stones nicer than the LR,
IN GENERAL THE LR WOULD RUN RINGS AROUND THAT HOUSE THEY CALL A 4X4 NOT TO MENTION HAVING THE BEST 4 WHEEL DRIVE SYSTEM IN THE WORLD (CHALLENGE MY STATEMENT IF YOU DARE) LANDROVER RULES EVERY TIME !!!!!!!!!!!!!
h789yym 4 months ago
It's not about the differtials. The 50 year old car wasn't STRONG enough to climb, the 10 year old car climbed. Thats all.
Land Rovers from 2000s have 3.9L 182 hp (136 kW) V8 engines and can go places that TWICE as priced H1 with his twice as strong engine (6.5L V8) will never see.
izmisljenoimezausa 4 months ago
@izmisljenoimezausa It wasn't a power issue. Or an age issue. LWB vehicles are better at climbing, SWB vehicles are better at almost everything else. The tyres on the Defender weren't aired down either, and it was being driven by a numpty who showed no finesse.
This vid is a fanboi Hummer advert. Look at his other vids - Hummer fanboi. He deliberately did everything he could to make the D90 look bad. I could just as easily "prove" a Hummer is crap by playing to it's weaknesses too!
MudBarf 4 months ago 2
this vid is silly just one thing camel troephy lets see a humer do that with out a gas truck folowing it
Amosvandam 4 months ago
@Amosvandam too bad the h1 is a diesel and its fuel economy is similar to other trucks its size and i know that d90 sucks on gas my jeep cj5 sucks on gas too all 4x4 do get over it
alanack67 4 months ago
Land Rover is a great truck, no doubt...But the Hummer just plays a different ball game...
Webcollege 4 months ago
@Webcollege The Hummer is a LWB vehicle. An EXTREMELY LWB vehicle. LWB vehicles climb better than SWB vehicles - especially ones with lifts and bigger tyres. It's all about COG and weight distribution.
This vid is massively misleading because it takes a LWB vehicle and "proves" it's better than a D90 by playing to it's strengths and the D90's weaknesses. It's *DELIBERATELY* misleading.
For a start, a stock D90 would climb better than that. Lower COG. A D130 better still. This vid is BS.
MudBarf 4 months ago 19
Theres a max on tire pressure.......read the labels
superduperjohn123 4 months ago
Theres a max on tire pressure.......read the lables
superduperjohn123 4 months ago
as long as your obstacle is wide enough the hummer will fair well,get in to some tight terrain and it's useless, freeway it's great,desert it's great,wide rock face it's great,real world trail work.............useless
inthepurelight 4 months ago
You can't prove anything with a video. Anyone can fake up a video. Because any video could be fake means that they don't prove anything. The same goes for pictures.
srvnet 5 months ago
the hummer is missing half its bodywork!!!
fuzzdmedic 5 months ago
Ya ya, I watched ?v=c4JpKt2zUfo. Only way to really tell anything is to drive them yourself. Too many variables that can influence the outcome when other people drive them and you are just watching. Like I said before youtube doesn't prove anything one way or the other as to which may be better.
srvnet 5 months ago
@srvnet While that's true (and who knows what mods have been made to the two vehicles) it doesn't change my point, which is that you can make a youtube video that "proves" any vehicle is better than any other.
From the right angle, I can create a photograph that "proves" a strawberry is bigger than a mellon. And I could make a video that "proves" a D90 is better than a H1 (if I had a H1) just as easily. And both would be as misleading as this vid.
MudBarf 5 months ago
All you people. Don't you know that the other guy always has the best. Don't matter what you have the other person thinks his is better. Even if it really isn't. Doesn't matter what is shown or said here. Youtube doesn't prove anyting.
srvnet 5 months ago
@srvnet My SJ413 *IS* better though. It really is! It flies! It does the washing up! It predicts the future! One day it will kill Justin Bieber! Twice!
MudBarf 5 months ago
@MudBarf That's fucking hilarious. Zuki's rule, wish i had mine back.
dillbertlee 4 months ago
@dillbertlee Don't they, though? Freakin' awesome little machines. Real live axles, decent articulation, insanely light engines that allow them to go crazy angles without tipping over... Everything a decent 4x4 should have, in a pocket sized package.
MudBarf 4 months ago
@MudBarf Not to mention that they're easy to find and extremely cheap to modify, if you do some of the work yourself of course. Suzuki>Hummer
dillbertlee 4 months ago
@dillbertlee The only vehicles that get through obstacles I can't are ones with twin lockers (usually D90's over here). Hilux, Pajero, Land Cruiser, Patrol, Cherokee, Range Rover, Discovery - I've out-4x4'd 'em all, and in an SJ that cost me less than their tyres cost them.
I want a 1.6 with bike carbs and a set of front and rear lockrights - then even the V8 twin ARB'd D90's would have to phear me! Mwahahahahaaaa!
Smiles per pound/dollar, nothing comes *close* to an SJ. Get another!
MudBarf 4 months ago
@MudBarf I've already found my next one. It's a fuel injected 1.6, spoa conversion, 5.12 ring a pinion with Titan 8.00-16 tractor tires :)
dillbertlee 4 months ago
@dillbertlee Vids! I wanna see vids of it in action!
:)
MudBarf 4 months ago
@MudBarf As soon as i can replace my camera i will be happy to post some vids. Beer and whiskey sure can take it's toll on a digital camera lol!
dillbertlee 4 months ago
It is ovious and fucken cheating the landrover had hard rock tyres and that is what made her bounce and the hummer had the tyres like a coushion so it had more grip if your are going to a challange do it fucken right
MaLTaWheels1 5 months ago
I have an armchair in my 4x4.
srvnet 5 months ago
For all you armchair experts out there, watch this video:
watch?v=c4JpKt2zUfo
The discovery and the defender in that vid have very similar (almost identical) mechanicals, but the discovery has a longer wheelbase. It gets stuck when the defender 90 sails through.
The Hummer is much longer wheelbase than either of those vehicles - in those same conditions, it would have gotten even more stuck than the Discovery, making the D90 "better". It's horses for courses.
MudBarf 5 months ago
Type in tierod break hummer. Funniest shit. American pieces of SHITE
wezdog1 5 months ago
long wheel base. short wheel base.
MrEarthmover 5 months ago 2
@MrEarthmover I wonder if there's any way of finding out where that was shot, and sending someone in a Defender 130 down there to show all these armchair experts what you mean...?
MudBarf 5 months ago
Eh, D90 isn't the best of the Land Rovers for this, but sure you get a better one it could climb is no problem, but all in all the Hummer H1 is the better choice for negotiating any kind of rough terrain
HellBarrageKhaini 5 months ago
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MudBarf 5 months ago
@HellBarrageKhaini Which is why the Paris-Dakar is full of Hummers, right? Oh, wait, no, it's full of D90, D110, D130 and RR based Tomcats and Bowlers.
The H1 is *not* better at negotiating *any* kind of rough terrain. If you were something other than just another armchair expert, you'd know why.
MudBarf 3 months ago
The Hummer is crazy...
oOOpIIIqOOo 5 months ago
USA wins again!
19bengates92 5 months ago
@19bengates92 No, it doesn't. If you can't tell why this video is a biased hummer advert by a fanboi, then you're an armchair expert. I could easily make a video that "proves" my Suzuki SJ or one of my mate's D90's is "better" than a Hummer, but anyone who actually knows 4x4'ing would't be fooled. Only armchair experts fall for this crap.
The Hummer is a good vehicle, but it's not "better" than a D90 - they have opposing strengths and weaknesses. You can't compare them directly.
MudBarf 5 months ago
hey that hummer looks rediculous. I'd find that embarrassing to drive
browndogrider1962 5 months ago 3
@browndogrider1962 Your just jealous that american trucks have the best quality trucks in the world. you just cant handle the truth.
mark12130 2 months ago
@mark12130 American made vehicles are notorious around the world for being shiiit.LOL
Tommyfungun 1 month ago
@Tommyfungun Atlease this shit is better then your diarrhea. LOL
mark12130 1 month ago
yea right !!! this video is funny !!!
jazzitality 5 months ago
Why have the correct tyre pressure in the Hummer but not in the Defender?
BroccoliBomber 5 months ago
ok im a hummer guy, but i have to say wtf to that one. First of all the defenders tire pressure must have been maxed out , Second it looked like he had no clue of what he was doing.
LJinALASKA 5 months ago
@LJinALASKA You know what? You probably actually own a Hummer (or some kind of half-decent 4x4, at least) too. Unlike most of the armchair experts on here.
I own neither. I'm a fanboi of neither. I own a Suzuki SJ413 - which goes just about anywhere on mere 31x10.5/15's. Well, almost anywhere - search youtube for 9AsPBomx10w - sorry about Jack's language...
It's a shame we can't limit comments to people who actually own:
A) A real 4x4
B) A brain
MudBarf 5 months ago
Longer wheel base idiots!!
thesquash61 5 months ago
thats not a fucken hummer ....
brosb4hos21 5 months ago
is this the pissed off euro-trash room?
philtripe 5 months ago
Every Hummer H1 model was assembled exactly where it should have been, here in the USA.
Cannabis919 5 months ago
@Cannabis919 That's why they're unreliable pieces of shit.
nilbud 5 months ago
@nilbud Yet they'll pull anything you put in front of it, and climb any hill you drive it up. But what has little Ireland created? ......Go ahead, i'll wait.
Cannabis919 5 months ago
OWNED
IchiDeux 5 months ago
@IchiDeux Yes, *you* were OWNED. If you can't tell why this is a setup, you don't know anything about 4x4ing, and have proven yourself to be an armchair expert.
Clues: lwb v swb, tyre pressure, approach angles...
I could easily make a vid (if I had access to a Hummer) that "proves" the D90 is superior to a Hummer. And it'd be just as misleading, and only armchair experts would be fooled by it.
MudBarf 5 months ago
way to much air im 15 and no that
Mcneelynoah 6 months ago
This is the most incompetent 4X4 driver I have ever seen. Land Rover can easily climb that.
bmwaaz730 6 months ago
till the shoebox with wheels made it....... love defenders!!!!
wmoltke 6 months ago
defender driver = bitch... i woulda wampped right up that in my POS FJ55...
PaintballProductions 6 months ago
Remember the H1 cost around $100,000 More than the Defender did. hm? hm? Defender should win
InmyJag 6 months ago
All of the videos that I saw of his were of Hummers, I don' think that he really wanted the Rover to make it up. I would have passed him half way up in a Rover. hahahaha
TheMotomofo 6 months ago
use the diff lock!!!!!
eik500 6 months ago
had a look at his account.. all his upload are for hammer. i came to conclusion this guy is a LR hater and this video was set up to make hammer look good. this is a fake.
extremecrossover 6 months ago
its just the WB but in colorado ware i live that wont fit on the trails
Jony80031 6 months ago
Look at the tires on the LR, then look at the tires on the H1. Tell me who has a better chance of getting out of ANYWHERE that might be slick or rocky. It's hard to see on the video, but the owner of the LR should be ashamed to have the machine at such a disadvantage.
Strykenine 6 months ago
too much air in those tires.....
tyewalkerfm1 6 months ago
this guy must be retarded my gran could get that defender up there
jarris9 6 months ago 3
Hummer H1 4-Ever!
TheTAVALI 6 months ago
The Defenders, Some of the Jeep Wranglers, The Toyota J90's and the H1 are excellent off road vehicles stock. I think this challenge better suits the H1 & that the Defenders tires were in poor shape.
OdinsCloud 6 months ago
This Land Rover is a short wheel base, the Hummer is much longer, not to mention with MUCH bigger tyres. The Hummer has no roof, along with being longer, its centre of gravity is much lower making it climb better.
The Land Rover is a lot taller making it unstable, along with smaller wheels and a higher centre of gravity.
DipDop99 7 months ago
land rover tyres had too much air in them.
DipDop99 7 months ago 2
that looked really really easy
BlackCloudPSD 7 months ago
no way, landrovers are so much better than hummers, maybey not confort wise but defenatly off road
ThePieman911 7 months ago
the hummer had better tiers that the onley reason it climb the rock my jeep would climb over that hummshit
farmall958 7 months ago
shaddddup !! face it d90 sucked lol!!
jan1761 7 months ago
@jan1761 The lwb vehicle climbed better. Oh, shock horror. Call the local news.
If you don't know why this comparison is massively unfair and aimed at n00bs who don't know anything about 4x4'ing, then you're said n00b.
MudBarf 7 months ago
That Defender should be able to do that easy...ARB locked or not. The driver was faking or incompetent.
NakedNinjaBlackOps 7 months ago 43
@NakedNinjaBlackOps Probably the latter. American driver + stick shift = much hilarity.
TheTruemouse 6 months ago
you cant farm in stilettos
Richona 7 months ago
With a correct tires pressure the defender can do easily that!
elettricbeat 7 months ago 33
Look at the tyres on the hummer compared to the defender!! thats a very unfair comparison!!!!
1997andyjones 7 months ago 2
@1997andyjones dam right dude, and maybe the guy in the defender should learn how to drive :)
Obraxes 7 months ago
hummer widely developed, lightweight and with an absurd power and turbines, see the leaves moving in step, (!!) against a misguided defender, ON ANOTHER FU*K*NG ROUTE, with tires almost to throw. great difference, yes.
MrCeres87 7 months ago
look at the tyres the landy has shit tyres unlike the h1 rematch
GWR4079 7 months ago
the longer wheelbase gave it its edge here
lextastic 7 months ago
in my opinion old 80's 90's 70's suburbans/yukons are my fav 4x4
zackjp 7 months ago
i like the video but when do we get to see the petrol truck follow that hummer up there. h1 look cool but i here landrover wolfs have to pull the things out of the sand cuz thay way so much and you need a degree from a english uni to fix it where as i fixst my landy with a hammer and some duck tape i dont see meny garages in the wild and just so you know some of the h1 parts come from uk somerest i know that because i live there.
Amosvandam 7 months ago
I sure would have been pissed if my $130,00 "ultimate civilian off road vehicle" wouldn't make it over that simple step.
Ravage172 8 months ago
th h1 and the h2 are the best hummers
but the h3 is a bit ...
oh and the land rover got owned
dariohum123 8 months ago
@dariohum123 Of course it did. You're pitting a LWB vehicle (Hummer) against a SWB vehicle (Defender 90) in a test (climbing) that MASSIVELY favours the LWB vehicle. Strange that the LWB vehicle wins, eh?
Now get both vehicles to try cresting a sharp angle at the top, and watch the Defender sail over it while the Hummer grounds out. Or try pitting a Defender 130 with ARB's and 10ish PSI 33x13.5x16's against the Hummer and watch it crawl up there with the same ease.
Dumbass video for n00bs.
MudBarf 8 months ago 2
@dariohum123 h2s are shit as well and the land rover didn't get owned because they're two completely different vehicles
19jacobob93 7 months ago
@19jacobob93 h2 is not shit ok
good driver good truck
bad driver bad truck
dariohum123 7 months ago
@dariohum123 they're absolute shite, i know someone who had one but sold it for a second hand range rover. he said it was poorly built and it felt cheap. the interior is like a giant wheely bin! and they're really under powered for the size of the engine it had.
19jacobob93 7 months ago
@19jacobob93 well my friends uncle has a h2 and they are awesome !! they certainley do not feel cheap, but he doesn't uses it for in the city and stuf like that, only offroading they go one everything thats possible
dariohum123 7 months ago
a long wheel base landy woulda done the trick. nice hummer though.
skinnyfish111 8 months ago
*hummer strolls in* here comes the fat cunt.
iRowey 8 months ago
ooh me god hummer is the best!!!
rekiiker 8 months ago
Lets stop for a second... Hummers are shit, they are called H2 and H3 but the H1 is one of the best off roading vehicles out there. The PSI in the Land rover is the same as the H1's except the H1 is a 5 ton truck.
ZaoHuZhua 8 months ago
this video makes land rovers look shit , well if you think this your fuking mistaken , shit head tires and a shit head driver , id love to vs that hummer in my defender. just saying....
RYANEVANS9 8 months ago
to be fair, you cant compare these 2 cars. the hummers engine is twice the size, its wheels are twice the size and it weighs 3 times as much! but i reckon if you put the same tyres on the defender it would smash it up there. im sorry but hummers are pure shite!
19jacobob93 8 months ago
@19jacobob93 No the H1 is a very good vehicle, it is the H2 that is pure shite! The H1 is the original Hummer vehicle but unfortunately it is no longer offered to the civilian market, they only offer the fat crappy H2.
OdinsCloud 8 months ago
@OdinsCloud yeah to be honest, you have a point! :) i think the H2 and H3 have ruined hummers reputation by being horrible niggamobiles!
19jacobob93 8 months ago
@19jacobob93 I figured you were thinking of the H2 or H3.
OdinsCloud 7 months ago
@OdinsCloud yep, its just a shame they don't make the h1 anymore
19jacobob93 7 months ago
@19jacobob93 Well it's the American market. I was born in the USA & I can confirm that teh majority of Americans like Cheap, big & fat. They also buy according to brand rarely looking deeper into the components & attributes that determine actual quality. This makes it easy for an auto manufacturer to swap an expensive to produce offering like H1 that has real capability & durability for a fat capped pickup truck like the H2 that costs much much less to produce.
OdinsCloud 7 months ago
@19jacobob93 Just weld on allot of metal around a pickup truck frame, give it a nice paint job & some wheels, put some cushy leather inside & wallah... Cheap, fat, stupid vehicle for the cheap, fat, American public... The H1 as it should of been made available is a bit too spartan for the price range it competes in. Americans like cushy, smooth & sweet. Most people who really want an off road vehicle modify a jeep. There are surprisingly few other options in the USA.
OdinsCloud 7 months ago
@19jacobob93 Americans are obsessed with fat, stout lines and like FAT tires. Offroading for Americans is trying to get over and between rocks for a mile or two and then going back home in time for Monday work. They get so little time off that they rarely participate in expedition off road. This is one reason (among others) that you do not see Diesels very often. Thinner tires that readily flatten out when deflated are better in most situations this is why Camel trophy vehicles used them.
OdinsCloud 7 months ago
many says that the hummer h1 is to big for ordinary offroading. That maybe true but where the hummer does fit on the realy big challenges. it rules. A hummer is not a truck, is not just any 4x4. ITS A HUMMER
blackmetalofnorway1 8 months ago
yeah i think the 110 would make a much better comparison. That 90 is just too short for this.
hunkgod 8 months ago
hummer rulles i have one and it fucked a chevy and a land rover stock tires
hummerfreak1 8 months ago
wow my jeep could have walked that little rock in 2 wheel drive
greenweenie1775 8 months ago
Whoever was driving the Defender is a retard!! Hummers = Shit!! Defenders = Quality!! end of!!
69stevet69 8 months ago
A 130 or even a 110 with the same tyres as the Hummer would be a better test than using a 90. Like for like the Landy is far better than a Hummer over any ground.
russ2903 8 months ago
Both Hummers and Landys have their pros and cons.. Landys have a short wheel base compared to the hummer, but the landy is much more maneuverable, but the hummer can go anywhere, as long as it can fit. lol
SteveIronmaiden 8 months ago
my defender would go up that, just need to learn how to drive and get better tyres.
jmbjmbjmbjmbjmb 8 months ago
this is a load of bograt!!!
Where the magestic midget is the dragon?
Plus added camel cream
ross2816 8 months ago
hummer has a 130 wheelbase... d90 has well, 90 in wheelbase. derpppp
hummer gets more traction at the base, further up. the d90 owner probably got his because he wanted to go somewhere that was skinnier than 7 feet! WHAT A JOKE.
try the defender 110 or 130. every time will be more efficient, carry more payload and less retarded. either rovers would make it up this rock
spencerdpeteeduhduh 9 months ago
ill challenge mo fucking any 4x4 against my feet, and we'll see who gets up most hills nigga lol
badasskitch23 9 months ago
that hummer had serious off roading tyres on?
the landy was on semi off roads? plus the wheel base the landy could barely get up the rock face alone? unfair test. LANDYS ALL THE WAY!!!
joshboi9890 9 months ago
Hummer is the shit and cannot be touched
CheatCheaters 9 months ago
@CheatCheaters : Shit can be touched, it's just messy ;)
csmgj 9 months ago
@CheatCheaters why has it got a force field???????
badasskitch23 9 months ago
@badasskitch23 no it was metaphorical... and id like to see a landrover overtake a hummer in offroading...
CheatCheaters 8 months ago
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Fuck all Land Rover get a hilux or Landcruiser
1handyvan 9 months ago
On multiple trips to lesotho in my D90 on what are little less than bridle paths with 500 foot drops i definitely wouldn't want a hummer. Living in Africa i wouldn't have any other vehicle other than my D90 or a Landcruiser '70, spare parts every were and very versatile the hummer wouldn't have a chance on 99% of the roads i ride on in the place were 4x4 is undisputedly the best.
Sionicir 9 months ago
5000$ vs 100 000$...
boutbout999 9 months ago
Not when the past the 4 foot path is a 10000 foot drop... I suppose it might drive back up it
ClipFaceGun 9 months ago
the hummer had vtec
sic3kgt 9 months ago
@TFSJake but if it was the 110 the 110 what get up there with ease!!
Tcowderoy 9 months ago
Off roadings more about the driver than the vehicle. Old series 2 landrover would conquer that rock with the right person in it. Same with a wrangler and a hummer really. I really wish in off road tests and shootouts that they got the SAME driver in both to test them lol :)
sixaxion 9 months ago
this is fake maan !!
the LR driver is a poor guy who dosn't know how to drive
hand me that baby and all show driving ,,,
is that hummer even a manual trans like the LR ?!!
grenadeUAE 9 months ago
@grenadeUAE no, they're auto
chunkyfecalbreakfast 9 months ago
@grenadeUAE manual trans? lol americans wont touch it unless its auto!
flenny 8 months ago
@flenny well i guss they don't know the word 'fun'
H1 is cool and all,but its no mach for an LR
grenadeUAE 8 months ago
@flenny not 100
5true im american and i like manuals and so do many of my friends plus the bullshit where u cant even get manuals on 95% of cars unless u get the lowest grade package shit causes a problem checklists should be brought back and im like the h1 better but i still love landrovers if they are NOT the rangerover
Muckypuck2 8 months ago
Sure the land rover can go around trees better, but the hummer h1 will just drive through them.
5Bullet5 9 months ago
The 110 would make it
FronteraFanatic 9 months ago
wank. get a suzuki sj
meagain499 9 months ago