Well, love the orchestra, but the solist is not quite as "historical" as it should be. The notes are not suposed to be all staccato and the big round full notes only appeared on Romanticism. The orchestra is very good, though!
@senshigeia Hmm... Is it supposed to be always legato? I understand the concept of full sound and notes but I was under the impression that Mozart was very vague with his marked articulation and that it is left open to the player's interpretation. I think the staccato adds character to the piece - if every note was played the same way it would be pretty monotonous.
@shaylenmusic All articulations in this era in extended passages are left to the performer. There are many practices, and many times the more common articulation of choice was the detached. However, that articulation may be a little too antique for mozart. I love this recording.
@shaylenmusic, it's very difficult to know how they did it at that time mainly becouse of the lack of recorded performances. Articulations are usually put by the performer to show certain melodic aspects or to had character to the piece, like you said. If the performer does all notes staccato then every melodic aspect is treated the same, and therefore no melodic movement and no melodic change of direction is shown. But then again, every interpretation is personal and nothing is a rule :)
Mozart wrote other works for the Clarinet, like the Clarinet Concerto K622. He wrote for Alfred Stanler who was a virtuoso on the clarinet as is Anthony Pay.
The reason that Mozart said that; he said that the only instrument more out of tune than a clarinet is another clarinet, MUST'VE BEEN because AT THE TIME clarinets were not built like today. I was just saying that this is the reason that MOZART did not write any other work for clarinet. THIS, as far as I'm concerned IS PERFECTLY IN TUNE.
@PolyChromaticTone To say anything is ever perfectly in tune is naive... tuning isn't absolute, it varies from key signature to key signature, from piece to piece. The really low notes below low E are sharp, but they resonate so well that the tuning doesn't stand out. As a matter of fact, much of this soloist's playing is maybe 1-2 cents sharp, but it works well. Can you imagine if a soloist played perfectly in tune? He/she would just blend with the orchestra and it would sound boring.
Mozart was also of the opinion that the (classical) clarinet most accurately simulated the human voice wasn't he? I have to say, listening to this recording I think it's something the modern clarinet has lost a little. This instrument also sounds a lot brighter and clearer, particularly noticeable in the chalumeau range...
Shame that AAMs not-quite-historical stringing practice means the bass instruments don't resonate quite enough, but I think they sound better playing classical than baroque..
@peres010492 Not exactly sure what I meant 1 year ago! but it could be the recording technique or production, or it could be lower tension strings, but the low frequencies and the bottom range of each instrument is not particularly resonant. The bass overall is a bit feeble, I find that on most AAM recordings.
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danielbream 2 months ago
I like how we can have a civilised conversation about music here :)
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NihilTico 4 months ago
@CarlMariaWeber LOL that was the funniest thing I have ever read... Alfred Stanler bahaha
shaylenmusic 5 months ago
Well, love the orchestra, but the solist is not quite as "historical" as it should be. The notes are not suposed to be all staccato and the big round full notes only appeared on Romanticism. The orchestra is very good, though!
senshigeia 6 months ago
@senshigeia Eric Hoeprich, Charles Neidich, and others articulate much of the sixteenth-note passage work too. Why is it not historical to do so?
NoseyFlynn48 6 months ago
@senshigeia Hmm... Is it supposed to be always legato? I understand the concept of full sound and notes but I was under the impression that Mozart was very vague with his marked articulation and that it is left open to the player's interpretation. I think the staccato adds character to the piece - if every note was played the same way it would be pretty monotonous.
shaylenmusic 5 months ago
@shaylenmusic All articulations in this era in extended passages are left to the performer. There are many practices, and many times the more common articulation of choice was the detached. However, that articulation may be a little too antique for mozart. I love this recording.
oshidonimlop 4 months ago
@shaylenmusic, it's very difficult to know how they did it at that time mainly becouse of the lack of recorded performances. Articulations are usually put by the performer to show certain melodic aspects or to had character to the piece, like you said. If the performer does all notes staccato then every melodic aspect is treated the same, and therefore no melodic movement and no melodic change of direction is shown. But then again, every interpretation is personal and nothing is a rule :)
senshigeia 1 month ago
SLOWWWWWWWW for gods sakes havnt u heard this piece is supposed to be played twice as fast. this should be on failblog for clarinet concerto fail
zaremar 1 year ago
Mozart wrote other works for the Clarinet, like the Clarinet Concerto K622. He wrote for Alfred Stanler who was a virtuoso on the clarinet as is Anthony Pay.
davidorbachmusic 2 years ago
Funny, I meant to ask you if you have this one, but couldn't remember the key or the K No.
It's easier when the piece is an aria with some words in the title.
But I'm glad I stumbled on this one.
(we played this one too, only we accompanied the clarinetist).
Isn't this the only clarined concerto that he wrote? I think he said that the only instrument more out of tune than a clarinet is another clarinet.
I think it got cut off a little early.
PolyChromaticTone 3 years ago
Well, we clarinetists try our best, but yes, a tuner a clarinetist's best friend and enemy.
besnotaplace 2 years ago
The reason that Mozart said that; he said that the only instrument more out of tune than a clarinet is another clarinet, MUST'VE BEEN because AT THE TIME clarinets were not built like today. I was just saying that this is the reason that MOZART did not write any other work for clarinet. THIS, as far as I'm concerned IS PERFECTLY IN TUNE.
PolyChromaticTone 2 years ago
@PolyChromaticTone To say anything is ever perfectly in tune is naive... tuning isn't absolute, it varies from key signature to key signature, from piece to piece. The really low notes below low E are sharp, but they resonate so well that the tuning doesn't stand out. As a matter of fact, much of this soloist's playing is maybe 1-2 cents sharp, but it works well. Can you imagine if a soloist played perfectly in tune? He/she would just blend with the orchestra and it would sound boring.
shaylenmusic 5 months ago
Mozart was also of the opinion that the (classical) clarinet most accurately simulated the human voice wasn't he? I have to say, listening to this recording I think it's something the modern clarinet has lost a little. This instrument also sounds a lot brighter and clearer, particularly noticeable in the chalumeau range...
Shame that AAMs not-quite-historical stringing practice means the bass instruments don't resonate quite enough, but I think they sound better playing classical than baroque..
TheCrazyCello 2 years ago
@TheCrazyCello Not quite historical stringing practice?
peres010492 1 year ago
@peres010492 Not exactly sure what I meant 1 year ago! but it could be the recording technique or production, or it could be lower tension strings, but the low frequencies and the bottom range of each instrument is not particularly resonant. The bass overall is a bit feeble, I find that on most AAM recordings.
TheCrazyCello 1 year ago