I have been studying French Fencing (Epee and Sabre), Kenjujutsu, Escrima, Boxing, Eagle Kung Fu, and Southern Praying Mantis. For 18 years and no where near master all of them, but learning all has given me the ability to look outside of traditional lines. However, mma is the end of training not the beginning. Only after years of training does one break down what is not needed and free spar. Not the other way around. Or something like that.
@HandRpuffin : Hi, sorry I'm curious about one thing.... It's not a criticism. But when I see people that did a lot of year of training in 6/7 martial arts..... I always fell me very stupid because usually a lot of time is necessary not to master but only to understand and to use one martial art..... is it not too easy to misunderstand "something"?..... thank you for the attention
I respect MMA and similar, and I find them very interesting aspects, also technical. What I don't like is to see is to see a great master in a great video that is laughed by people that probably never tried to understand and to practise kenjutsu. People that think that is stupid.. . there was a time that thanks to these schools of sword people survived or died in japan, german, italy, england and so on..... at least before to attack something.... try it!
Kenjutsu, kyudo, Bujinkan/Ninjutsu, Kendo, Iaido etc. is material arts from the Japanese Samurai warriors many Japanese material arts/budo have a connection to the popular samurai warriors.
@sonicflam This technique is from Kuroda Sensei's own personal variations and techniques outside of the Shinbukan Kuroda Dojo's main systems. He does not teach this self created branch
@Iceberqe There are plenty of interviews, demonstrations, dvds and material on Kuroda Tetsuzan about the web. Good start would be the Tamiya-ryū and the Shinbukan Kuroda Dojo
@Iceberqe I should say I assume this entire demonstration is his own variation based on the first technique he uses, which is fairly well known as one of his famous hidden sword techniques. The ones that follow I couldnt say for sure but would assume them to also be since his student never displays a technique himself. Its common practice in style demonstrations for the student and teacher to alternate, and following his rule to not teach his variant, I think that shows by my former comment
The problem was that they don't have shields which limits very much their defense capabilities, romans knew that, that's why they never matched two gladiators fighting two handed against each other... there's nothing to watch in such a match
I am not sure about that. Think about it like this: You do not need defense capabilities if you have offense capabilities. Yes, sure for roman gladiators, that is another thing, but in battle or match where nobody wants to watch a perfect match, shield just slow you down. In kenjutsu, kendo, aido and martial art like this, offense is important, defense is for cowards :D
I must be honest, while the skill and focus of these individuals is strikingly apparent, there are a couple of the counters that I think are a bit of a stretch. In scenario 4 and 6, the deep-crouching overhead slash the student attempts that sensei continuously counters is, in my personal opinion, an unlikely "what if". He sits into the cut too heavily, his range falls short regardless of the sensei's movement, and his foot placement is so wide that he wouldn't be able to return to guard anyway.
@0oIcarusComplexo0 Very well noticed. Like you said, there are many counters that are a bit stretched but like Theparable was stating its a demo to show historic value in their technique, but im more inclined to agree with you. Both are very skilled but if i would say, i would like to see more of the technique than strikes and counters. I want to see how he flows with the forms, how he moves in resonance with his opponent. To show the full effect of their technique... but thats just my opinon.
Just like they would fight any enemy - look for an opening in the opponents defence & exploit it.
A shield obstructs weapons from both sides & fighting with 1 is a skill in itself,sure it has its advantages, but it has drawbacks too,eg: it unlikely that you could weild a very long sword with only one hand, this *potentially* means that the "samurai" can stay permanently out of his reach whilst still maintaining an offence.
Like ALL matches, relative skill is most important.
this is just an demonstration but during the Senguko Jidai and Edo Era they train Kenjutsu by sparring for real but they use simple attack techniques so the defender can block the strike and not be injured or killed..............today most Sparring are done in Wooden Katana.
I get the impression that many of the commentators here don't quite grasp the caliber that Kuroda Tetsuzan Sensei (The older guy) operates at. This was just a public demo, which he's been known to dummy down like we see here.
That old guy haven't met his match, yet. Maybe Zoro can kick his ass with 3 swords style. Sword fight is a deadly game. So don't hesitate to steal all the moves. The old guys' quick foot steps motivate him with quick swings, and chops. I wouldn't move forward and wasting energies. I'll stand at one place, and swing my sword as hard as I can.
@Tibly Clearly, you've never been in a sword fight. Staying put in one place is the same thing as making yourself a dummy for swinging practice, and also makes you extremely susceptible to being manipulated by feints. Maybe you've watched too much anime or Hollywood movies to tell that something like a three swords style is purely fictional and completely impractical.
@Tibly listen zoro is gay. jin is the best dude. and if you stand in one place you will be killed .please that anime bullshit does not work all the time even if i dont agree with this swordplay style i must respect it for its abilities and advantages. i would gladly verse you in person but your location is irrelevant.
@Risouten - Clearly & obviously. If Tibly ever discovered Fudōshin, he'd probably think that it was a character in one of his anime shows. Or, if he "trained" hard enough at it, he'd be a Samurai just like he taught himself how to master the "three swords style" by simply standing still. Huh? I guess in his defense I heard those shows are pretty realistic & if he's paying attention, who knows maybe he'll "teach" us a thing or two :) Anyway, well put comment.
@Risouten Exactly. From the German manuscript HS 3227a: "But before all things, remember that you should not remain too long in one guard. Liechtenauer has a saying "He who is still, is dead, he who moves will live". And from these guards comes the understanding that you should move in swordplay, and not wait in a guard and thus waste your chance."
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I'm an expert on kenjutsu, and they are all very very similar. All dojos must utilize the most efficient and effective techniques, so the only factor is how good u r. Takes years of training, learn from Japanese sensei. This guy is very good, calm, collected, in control. Very dangerous swordsman. I can take him, but only if he attacks first, and no way in hell I'm gonna cut him first, he'll just use it against me like I would against him. We'll just stand there for hours waiting ......
that wouldn't make for a very exciting dual, but I know what you mean its much easier to counter than attack first. I think thats the case in most arts
What ??? you claim to be his source of threat and competition,Granted it could be possible to just have what we call today a 'Stand Off'
Yet in Ancient Times if neither moved towards the Katana to make an planned attack the liklihood of both walking away was very high.If either was to attack it was usually mutual slaying.Fact most duels ended this way,Blocking with the Katana was considered bad form,So example a duel was usually just one swift cut. Which hence almost led to mutual slayin
Yep. Ive seen them do the same set of movements in other videos and in the same order. There arent many of them so maybe he doesnt show the more advanced techniques.
The Kuroda family kenjutsu style,does anyone know what era the techniques originate from? They look very much like "Sengoku Jidai" sword work because of the low stances and hunched over kamae good for use while in yoroi. Just speculation though. Anyone?
Interesting question. I'm not an expert, but it's difficult to know the exact origin because, many schools shared a basis, very old and not formally formulated. In fact, many Yoroi related techniques are present in all styles, based on what i've heard from my former sensei. The Tate iza position is an example. I think we both should return to the study of Seitei Iai, the extract of all schools!! :)
Well maybe because it is. If they were out to have a real fight then one of them would be in the hospital very quickly, (and you can bet it wouldn't be the elder/sensei). You need to be aware that this is a demonstration of a style. In demonstrations it's important that people can see what you're doing. What you see here is far older and more for audiences who can appreciate the histories behind it. If you want real(ish) fights go watch that ufc trash.
Well said, not all people realise what is going on. its like a game of chess with posture and stance, even before you are in striking distance or execute a technique.
@dragonking700 That was kind of my point. My comment was toward the idiots who watch these and try and get their jollies by laughing at real martial arists because the people like Kuroda Sensei aren't muscle bound, flying through the air, wielding two swords at once, throwing shuriken and moving faster than light. My "ufc trash" statement is actually how I view the UFC. People who watch it are just as retarded if they think that is how they're going to win fights.
yeah, i hate it when people expect you to be patient when you have like a thousand videos and thousands of subscribers and are reviewing thausands of comments a day...not that i have any of that lol.
@Theparableof0 If you are referring to all of mma when you say " that ufc trash" then you are either very closed minded or you have no understanding of hand to hand combat.
@blackhughes open your mind.........he was talking about the UFC which is being Aired in TV and not MMA...........maybe you are the closed minded one.
@luftwaffe789456123 please man there is a lot of MMA on TV other than UFC, Theparableof0 just did not take the time to learn about MMA.... Why are you defending this guy ?? Im sure the guy is a grown man ??? and its not like Im hating on the video...
@Theparableof0 ufc (although prideFC was better) isnt trash its got nothing to do with sword play. why bring that into it, there is alot of skill on show here and professional mixed martial artists are also very skillfull to disrespect people who compete in tournaments testing their skills against each other is to disrespect martial arts as a whole. in the past swordsmen competed (and killed) each other in tournaments for money and fame. dissing MMA'ists says more about you than them.
Thank you for educating all who read your comment. Pride is/was huge to the Samurai, and they were paid for their work, so what makes them any different? Honor is a word that has limited use in combat, or, it is defined according to the misguided one making the comment. True Honor is allowing your enemy to live. Honor is being the greater warrior by killing your own ego instead of the other person.
@Theparableof0 stop being an elitist prick. ufc fighters are excellent fighters, trained in a lot of arts. but i guess an ignorant redneck like you believe they are a bunch of bums picked up from the streets and put in a cage like gladiators
@Theparableof0 Nice summary on the demo... but why would you call UFC - trash? Those guys train day in and day out and should deserve more respect from the real fight appreciators like you are.
@orelenok Indeed, its not often you find people who understand the differences, and more importantly, the similarity between traditional and modern forms of martial application. Either purists lagging on MMA or UFC fan boys lagging on the usefulness of older forms and using outdated Kung Fu film ideals as a base of hate. MMA is born from the martial arts that people have deemed outdated and if they spent some time overseas they'd see MMA and Trad styles enjoy a mutual beneficial relationship
@orelenok Though....it pains me to say Im more often defending traditional styles from some of the more rabid, uneducated UFC fanboys who make up a large % of the naysayers than defending "proper" MMA outlets.
It's supposed to be choreographed. They're going through a set of pre-planned attack and defense techniques to show different movements and principals of their art. This isn't a "real" fight, it's entirely staged and done with full intent of not actually hitting the other person.
i dont know what to make of it. i guess i need to know a lot more about the art.
it DOES look like one of those many many demos out there where the sensei's assistant takes falls out of pure expectation. seems like there was a lot of mutual blows. but like I said I don't really know the intent of this demonstration. I can't assume it's a "look how invincible i am" thing
That's part of the deal. It's a pre-arranged sequence designed to show the principles of the Art. In some (but by no means all) classical kenjutsu schools, teachers occaisionally change the kata "on the fly" to test the student's reactions. EIther that or the kata are performed with increasing resistance over time. This isn't what they're doing here though. :)
AIUI this kata is about feints. Each technique begins with a feinted attack, which prompts a defensive reaction that creates an opening elsewhere, and flows immediately into a true attack that takes advantage of that opening.
как самбо превалирует над дзю-до во всех формах(исключения удушающие) , так шырокая европейская шпага доминирует над самурайским мечом.технические данные у шпаги намного выше.
ive never taken any training in any art nevermind the art of the sword and even i can see it makes more sense to not hit your opponent in training it makes it harder because you will not only have to try and strike your opponent but also have the control to stop before you hit them
Yes there is that and also after two or three nights of training a week if you did get hit all the time you would be so sore that you could not do the training.
Samurai fighting syles are as plentiful as the stars. I have been in the art of the sword for 15 years and have seen more varieties and techniques than you can shake a stick at. But lets face it the common goal is the same destroy the opponent without concern for self preservation and with as much speed as possible. Samurai duels rarley last 30 seconds and that is the way of the warrior.
ignorant ppl should shuttup.. to perfect a technique takes ages why would one slash an aponent i feel u have missunderstood our practice completly go eat a burger n watch smackdown u ignoramus...
I think both approaches have merit. Obviously it is slightly different with a bokken because the strikes hurt, which limits how hard you can strike. There is also a lot to be gained mentally through the repetition of kata and the control it takes to pull the strike short. But if you're aiming for real combat effectiveness, in any art, there is a danger that if you always aim short in practice you will also aim short when it matters.
Kuroda sensei is one of the best, if not (handsdown) the best swordman alive nowadys. Even an average dude with a gun wouldn't stand a chance against him.
This is excellent kenjutsu technique, but its not that exciting for the 21st century. Why not wear some protection, stick with the bokkens and actually strike each other like in Cobu kenjutsu? Real fencing, not steady practice.
sparring is done with bamboo that's lashed together in thin strands - shinai. form practice is typically done with a single piece of heavier wood, with a curved shape - bokken.
your right, kendo does use shinai, however this is kenjutsu. its a martial form from before kendo was created as a sport so traditionally only bokken or even iaito are used. that said, it doesnt mean its wrong to use shinai, since shinai are safer and, well... hurt less :P
Shinai have been used much longer than kendo has existed. It appears that the shinai has been in use since at least the 18th century, although probably earlier. It is a very acceptable tool for kenjutsu practioners as it allows for sparring without injury.
There are several types used in kendo. First there is the boken, or bokutto, which is the aforemmentioned wooden practice sword. Then there is the shinai, which is the bamboo practice sword. then there is a steel practice sword which is basically a blunt katana. Sorry if I get any of this wrong. I don't have formal lessons, so this is what I have picked up from other friends who are like me in their love of swordplay.
I'm trying to understand what kind of style is Kenjutsu, is it Offensive mostly? Or is it defensive? And how do the swords generally move for attack or defense?
I'm really interested in learning Kenjutsu, I've always been amazed with Japanese culture, especially cultures prior to the Meiji and such.
Does anyone have any tips when looking for Kenjutsu schools to join or styles? Advice would really help before I go looking for a school that teaches Kenjutsu.
I live in Phoenix, AZ so I'm sure there's a school around here.
I would suggest eading about the various kenjutsu ryu and decide what style speaks to you. I prefer the hard hitting kashima shinto ryu but you might be more keen to learn yagyu shinkage ryu, which emphasizes speed and timing. Or u might like the flair on niten ichi ryu, which makes use of both katana and wakazashi at the same time. Then look for schools that u dont mind traveling to and search the web for word as to thei credibility. ALWAYS ask around.
hello mightydragon. i'm paolo and i'm filipino. i too have kept my eye on weaponry, preferably sword fights. I enjoy watching rurouni kenshin and it has heavily influenced my childhood. and i can say that i would love to visit japan and learn kenjutsu.
Seeing this video i'm really impressed as i can really appreciate the art as i love mine. I am presently practicing Arnis Defense Silat and Moro Moro Orabes Heneral. Perhaps, after i graduate from college and have already set aside some money, i hope to visit and learn this art too.
Rien qu'à travers ces katas on peut voir la différence entre un entre un sport en salle et un art portant l'experience de milliers de combat. Maitriser un shinaî est très différent de la maitrise d'un bokuto. Quant à la non-utilisation de tsuba, les avantages portent l'art underground du bokuto plus loin encore que l'art du katana. Car le bokuto-jutsu n'en ai qu'au balbutiement. La relève sera bientôt là, avant le prochain crépuscule mondial.
Je suis partiellement d'accord avec vous sur ce point. Vous avez tout à fait raison, maitriser un shinai est très différent de la maîtrise d'un bokuto ou d'un katana. Parcontre, je crois qu'une pratique doit absoluement aboutir à un affrontement (randori/combat) afin de pleinement tester l'esprit, la technique, la distance et le timing. Je crois qu'il existe un terrain d'équilibre entre le kendo et le kenjutsu... pratiquer le kenjutsu avec l'équipement de kendo, pourquoi pas!
im a kendo player.. but after looking at this, i think i would wanna learn kenjutsu! if only u can apply kenjutsu and kendo so u can have the proper 'action' of actually hitting ur opponent in kenjutsu style!
I think Kuroda sensei's speed is amazing, but I felt some these paired katas were not very good demonstrations. The last 3 katas looked like the opponent just bent over and took the cut. Anybody notice this? (again no disrespect intended, just curious)
I do believe you are right, he is just binding over. However I also believe that his modivation behind this is to stay as far away from the on coming hit. What I'm saying is, I think it must become a habit when you train with kuroda sensei. Once you are deflected you must know that your not gonna be able to block or avoid his next hit so the only thing you can do is roll witht he punch LOL. TBH I know nothing about this kind of stuff, so I don't want people to think I'm trying 2 b a know it all.
Have you ever used a bokken compared to a live sword? The weight is different yes, but the feel is even more different. If you have a good sword the sword should be fairly balanced close to the hilt. The bokken's balance point is halfway up the bokken. So the "flow" feels faster and more fluid with a live sword then a bokken. If the physical weight is still a problem, you need to do more practice (I do 1000 cuts a day), using a Suburito is also a great idea.
I have no information about boken, balanced about the middle. I tried to use japanese boken for aikido. It's ballanced about one third to the tsuba as the sword.
Sword "flow" many times faster, but less controled by me. I could hit, but it will be hard to me to stop it about half inch to target. It's hard to do real cut by wrists also. That's why boken cold be better controled by me. That's why I wonder how to do such cuts by sword that twice heavier than boken
The point of ducking in like that is to avoid a suspected attack, which is what Kuroda was feinting to make an opponent believe he could be cut by that attack. Also, since this is a waza, he ducks a bit more to avoid the hit and to amplify the effectiveness of the demonstration. In real combat he would not have ducked so far.
I have 6 years experience in kenjutsu so I understand (enough for this) what goes into these demos.
In Japanese language, when referring to martial arts, a "do" usually means that the practice is for elf improvement, both spiritually and physically, whereas a "jutsu" means the teachings of war. Hence the difference between Kendo and Kenjutsu. Hope this helped!
As it relates to the modern era, Kendo is a specific martial art/sport where one wears heavy armor, uses a bamboo sword & spars in a rules dictated match. Kenjutsu means any Japanese sword martial art that encompasses a combative or sparring aspect. Not all systems practice sparring such as some schools of iaido, therefore they would not be considered kenjutsu.
So, Kendo is a type of kenjutsu. Please keep in mind that this is a very generalized summary.
This answer answer is in very general terms. Kendo is a sport, while still maintaining historic culture and practice, alot of techniques were refined to match the speed and power of the sport. Kenjutsu is best discribed as paired drills of a specific style and in SOME instances teaches the practical use of a styles iaido kata with a partner to better understand the strikes and the target areas. Again this a general explanation, we are talking about a martial art with its own midset and history.
Obviously you don't know what you are talking about.
And as for The Book of Five Rings, it is not religious at all. Maybe if you REALLY read the book and meditated on it you would see that it talks about mind strategy in war and in life. That is not religion.
I have 1 that weighs about 2.5 lbs. Thats the typical weight for a bokken. Also a have one that weighs aboout .7 lbs. I modifyed it to be like that, it's closer to the shape of a sword, without the weight. My normal sized one is made of purple heart wood, and the other one is made of african ebony i think. I'm not sure.
depends on the surface. On wet grass it's probably a very bad idea, as you can slip and fall - and then you die. But there are other surfaces than that, also, there are other techniques you can use, if you must fight on a slippery surface.
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hayek218 1 month ago
I have been studying French Fencing (Epee and Sabre), Kenjujutsu, Escrima, Boxing, Eagle Kung Fu, and Southern Praying Mantis. For 18 years and no where near master all of them, but learning all has given me the ability to look outside of traditional lines. However, mma is the end of training not the beginning. Only after years of training does one break down what is not needed and free spar. Not the other way around. Or something like that.
HandRpuffin 1 month ago
@HandRpuffin : Hi, sorry I'm curious about one thing.... It's not a criticism. But when I see people that did a lot of year of training in 6/7 martial arts..... I always fell me very stupid because usually a lot of time is necessary not to master but only to understand and to use one martial art..... is it not too easy to misunderstand "something"?..... thank you for the attention
francescoyaftehmihan 2 weeks ago
I respect MMA and similar, and I find them very interesting aspects, also technical. What I don't like is to see is to see a great master in a great video that is laughed by people that probably never tried to understand and to practise kenjutsu. People that think that is stupid.. . there was a time that thanks to these schools of sword people survived or died in japan, german, italy, england and so on..... at least before to attack something.... try it!
francescoyaftehmihan 2 months ago
Kenjutsu, kyudo, Bujinkan/Ninjutsu, Kendo, Iaido etc. is material arts from the Japanese Samurai warriors many Japanese material arts/budo have a connection to the popular samurai warriors.
ZZaiBoT2011 4 months ago
what style is this
sonicflam 5 months ago
@sonicflam This technique is from Kuroda Sensei's own personal variations and techniques outside of the Shinbukan Kuroda Dojo's main systems. He does not teach this self created branch
NamiwakiruX 4 months ago
@NamiwakiruX may i ask where you got this information from? id like to learn more about it
Iceberqe 3 weeks ago
@Iceberqe There are plenty of interviews, demonstrations, dvds and material on Kuroda Tetsuzan about the web. Good start would be the Tamiya-ryū and the Shinbukan Kuroda Dojo
NamiwakiruX 2 weeks ago
@Iceberqe I should say I assume this entire demonstration is his own variation based on the first technique he uses, which is fairly well known as one of his famous hidden sword techniques. The ones that follow I couldnt say for sure but would assume them to also be since his student never displays a technique himself. Its common practice in style demonstrations for the student and teacher to alternate, and following his rule to not teach his variant, I think that shows by my former comment
NamiwakiruX 2 weeks ago
The problem was that they don't have shields which limits very much their defense capabilities, romans knew that, that's why they never matched two gladiators fighting two handed against each other... there's nothing to watch in such a match
mik1984 5 months ago
I am not sure about that. Think about it like this: You do not need defense capabilities if you have offense capabilities. Yes, sure for roman gladiators, that is another thing, but in battle or match where nobody wants to watch a perfect match, shield just slow you down. In kenjutsu, kendo, aido and martial art like this, offense is important, defense is for cowards :D
HitaAts 5 months ago
An amazing display of skill!
ImusNoxa 7 months ago
美しい･･･
Nassy881 7 months ago
His student is already extremely skilled....wow.
TheTrismegistos 9 months ago
16 douchebags expected the sword fighting the see in anime.
stingray614 9 months ago
noting samurai
nyanyosya 9 months ago
I must be honest, while the skill and focus of these individuals is strikingly apparent, there are a couple of the counters that I think are a bit of a stretch. In scenario 4 and 6, the deep-crouching overhead slash the student attempts that sensei continuously counters is, in my personal opinion, an unlikely "what if". He sits into the cut too heavily, his range falls short regardless of the sensei's movement, and his foot placement is so wide that he wouldn't be able to return to guard anyway.
0oIcarusComplexo0 9 months ago
@0oIcarusComplexo0 Very well noticed. Like you said, there are many counters that are a bit stretched but like Theparable was stating its a demo to show historic value in their technique, but im more inclined to agree with you. Both are very skilled but if i would say, i would like to see more of the technique than strikes and counters. I want to see how he flows with the forms, how he moves in resonance with his opponent. To show the full effect of their technique... but thats just my opinon.
thechanpionofyugioh 8 months ago
@perrocalientucho
Just like they would fight any enemy - look for an opening in the opponents defence & exploit it.
A shield obstructs weapons from both sides & fighting with 1 is a skill in itself,sure it has its advantages, but it has drawbacks too,eg: it unlikely that you could weild a very long sword with only one hand, this *potentially* means that the "samurai" can stay permanently out of his reach whilst still maintaining an offence.
Like ALL matches, relative skill is most important.
p1t1o 10 months ago
If this video isn't what you wanted to see or its not the sort of martial arts for you, why hate? Just go search for something else?
ALL martial arts can have their efficacy and moral/philosophical history debated, thats part of the fun!
You don't HAVE to be a dick about it :)
And as for this demonstration in particular, the skill of these guys is obvious.
p1t1o 10 months ago
fast! good video!!!! great technique
ttNeosxx 10 months ago
this is just an demonstration but during the Senguko Jidai and Edo Era they train Kenjutsu by sparring for real but they use simple attack techniques so the defender can block the strike and not be injured or killed..............today most Sparring are done in Wooden Katana.
luftwaffe789456123 11 months ago
why are they just randomly pausing?
lolcakesoverlolcats 1 year ago
I get the impression that many of the commentators here don't quite grasp the caliber that Kuroda Tetsuzan Sensei (The older guy) operates at. This was just a public demo, which he's been known to dummy down like we see here.
kumogakuredojo 1 year ago
wow, I've never seen anybody have that much control.
NickBlackDIN 1 year ago
what incredible technique!
MiserVII 1 year ago
Great!
FunnyJapanesePranks 1 year ago
5 stars and thumbs up from me
hiphoplivs 1 year ago
atleast use full strength lame
awesomeguy7778 1 year ago
@awesomeguy7778 Two words, fuck you.
ihaterobbie123 1 year ago
Which ryuha is this?
mikeymarshful 1 year ago
That old guy haven't met his match, yet. Maybe Zoro can kick his ass with 3 swords style. Sword fight is a deadly game. So don't hesitate to steal all the moves. The old guys' quick foot steps motivate him with quick swings, and chops. I wouldn't move forward and wasting energies. I'll stand at one place, and swing my sword as hard as I can.
Tibly 1 year ago
@Tibly Clearly, you've never been in a sword fight. Staying put in one place is the same thing as making yourself a dummy for swinging practice, and also makes you extremely susceptible to being manipulated by feints. Maybe you've watched too much anime or Hollywood movies to tell that something like a three swords style is purely fictional and completely impractical.
Risouten 1 year ago
@Risouten. Sorry for my sharp words. I didn't mean to offend you.
you are not strong enough to be my match. You would have been dead, already. Well, you will probably kill yourself before any1 kills you.
Tibly 1 year ago
@Tibly Nope, you just amuse me. Keep trying, kid.
Risouten 1 year ago
@Tibly listen zoro is gay. jin is the best dude. and if you stand in one place you will be killed .please that anime bullshit does not work all the time even if i dont agree with this swordplay style i must respect it for its abilities and advantages. i would gladly verse you in person but your location is irrelevant.
HALFmoonSHADOW187 1 year ago
@Risouten - Clearly & obviously. If Tibly ever discovered Fudōshin, he'd probably think that it was a character in one of his anime shows. Or, if he "trained" hard enough at it, he'd be a Samurai just like he taught himself how to master the "three swords style" by simply standing still. Huh? I guess in his defense I heard those shows are pretty realistic & if he's paying attention, who knows maybe he'll "teach" us a thing or two :) Anyway, well put comment.
sf10th77 1 year ago
@Risouten Exactly. From the German manuscript HS 3227a: "But before all things, remember that you should not remain too long in one guard. Liechtenauer has a saying "He who is still, is dead, he who moves will live". And from these guards comes the understanding that you should move in swordplay, and not wait in a guard and thus waste your chance."
Kunstdesfechtens 1 year ago 5
dam... he's fast
jung567 1 year ago
@Takeda85 lol no problem and enjoy as Iai is a hell of a lot of fun once you get past the beginer phase
stonehartfloydfan 1 year ago
people who leave comment have a high chance of coming off extremly weird it seems.
touchtheONEpower 1 year ago
Sweet.
VegaEtereo 1 year ago
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I'm an expert on kenjutsu, and they are all very very similar. All dojos must utilize the most efficient and effective techniques, so the only factor is how good u r. Takes years of training, learn from Japanese sensei. This guy is very good, calm, collected, in control. Very dangerous swordsman. I can take him, but only if he attacks first, and no way in hell I'm gonna cut him first, he'll just use it against me like I would against him. We'll just stand there for hours waiting ......
shizensamurai 1 year ago
that wouldn't make for a very exciting dual, but I know what you mean its much easier to counter than attack first. I think thats the case in most arts
OBrien19 1 year ago
What ??? you claim to be his source of threat and competition,Granted it could be possible to just have what we call today a 'Stand Off'
Yet in Ancient Times if neither moved towards the Katana to make an planned attack the liklihood of both walking away was very high.If either was to attack it was usually mutual slaying.Fact most duels ended this way,Blocking with the Katana was considered bad form,So example a duel was usually just one swift cut. Which hence almost led to mutual slayin
Jahleim72Amaya 1 year ago
@Jahleim72Amaya you're both wrong
itsumonihon 1 year ago
@shizensamurai
An expert hm.....
Me thinks he does protest too much.
And how many men have you slain with your sword made from Tamahagane?
sazen9 1 year ago
wtf O.o is this...competitive?
omg1836 2 years ago
Anyone know what that stance is called where the sword is held parallel to the floor at head level?
gwalla 2 years ago
@gwalla are they sparring or is this like planned ahead
Blackshinobi352 2 years ago
It's kata, not sparring. No sane person spars with a bokuto and no armor.
gwalla 2 years ago 13
I doubt this is kata
tudorvickings 1 year ago
then again, it might be :)
tudorvickings 1 year ago
Yep. Ive seen them do the same set of movements in other videos and in the same order. There arent many of them so maybe he doesnt show the more advanced techniques.
LotusDragon09 1 year ago
@LotusDragon09 if you want to see more you have to come to saitama and train with him :)
itsumonihon 1 year ago
@tudorvickings maybe the kata is too lifelike =)
izzazalexander 1 year ago
The Kuroda family kenjutsu style,does anyone know what era the techniques originate from? They look very much like "Sengoku Jidai" sword work because of the low stances and hunched over kamae good for use while in yoroi. Just speculation though. Anyone?
EishinRyu 2 years ago
Interesting question. I'm not an expert, but it's difficult to know the exact origin because, many schools shared a basis, very old and not formally formulated. In fact, many Yoroi related techniques are present in all styles, based on what i've heard from my former sensei. The Tate iza position is an example. I think we both should return to the study of Seitei Iai, the extract of all schools!! :)
Good luck!
solnegrolunaroja 2 years ago
Excellent! This is very precise kenjutsu. Kuroda Sensei is a true master.
Haku92292 2 years ago
KENJUTSU!
SuperKenjutsu 2 years ago
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Color me not impressed, this looks choreographed.
ryan8723 2 years ago
Well maybe because it is. If they were out to have a real fight then one of them would be in the hospital very quickly, (and you can bet it wouldn't be the elder/sensei). You need to be aware that this is a demonstration of a style. In demonstrations it's important that people can see what you're doing. What you see here is far older and more for audiences who can appreciate the histories behind it. If you want real(ish) fights go watch that ufc trash.
Theparableof0 2 years ago 63
Well said, not all people realise what is going on. its like a game of chess with posture and stance, even before you are in striking distance or execute a technique.
PalebobUK 2 years ago
@Theparableof0
real(ish) as in real in the ring...but not on the streets, and certainly not in everyday life.
guys, find a martial art that exercises body, soul and spirit.
God bless ;)
dragonking700 1 year ago
@dragonking700 That was kind of my point. My comment was toward the idiots who watch these and try and get their jollies by laughing at real martial arists because the people like Kuroda Sensei aren't muscle bound, flying through the air, wielding two swords at once, throwing shuriken and moving faster than light. My "ufc trash" statement is actually how I view the UFC. People who watch it are just as retarded if they think that is how they're going to win fights.
Theparableof0 1 year ago
@Theparableof0
oh yeah, I wasn't disagreeing with you or anything...you're totally right ;)
dragonking700 1 year ago
@dragonking700 Ah, my sincere apologies then. It's really hard to see when people are using sarcasm or not, online. But, glad to see we agree.
PS I love this videeo.
Theparableof0 1 year ago
@Theparableof0
yeah, i hate it when people expect you to be patient when you have like a thousand videos and thousands of subscribers and are reviewing thausands of comments a day...not that i have any of that lol.
yup, cool vid.
dragonking700 1 year ago
@Theparableof0 If you are referring to all of mma when you say " that ufc trash" then you are either very closed minded or you have no understanding of hand to hand combat.
blackhughes 1 year ago
@blackhughes open your mind.........he was talking about the UFC which is being Aired in TV and not MMA...........maybe you are the closed minded one.
luftwaffe789456123 11 months ago
@luftwaffe789456123 please man there is a lot of MMA on TV other than UFC, Theparableof0 just did not take the time to learn about MMA.... Why are you defending this guy ?? Im sure the guy is a grown man ??? and its not like Im hating on the video...
blackhughes 11 months ago
@Theparableof0 ufc (although prideFC was better) isnt trash its got nothing to do with sword play. why bring that into it, there is alot of skill on show here and professional mixed martial artists are also very skillfull to disrespect people who compete in tournaments testing their skills against each other is to disrespect martial arts as a whole. in the past swordsmen competed (and killed) each other in tournaments for money and fame. dissing MMA'ists says more about you than them.
kungfufreddy 11 months ago
@kungfufreddy
Thank you for educating all who read your comment. Pride is/was huge to the Samurai, and they were paid for their work, so what makes them any different? Honor is a word that has limited use in combat, or, it is defined according to the misguided one making the comment. True Honor is allowing your enemy to live. Honor is being the greater warrior by killing your own ego instead of the other person.
See! I just redefined it! It's that useless.
CitizenNomad 11 months ago
@CitizenNomad thankyou!
kungfufreddy 11 months ago
@Theparableof0 stop being an elitist prick. ufc fighters are excellent fighters, trained in a lot of arts. but i guess an ignorant redneck like you believe they are a bunch of bums picked up from the streets and put in a cage like gladiators
TheViolenceMan 10 months ago
@Theparableof0 Nice summary on the demo... but why would you call UFC - trash? Those guys train day in and day out and should deserve more respect from the real fight appreciators like you are.
orelenok 4 months ago
@orelenok Indeed, its not often you find people who understand the differences, and more importantly, the similarity between traditional and modern forms of martial application. Either purists lagging on MMA or UFC fan boys lagging on the usefulness of older forms and using outdated Kung Fu film ideals as a base of hate. MMA is born from the martial arts that people have deemed outdated and if they spent some time overseas they'd see MMA and Trad styles enjoy a mutual beneficial relationship
NamiwakiruX 3 months ago
@orelenok Though....it pains me to say Im more often defending traditional styles from some of the more rabid, uneducated UFC fanboys who make up a large % of the naysayers than defending "proper" MMA outlets.
NamiwakiruX 3 months ago
It's supposed to be choreographed. They're going through a set of pre-planned attack and defense techniques to show different movements and principals of their art. This isn't a "real" fight, it's entirely staged and done with full intent of not actually hitting the other person.
TheGreySentinel 2 years ago 4
It's a demo you idiot..
Crim15 2 years ago 3
agreed, this is not a form of murder, like swordmanship is
retrogamerdave 2 years ago
i dont know what to make of it. i guess i need to know a lot more about the art.
it DOES look like one of those many many demos out there where the sensei's assistant takes falls out of pure expectation. seems like there was a lot of mutual blows. but like I said I don't really know the intent of this demonstration. I can't assume it's a "look how invincible i am" thing
EvilStreaks 2 years ago
That's part of the deal. It's a pre-arranged sequence designed to show the principles of the Art. In some (but by no means all) classical kenjutsu schools, teachers occaisionally change the kata "on the fly" to test the student's reactions. EIther that or the kata are performed with increasing resistance over time. This isn't what they're doing here though. :)
Kunstdesfechtens 2 years ago
Yes. You should make some research.
ptlofts 2 years ago
AIUI this kata is about feints. Each technique begins with a feinted attack, which prompts a defensive reaction that creates an opening elsewhere, and flows immediately into a true attack that takes advantage of that opening.
Really beautiful movement.
gwalla 2 years ago
Do Iaido then if you want to learn more. Good for the mind as well as your Kendo.
stonehartfloydfan 2 years ago
damn
Matt6Ran95 2 years ago
как самбо превалирует над дзю-до во всех формах(исключения удушающие) , так шырокая европейская шпага доминирует над самурайским мечом.технические данные у шпаги намного выше.
viterfurer 2 years ago
ive never taken any training in any art nevermind the art of the sword and even i can see it makes more sense to not hit your opponent in training it makes it harder because you will not only have to try and strike your opponent but also have the control to stop before you hit them
ShadowWolf64456 2 years ago
Yes there is that and also after two or three nights of training a week if you did get hit all the time you would be so sore that you could not do the training.
stonehartfloydfan 2 years ago
Samurai fighting syles are as plentiful as the stars. I have been in the art of the sword for 15 years and have seen more varieties and techniques than you can shake a stick at. But lets face it the common goal is the same destroy the opponent without concern for self preservation and with as much speed as possible. Samurai duels rarley last 30 seconds and that is the way of the warrior.
tetrodotoxiification 2 years ago 3
ignorant ppl should shuttup.. to perfect a technique takes ages why would one slash an aponent i feel u have missunderstood our practice completly go eat a burger n watch smackdown u ignoramus...
stockholmsfynest 2 years ago
in training people actually don't touch, but that takes more control and is in my opinion better then hitting the. you get more out of it.
olliemasta 2 years ago 2
I think both approaches have merit. Obviously it is slightly different with a bokken because the strikes hurt, which limits how hard you can strike. There is also a lot to be gained mentally through the repetition of kata and the control it takes to pull the strike short. But if you're aiming for real combat effectiveness, in any art, there is a danger that if you always aim short in practice you will also aim short when it matters.
presseno 2 years ago
Kuroda sensei is one of the best, if not (handsdown) the best swordman alive nowadys. Even an average dude with a gun wouldn't stand a chance against him.
haaxeboys 2 years ago
This is excellent kenjutsu technique, but its not that exciting for the 21st century. Why not wear some protection, stick with the bokkens and actually strike each other like in Cobu kenjutsu? Real fencing, not steady practice.
SenseiAndyTengu 2 years ago
its a demonstration u dumbass!!!
DikkiSeamen 2 years ago
let's face it guys... this video would hit 1 million views
if they were using real swords and fightging to the death.. .:P
richie8811 2 years ago 8
to be honest, u are right
but the problem is that it would be a video of just 5 seconds
DanteValentino2000 2 years ago 33
then the bald guy would slice off the other guys arms legs and then head XD
fgzf 2 years ago
admit it... it'd be 1 billion... not 1 million..
yangtz 2 years ago
But it'll take 28 seconds.
Quite a short video then.
ekhonode 2 years ago
Who would have fought to the death only because of a youtube-video?
zyclox 2 years ago 2
Any particular reason their swords were placed on the ground before they knelt down to bow? Reishiki?
Fangen88 2 years ago
yes it's the Reishiki
msaitto 2 years ago
Its actual a bokken
Airwinz 2 years ago
Just a question, what kind of katana is used in kendo? Is it basically a wooden sword or something like that?
Katana991 2 years ago
i think it is made out of bambo
hmongyajboi 2 years ago
sparring is done with bamboo that's lashed together in thin strands - shinai. form practice is typically done with a single piece of heavier wood, with a curved shape - bokken.
tynam 2 years ago 2
your right, kendo does use shinai, however this is kenjutsu. its a martial form from before kendo was created as a sport so traditionally only bokken or even iaito are used. that said, it doesnt mean its wrong to use shinai, since shinai are safer and, well... hurt less :P
robeeri 2 years ago
Shinai have been used much longer than kendo has existed. It appears that the shinai has been in use since at least the 18th century, although probably earlier. It is a very acceptable tool for kenjutsu practioners as it allows for sparring without injury.
jmoulder 2 years ago 4
There are several types used in kendo. First there is the boken, or bokutto, which is the aforemmentioned wooden practice sword. Then there is the shinai, which is the bamboo practice sword. then there is a steel practice sword which is basically a blunt katana. Sorry if I get any of this wrong. I don't have formal lessons, so this is what I have picked up from other friends who are like me in their love of swordplay.
AceVendetta 2 years ago 3
The shinai used is made from four pieces of 'madake' a variety of bamboo. The bokken used for 'kata' is made from wood.
Peekingduck 2 years ago 2
shinai
kamikuzukonran 2 years ago
I'm trying to understand what kind of style is Kenjutsu, is it Offensive mostly? Or is it defensive? And how do the swords generally move for attack or defense?
PhantomRolePlayer 2 years ago
It's a matter of technique, It can either start offensive or defensive, but usually ends otherwise for the latter. The same is said for the Sword..
Crim15 2 years ago
Wer did dis take place?
FlyingNunchuck84 2 years ago
Paris, FRANCE
romsan 2 years ago
I don't mean to be disrespectful, but why did the bald guy jump in the first technique in that strange way?
LiutendantJack777 2 years ago
He just skipped, the hakama often misleads the opponent using the fabric..
Crim15 2 years ago
I'm really interested in learning Kenjutsu, I've always been amazed with Japanese culture, especially cultures prior to the Meiji and such.
Does anyone have any tips when looking for Kenjutsu schools to join or styles? Advice would really help before I go looking for a school that teaches Kenjutsu.
I live in Phoenix, AZ so I'm sure there's a school around here.
JiraiyaXXX 3 years ago
I would suggest eading about the various kenjutsu ryu and decide what style speaks to you. I prefer the hard hitting kashima shinto ryu but you might be more keen to learn yagyu shinkage ryu, which emphasizes speed and timing. Or u might like the flair on niten ichi ryu, which makes use of both katana and wakazashi at the same time. Then look for schools that u dont mind traveling to and search the web for word as to thei credibility. ALWAYS ask around.
mightydagon 2 years ago
hello mightydragon. i'm paolo and i'm filipino. i too have kept my eye on weaponry, preferably sword fights. I enjoy watching rurouni kenshin and it has heavily influenced my childhood. and i can say that i would love to visit japan and learn kenjutsu.
teablack8 2 years ago
Seeing this video i'm really impressed as i can really appreciate the art as i love mine. I am presently practicing Arnis Defense Silat and Moro Moro Orabes Heneral. Perhaps, after i graduate from college and have already set aside some money, i hope to visit and learn this art too.
teablack8 2 years ago
I didn't saw the swords lying on the floor at the beginning :P
LarsLeenders 3 years ago
Rien qu'à travers ces katas on peut voir la différence entre un entre un sport en salle et un art portant l'experience de milliers de combat. Maitriser un shinaî est très différent de la maitrise d'un bokuto. Quant à la non-utilisation de tsuba, les avantages portent l'art underground du bokuto plus loin encore que l'art du katana. Car le bokuto-jutsu n'en ai qu'au balbutiement. La relève sera bientôt là, avant le prochain crépuscule mondial.
Crysideo 3 years ago
Je suis partiellement d'accord avec vous sur ce point. Vous avez tout à fait raison, maitriser un shinai est très différent de la maîtrise d'un bokuto ou d'un katana. Parcontre, je crois qu'une pratique doit absoluement aboutir à un affrontement (randori/combat) afin de pleinement tester l'esprit, la technique, la distance et le timing. Je crois qu'il existe un terrain d'équilibre entre le kendo et le kenjutsu... pratiquer le kenjutsu avec l'équipement de kendo, pourquoi pas!
Ryokushindo 3 years ago
im a kendo player.. but after looking at this, i think i would wanna learn kenjutsu! if only u can apply kenjutsu and kendo so u can have the proper 'action' of actually hitting ur opponent in kenjutsu style!
jiyefuuu 3 years ago
these people are geniuses... AZN PRIDE
shawn1818668 3 years ago
Quelle maîtrise du sabre... Impressionnant.
M00nset 3 years ago
immagin a criminal try to attack kuroda sensei in a street:)
bebbo170993 3 years ago 2
instant Darwin award.
Namiwakiru 3 years ago 2
I think Kuroda sensei's speed is amazing, but I felt some these paired katas were not very good demonstrations. The last 3 katas looked like the opponent just bent over and took the cut. Anybody notice this? (again no disrespect intended, just curious)
tshong 3 years ago
I do believe you are right, he is just binding over. However I also believe that his modivation behind this is to stay as far away from the on coming hit. What I'm saying is, I think it must become a habit when you train with kuroda sensei. Once you are deflected you must know that your not gonna be able to block or avoid his next hit so the only thing you can do is roll witht he punch LOL. TBH I know nothing about this kind of stuff, so I don't want people to think I'm trying 2 b a know it all.
fireman3955 3 years ago
motivation* with the*
fireman3955 3 years ago
His speed is amazing. But it will be hard to do with shinto as for me, 'cause shinto weight is double against boken
KievAMF 3 years ago
Have you ever used a bokken compared to a live sword? The weight is different yes, but the feel is even more different. If you have a good sword the sword should be fairly balanced close to the hilt. The bokken's balance point is halfway up the bokken. So the "flow" feels faster and more fluid with a live sword then a bokken. If the physical weight is still a problem, you need to do more practice (I do 1000 cuts a day), using a Suburito is also a great idea.
kitsune511 3 years ago
I have no information about boken, balanced about the middle. I tried to use japanese boken for aikido. It's ballanced about one third to the tsuba as the sword.
Sword "flow" many times faster, but less controled by me. I could hit, but it will be hard to me to stop it about half inch to target. It's hard to do real cut by wrists also. That's why boken cold be better controled by me. That's why I wonder how to do such cuts by sword that twice heavier than boken
KievAMF 3 years ago
To tshong
The point of ducking in like that is to avoid a suspected attack, which is what Kuroda was feinting to make an opponent believe he could be cut by that attack. Also, since this is a waza, he ducks a bit more to avoid the hit and to amplify the effectiveness of the demonstration. In real combat he would not have ducked so far.
I have 6 years experience in kenjutsu so I understand (enough for this) what goes into these demos.
kitsune511 3 years ago 2
The Komagawa Kaishin ryu katas are real moving meditation.., very deep and elegant.
Beautiful.
Beneconsebeneinsieme 3 years ago
its incredible! try to see this video before and after red the book of five rings:its totally different!
bebbo170993 3 years ago
does any one know the name of the style that this is?
Mushashi123456 3 years ago
Komagawa Kaishin ryu kenjutsu
romsan 3 years ago
well but first the samurai has to ready to die. That what will be the first lesson
kamezodo1 3 years ago
musashi said he usually fight with nomal footstep like he's walking on the street
kamezodo1 3 years ago 3
It is amazing witnessing Kuroda Senseï in action. i wish I lived in an area that taught his style.
waywardsage 3 years ago
sugoi!
DarthMorbius1977 3 years ago
sorry cn somebody tell me the main differents betwn kendo and kenjutsu?
bebbo170993 3 years ago
In Japanese language, when referring to martial arts, a "do" usually means that the practice is for elf improvement, both spiritually and physically, whereas a "jutsu" means the teachings of war. Hence the difference between Kendo and Kenjutsu. Hope this helped!
Hiro25 3 years ago 3
As it relates to the modern era, Kendo is a specific martial art/sport where one wears heavy armor, uses a bamboo sword & spars in a rules dictated match. Kenjutsu means any Japanese sword martial art that encompasses a combative or sparring aspect. Not all systems practice sparring such as some schools of iaido, therefore they would not be considered kenjutsu.
So, Kendo is a type of kenjutsu. Please keep in mind that this is a very generalized summary.
tomurso 3 years ago 2
This answer answer is in very general terms. Kendo is a sport, while still maintaining historic culture and practice, alot of techniques were refined to match the speed and power of the sport. Kenjutsu is best discribed as paired drills of a specific style and in SOME instances teaches the practical use of a styles iaido kata with a partner to better understand the strikes and the target areas. Again this a general explanation, we are talking about a martial art with its own midset and history.
Namiwakiru 3 years ago
Obviously all of you havent read - The Book of Five Rings by Miyamoto Musashi.
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ptlofts 3 years ago
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so what japanese sword styles are very pretty but useless in practice and the books of the five rings is no more than religious mambo jumbo
pacogimanes 3 years ago
correction. you're all mambo jumbo! :)
ptlofts 3 years ago
You are obviously entitled to your opinion but I think that over a million practitioners & scholars would disagree with you.
tomurso 3 years ago 2
"useless in practice"........ha!!!
Obviously you don't know what you are talking about.
And as for The Book of Five Rings, it is not religious at all. Maybe if you REALLY read the book and meditated on it you would see that it talks about mind strategy in war and in life. That is not religion.
roqShinobi 3 years ago 3
Intense speed and control. Modern day warrior, eh?
Yakzur 3 years ago
just wondering....how much does a bokken usually weigh?
memphadon 3 years ago
I have 1 that weighs about 2.5 lbs. Thats the typical weight for a bokken. Also a have one that weighs aboout .7 lbs. I modifyed it to be like that, it's closer to the shape of a sword, without the weight. My normal sized one is made of purple heart wood, and the other one is made of african ebony i think. I'm not sure.
MrSax3000 3 years ago
THIS is Budo.
Urbaneus 3 years ago
speed is not everything. Just relax your whole body and feel the sword...
kamezodo1 3 years ago
jumping aside its very bad
on a real duel.
ptlofts 3 years ago
depends on the surface. On wet grass it's probably a very bad idea, as you can slip and fall - and then you die. But there are other surfaces than that, also, there are other techniques you can use, if you must fight on a slippery surface.
losNinja 3 years ago
is hard see in this video, but he has already cuted when he jump aside
bebbo170993 3 years ago
Try to imagine Kuroda sensei fighting with kendoka :D He would be unbeatable with his speed and precission :D
Great vid!
basilolo 3 years ago 3
huumm... dont think so.
ptlofts 3 years ago
dang... he is f***in unbelievable...
nadang714 3 years ago
I don't know much about this martial art but watching it is like watching poetry in motion.
v8shark 3 years ago 3