Oxford Evensong 8/6/2006 - 2 Hymns

[astrolog7000]

What are the names of these hymns? Does anyone have the words or know where I can find them? I have not heard them before.

[xenosmousikos]

Great hymn-leading technique! A well-known concert organist told me of helping audition a candidate for an organ position. He told the auditionee to turn to a certain hymn, adding "And please play verse 2." The candidate turned and said, "What difference does that make?" "Never mind," replied the auditioner. "You've already answered the question." He would have strongly approved of this rendition.

[bestminstrel]

This is absolutely wonderful, thank you so very much for posting, it is so nice to sit and listen and not have to play, a true worshipful experience indeed...not that playing hymns is not a worshipful experience. Thanks so much for posting!

[JusticeRW]

I love both of these hymns and tunes. If you ever do a tour to New Zealand, you are welcome in my Church- we have a fabulous Choir and so everyone would welcome you with open arms! Thank you for posting.

[organist12345]

Neo-classical organs in these types of institutions are unsuiting and horrible! Especially rieger organs! Too agressive!

[Xfranman]

Thanks for this anglicanorganistjohn. It brings tears to my eyes. Tears of relief. I am a proud and happy Roman Catholic (one of them Papists) I agree with the post below. How can such beauty inspire words of vitriol. God forgive them. Praise Him!

[twolefthanz]

Whats wrong with listening to the organ. Singing may not have been that great. The organist is using the rests to hear what is going on down there. Well done John - very crisp and organised keyboard work. Good intro and and postlude. Good that you pulled everything out at the end.

[Episcopalian1990]

this is THE BEST version of Praise to the Lord i have ever heard! :)

[PisgahHiker]

Thank you so much for once again posting spiritually uplifting music. I really appreciate your channel.

[Sonnedude]

Very beautiful. I'm a happy Anglican!

[yvonne875]

I love this song as an anglican i am happy to have found . It reminded me how we would sing it back home at St Ann's Parish church in Barbados .

[hdiylove7]

Thanks.

[VlilV]

r u sure u r allowed to film this

[1401JSC]

The Napoleonic wars lasted until 1815. The British Slave Trade Act (making it illegal) dates from 1807, although the abolition of slavery waited until 1833, after agreements had been signed with more than 50 African rulers not to provide slaves for sale.

Why should I hate you, gondola?

You just haven't read the right bools!

[Gazbar100]

The organ - agree- leave the case - pipes - melt them, and produce something which sounds less like bagpipes. The two introductions - poor. The first hymn - why have we got 6 beats at the end of the verses and one between the verses - this is three at the end, three in between - or two at the end and one in between - Hey Captain Morgan on a da Organ u keen dued !! Go da Morgan - u off the good ship Venus ? It is not the standard of a decent parish church, certainly not Oxford.

[1401JSC]

Is the tempo the same for these two hymns?

Glorious things: words by the reverend John Newton (1725-1807), who got rich in the slave trade.

[gondolacrescent5]

If you read Newtons biography you'll learn quite the opposite was true. He realized it was wrong and gave it up altogether.

After Britain finished off Napoleon a sizable portion of the Royal Navy was apportioned to the task of destroying the slave trade. It took time, but they did the job.

People and institutions CAN change for motives that are unselfish and even contrary to self or national interest. How? The beneficial influence of Christianity and Christians. Do you now hate me? Why?

[1401JSC]

Newton's biography tells us that he experienced a christian conversion in 1748, although he'd been brought up a noconformist Christian.

Nevertheless he was captain of three more slave ships untiol 1754, and only stopped because of severe illness.

He only pursued profit and promotion for most of his life. Which pays best? Methodist or Presbyterian minister or Anglican curate with a substantial bonus from a noble admirer?

His profitable published apology came more than 35 years later.

[choirboy526]

well said

[Rickyrab]

Why do certain religions like to use organs instead of emphasizing the human voice? What's wrong with pianos and guitars, which are softer?

[1401JSC]

Euh... il n'y avait pas bcp de guitares (surtout électriques) il y a 2000 ans ni il y a 600!  :)

[Rickyrab]

Um, lutes and "kitharas" came before church organs, if I'm not mistaken....

[1401JSC]

For Jewish religion, we have a list in Psalm 150.

However, I suppose that Rickygab's question was inspired by this clip rather than by historical considerations.

[gareth195]

What's wrong is that they sound crap in a church setting compared to the mightly sonorities of an organ

[Tritimium]

It depends on the music, and the tradition. Organs seem to lead traditional-style hymn singing more effectively than pianos and guitars, whereas pianos and guitars are better for leading more modern worship songs. Also, organs provide a much greater range of dynamic and tonal variety than any other instrument, other than an orchestra, and so, in the hands of a skilled organist, are more effective at conveying the meaning of the words through the sheer variety of sounds they can achieve.

[praisethelord333]

i love the anglican hymns..... last sunday i played my first anglican service on organ here in germany....

[iubanne]

bist du catholic?

[praisethelord333]

Ja ich bin katholisch, allerdings liberal-katholisch.

Yes i am catholic, but liberal catholic. i want come back to rome to all the chuches and saint peter, but i play also organ in protestant and oldcatholic and anglican churches. i see the pluralism as a present of god!

[horses1]

I am glad that all of this music is shared on the Internet. I am not so glad that there is so much vitrol and anger surrounding such things.

[Qcumber]

LOL It's "hear! hear!" :)

[choirboy526]

there should of at least been a descant at the end

[anglicanorganistjohn]

I shan't argue with your sentiment - your grammar perhaps. . . .

[organisten]

@choirboy526 should HAVE!!!!!!

[cantleysugar]

@choirboy526 And you should of paid attention at school..

[thesummerlover]

Have mercy! Please leave the case, remove all the pipes, melt the metal, then create something more musical and pleasing to listen to.  Blaring reeds, shrill mixtures, chiffy articulation, and small scaling does no choir or congregation any musical or artistical justice. Sheesh.

[choirboy526]

That organist is terrible

[tscanny90]

agreed. the organ AND the organist aren't that good.

[choirboy526]

Those are some pretty lame/terrible interludes...

[JTB1956]

@tscanny90 I belong to a church which gave up by whim most of the traditional hymns and service. I would be thrilled to hear and sing them again to this accompaniment , however flawed you judge it to be. Now I understand what "casting pearls" means

[Ophicleide4]

I really don't like that organ. The Old H and H was far better. Still the Case remains...This one needs a Tuba and Ophicliede back..

[diaphoneman]

Some dufus "recording engineer" placed the mics right in front of the organ. The choir didn't have a chance. God save us from amateur audio. . .

[anglicanorganistjohn]

The dufus "recording engineer" didn't have a choice in microphone placement. God save us from amateur critics.

[Applet2]

I like the organ dominance in the recording! More organ music please! (with or without choir)

[Knappa22]

Nice hymns. Ghastly organ - sounds like it's made of plywood.

[34045]

I somewhat agree. Christchurch's organ is a Rieger instrumeent. It has a wonderful case, but I don't think it's console or sounds do it justice. It has no really high pressure Tuba's or anything similar, which is a pity.

[Knappa22]

A lot of organs have this clunky sound now - especially new or restored organs at Oxbridge colleges :(

I prefer a more ecclesiastical "romantic" sound myself.

[gbolagun]

beautiful hymns for worshipping our Great God. thanks for uploading this service for our enjoyment and worship.

[anglicanbeachparty]

Thank you for posting. I like it very much.

[lustful2]

Interesting use of extemporisation by the Organist ! The Choir I thought sang well. Never really like the Rieger Organ in this Cathedral. It is sad fact that oxford no longer has any romantic pipe organs. Most churches have this neo classical sound .

[34045]

What about St Clement's-or what is left of it!!

[wr1830]

Egads! What sort of sour introduction was that to "Lobe Den Herren"? Other than the introduction, the rest of "Lobe.." sounded very good.

[wr1830]

Is this and Anglican or Catholic choir? I am not sure from the comments already stated.

[MassimoofItalia]

Anglican.

[dejs66]

Anglican and proud!

[wr1830]

Covenanted Presbyterian and proud

[wr1830]

That is, I am Covenaned Presbyterian.

[wr1830]

Though I have heard "Glorious Things..." in softer, more graceful setting; this stronger, more majestic setting is very pleasing and inspiring.

[theblackhand2]

The choir stalls look very much like those in King's Chapel in England.

[edders05]

King's Cambridge? They don't really look anything like them!

[pollybleekr]

I came across this searching for "Lobe den Herren". Very beautiful and moving! Thanks.

[CanCatholic]

At the Oratory of St. Philip Neri in Toronto (Catholic), they sometimes sing the O Salutaris Hostia and Tantum Ergo Sacramentum during Benediction to the tune of the first hymn. It is beautiful!

[lockerby]

Interesting use of Abbot's Leigh instead of Austria.

[marnanel]

Oh, I should read the caption at the start. Sorry.

[marnanel]

Where is this-- the cathedral?

[davidmiler12]

holy trinity cathedral

[marnanel]

I think you misunderstood my question. The choir are from Holy Trinity Cathedral in Missouri, but I was asking where in Oxford this was.

[aardvark154]

I believe it is Christ Church Cathedral, Oxford

Unique in that it is both the Chapel for Christ Church College and the Cathedral of the Diocese of Oxford.

[scottbeme]

I don't like the clippity clop of that introduction either.

[elizabetheo]

Did it ever occur to you that the internet is not exactly the best place to hear something like this? I was a member of the choir that sang at Oxford as the resident choir for a week last year, and I can tell you that what you are hearing is nothing like the real sound. The "clippity clop" was totally different from what one heard in the choir stall.

[alanwm1978]

Intro to Abbots Leigh not good.

[nathanfornash]

What's that rubbish intro to Praise to the Lord?

[anglicanorganistjohn]

Sorry you don't care for it. Blame Richard Proulx.

[nathanfornash]

Richard Prole?

[anglicanorganistjohn]

Proulx. Formerly Director of Music at the Roman Catholic Cathedral in Chicago, now retired.

[kingjordana]

A very reedy organ.

[LynneMezzo]

Abbots Leigh is a marvelous tune; I had the pleasure of meeting its composer Cyril Taylor at a Southern Cathedrals Festival many years ago. Lovely man.