ya!240 for life!!!!i hav 2 of it one for me n another for my big bro~
my big bro using B230FK engine for his 240 n my 240 using stock engine(some 2.0 carburetor nonturbo) wit adjustable absorber n wit LSD for drifting~~~~ =P
actually the engine in the 240T was the B21ET.(2,1L, 155hp in stock spec)
It's very similar to the B23ET which came in the first 760 Turbo (2,3L, 185hp)
both engines have forged internals, the blocks are very strong: cast iron shortblock, heads are aluminium with OHC shim & bucket setup. Very simple and durable)
The 240T GrA racecar used to run 285km/h down 'Conrod straight' at Bathurst. (Francevic, Bowe)
B23ET is a Turbocharged 182Hp engine from aprox 80-90, so if i am to belive the duel V70R - 23ET nonturbo, please post engine specs!!!!!! :P
but YES, volvo turboengines are the best, and can take more beating than most other brands. often seen in race\drift bmw's and other just becouse of volvos stamina during max power usage.
one example is f.ex. manta magic on youtube.
Opel Manta\Vauxhall Manta tuned with a compressor(?) AND Turbo, 16V!
volvo have some awsome engines for turbo tuning.. one of the best for 4cylinder turbo.. peopel use them it other car becose they are fucking awsome.. have seen a race where a tuned 700hp volvo 240 turbo beat a porsche 911..
that volvo 240 turbo is a group A modded car! thats why its so fast and brutal! its made to go like that! many replikas buildt here in norway nowdays!
Why can no one accept that the volvo 240 is a great car? You can pull about 1000 hp of an B23ET engine and if you don´t belie me google it!! I have 3 of my own and they haven´t let me down anyway. one of them won a race from 0-100kmh against a V70R and thats without turbo . Compete that !!
Actionall,if you look how much times Volvo was a winner these chapmionships,you'd see,that it has by no means a comparissom with BMW.I know Wikipedia is not perfect,but
Search 'Rover V8 SD1 story' on youtube. It's a 7 part documentary about the Volvo 240 and Rover SD1's in the ETCC. Volvo was a very hard car to beat!!
Hanswurst, your argument isn't worth dick. You are thee perfect example of an 'internet tough guy'. Post some VIDEOS of your own legit vehicles going around a track or shut your mouth.
One more thing...The new BMW 335 CI has a twin turbo engine.After 25 years bmw engeneers FINALLY acepted the turbo surperiority...oh and not only volvo but Turbo volvo is life
apart from the 2002 turbo & the formula 1 engines for brabham in the"turbo era" .... But hey, that was a great clip of some great cars doing some great racing.
u told us a reality but when engine(has no turbo) blows and engine(with turbo) doesn't blow and run out of gas this tell us how volvo engine is taugh more than BMW's
Man these ARE RACING cars!Of course they´re all modified!The Volvo is faster end of question.If you want to win races start with the fastest car.What make won for years in a row the ETCC in the e80´s? Against V12XJS V8SD1 V8BMW´s.how many cars could keep the pace with those cars-in real life-with a family+luggage-for 1/3 of the price?Ok it´s a Turbo engine!Doesn´t this means a more tech developed car? Early 80´sTURBO ERA!BMW had a turbo late 70´s 2002Turbo(171 hp).
i am so amazed about ur comment, u said what i wanna say that they r all modified but in comparison i checked up the final results of this race and i found that BMW 635 csi had blown its engine but volvo was out of fuel so finaly thanx alot gonbugas
Look man, I'm not knocking Volvos, especially not the old ones. I'd love to have a Turbo-Brick. I know these cars have incredible potential, and have wonderful Parts-interchangeability. I have worked extensively on them. All I'm saying is the stock Vehicles can't compare, and that's where its at. I have to accept the same for BMW's VS most Japanese cars. Jap cars (stock) are simply faster (generally) than stock BMWs (M series and Tuners excluded).
Point being the Turbo is the only thing making the Volvo faster. Are we comparing Cars or Upgrades? If upgrades, then the car does not matter; if comparing Cars, we have to compare them stock.
That's exactly my point. it takes the Turbo and extensive suspension modifications in order for that Volvo to hang with that BMW. That 635 is almost bone stock. They added a stiffer suspension and a different Camshaft to that M30 engine, and that's it. Look, my brother owns 8 Volvos. I own 4 BMWs. the only way any one of his cars can beat any one of mine is by adding a Turbo. That just means the Turbo beat me. If I add a Turbo on mine, we're right back where we started.
What an idiot. Volvo's amazing B21FT is only a 2.1 turbo 4-cylinder, the turbo effectively makes it use as much air as a big straight-6, y'know.. like the bmw has? So its all fair.
Volvo engines are way better than the BMW rubbish.
@revcom301 Did Jim Richards not win the 85' championship in a BMW 635???
The BMW is a better car from the factory It has an M30 engine which is seriously reliable, low maintenance and has no lag N/A. The car as a whole is better. Handles better, has a nicer interior and looks stunning. The volvo is ugly. Force the induction on an M30 and they generate a shitload of power with little lag provided its done properly.
On the race track it's totally different, the cars are engineered to the hilt.
@revcom301 The timing chain on that engine will outlast the car by a factor of 10. They are built very well. The cooling system's major downfall on the bimmer is the mechanical fan easily fixed with an E Fan conversion. I have an M30 in an e34, so long as the cooling system is looked after there are not problems. As for the s38 which was in the M6, the same unfortunately cannot be said.
Yeah, and whereas BMW has won 55 International Engine of the Year awards since 1999 (when this started) and is on top of all manafacturers, Volvo hasn't even won 1 award in any class yet.
Volvo engines are so good they needed PORSCHE to help them design their 5 cylinder in the 90's, and they YAMAHA designed the V8 which they used in the XC90 for a while. In the 80's their cars came with old pushrod Renault engines.
BMW's 4 cylinder M10/M12 engine was designed in 1961 and also made the list of the 10 best engines of the 20'th century by a car historian.
You see this engine was good enough to be used in Formula 1 in 1982-1987, and it won Brabham the world title in 1983 with Nelson Piquet becoming world champion, scoring the first turbo-title. In 1986 when they were still allowed to use max boost in qualifying Paul Rosche said that the BMW 4 cyl, had over 1400hp on the dyno. From 1,5litres.
good battle
yomonstruo 1 year ago
haha vovlo will never make engines as tough as bmws .
0drunkerd0 1 year ago
240grupp-aDOTse
stonerumble 1 year ago
i like volvo 240
benzyeap 2 years ago 4
volvo beats comodore lol!
bradgotch 2 years ago
Volvo 240 goes strong
alftatraktor 3 years ago 9
volvos dominating a bimmer, classic
freerideking06 3 years ago 4
ya!240 for life!!!!i hav 2 of it one for me n another for my big bro~
my big bro using B230FK engine for his 240 n my 240 using stock engine(some 2.0 carburetor nonturbo) wit adjustable absorber n wit LSD for drifting~~~~ =P
240 FOR LIFE!!!!VOLVO FOR LIFE!!!
napie88 3 years ago 4
love them 240s
freerideking06 3 years ago 4
actually the engine in the 240T was the B21ET.(2,1L, 155hp in stock spec)
It's very similar to the B23ET which came in the first 760 Turbo (2,3L, 185hp)
both engines have forged internals, the blocks are very strong: cast iron shortblock, heads are aluminium with OHC shim & bucket setup. Very simple and durable)
The 240T GrA racecar used to run 285km/h down 'Conrod straight' at Bathurst. (Francevic, Bowe)
jfv65 3 years ago 4
to Starwomen84's comment!
B23ET is a Turbocharged 182Hp engine from aprox 80-90, so if i am to belive the duel V70R - 23ET nonturbo, please post engine specs!!!!!! :P
but YES, volvo turboengines are the best, and can take more beating than most other brands. often seen in race\drift bmw's and other just becouse of volvos stamina during max power usage.
one example is f.ex. manta magic on youtube.
Opel Manta\Vauxhall Manta tuned with a compressor(?) AND Turbo, 16V!
bynesetcustoms 3 years ago
volvo have some awsome engines for turbo tuning.. one of the best for 4cylinder turbo.. peopel use them it other car becose they are fucking awsome.. have seen a race where a tuned 700hp volvo 240 turbo beat a porsche 911..
vectraB97 3 years ago 2
1st class! 5 stars
artofwheels 3 years ago
that volvo 240 turbo is a group A modded car! thats why its so fast and brutal! its made to go like that! many replikas buildt here in norway nowdays!
bynesetcustoms 3 years ago
Why can no one accept that the volvo 240 is a great car? You can pull about 1000 hp of an B23ET engine and if you don´t belie me google it!! I have 3 of my own and they haven´t let me down anyway. one of them won a race from 0-100kmh against a V70R and thats without turbo . Compete that !!
Starwomen84 3 years ago
how the hell can a 240 beat a "R" with 300 hp without turbo? what was the hp of the 240? that is very hard to belive!!!
bynesetcustoms 3 years ago
BMW sux
KokkosErik 3 years ago
Obviously you dont know much about cars.
squeekedice 3 years ago 2
Haha.. The BMW had no chance against the Volvo.. 240 for life
volvo240242 3 years ago
yeah because the "real" races are Nascar and other shit that doesn't require skill, right?
lovesara850 3 years ago
Must say that I dont recon Volvo as the ultimat race car. But then again never saw BTCC, ETCC or the other shitty competitions as real races either.
pestis57 3 years ago
Mike881121 are really Einstein in reincarnation. No Volvo is not so good in ETCC... they have never competed there. Duh
Mike881121, do you know that BMW never won Camaro Cup? Not news to me... Look at BTCC and the years Volvo competed.
pestis57 3 years ago
Volvo Power !!!!!!!!
swetype3 4 years ago 4
See at Wikipedia European_Touring_Car_Championship
Sorry for the mistakes,was typing kind a inaccurate.
Mike881121 4 years ago
Actionall,if you look how much times Volvo was a winner these chapmionships,you'd see,that it has by no means a comparissom with BMW.I know Wikipedia is not perfect,but
Mike881121 4 years ago
bmw is nice german cars <3
audiman8568 4 years ago
Search 'Rover V8 SD1 story' on youtube. It's a 7 part documentary about the Volvo 240 and Rover SD1's in the ETCC. Volvo was a very hard car to beat!!
AndrewEG 4 years ago
Yeah.. Rovers usually won by filing objections about this and that.. :D
Hoolie2899 4 years ago
VOLVO sparkar arsle.....! In english,VOLVO KICKS ASS....
dragoonman64 4 years ago
Volvo RULES...>!!!
dorani22 4 years ago
BMWs SUCK HARD! Volvo is the best! You can see it also from this video. Fuck you bmw lovers! FUCK YOU!
deutser 4 years ago
BMW 635 CSI RULEZ.... the pilot here is shit
INGRIFATI 4 years ago
FYI the BMW pilot in this race had winning the last 5 seasons.... but when volvo enter.... nnn
cubanomx2 4 years ago
goe the 635s volvos suck
supg123 4 years ago
volvo 240 have a very good motor.
it can last for ever, my friends volvo 240 from 86, have runed 400.000km, and it still runs as it was new.
teamvolvo740 4 years ago
But they are troubled with rust though.
jonsen2k 4 years ago
I have an '84 turbo with almost zero rust, and it resides in snowy areas. You're wrong on that.
Amy31415 4 years ago
Ment the '86.
And snow isn't a problem if you wash it.
It's when they salt the roads.
jonsen2k 4 years ago
I had a 1986 240. The B23/B230-(series 2) engines are fantastic.
Luzern76 4 years ago
Hanswurst, your argument isn't worth dick. You are thee perfect example of an 'internet tough guy'. Post some VIDEOS of your own legit vehicles going around a track or shut your mouth.
Ztig503 4 years ago
One more thing...The new BMW 335 CI has a twin turbo engine.After 25 years bmw engeneers FINALLY acepted the turbo surperiority...oh and not only volvo but Turbo volvo is life
gonbugas 4 years ago
apart from the 2002 turbo & the formula 1 engines for brabham in the"turbo era" .... But hey, that was a great clip of some great cars doing some great racing.
fix8edfreccia 2 years ago
u told us a reality but when engine(has no turbo) blows and engine(with turbo) doesn't blow and run out of gas this tell us how volvo engine is taugh more than BMW's
hoooooda 4 years ago
Man these ARE RACING cars!Of course they´re all modified!The Volvo is faster end of question.If you want to win races start with the fastest car.What make won for years in a row the ETCC in the e80´s? Against V12XJS V8SD1 V8BMW´s.how many cars could keep the pace with those cars-in real life-with a family+luggage-for 1/3 of the price?Ok it´s a Turbo engine!Doesn´t this means a more tech developed car? Early 80´sTURBO ERA!BMW had a turbo late 70´s 2002Turbo(171 hp).
gonbugas 5 years ago
i am so amazed about ur comment, u said what i wanna say that they r all modified but in comparison i checked up the final results of this race and i found that BMW 635 csi had blown its engine but volvo was out of fuel so finaly thanx alot gonbugas
hoooooda 5 years ago
There is a german saying "Turbo läuft, Turbo säuft". In english "Turbo goes, Turbo drinks (huge amounts of gas)".
I guess that old volvo suffered the same fate.
Waalkes 4 years ago
Yes, my Volvo 'säuft'. but I have a friend with a slow 320i, that one drinks as much.
Mine has 280bhp, the BMW only has about 150BHP... So, It think they're both thirsty..;)
boerwouter 4 years ago
u have the right point but cauz i love volvo car, i have 740GL so its my no. 1 but it doesn't mean that i hate BMW i like it, it's powerfull
hoooooda 5 years ago
Look man, I'm not knocking Volvos, especially not the old ones. I'd love to have a Turbo-Brick. I know these cars have incredible potential, and have wonderful Parts-interchangeability. I have worked extensively on them. All I'm saying is the stock Vehicles can't compare, and that's where its at. I have to accept the same for BMW's VS most Japanese cars. Jap cars (stock) are simply faster (generally) than stock BMWs (M series and Tuners excluded).
Hanswurst27278 5 years ago
Turbo vs NA? OF course the Turbo wins, Duh! Line 'em up stock, see what happens. Still good job, Volvo. I know them Turbo Bricks have potential.
Hanswurst27278 5 years ago
thats 4 sure turbo wins but take in cosideration 2.0 turbo VS 3.5 litre there's stand
hoooooda 5 years ago
Point being the Turbo is the only thing making the Volvo faster. Are we comparing Cars or Upgrades? If upgrades, then the car does not matter; if comparing Cars, we have to compare them stock.
Hanswurst27278 5 years ago
That's exactly my point. it takes the Turbo and extensive suspension modifications in order for that Volvo to hang with that BMW. That 635 is almost bone stock. They added a stiffer suspension and a different Camshaft to that M30 engine, and that's it. Look, my brother owns 8 Volvos. I own 4 BMWs. the only way any one of his cars can beat any one of mine is by adding a Turbo. That just means the Turbo beat me. If I add a Turbo on mine, we're right back where we started.
Hanswurst27278 5 years ago
Alot of Volvo cars are Turbo stock (i.e. the 850 Turbo, 240 Turbo, 740 Turbo). It is stock.
VraiDiouf 4 years ago
What an idiot. Volvo's amazing B21FT is only a 2.1 turbo 4-cylinder, the turbo effectively makes it use as much air as a big straight-6, y'know.. like the bmw has? So its all fair.
Volvo engines are way better than the BMW rubbish.
revcom301 2 years ago
@revcom301 Did Jim Richards not win the 85' championship in a BMW 635???
The BMW is a better car from the factory It has an M30 engine which is seriously reliable, low maintenance and has no lag N/A. The car as a whole is better. Handles better, has a nicer interior and looks stunning. The volvo is ugly. Force the induction on an M30 and they generate a shitload of power with little lag provided its done properly.
On the race track it's totally different, the cars are engineered to the hilt.
v12stuart 1 year ago
@v12stuart
The M30 reliable? It's an interference engine, if that timing chain breaks it lunches the whole thing. Not to mention those uneven cooling issues.
How much was the 635 CSI in the showroom compared to the 240T? Probably twice the price.
"The car as a whole is better. Handles better, has a nicer interior and looks stunning."
Stock, yes.
revcom301 1 year ago
@revcom301 The timing chain on that engine will outlast the car by a factor of 10. They are built very well. The cooling system's major downfall on the bimmer is the mechanical fan easily fixed with an E Fan conversion. I have an M30 in an e34, so long as the cooling system is looked after there are not problems. As for the s38 which was in the M6, the same unfortunately cannot be said.
v12stuart 1 year ago
@v12stuart
Ok.
revcom301 1 year ago
@revcom301
Yeah, and whereas BMW has won 55 International Engine of the Year awards since 1999 (when this started) and is on top of all manafacturers, Volvo hasn't even won 1 award in any class yet.
Volvo engines are so good they needed PORSCHE to help them design their 5 cylinder in the 90's, and they YAMAHA designed the V8 which they used in the XC90 for a while. In the 80's their cars came with old pushrod Renault engines.
Get real.
McLarenMercedes 8 months ago
@revcom301
BMW's 4 cylinder M10/M12 engine was designed in 1961 and also made the list of the 10 best engines of the 20'th century by a car historian.
You see this engine was good enough to be used in Formula 1 in 1982-1987, and it won Brabham the world title in 1983 with Nelson Piquet becoming world champion, scoring the first turbo-title. In 1986 when they were still allowed to use max boost in qualifying Paul Rosche said that the BMW 4 cyl, had over 1400hp on the dyno. From 1,5litres.
McLarenMercedes 8 months ago