religous people do not have morals and they dont not refrain from doing bad things because of love for god they refrain from doing bad things because they are scared. they think if they do bad things then their imaginary friend will send them to burn in hell for all eternity. how is that morals? its not morals its just fear. when an athiest refrains from doing a bad thing it is only morals because they have nothing to fear
When they break the law No we will win in the end. There is no need to even try. Just believe what you believe the truth will come out regardless of your faith. I am an atheist by the way.
@dolerbom You atheists are such hypocrites. You deny God and denounce religion but still
want to celebrate Christmas, which is a Christian holiday, and it wouldn't even exit if it weren't for God/Jesus and religion. I'll tell you what, I'm going to follow Jesus and the Virgin Mary and
Joan of Arc and Bernadette of Lourdes to wherever they're going, and you atheists can follow
that scum Richard Dawkins to wherever he's going, which is to eternal nothingness, and
@9N8X Christmas is from the old English, "Christ's Mass", and it is indeed a Christian
holiday. It falls on Dec. 25th, because the Feast of the Annunciation (the conception of
Jesus in Mary) is Mar. 25th. The Christian holiday happens to fall very close to the Roman celebration of the Winter Solstice (the birth of the sun when it is the furthest
south during the year, usually around Dec. 21st, the shortest day of the year). No pagan religion ever celebrated Christ's birth.
@burkewhb you must have deleted your other reply to me but, we can celebrate whatever we want. We mostly just put another holiday on the same date as Christmas i guess... We do not do what you do on Christmas, but we celebrate it our own way because we mostly made our own holiday. Also the U.S was not founded by Christians. We had separation of church and state in our constitution for a reason. Christmas used to be like the holiday you are talking about, but now it is not.
@dolerbom OK. I concede you can celebrate Christmas any way you want. I'm Catholic, and I admit that the Catholic Church has brought its own problems on itself. I think any priest who molests a child should be put against a wall and shot. What bothers me about atheism is when a guy like Richard Dawkins calls the Virgin Mary
a "cosmic doormat" and the Immaculate Conception "a disgusting concept". He insults many people's deepest beliefs for no good reason and causes deep hatred.
i think live and let live, but in all honesty atheists should not be allowed to raise children. maybe if those poor, Godless souls did not teach thier children to hate God we would not have so much evil in the world. i am sure it is seductive to feel special and different, but really you are in the clutches of satan himself. he cant give you courage, only fear. turn away from that path and the Lord will always welcome you home no matter what you have done :):):)
So, what the ignorant, fool is saying, is that he is TIRED of Atheists trying to infringe upon his rights to infringe upon peoples rights. DAMN THOSE ATHEISTS! Is it really that hard for Christians not to brainwash people in schools and public too? Do they not brainwash enough children from parents or in the church?
This is why i am glad to live in sweden when peoples arguments makes sense, intelligent and atheists, i'm not very religious i hate religion but i love jesus, he's the only one that actually brings peace and makes lives better. Religion and god makes the world toa horrible place because people have such huge egos
@darthgabriel97 how can you believe in jesus but not the bible or god? The fuck? I remember watching a video about this... look up TheAmazingAtheist on youtube, and go to the i hate religion but love jesus video....
Gosh, I hate when this so-called Rev. Patterson. And I'm a black guy who believes in God. He's the joke that Fox always brings on to argue their points. I dont know how he got on CNN....
I am beginning to see a theme that the most religious countries happen to ranks low in terms of economic wealth. Within those countries is seems that the economically most disadvantaged groups are the most religious. Can this suggest that although America has the highest GDP in the world, the vast majority are religious because many of them are not able to enjoy the fruits of their own labor,which magically seems to end up in the hands of the top 1%?
*yawn* This panel is discriminatory. If CNN hate atheists, and followers of other religions so much they might as well get a room with the KKK and the Neo-Nazis.
those of us who choose to not believe in a god, get our morals from our consciences and our critical thinking abilities which tell us society would be a better place to live in, if we all followed certain guidelines. like not stealing from or killing each other. it just makes for a better world to live in, duh! but, thank goodness christians believe in their "God" because it seems their feeble minds would be first in line to do the killing and stealing. and aint that the truth! AMEN!
@orbitalsatellite "those of us who choose to not believe in a god” --> You choose to believe? So you could choose to believe in Allah, or unicorns? You could choose to believe that theres a pot of gold at the end of a rainbow?
"choice", noun, defined as an act of selecting or making a decision when faced with two or more possibilities. "choose", verb, defined as picking out or selecting someone or something, as being the best or most appropriate of two or more alternatives. or, deciding on a course of action, typically after rejecting alternatives.
Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr. described bigots with the following quote: "The mind of a bigot is like the pupil of the eye; the more light you pour upon it, the more it will contract."
This was a bad example of communication. Loaded questions abound and a man that wouldn't let her answer a question. Morals are observable guys, they are not divine....we learned what is moral through our social nature. You don't have to believe in god to KNOW that killing someone is wrong.
I'm 100% sure the black preacher never read the bible in his life. Of course he doesn't want to see Christian beliefs washed away. He makes millions of dollars raping the minds of old black ladies hoping for a happy ending when they die, pays no taxes, drives expensive cars and wears designer suits. Jesus is big business.
just because america was made from christian belief, doesn't mean it has to stay that way. it's okay to tweak it, especially because it's the right thing to do in this case.
To be honest (and somewhat racist, you've been warned), I thought a Black man would be more sympathetic to the cause of people who have been discriminated against.
@spareld well that's true, just because he's a black man doesn't mean he's necessarily aware of the oppression his race has gone through in the United States but I highly doubt it. That's one of the biggest questions in the Atheist community "why aren't more black people atheists?" it's cultural but at the same time ironic....they embrace a religion that enslaved them and clearly justifies slavery in it's writing. Riddle me that.
@Antimidation oh I agree with you totally...I'm sure there are black atheist out there i'm for sure one of them...but just like you said it's a cultural thing and a lot of black people are fearful of what their family and community might think of them
Comedy video: "Lets try and solve two vastly different methods of thinking....IN 4 MINUTES AND 27 SECONDS!"
And that's why I don't watch Ritalin TV. I mean American TV, I mean, shiny shiny, OH GOD THE PICTURES ARE MOVING AND THEY CALL IT TV AND WHEN DID I LAST HAVE A MCDONALDS?!
christians get their morals from the bible... the same bible that says its okay to beat your slave as long as you dont kill them. (Exodus 20:21.12) hmmm
15 And He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature. 16 He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned. 17 And these signs will follow those who believe: In My name they will cast out demons; they will speak with new tongues.
@BaneOfAzrael Joshua 24:15 And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.
@BaneOfAzrael I'll tell you the truth any way I want to, and you don't get to decide the ways or means, and what you choose to dismiss or not isn't my problem. I don't care.
@mrtadreamer your inability to provide evidence shows your dishonest. The snarky attitude shows immaturity.
You’ve given no proof, you’ve given claims. WIthout evidence your claims cannot be considered truth. Its as simple as that. I’m fairly confidence that you’re full of bs. Prove me wrong.
@mrtadreamer based on your conduct and words I can only be confident of your dishonest, and disingenuousness. I can suspect the devious and malicious nature
@BaneOfAzrael Joshua 24:15 And if it seems evil to you to serve the LORD, choose for yourselves this day whom you will serve, whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the River, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land you dwell. But as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.”
@mrtadreamer but lets go with this “I don’t care” claim. Since your ultimate goal is to somehow twist these claims to support your religious claims, we can not judge you as a disingenuous and perhaps even malicious person. After all in your mind your religion is correct and all those who do not believe will suffer a hell that words cannot begin to describe. not caring about your fellow man, and withholding essential information that will effect their eternity paints you as a rather nasty person
@mrtadreamer To save others I would give my life. it appears you wouldn’t even give a few minutes of your ‘precious” time to give proof and evidence to save others from a fate worse than death.
If your God is all-knowing, just and loving, and is brutal enough to make hell for those who don’t believe, I can’t imagine what he has in store for those hide the truth from his creation
The pastor said "Christians get their morals from God...from the Bible...".
Well, apparently these morals would include stoning your unruly children to death and murdering anyone working on the sabbath. Slaughtering an entire town of disbelieving men, women, and children (including infants) but exempting the young virgin girls so they can be raped. Slavery was also condoned throughout both testaments, from Genesis to Revelation.
This is pathetic. His argument is utterly ridiculous.
"radical homosexual movement..." wow.... "Where do you get you're ethics from?" Well, I get my ethics from an old book written by people who slaughtered animals and people to appease their god... oh, no, that's the monotheists! right, I remember now. lol
Atheists treat others with rationalism, compassion and justice. Atheists believe in human rights and individual freedom. Atheists do not judge others based on a book written by desert nomads and opportunists in Rome 325 CE.
@TheSpeaknoevil "Atheists are everything the modernday, propagated, evil "Christians" are not" IS NOT AN ARGUMENT OUT OR REASON. YOU SIMPLY TOOK YOUR ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT CHRISTIANS AND STATED THAT ATHEISTS ARE NOT THOSE THINGS WHEN IN REALITY ATHEISTS JUST LIE ABOUT EVERYTHING. THATS IT. THERE IS NO COMPLEXITY TO THEM. THEY JUST SAY WHAT THEY WANT TO BE LIKE AND LIE ABOUT WHATEVER, WHENEVER. THEY BELEIVE IN RELATIVE FREEDOM BUT SHOUT "NO!!" WHEN FREEDOM OF EVIL ATTEMPTS TO GAIN GROUND. IDIOTS.
@SuperSam424 Deluded brain-washed moron addicted to the moses-jesus opium. Wake up. Your Old Testament is a hebrew myth & the New Testament were written in Rome 362 CE by self-serving powerful men - a compilation of various Jesus sects and European fairy tales. Your god does not exist and if that lunatic Jesus did exist, he is long dead.
@TheSpeaknoevil You're a fucking idiot. Generalizations show nothing but STUPIDITY. Atheists are nothing but indifferent, unintelligent people who simply don't want to have to answer to anybody aka they are antichrist everything with the "reasoning" of "JUST BECAUSE". Philosophically speaking God MUST EXIST. Disprove the only truism in existence. I dare you. And you're not allowed to use anything eternal (YOU DON'T BELIEVE IN THE METAPHYSICAL WORLD). GO.
@SuperSam424 "You're a fucking idiot. Generalizations show nothing but STUPIDITY. Atheists are nothing but indifferent...” ---> lol, this is rich, not only are you a foul mouthed jackass but you just broke your own damned rule.
You said that Generalizations show nothing but stupidity, and then you go on to generalize all atheists.
Atheist get their morals from their parents and anyone they hang around with long enough. That is why, some people are good and some are bad. Including Theists.
im agnostic. Yeah anybody who says they believe in god. But dont go to church. You must be a closeted atheist. I believe in separation church and state. But I dont think having a nativity scene for one mouth is a major violation. Also most Anti Theist are just interested the church and state. The could care less about the FIRST amendment. Or that fact this country guarantees religious freedom. In that way you people are no better then Republicans who only care about 2ed amendment.
I'm atheist and I'm against all forms of human suffering. It's easy to be moral lol I just always put myself in the other person's shoes. BOOM BANG POW
It always amuses me when the self righteous christians get on their high horses and spout about morality.
Morality in itself MUST be innate for if it wasn`nt then mankind could never have made it this far.
ALL religions are that of man,designed specifically to obstruct the enhancement of our species,to stultify our never ending aspirations to seek wisdom.
Religion is cancerous and should be dealt with accordingly.
The black guy is a moron. He believes in the same religion that enslaved his people from the start. His African ancestors are turning in their graves right now. Real African spiritual knowledge has been destroyed and replaced with Christianity, right a long with many other cultures. People should be outraged instead of believing the shit.
@Severe777 That always bothered me, but I've always wondered where the PC line is, so I was always silent. I think it's idiotic for any race of people who were forced into Christianity... which accounts for most of this planet, to continue to believe in it. Sure, I understand when you are forced into slavery, or facing torture or death to 'convert', but those problems no longer exist... in most places... that don't burn your ass for Witchcraft...
The small-minded guy representing Christianity says he gets his morals and ethics from the BIble, but yet he doesn't know that the Bible specifically says that you can't wear clothes made from more than one material, something he is doing. Obviously, he's going to hell. Religion is stupid. Deuterenomy 22:11 Darby Bible Translation
Thou shalt not wear a garment of mixed material, woven of wool and linen together.
@JukiBelak As a christian .Im offended by this video too, why is the savage darky not a slave in a field? It clearly states how to treat your slave and that servants should serve their masters.Also states that the sins of the father shall pass down to the sun.So what is this civil rights and abolition of slavery bullshit?The bible says only isrealites have true rights not gentiles!! - this is the true face of the bible, i am atheist and would rather go by moral views not bigotry and hatred. :)
Alright, that Reverend is a complete fucktard; interrupting, asking irrelevant questions, not understanding the Constitution, not pronouncing anything correctly... he almost impresses me.
It's always such great irony that the great majority of Christians I see debating so diligently are blacks, not realizing, I suppose, that their "adoption" of western religion came from hundreds of years of being owned in this country and being forced into believing that specific religion.
" This great country was built on the idea of God, family, slavery, lack of woman rights, why would they want to change that, and take out discrimination out of the lives of Americans" "same with the radical homosexual movement. They tried to make everyone else gay...." Was all I heard out of that guys mouth.
"where do you get your morals from if not from god?" So for the entire 50000+ years that humans were evolving into their current state all they did was murder and pillage and rape? but THEN some 3 or 4000 years ago ago they finally could stop doing that because god gave them the ten commandments? and christians really believe this .... Morals are innate to humans if they would not be we wouldn't have survived as a species. end of story, now go find a new argument fo us to laugh at.
This shitskin is all tangled up in his ebonics 'n sheat. Does black skin turn you into a worthless sack of shit? In the cast of this dangerous nigger, this is true. Atheists are the top of the heap, We are the upper crust of Humanity. The faithful are vermin. Time for the gas me thinks
@699backstab "This shitskin is all tangled up in his ebonics 'n sheat." Perhaps it is you who is a subhuman moron? Food for thought. (which, incidentally, you are incapable of.)
@fenderkid6 That doesn't make me a racist dipshit. You wouldn't know racist if it came served to you by a hooked nose needle fingered kike oven dodger
@fenderkid6 Your comment is not funny. Making a joke about the extermination of 6 thousand Jews is a crime against Humanity son. Im off to rape Jesus Christ and give Allah a pigblood transfusion. America remember you earned 9/11 and one day you will bring the American government to justice because it is they that planned 9/11 thank you
The faithful don't like Atheists because Atheists are religions Kryptonite. Religion is a cancer on the Human spirit. Religion is a dark empty barbaric place in the minds of weak people. Knowledge and intelligence makes religion cower. Atheists run planet Earth. Atheists tolerate (for now) the faithful, We take care of them in the same light as We take care of retarded and crippled people. We do this because our morality was born from evolution. It is sound and pure. It is proven to work.
1) The questions were all loaded (Christians think that atheists are morally compromised. Are YOU morally compromised?)
2) The reverend kept interrupting every time the atheists tried to make their point.
3) The way the email was worded made it sound like the person wanted to take rights away from the religious. Separation of church and state is about ensuring equality between ALL beliefs and preventing tyranny of the majority in government.
you start talking ethics then you are already trying to figure out a way to justify, to be seen in a positive light while still carry a negative nature
its sad to see a black man being such a blatant bigot after all his people have been through because of bigotry and its even sadder to see him getting away with it on national television
The world will never stop believing in gods and ghosts, no matter how much non-believers try to make them see things their way. I hope one day, our beliefs in the supernatural will be so personal, that they are irrelevant to conversation and media discourse.
@Drebln893 not at all, I personally know plenty of my friends don't publicly say they are atheist in fear of social persecution. Luckily I just don't care what religious people think of me, they are the ones who believe in a magic invisible man in the sky
Any Majority does not "assume" anything right simply being predicated within any supposition within any belief... Where has any trust wthin any deity gotten anyone? Even the good book points out that No One has ever seen God at anytime, (John) which questions what anyone knows about what they think and dont know' define Moral? There are too many generalizations on both sides which has everything to do with pandering andany fact that isoften compelled todefend what they donot know about anything
The religuous guy obviously has some internal filter, removing anything that opposes his current beliefs. You must have understood that these are coded in our dna, and the result is the product of dna and social conditioning. Statistics support this.
THIS CLOWN THEY KEEP CALLING RICHARD DAWKINS IS A 2 TIME CLOWN NAME JESSIE PETERSON NOT ONLY IS HE A INTOLERABLE IGNORANT FUCK HE HATES HIS OWN PEOPLE, NOW TAKE A CLOSE LOOK AT THIS PICTURE , AND SEE HOW GOD LIKE THAT IS. I'LL GO FURTHER IM STARTING TO THINK THAT BEING GOD LIKE OR GODS CHILDREN SHOULD BE A NEW CATCH PHRASE CONNOTATION FOR ANOTHER GROUP OF NUT JOBS WHO HATE ANYBODY OR ANYTHING THAT DON'T BELIEVE IN "THEIR" MAN MADE DOCTRINE OF HYPOCRISY THAT SUPPOSEDLY HAS A MONOPOLY ON TRUTH.
That's something Theists say when they have no argument left.
Morality is not a complicated thing to understand.
We each as individuals know how it feels to feel pain/oppression etc, so we strive towards helping eachother live a happy fulfilling life because we want the same for ourselves and society can function better if we live in a society where for instance, where you're able to live an openly gay life.
@FunkyWhitePimp Actually it IS a good argument but way to spiritually deep for facevalue-judging atheists. Every human being has that unreachable desire for that one undescribable thing. The constitution calls it "persuit of happiness". The real reason why atheists are morally comprimised is because they deny their very foundation where all other foundations come from. They use their consciousness and deny it. Atheists are like "religious" people who are scared of not being accepted by God.
What you said made no sense. "They use their conciousness and deny it"???
We do have a conciousness. As do other animals. How "evolved" this conciousness is in other animals is difficult to tell. Although the idea of our conciousness being linked to an immortal soul is pleasing, but unfortunately has big problems when trying to give a rational description of how this works. Our counciousness is a product of our brain activity, and therefore goes away when the brain "dies".
@Robin90modell Actually, it makes perfect sense--you just haven't understood it metaphysically yet (aka you haven't thought about it). Your second paragraph is just invalid for it does not talk about anything I said. i never said atheists don't HAVE consciousness. I said they deny it. Your conscious is the mind of Christ. That's the reason it is universal. And all your 'scientific" mumbojumbo is simply describing the physical structure of the brain--NOT the conscious itself. Stop assuming things
I'm saying conciousness arise from the physical structure/activity of the brain. Clearly our physical brain does process lots of information. I'm now asking you, what is it exactly about our conciousness that comes from outside our brain. Does it have memory? Is it responsible for making decisions? Is it responsible for making strategic decisions in a real time strategy game?
@Robin90modell False. A consciousness has no beginning, thus it must always exist--somewhere. This is philosophical FACT. Our brain is a mere biological computer that interprets the consciousness through physical processes. It is quite clear and self-evident that all humans possess invisible qualities.And to answer your question, our consciousness can do much more than our physical brain maps out.
You say it can do much more. I ask what is that. When we play a strategy game, we make decisions. What building to build and so on. Is it our physical brain that makes these decisions, or are these made by this non-physical part? Is it a combination? If so, what is each part responsible for?
What are these invisible qualities all humans posess?
@Robin90modell Just look at the metaphysical powers Jesus had as a child. He created living birds from clay, He killed people via his words, He was able to heal, He was able to change things at their molecular level, He KNEW EVERYTHING..ect Understand that our spirit is being monsterably limited by our physical brain. Everything is spiritual--the physical just allows the right functions through. We see malfunctions with things like psychics and ppl who are physically magnetic.
Still, I'm curious about the strategy question. we need to have control over what our enemy is doing, what we have built, upgraded, where our units and buildings are, where possible resources are, estimating our and opponents strength, trying to predict what our enemy will do and so on.
Is the "spirit" responsible for making decisions based on this information, or is it the physical brain?
@Robin90modell Strategies? Those things are called the laws of logic. They are discovered metaphysically and are thus eternal. They come with God. Look at it like this. We are a spirit. We have a body. Our spirit is constantly communicating using eternal metaphysical words. If we were in THE perfect state--we would be able to manifest ALL metaphysical concepts here. But we can't, as if we're in some lower dimension that only allows time/space/matter. SpiriHoly x Gods Will= phsical structure
Some research shows changes in the brain structure after playing games. Why is that so (if research is correct), if the physical brain isn't responsible for these things.
What do you mean by the word eternal? Strategies are eternal? what does that mean?
@Robin90modell Yes, the brain does undergo physical changes from physical and mental stimuli. But the thing you must understnad is that cognitive scientists have a very hard time unmingiling the conscious part and the processess part of the brain. They both seem to have something to do with each other and its THAT that has scientists on edge. It seems like our brain is REFERING to something that in ESSSENCE is not at all physical but eternal (meaning something that doesnt die and alywas existed)
Any sources. Our brain is extremely complex so don't expect that question to be answered very soon. It's probably not a specific part of the brain, but there may be a network that is especially significant to our conciousness. Ofcourse testing which part is responsible for conciousness would be extremely difficult, primarily because conciousness is so loosely defined. You may be able to find parts that are responsible for the more specific like logic though.
@Robin90modell No, whatever is actually RUNNING our brain is NOT physical. We know this as fact. There would be no cognitive philosopher who disagree's. The notion of the black box has been around forever. Not to mention NDE's. Oh, and the Pineal Gland is responsible for our spiritual senses. True story.
Near death is not actually death. There can still be some brain activity, which can cause all theses sorts of near death experiences. Right, you can look the phineal gland up on wikipedia, there's nothing mystic about it. A cognitive philosopher? How about someone who ACTUALLY studies the brain, don't you think they're more likely to come to conclusions on what our brain can and can't do? Are you really being serious?
@SuperSam424 You're either a brilliant troll, or horribly delusional. If the former, then bravo sir. If the latter...Well then I'm afraid there's no hope for you.
@Lectricfuneral Keep telling yourself I'm just a brilliant fool as if that makes sense. In reality, it makes more sense that I am just brilliant and correct and you are the one who is actually trolling..as I am and as you actually are. Clicking my name is like clicking into the real matrix. Yes, it eixsts.
@Lectricfuneral Do you call everyone who's smarter than you a troll? You such call us something with a better connotation. If WE are the trolls then you guys are the maggots we eat.
@SuperSam424 No, I call people that get on the internet and spew random garbage, that they may or may not actually believe, in an attempt to get people mad trolls. You know, people that are trolling. But personally I find you people quite entertaining. So I'm willing to play into your charade as long as you're willing to keep it up.
@Lectricfuneral "random garbage"....Where are you getting this fact from you dishonest human being. I have already told you. My information is not random. It comes from years of RESEARCH. RESEARCH AS IN NOT WHATEVER YOU THINK I DO TO GET MY INFORMATION. You seriously have the odassity to simply make stuff up? Murderer. and FALSE, TRUTH gets people mad. Not my fucking intentions. DISHONEST HUMAN BEING. None of your words had any truth to them. You know this. And you obviously can't keep up.
@Lectricfuneral Asking if I'm mad as an argument? Not working nor are you inferring anything in any shape or form. You're clearly just a dishonest human being. Not worth time.
@SuperSam424 Never said I was arguing. I already know that you're a stubborn, delusional, jackass that despite any amount of rationality or logic, will continue your bigoted and completely misguided views of atheism and atheists. So why should I bother wasting my time arguing with you? It's much more fun to laugh at how absurdly angry you get at relatively nothing.
@Lectricfuneral You're making sound thus you're attempting to argue no matter what you say. And I only get angry at dishonesty. Your accusations towards me are nothing more than that--just accusations. You have no foundation for your words--it's hilarious watching your try to form a true statement.
@SuperSam424 The act of simply replying automaticly means I'm arguing? You think what you're saying is brilliance, but all that that's coming out is "Crazy, crazy, crazy."
@Lectricfuneral 1. "No matter what you say" aka you know what you were trying to do. 'You mad bro" is a way of simply undermining something aka trying to make my words sound weightless. This is dumb on your part. Simple IGNORance is not an argument. Let's get something clear. You lie. I don't. You no longer have freedom to speak without being dissected first. you lost all respect from me. Not that you care.
@SuperSam424 No, it was meant to show you that your attempts to insult me don't phase me. And you've spent a lot of time calling me a liar, which I find confusing since I'm simply stating what I've observed. And wether wrong or not they're observations, making them opinions. One's opinions cannot be a lie as much as they can't be true. And until you present this "research" that all your insanity is molded around, you're the only liar here.
@Lectricfuneral Why would you care if you're getting insulted? You began them but you can't take them? Please. Underminging facts I have researched for years is just insulting alone and you hate God on top of that. You are not stating what you observed you dishonest human being. You lie.
@SuperSam424 Again, present the research. Until then you're the liar. And I don't hate god. I have no opinion on him. You are the one full of hate. You are the one going on about anyone not believe in god, or not blindly following your rambling insanity, is immoral. And I've stated several times what I observed. That you are either a, trolling. Or b, insane.
@SuperSam424 " the Pineal Gland is responsible for our spiritual senses. True story.” --> If this is true then could you provide the academic journals in which this information is published and point me towards the labs or university that tested this claim?
@SuperSam424 "A consciousness has no beginning, thus it must always exist--somewhere. This is philosophical FACT” --> saying “this is true” or “this is a fact” is silly.
Don’t tell us you have truth, show us. Intelligent people are not going to turn off their critical thinking skills and accept everything you dish out, and ignore the unjustified claims.
@BaneOfAzrael ...Show you self evident philosophical facts??? That is non-sensical. Do not ask for "evidence" for a immaterial metaphysical reality. That's "silly", like you're half-assed assumption about Christ not being the son of God.
@BaneOfAzrael See this is why atheists waste my time when "debating". They put the label "CLAIM" on something that is common knowledge in the field. There are magickal and occultic qualities to all minerals and minerals make up EVERYTHING. OF COURSE there are going to be no secular refrences to the pineal glands true function. How else would they get you to think that flouride is good for yor brain when in reality it cuts off your spiritual connection thus making you numb.
@SuperSam424 "They put the label "CLAIM" on something that is common knowledge in the field” --> It was once common knowledge that the world was flat.
Common knowledge does not indicate correct knowledge. Questioning what is accepted as fact without justification should not be criticized, if so then you either have something to hide, or you cant justify your position
religous people do not have morals and they dont not refrain from doing bad things because of love for god they refrain from doing bad things because they are scared. they think if they do bad things then their imaginary friend will send them to burn in hell for all eternity. how is that morals? its not morals its just fear. when an athiest refrains from doing a bad thing it is only morals because they have nothing to fear
JAKETHEGREAT11100 20 hours ago
also rachel maddow claiming her lib rights with the hair in her face
JohnTightlips 1 day ago
When they break the law No we will win in the end. There is no need to even try. Just believe what you believe the truth will come out regardless of your faith. I am an atheist by the way.
JohnTightlips 1 day ago
@dolerbom You atheists are such hypocrites. You deny God and denounce religion but still
want to celebrate Christmas, which is a Christian holiday, and it wouldn't even exit if it weren't for God/Jesus and religion. I'll tell you what, I'm going to follow Jesus and the Virgin Mary and
Joan of Arc and Bernadette of Lourdes to wherever they're going, and you atheists can follow
that scum Richard Dawkins to wherever he's going, which is to eternal nothingness, and
good luck with that!
burkewhb 1 day ago
@burkewhb
Christmas is a pagan holiday not christian.
9N8X 1 day ago
@9N8X Christmas is from the old English, "Christ's Mass", and it is indeed a Christian
holiday. It falls on Dec. 25th, because the Feast of the Annunciation (the conception of
Jesus in Mary) is Mar. 25th. The Christian holiday happens to fall very close to the Roman celebration of the Winter Solstice (the birth of the sun when it is the furthest
south during the year, usually around Dec. 21st, the shortest day of the year). No pagan religion ever celebrated Christ's birth.
burkewhb 23 hours ago
@burkewhb
Not sure if trolling or just really stupid.
9N8X 22 hours ago
@9N8X Drop dead, you insolent scum!
burkewhb 21 hours ago
@burkewhb
u mad?
9N8X 21 hours ago
@burkewhb you must have deleted your other reply to me but, we can celebrate whatever we want. We mostly just put another holiday on the same date as Christmas i guess... We do not do what you do on Christmas, but we celebrate it our own way because we mostly made our own holiday. Also the U.S was not founded by Christians. We had separation of church and state in our constitution for a reason. Christmas used to be like the holiday you are talking about, but now it is not.
dolerbom 18 hours ago
@dolerbom OK. I concede you can celebrate Christmas any way you want. I'm Catholic, and I admit that the Catholic Church has brought its own problems on itself. I think any priest who molests a child should be put against a wall and shot. What bothers me about atheism is when a guy like Richard Dawkins calls the Virgin Mary
a "cosmic doormat" and the Immaculate Conception "a disgusting concept". He insults many people's deepest beliefs for no good reason and causes deep hatred.
burkewhb 16 hours ago
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burkewhb 1 day ago
just kill your self if you dont believe in god
MegaDemonte 2 days ago
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i think live and let live, but in all honesty atheists should not be allowed to raise children. maybe if those poor, Godless souls did not teach thier children to hate God we would not have so much evil in the world. i am sure it is seductive to feel special and different, but really you are in the clutches of satan himself. he cant give you courage, only fear. turn away from that path and the Lord will always welcome you home no matter what you have done :):):)
MegaDemonte 2 days ago
So, what the ignorant, fool is saying, is that he is TIRED of Atheists trying to infringe upon his rights to infringe upon peoples rights. DAMN THOSE ATHEISTS! Is it really that hard for Christians not to brainwash people in schools and public too? Do they not brainwash enough children from parents or in the church?
dolerbom 1 week ago
Did this Rev. enjoy a bottle of liquor before this broadcast or does he always exhibit himself as an idiot?
The primary leaders of the so-called founding fathers of our nation were not Christian; they were deist.
Uberboy07 1 week ago
This is why i am glad to live in sweden when peoples arguments makes sense, intelligent and atheists, i'm not very religious i hate religion but i love jesus, he's the only one that actually brings peace and makes lives better. Religion and god makes the world toa horrible place because people have such huge egos
darthgabriel97 1 week ago
@darthgabriel97 how can you believe in jesus but not the bible or god? The fuck? I remember watching a video about this... look up TheAmazingAtheist on youtube, and go to the i hate religion but love jesus video....
dolerbom 1 week ago
that black guy is a fucking moron.. not because hes black, hes really a moron
xXDISASTERPIECE934Xx 1 week ago
that Reverend is just dumb enough that Steve Harney might hang out with him
MrKGatl 1 week ago
Gosh, I hate when this so-called Rev. Patterson. And I'm a black guy who believes in God. He's the joke that Fox always brings on to argue their points. I dont know how he got on CNN....
lfranklin27 2 weeks ago
I am beginning to see a theme that the most religious countries happen to ranks low in terms of economic wealth. Within those countries is seems that the economically most disadvantaged groups are the most religious. Can this suggest that although America has the highest GDP in the world, the vast majority are religious because many of them are not able to enjoy the fruits of their own labor,which magically seems to end up in the hands of the top 1%?
Dannyboi49 2 weeks ago
*yawn* This panel is discriminatory. If CNN hate atheists, and followers of other religions so much they might as well get a room with the KKK and the Neo-Nazis.
hipeter924 2 weeks ago 5
those of us who choose to not believe in a god, get our morals from our consciences and our critical thinking abilities which tell us society would be a better place to live in, if we all followed certain guidelines. like not stealing from or killing each other. it just makes for a better world to live in, duh! but, thank goodness christians believe in their "God" because it seems their feeble minds would be first in line to do the killing and stealing. and aint that the truth! AMEN!
orbitalsatellite 2 weeks ago
@orbitalsatellite "those of us who choose to not believe in a god” --> You choose to believe? So you could choose to believe in Allah, or unicorns? You could choose to believe that theres a pot of gold at the end of a rainbow?
BaneOfAzrael 1 week ago
@BaneOfAzrael huh? did you read my comment properly? there is no allah, no unicorns, no rainbow gold and no god.
orbitalsatellite 1 week ago
@orbitalsatellite I did read your comment properly, perhaps you misunderstood mine. You’ve implied that belief in God is a choice.
How is belief a choice?
BaneOfAzrael 1 week ago
"choice", noun, defined as an act of selecting or making a decision when faced with two or more possibilities. "choose", verb, defined as picking out or selecting someone or something, as being the best or most appropriate of two or more alternatives. or, deciding on a course of action, typically after rejecting alternatives.
orbitalsatellite 1 week ago
We pull our morals out of our ass like everyone else now stfu dumbass!
adam78180 2 weeks ago
"Radical homosexual moment" I love it lmfao. I would take it that guy is a stereotypical christian.
ThatSkeptic 2 weeks ago
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Idontlikedogs1010 2 weeks ago
Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr. described bigots with the following quote: "The mind of a bigot is like the pupil of the eye; the more light you pour upon it, the more it will contract."
TheOkami1113 3 weeks ago
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TheOkami1113 3 weeks ago
Wow that black guy is a fucking redneck he sounds like a fucking confederate
DremordDrale 3 weeks ago
This was a bad example of communication. Loaded questions abound and a man that wouldn't let her answer a question. Morals are observable guys, they are not divine....we learned what is moral through our social nature. You don't have to believe in god to KNOW that killing someone is wrong.
Antimidation 3 weeks ago
I'm 100% sure the black preacher never read the bible in his life. Of course he doesn't want to see Christian beliefs washed away. He makes millions of dollars raping the minds of old black ladies hoping for a happy ending when they die, pays no taxes, drives expensive cars and wears designer suits. Jesus is big business.
GrooTheWanderer80 3 weeks ago
@GrooTheWanderer80 agreed!
spareld 3 weeks ago
that black dude is so ignorant. (im not racist, i just didnt catch his name)
debenni 3 weeks ago
just because america was made from christian belief, doesn't mean it has to stay that way. it's okay to tweak it, especially because it's the right thing to do in this case.
debenni 3 weeks ago
To be honest (and somewhat racist, you've been warned), I thought a Black man would be more sympathetic to the cause of people who have been discriminated against.
pipolwes000 3 weeks ago
@pipolwes000 and why would a black man be any more sympathetic against discrimination if he's never experience discrimination his self?
spareld 3 weeks ago
@spareld well that's true, just because he's a black man doesn't mean he's necessarily aware of the oppression his race has gone through in the United States but I highly doubt it. That's one of the biggest questions in the Atheist community "why aren't more black people atheists?" it's cultural but at the same time ironic....they embrace a religion that enslaved them and clearly justifies slavery in it's writing. Riddle me that.
Antimidation 3 weeks ago 8
@Antimidation oh I agree with you totally...I'm sure there are black atheist out there i'm for sure one of them...but just like you said it's a cultural thing and a lot of black people are fearful of what their family and community might think of them
spareld 3 weeks ago
Comedy video: "Lets try and solve two vastly different methods of thinking....IN 4 MINUTES AND 27 SECONDS!"
And that's why I don't watch Ritalin TV. I mean American TV, I mean, shiny shiny, OH GOD THE PICTURES ARE MOVING AND THEY CALL IT TV AND WHEN DID I LAST HAVE A MCDONALDS?!
Lollocide 3 weeks ago
That's not a black man; that's a nigger. Chris Rock would agree.
PaladinHero 4 weeks ago
id shut those ingnorant bible thumpers up so super quick itd be faster than the virgin marry's conception
mephisto279 4 weeks ago
we get our morals from society and those who raise us
mephisto279 4 weeks ago
I feel sorry for American people of reason to have to live among so many "people of faith" (i.e. gullible, uncritical, self-righteous and dangerous)!
boomtao 1 month ago
christians get their morals from the bible... the same bible that says its okay to beat your slave as long as you dont kill them. (Exodus 20:21.12) hmmm
10royals10 1 month ago
Atheist like to boo hoo about the way they are treated. They made their bed by their own choices. Let them sleep in it.
mrtadreamer 1 month ago
@mrtadreamer Belief in a God is not a choice.
Just like you cannot consciously choose to believe in unicorns, fairies.. Jimmy the magical flying turtle, etc.
BaneOfAzrael 3 weeks ago
@BaneOfAzrael
Mark 16:15-17
(NKJV)
15 And He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature. 16 He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned. 17 And these signs will follow those who believe: In My name they will cast out demons; they will speak with new tongues.
mrtadreamer 3 weeks ago
@BaneOfAzrael Joshua 24:15 And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.
The CHOICE is yours to make.
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BaneOfAzrael 3 weeks ago
@BaneOfAzrael I'll tell you the truth any way I want to, and you don't get to decide the ways or means, and what you choose to dismiss or not isn't my problem. I don't care.
mrtadreamer 3 weeks ago
@mrtadreamer your inability to provide evidence shows your dishonest. The snarky attitude shows immaturity.
You’ve given no proof, you’ve given claims. WIthout evidence your claims cannot be considered truth. Its as simple as that. I’m fairly confidence that you’re full of bs. Prove me wrong.
BaneOfAzrael 3 weeks ago
@BaneOfAzrael You can play the "evidence", "proof" card or anything else. I'll still state the truth. You can be confident of that.
mrtadreamer 3 weeks ago
@mrtadreamer based on your conduct and words I can only be confident of your dishonest, and disingenuousness. I can suspect the devious and malicious nature
BaneOfAzrael 3 weeks ago
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BaneOfAzrael 3 weeks ago
@BaneOfAzrael The atheist community is welcome to it's own worldview. Pity away.
mrtadreamer 3 weeks ago
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@mrtadreamer "The atheist community is welcome to it's own worldview. Pity away.” -> you didn’t understand.
I wasn’t using an “atheist world-view” I pointed out the implications of your actions based on the religion you follow.
BaneOfAzrael 3 weeks ago
@mrtadreamer As I said, Belief is not a choice. Do you dispute this?
BaneOfAzrael 3 weeks ago
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@BaneOfAzrael Joshua 24:15 And if it seems evil to you to serve the LORD, choose for yourselves this day whom you will serve, whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the River, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land you dwell. But as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.”
The CHOICE is STILL yours to make.
mrtadreamer 3 weeks ago
@mrtadreamer but lets go with this “I don’t care” claim. Since your ultimate goal is to somehow twist these claims to support your religious claims, we can not judge you as a disingenuous and perhaps even malicious person. After all in your mind your religion is correct and all those who do not believe will suffer a hell that words cannot begin to describe. not caring about your fellow man, and withholding essential information that will effect their eternity paints you as a rather nasty person
BaneOfAzrael 3 weeks ago
@mrtadreamer To save others I would give my life. it appears you wouldn’t even give a few minutes of your ‘precious” time to give proof and evidence to save others from a fate worse than death.
If your God is all-knowing, just and loving, and is brutal enough to make hell for those who don’t believe, I can’t imagine what he has in store for those hide the truth from his creation
BaneOfAzrael 3 weeks ago
@BaneOfAzrael Jesus gave His life to save yours, and He gave the Gospil of Salvation to show you how to obtain it.
mrtadreamer 3 weeks ago
The pastor said "Christians get their morals from God...from the Bible...".
Well, apparently these morals would include stoning your unruly children to death and murdering anyone working on the sabbath. Slaughtering an entire town of disbelieving men, women, and children (including infants) but exempting the young virgin girls so they can be raped. Slavery was also condoned throughout both testaments, from Genesis to Revelation.
This is pathetic. His argument is utterly ridiculous.
CynicalSkeptic1 1 month ago
"radical homosexual movement..." wow.... "Where do you get you're ethics from?" Well, I get my ethics from an old book written by people who slaughtered animals and people to appease their god... oh, no, that's the monotheists! right, I remember now. lol
skywize 1 month ago
1:44 oh the irony...
red666111 1 month ago
Atheists treat others with rationalism, compassion and justice. Atheists believe in human rights and individual freedom. Atheists do not judge others based on a book written by desert nomads and opportunists in Rome 325 CE.
TheSpeaknoevil 1 month ago 12
@TheSpeaknoevil "Atheists are everything the modernday, propagated, evil "Christians" are not" IS NOT AN ARGUMENT OUT OR REASON. YOU SIMPLY TOOK YOUR ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT CHRISTIANS AND STATED THAT ATHEISTS ARE NOT THOSE THINGS WHEN IN REALITY ATHEISTS JUST LIE ABOUT EVERYTHING. THATS IT. THERE IS NO COMPLEXITY TO THEM. THEY JUST SAY WHAT THEY WANT TO BE LIKE AND LIE ABOUT WHATEVER, WHENEVER. THEY BELEIVE IN RELATIVE FREEDOM BUT SHOUT "NO!!" WHEN FREEDOM OF EVIL ATTEMPTS TO GAIN GROUND. IDIOTS.
SuperSam424 2 weeks ago
@SuperSam424 Deluded brain-washed moron addicted to the moses-jesus opium. Wake up. Your Old Testament is a hebrew myth & the New Testament were written in Rome 362 CE by self-serving powerful men - a compilation of various Jesus sects and European fairy tales. Your god does not exist and if that lunatic Jesus did exist, he is long dead.
TheSpeaknoevil 2 weeks ago
@TheSpeaknoevil You're a fucking idiot. Generalizations show nothing but STUPIDITY. Atheists are nothing but indifferent, unintelligent people who simply don't want to have to answer to anybody aka they are antichrist everything with the "reasoning" of "JUST BECAUSE". Philosophically speaking God MUST EXIST. Disprove the only truism in existence. I dare you. And you're not allowed to use anything eternal (YOU DON'T BELIEVE IN THE METAPHYSICAL WORLD). GO.
SuperSam424 1 week ago
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@SuperSam424 "You're a fucking idiot. Generalizations show nothing but STUPIDITY. Atheists are nothing but indifferent...” ---> lol, this is rich, not only are you a foul mouthed jackass but you just broke your own damned rule.
You said that Generalizations show nothing but stupidity, and then you go on to generalize all atheists.
BaneOfAzrael 1 week ago
Atheist get their morals from their parents and anyone they hang around with long enough. That is why, some people are good and some are bad. Including Theists.
TRYER25 1 month ago
im agnostic. Yeah anybody who says they believe in god. But dont go to church. You must be a closeted atheist. I believe in separation church and state. But I dont think having a nativity scene for one mouth is a major violation. Also most Anti Theist are just interested the church and state. The could care less about the FIRST amendment. Or that fact this country guarantees religious freedom. In that way you people are no better then Republicans who only care about 2ed amendment.
Lone432345 1 month ago
typical, asks a question and doesnt let the atheist answer
NamedJesse 1 month ago
Fact 1: The words "one nation under God" were only added to the Pledge of Allegiance during the 1800s. These words were NOT on the original Pledge.
Fact 2: The founding fathers were mostly deist and truly believed in a separation between church and state. They did NOT want religion in politics.
Fact 3: The words "in God we trust" were only added to the US dollar bills in the 1960s. These words were NOT on the original dollar bills.
Conclusion: America is NOT a nation founded on God and Jebus.
foojuice101 1 month ago
I'm atheist and I'm against all forms of human suffering. It's easy to be moral lol I just always put myself in the other person's shoes. BOOM BANG POW
lupefanatic08 1 month ago
It always amuses me when the self righteous christians get on their high horses and spout about morality.
Morality in itself MUST be innate for if it wasn`nt then mankind could never have made it this far.
ALL religions are that of man,designed specifically to obstruct the enhancement of our species,to stultify our never ending aspirations to seek wisdom.
Religion is cancerous and should be dealt with accordingly.
Religion Poisons Everything.
The Hitch spoke the truth to the last breath.
naybobdenod 1 month ago
The black guy is a moron. He believes in the same religion that enslaved his people from the start. His African ancestors are turning in their graves right now. Real African spiritual knowledge has been destroyed and replaced with Christianity, right a long with many other cultures. People should be outraged instead of believing the shit.
Severe777 1 month ago
@Severe777 That always bothered me, but I've always wondered where the PC line is, so I was always silent. I think it's idiotic for any race of people who were forced into Christianity... which accounts for most of this planet, to continue to believe in it. Sure, I understand when you are forced into slavery, or facing torture or death to 'convert', but those problems no longer exist... in most places... that don't burn your ass for Witchcraft...
skywize 1 month ago
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Severe777 1 month ago
Black guy = typical bigoted christian!
xusmcguy 1 month ago
Black guy sounds like Holyfield: everybody know that god be true my god be the only true god...
Kneleist 1 month ago
The small-minded guy representing Christianity says he gets his morals and ethics from the BIble, but yet he doesn't know that the Bible specifically says that you can't wear clothes made from more than one material, something he is doing. Obviously, he's going to hell. Religion is stupid. Deuterenomy 22:11 Darby Bible Translation
Thou shalt not wear a garment of mixed material, woven of wool and linen together.
JukiBelak 1 month ago
@JukiBelak As a christian .Im offended by this video too, why is the savage darky not a slave in a field? It clearly states how to treat your slave and that servants should serve their masters.Also states that the sins of the father shall pass down to the sun.So what is this civil rights and abolition of slavery bullshit?The bible says only isrealites have true rights not gentiles!! - this is the true face of the bible, i am atheist and would rather go by moral views not bigotry and hatred. :)
Thelondonbadger 1 month ago
Someone inform me when they have documentation that America was founded on religion and god
bendrinkin19 1 month ago
Dat Nigger
hectichorse 1 month ago
Alright, that Reverend is a complete fucktard; interrupting, asking irrelevant questions, not understanding the Constitution, not pronouncing anything correctly... he almost impresses me.
TwistedLemniscate 1 month ago
why is it that everyone who pronounces "americans" as "amarikins" tends to be full of shit?
TwistedLemniscate 1 month ago
cant remember the exact quote but "man is the only animal with a god, and many of them" - mark twain
askdjflasf 1 month ago
The preacher has no clue as to the religious history of this country.
Stridet 1 month ago
It's always such great irony that the great majority of Christians I see debating so diligently are blacks, not realizing, I suppose, that their "adoption" of western religion came from hundreds of years of being owned in this country and being forced into believing that specific religion.
mrfrenik 1 month ago
" This great country was built on the idea of God, family, slavery, lack of woman rights, why would they want to change that, and take out discrimination out of the lives of Americans" "same with the radical homosexual movement. They tried to make everyone else gay...." Was all I heard out of that guys mouth.
18booma 1 month ago
@18booma same answer as any other Christian
smiley17777777 1 month ago
This subject needs hours of debate, not seconds. This "debate" is pointless.
jbat100 1 month ago 21
@jbat100 minutes
DremordDrale 3 weeks ago
If you get your morals from the bible, you're crazy. Read it and you'll see.
jbat100 1 month ago
"where do you get your morals from if not from god?" So for the entire 50000+ years that humans were evolving into their current state all they did was murder and pillage and rape? but THEN some 3 or 4000 years ago ago they finally could stop doing that because god gave them the ten commandments? and christians really believe this .... Morals are innate to humans if they would not be we wouldn't have survived as a species. end of story, now go find a new argument fo us to laugh at.
Epostaxis 1 month ago
This shitskin is all tangled up in his ebonics 'n sheat. Does black skin turn you into a worthless sack of shit? In the cast of this dangerous nigger, this is true. Atheists are the top of the heap, We are the upper crust of Humanity. The faithful are vermin. Time for the gas me thinks
699backstab 1 month ago
@699backstab That is true, but racists are the bottom of the heap. So I'd gas you too.
fenderkid6 1 month ago
@fenderkid6 Subhuman, where do you get that I am a racist?
699backstab 1 month ago
@699backstab "This shitskin is all tangled up in his ebonics 'n sheat." Perhaps it is you who is a subhuman moron? Food for thought. (which, incidentally, you are incapable of.)
fenderkid6 1 month ago
@fenderkid6 That doesn't make me a racist dipshit. You wouldn't know racist if it came served to you by a hooked nose needle fingered kike oven dodger
699backstab 1 month ago
@699backstab I'm ever so sorry for interupting your goosestepping to wagner, please resume at once and stop commenting.
fenderkid6 1 month ago
@fenderkid6 Your comment is not funny. Making a joke about the extermination of 6 thousand Jews is a crime against Humanity son. Im off to rape Jesus Christ and give Allah a pigblood transfusion. America remember you earned 9/11 and one day you will bring the American government to justice because it is they that planned 9/11 thank you
699backstab 1 month ago
The faithful don't like Atheists because Atheists are religions Kryptonite. Religion is a cancer on the Human spirit. Religion is a dark empty barbaric place in the minds of weak people. Knowledge and intelligence makes religion cower. Atheists run planet Earth. Atheists tolerate (for now) the faithful, We take care of them in the same light as We take care of retarded and crippled people. We do this because our morality was born from evolution. It is sound and pure. It is proven to work.
699backstab 1 month ago
lol "it's ok to do that, just don't change amuuurica"
Wahanamo2345 2 months ago
1) The questions were all loaded (Christians think that atheists are morally compromised. Are YOU morally compromised?)
2) The reverend kept interrupting every time the atheists tried to make their point.
3) The way the email was worded made it sound like the person wanted to take rights away from the religious. Separation of church and state is about ensuring equality between ALL beliefs and preventing tyranny of the majority in government.
ChibiMiddleFinger 2 months ago 16
Black and religous a very bad combination.
wowamonn 2 months ago
you start talking ethics then you are already trying to figure out a way to justify, to be seen in a positive light while still carry a negative nature
lunaticial 2 months ago
LOL Rachel's haircut
xXShunketsuXx 2 months ago
That reverend guy was very rude, while the atheist woman was very respectful. He suggests atheists are pushing their lifestyle on 'mericans.
GaaraLover1792 2 months ago
Lol I'm sorry but did he really start with a double put down, you're godless and hippocratic, so I guess we're scratching the whole discussion thing.
theharvards 2 months ago
Oh God. Of course the black people would say that about atheist. My people, my people.
BabyGirlGoddess 2 months ago
its sad to see a black man being such a blatant bigot after all his people have been through because of bigotry and its even sadder to see him getting away with it on national television
kris6682 2 months ago
@kris6682
i agree. I don't understand why so many black people cling the religion that was forced on our ancestors.
BabyGirlGoddess 2 months ago
God damn! (figuratively of course - since there is no God) That priest is stupid!
DickyTracy 2 months ago
The world will never stop believing in gods and ghosts, no matter how much non-believers try to make them see things their way. I hope one day, our beliefs in the supernatural will be so personal, that they are irrelevant to conversation and media discourse.
Jayel805 2 months ago
Whoa, check out Rachel's hair!
curlytoes79 2 months ago
I'm glad to be European, in Europe people are skeptical, reasonable and all teachers not-christian...
Diffrentjamsith 2 months ago
@Diffrentjamsith lucky.
RottingCorpse100 2 months ago
yea atheists aren't moral and religious people are. Is that why priests rape little kids?
MrMacDarra 2 months ago
@MrMacDarra ...lol, closet atheists...lmao, you're all gay
Drebln893 2 months ago
@Drebln893 now, now, is that something Jesus would say?
MrMacDarra 2 months ago
@MrMacDarra ...lol, yep! You know you're laughing your ass of too... XD
Drebln893 2 months ago
@Drebln893 not at all, I personally know plenty of my friends don't publicly say they are atheist in fear of social persecution. Luckily I just don't care what religious people think of me, they are the ones who believe in a magic invisible man in the sky
MrMacDarra 2 months ago
Any Majority does not "assume" anything right simply being predicated within any supposition within any belief... Where has any trust wthin any deity gotten anyone? Even the good book points out that No One has ever seen God at anytime, (John) which questions what anyone knows about what they think and dont know' define Moral? There are too many generalizations on both sides which has everything to do with pandering andany fact that isoften compelled todefend what they donot know about anything
DrFruedienslip 2 months ago
Except the Constitution only references religin 3 time.
1) Forbidding religious tests for office
2) Forbidding relgious based laws
Here is the big one,,,,,ready?
3) Saying "In the year of our lord" for the date
whiteowl1415 2 months ago
you don't need jesus to be a just person.. the Revs question is flawed in being that isn't a question.. it's an assumption that he thinks is real.
Zoofiend 2 months ago
The religuous guy obviously has some internal filter, removing anything that opposes his current beliefs. You must have understood that these are coded in our dna, and the result is the product of dna and social conditioning. Statistics support this.
Robin90modell 2 months ago
THIS CLOWN THEY KEEP CALLING RICHARD DAWKINS IS A 2 TIME CLOWN NAME JESSIE PETERSON NOT ONLY IS HE A INTOLERABLE IGNORANT FUCK HE HATES HIS OWN PEOPLE, NOW TAKE A CLOSE LOOK AT THIS PICTURE , AND SEE HOW GOD LIKE THAT IS. I'LL GO FURTHER IM STARTING TO THINK THAT BEING GOD LIKE OR GODS CHILDREN SHOULD BE A NEW CATCH PHRASE CONNOTATION FOR ANOTHER GROUP OF NUT JOBS WHO HATE ANYBODY OR ANYTHING THAT DON'T BELIEVE IN "THEIR" MAN MADE DOCTRINE OF HYPOCRISY THAT SUPPOSEDLY HAS A MONOPOLY ON TRUTH.
davisismail1comcast 3 months ago
Quote: 'Where do Atheists get their morals?'
He really thinks that's a good argument?
That's something Theists say when they have no argument left.
Morality is not a complicated thing to understand.
We each as individuals know how it feels to feel pain/oppression etc, so we strive towards helping eachother live a happy fulfilling life because we want the same for ourselves and society can function better if we live in a society where for instance, where you're able to live an openly gay life.
FunkyWhitePimp 3 months ago
@FunkyWhitePimp Actually it IS a good argument but way to spiritually deep for facevalue-judging atheists. Every human being has that unreachable desire for that one undescribable thing. The constitution calls it "persuit of happiness". The real reason why atheists are morally comprimised is because they deny their very foundation where all other foundations come from. They use their consciousness and deny it. Atheists are like "religious" people who are scared of not being accepted by God.
SuperSam424 3 months ago
@SuperSam424 You're a retard.
FunkyWhitePimp 3 months ago
@SuperSam424
What you said made no sense. "They use their conciousness and deny it"???
We do have a conciousness. As do other animals. How "evolved" this conciousness is in other animals is difficult to tell. Although the idea of our conciousness being linked to an immortal soul is pleasing, but unfortunately has big problems when trying to give a rational description of how this works. Our counciousness is a product of our brain activity, and therefore goes away when the brain "dies".
Robin90modell 2 months ago
@Robin90modell Actually, it makes perfect sense--you just haven't understood it metaphysically yet (aka you haven't thought about it). Your second paragraph is just invalid for it does not talk about anything I said. i never said atheists don't HAVE consciousness. I said they deny it. Your conscious is the mind of Christ. That's the reason it is universal. And all your 'scientific" mumbojumbo is simply describing the physical structure of the brain--NOT the conscious itself. Stop assuming things
SuperSam424 2 months ago
@SuperSam424
I'm saying conciousness arise from the physical structure/activity of the brain. Clearly our physical brain does process lots of information. I'm now asking you, what is it exactly about our conciousness that comes from outside our brain. Does it have memory? Is it responsible for making decisions? Is it responsible for making strategic decisions in a real time strategy game?
Robin90modell 2 months ago
@Robin90modell False. A consciousness has no beginning, thus it must always exist--somewhere. This is philosophical FACT. Our brain is a mere biological computer that interprets the consciousness through physical processes. It is quite clear and self-evident that all humans possess invisible qualities.And to answer your question, our consciousness can do much more than our physical brain maps out.
SuperSam424 2 months ago
@SuperSam424
You say it can do much more. I ask what is that. When we play a strategy game, we make decisions. What building to build and so on. Is it our physical brain that makes these decisions, or are these made by this non-physical part? Is it a combination? If so, what is each part responsible for?
What are these invisible qualities all humans posess?
Robin90modell 2 months ago
@Robin90modell Just look at the metaphysical powers Jesus had as a child. He created living birds from clay, He killed people via his words, He was able to heal, He was able to change things at their molecular level, He KNEW EVERYTHING..ect Understand that our spirit is being monsterably limited by our physical brain. Everything is spiritual--the physical just allows the right functions through. We see malfunctions with things like psychics and ppl who are physically magnetic.
SuperSam424 2 months ago
@Robin90modell Oh, and we all have different spirits, thus we all have different spitual qualities. For example, no one can lie to me.
SuperSam424 2 months ago
@SuperSam424
How ironic, that no one can lie to you ;)
Still, I'm curious about the strategy question. we need to have control over what our enemy is doing, what we have built, upgraded, where our units and buildings are, where possible resources are, estimating our and opponents strength, trying to predict what our enemy will do and so on.
Is the "spirit" responsible for making decisions based on this information, or is it the physical brain?
Robin90modell 2 months ago
@Robin90modell Strategies? Those things are called the laws of logic. They are discovered metaphysically and are thus eternal. They come with God. Look at it like this. We are a spirit. We have a body. Our spirit is constantly communicating using eternal metaphysical words. If we were in THE perfect state--we would be able to manifest ALL metaphysical concepts here. But we can't, as if we're in some lower dimension that only allows time/space/matter. SpiriHoly x Gods Will= phsical structure
SuperSam424 2 months ago
@SuperSam424
Some research shows changes in the brain structure after playing games. Why is that so (if research is correct), if the physical brain isn't responsible for these things.
What do you mean by the word eternal? Strategies are eternal? what does that mean?
Robin90modell 2 months ago
@Robin90modell Yes, the brain does undergo physical changes from physical and mental stimuli. But the thing you must understnad is that cognitive scientists have a very hard time unmingiling the conscious part and the processess part of the brain. They both seem to have something to do with each other and its THAT that has scientists on edge. It seems like our brain is REFERING to something that in ESSSENCE is not at all physical but eternal (meaning something that doesnt die and alywas existed)
SuperSam424 2 months ago
@SuperSam424
Any sources. Our brain is extremely complex so don't expect that question to be answered very soon. It's probably not a specific part of the brain, but there may be a network that is especially significant to our conciousness. Ofcourse testing which part is responsible for conciousness would be extremely difficult, primarily because conciousness is so loosely defined. You may be able to find parts that are responsible for the more specific like logic though.
Robin90modell 2 months ago
@Robin90modell No, whatever is actually RUNNING our brain is NOT physical. We know this as fact. There would be no cognitive philosopher who disagree's. The notion of the black box has been around forever. Not to mention NDE's. Oh, and the Pineal Gland is responsible for our spiritual senses. True story.
SuperSam424 2 months ago
@SuperSam424
Near death is not actually death. There can still be some brain activity, which can cause all theses sorts of near death experiences. Right, you can look the phineal gland up on wikipedia, there's nothing mystic about it. A cognitive philosopher? How about someone who ACTUALLY studies the brain, don't you think they're more likely to come to conclusions on what our brain can and can't do? Are you really being serious?
Robin90modell 2 months ago
@SuperSam424 You're either a brilliant troll, or horribly delusional. If the former, then bravo sir. If the latter...Well then I'm afraid there's no hope for you.
Lectricfuneral 2 months ago
@Lectricfuneral Keep telling yourself I'm just a brilliant fool as if that makes sense. In reality, it makes more sense that I am just brilliant and correct and you are the one who is actually trolling..as I am and as you actually are. Clicking my name is like clicking into the real matrix. Yes, it eixsts.
SuperSam424 2 months ago
@SuperSam424 Troll, got it. Thanks for clearing that up.
Lectricfuneral 2 months ago
@Lectricfuneral Do you call everyone who's smarter than you a troll? You such call us something with a better connotation. If WE are the trolls then you guys are the maggots we eat.
SuperSam424 2 months ago
@SuperSam424 No, I call people that get on the internet and spew random garbage, that they may or may not actually believe, in an attempt to get people mad trolls. You know, people that are trolling. But personally I find you people quite entertaining. So I'm willing to play into your charade as long as you're willing to keep it up.
Lectricfuneral 2 months ago
@Lectricfuneral "random garbage"....Where are you getting this fact from you dishonest human being. I have already told you. My information is not random. It comes from years of RESEARCH. RESEARCH AS IN NOT WHATEVER YOU THINK I DO TO GET MY INFORMATION. You seriously have the odassity to simply make stuff up? Murderer. and FALSE, TRUTH gets people mad. Not my fucking intentions. DISHONEST HUMAN BEING. None of your words had any truth to them. You know this. And you obviously can't keep up.
SuperSam424 2 months ago
@SuperSam424 u mad bro?
Lectricfuneral 2 months ago
@Lectricfuneral Asking if I'm mad as an argument? Not working nor are you inferring anything in any shape or form. You're clearly just a dishonest human being. Not worth time.
SuperSam424 2 months ago
@SuperSam424 Never said I was arguing. I already know that you're a stubborn, delusional, jackass that despite any amount of rationality or logic, will continue your bigoted and completely misguided views of atheism and atheists. So why should I bother wasting my time arguing with you? It's much more fun to laugh at how absurdly angry you get at relatively nothing.
Lectricfuneral 2 months ago
@Lectricfuneral You're making sound thus you're attempting to argue no matter what you say. And I only get angry at dishonesty. Your accusations towards me are nothing more than that--just accusations. You have no foundation for your words--it's hilarious watching your try to form a true statement.
SuperSam424 2 months ago
@SuperSam424 The act of simply replying automaticly means I'm arguing? You think what you're saying is brilliance, but all that that's coming out is "Crazy, crazy, crazy."
Lectricfuneral 2 months ago
@Lectricfuneral 1. "No matter what you say" aka you know what you were trying to do. 'You mad bro" is a way of simply undermining something aka trying to make my words sound weightless. This is dumb on your part. Simple IGNORance is not an argument. Let's get something clear. You lie. I don't. You no longer have freedom to speak without being dissected first. you lost all respect from me. Not that you care.
SuperSam424 2 months ago
@SuperSam424 No, it was meant to show you that your attempts to insult me don't phase me. And you've spent a lot of time calling me a liar, which I find confusing since I'm simply stating what I've observed. And wether wrong or not they're observations, making them opinions. One's opinions cannot be a lie as much as they can't be true. And until you present this "research" that all your insanity is molded around, you're the only liar here.
Lectricfuneral 2 months ago
@Lectricfuneral Why would you care if you're getting insulted? You began them but you can't take them? Please. Underminging facts I have researched for years is just insulting alone and you hate God on top of that. You are not stating what you observed you dishonest human being. You lie.
SuperSam424 2 months ago
@SuperSam424 Again, present the research. Until then you're the liar. And I don't hate god. I have no opinion on him. You are the one full of hate. You are the one going on about anyone not believe in god, or not blindly following your rambling insanity, is immoral. And I've stated several times what I observed. That you are either a, trolling. Or b, insane.
Lectricfuneral 2 months ago
@SuperSam424 " the Pineal Gland is responsible for our spiritual senses. True story.” --> If this is true then could you provide the academic journals in which this information is published and point me towards the labs or university that tested this claim?
BaneOfAzrael 3 weeks ago
@BaneOfAzrael False. If this were true there would be ZERO academic journals on it.
SuperSam424 3 weeks ago
@SuperSam424 "A consciousness has no beginning, thus it must always exist--somewhere. This is philosophical FACT” --> saying “this is true” or “this is a fact” is silly.
Don’t tell us you have truth, show us. Intelligent people are not going to turn off their critical thinking skills and accept everything you dish out, and ignore the unjustified claims.
Please provide evidence to back up your claims.
BaneOfAzrael 3 weeks ago
@BaneOfAzrael ...Show you self evident philosophical facts??? That is non-sensical. Do not ask for "evidence" for a immaterial metaphysical reality. That's "silly", like you're half-assed assumption about Christ not being the son of God.
SuperSam424 3 weeks ago
@SuperSam424 "Show you self evident philosophical facts?”
Can’t you read? I was very specific. Ie. Your claim about the Pineal Gland being our “Spiritual sensor”
BaneOfAzrael 3 weeks ago
@BaneOfAzrael See this is why atheists waste my time when "debating". They put the label "CLAIM" on something that is common knowledge in the field. There are magickal and occultic qualities to all minerals and minerals make up EVERYTHING. OF COURSE there are going to be no secular refrences to the pineal glands true function. How else would they get you to think that flouride is good for yor brain when in reality it cuts off your spiritual connection thus making you numb.
SuperSam424 3 weeks ago
@SuperSam424 "They put the label "CLAIM" on something that is common knowledge in the field” --> It was once common knowledge that the world was flat.
Common knowledge does not indicate correct knowledge. Questioning what is accepted as fact without justification should not be criticized, if so then you either have something to hide, or you cant justify your position
BaneOfAzrael 2 weeks ago