I think both are rights on some levels..personally i think a well balanced diet with both cooked and raw food..living in a nordic climate i think that having a raw diet in winter is not something that i would encourage for myself or my family..Personally i found it interesting reading the comments , to see how people take stands according to their personnal appearances .. They're both very pertinent..they're two different women and should not be judge upon their looks but upon their knowledge!
i went on a raw food diet for a week. i spent more time making the food than i would on a cooked food diet, and im sorry but it tastes gross. cooked food tastes good, is fast and easier digestable. however i do enjoy raw foods everyday, raw smoothies and juices, salads ect. the fact of the matter is that most "cook" diet includes raw foods, and is not fully cooked. i enjoy about a 50-50 at most raw food, cooked food.
I find raw food interesting. I however believe it is cooked to some degree. You're still heating somethings in raw food diets to atleast close to 100 degrees. I think perhaps what is interesting is, that you are not OVERCOOKING and therefore killing the goods in your food. I think that is the difference between "raw" food and cooked. I think "raw" food is a bad term for this way of eating. Perhaps something like Perfectly Cooked eating, or NOT OVERCOOKED food? lol i dunno. But I see both sides.
Brigitte understands something that Weed (& those of her ilk) will never undersand. Weed believes that life is a composition of molecules & chemical reactions. Brigitte's camp understand that there is a life force in the universe. An atom is more than 99% empty space, nothingness, yet in the inanimate molecular form compose vitamins, earth minerals, cells, etc. which act bring forth, nourish, & guide life! It's not about whether there's more a particular vitamin if you cook the food.
the fact is we need both! we need the chlorophyll and fiber of raw foods, and the flavor and easy assimilation of cooked foods...why one or the other?
most vegans thats were once cooked vegans testify that they feel younger and healthier, more mental clarity on a raw food diet than cooked vegan, this is a fact, THIS IS ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW, CASED CLOSED LOL!!
Not only are we not cats, we're a horrible comparison to them dietarily. Cats have an *extremely* restrictive diet. They are true carnivores - a rarity among mammals. Humans, on the other hand, have a digestive system (arguably our entire being) which is remarkably adaptable - we're like pigs - we can survive & thrive by om-nom-noming anything and everything that gets too close to our snouts.
Briggitte: "You can make all the same delicious dishes using raw food" - I can't say I agree with that... have you had steamed broccoli? It's one of the most wonderful substances on Earth!
Any vegetarian woman I know who's been tested (4; 3 who are over 50) has excellent bone density. From my understanding, and speaking with a couple of doctors on the subject, the primary cause for bone density loss (which is in essense, a function of age and sex (it happens faster in women)) in our culture is an over-abundance of protein. Excess protein strips calcium from our bones on its way out of our systems.
I like a lot of what BOTH of them are saying (and personally believe there's a balance to be found), but did anyone notice how Brigitte started every rebuttal by saying the exact same thing? oO
"Plant enzymes are much more stable over a wider pH and temperature range. The stomach is very acidic whereas the small intestine is more alkaline. This is why plant enzymes can work effectively in the stomach, whereas animal-derived or pancreatic enzymes cannot. Most pancreatic enzymes need to be enterically coated to survive the stomach environment."
I don't support any side, I just see the good and bad in both.
"The belief that stomach pH eliminates the benefits of supplemental enzymes is false. Research indicates that even though the pH of digestive secretions is quite low (pH 1.0 – 1.5), that once mixed with the food, the environmental pH ranges from 2.5 to 5.0 dependent upon the foods consumed. With this food buffering system, the environment does not harm the supplemental enzymes. In fact, many enzymes function best under these conditions."
Susan Weed is arguing using evidences, facts, history, and, well, science.
Brigitte Mars is arguing using only anecdotal evidence and emotion.
Susan Weed is, of course, utterly correct and full of facts. Brigitte Mars is full of misinformation, however, she comes off a bit emotional. Some people are swayed more by emotion than rationality though, so there's always that.
@missrawflower - The facts already exist. Eating raw food has been done for centuries during times of desperation. There's a reason food is cook, it makes it easier to digest and you get more nutrition. If our energies were always directed towards raw food metabolism, our guts would be twice as large and our brains much smaller. Cooked food is the reason we had the energy to evolve a bigger brain.
If you want to eat raw almonds and meats though, knock urself out. Emotion over facts.
Omg both is good for you in some ways more than others.... HOWEVER IF THE VITAMINS ENZYMES AND MINERALS ARE NOT THERE TO BEGIN WITH THEN THAT IS WHY WE ARE SUFFERING FROM DEFICANCYS AND HEALTH. ORGANIC VEGITABLES HAVE 15% MORE VITAMINS AND MINERALS THAN ALL THIS GMO FOODS OR PESTICIDES..... DUHHHHHHHHH ITS ALLL ABOUT BALENCE PEOPLE ......WHATS funny to me is Susan looks more unhealthy than Brigitt.......
Omg both is good for you in some ways more than others.... HOWEVER IF THE VITAMINS ENZYMES AND MINERALS ARE NOT THERE TO BEGIN WITH THEN THAT IS WHY WE ARE SUFFERING FROM DEFICANCYS AND HEALTH. ORGANIC VEGITABLES HAVE 15% MORE VITAMINS AND MINERALS THAN ALL THIS GMO FOODS OR PESTICIDES..... DUHHHHHHHHH ITS ALLL ABOUT BALENCE PEOPLE ......
who the hell wants to eat the same crap for 10 days lol.. and for the record there is no proof that eating cooked food made our "brains" bigger .. there are loads of animals that currently eat cooked food because of humans... i dont see anything going on with thier brains but do see a ton of illness.... ill just end it there ... its clear who is at the lead on this debate.. Raw foodies dont have the magic answer but they are certainly futher along in their results.
I agree with other posters, Brigitte is a much better picture of health. She may be a bit younger, but she seems to have aged gracefully
Sprouting cooks food...?
Susun is very aggressive, whereas Brigitte is more open & positive. She seems to believe it in a sort of "I believe it because I'm living it" Susun believes it because she read it in a book/scientific study. Those studies haven't cured our rising health crisis, but raw has cured cancer, diabetes, etc.
susun weed is full of sense. i don't know where anybody's head's at calling her a bitch. you want the information or you don't. she makes the case very well.
I am so over this debate. Let me debate this women she wont know what hit her. Raw food is the healthiest way to eat. I am 35 and look 23 that is not a accident I own much of my health to RAW food !
It is funny Brigitte says that although ppl may have healed from raw food they don't stay on the diet. Very true. Ppl didn't get overweight and sick because they make the best choices.
I think it is funny when people say "we have been eating meat for thousands of years , so it is healthy , or that we evolved to eat cooked foods . This shows a lack of understanding pf evolution , only changes in diet that would help or hinder reaching sexual maturity and passing on genetics does not affect natural selection as such . We also know that those cultures that live predominantly on meat have very short life spans . Doing something does not make it good or bad for you .
@MindofaJedi really, lets hear some examples then. And no one said you had to live predominantly on meat, only a few cultures are able to do this (and might i add they have no diabetes or heart problems until being introduced to 'western' diets)
@almayim Inuits and Eskimos have the shortest lifespans in the world and live on predominantly animal fat . The China Study clearly demonstrates the more plant based your diet is the longer you live . Gabriel Cousens has thousands of diabetes cures by putting his patients on HIGH CARB animal free diets . He is the foremost authority on diabetes in the world and a strong advocate for veganism as is William C. Roberts , possibly the most respected and published cardiologist in the world .
@alphamale300k 'Weed' applies to many plants, it is unfortunate that marijuana has overtaken the word in many people's minds. What do you think people are doing when they 'weed' their garden? (aside from throwing away useful nutrients, it has nothing to do with marijuana)
@almayim And how did you come to that conclusion? On her website she openly speaks about the negative effects of smoking. I think I hear someone jumping...
@Waylend She writes about vaporizing herself. I am well aware of the problems with smoking anything, but that's the individuals choice, i wasn't knocking her for it, just saying that she talks about it.
@almayim the terms smoking and vaporizing imply very different things. If you are ready to point that out about the term 'weed', be more specific in your own vocabulary.
@Waylend whatever, the point is she still uses marijuana, which many people are trying to diss Susan for as if Brigitte is innocent. It is not my thing, i can't be an expert on the subject if i'm not interested.
i don't believe our brains are any bigger since Adam and Eve 6000 years ago, I think in some ways we are getting more stupid, this Darwinism THEORY is proven wrong just by pure logic. the universe goes from order to disorder, not the other way around.
It's not random, animals which are better suited to there environment will have a better chance of surviving and producing offspring. Animals less suited to the environment have a better chance of dying young and not producing offspring.
You're wrong on that, Brigitte. You say if you cook in a teflon pan that any bird in the room will just die. My close friend cooks in teflon several times per day. She has a cockatiel and she also has a miniature parrot in the room. I have been there with the birds many times while she cooked. The birds are alive and apparently well after years of this.
@Mishumisu This is sort of true. There are many many chemicals in teflon which off gass at different temperatures, if you were to fry in teflon or preheat the pan (which would cause it to get very hot, above boiling) there could be enough chemical to kill a bird. As it is a gas it obviously depends on how ventilated your house is or how big it is. Birds have died but this does not mean they will always do so. It's still toxic, use clay, iron or stainless. I cook food, i don't touch teflon.
@almayim I don't even cook. I don't have teflon in my house, and rarely have birds. My friend's home is a trailer, and not very big. Maybe living in a trailer on a lake with lots of greenery and a big garden makes the air better. Doesn't matter anyway. Anything I would tell her for health, she'd ignore unless it's on FOX news. Just about everything she eats is deep fried at home too.
@almayim I don't touch teflon either. My friend's kitchen and home are small and she keeps the windows and door closed. I don't doubt it's unhealthy for birds and all animals. Her birds always appear healthy though.
Both of these women pay very particular attention to what goes in their mouths. They both want only whats best for their bodies. The big difference here is one choice keeps meat on your bones. Since when did appearance outweigh internal health and vivaciousness ... a bowl of cooked oats vs a raw green smoothie... hmm I wonder which will fill me best and sustain me throughout the day.... god forbid I have to chop wood or something.
I think Briggite looks great and she is extremely healthy. We are use to looking at people that are consistently 15 to 30 lbs over weight. America is addicted to food and we will go to great lengths to defend our addictions. You are what you eat and I think you can see that from this video. Keep it raw.....I feel great and people I don't even know tell me how great I look. A good read is The Omnivore's Dilemma by: Michael Pollen and also check out David Wolfe. Peace.
@mandicaura My bones were brittle at 12,I broke several easily.They're much denser & actually more youthful since I learned which foods are best for them & eat those.
Food is by far not the only thing to strengthen bones anyway.Proper hydration & good regular sleep rejuvenates bones like new again every day.Cooking your food isn't the only thing to give burn out,burning midnight oil also does. Sleep in a cool dark place. Yin & yang,balance in life,sun & nighttime, we're obsessed w/food & light.
I have met Briggite in person. She is frail, sure she looks good - But her hair is also dyed, she's wearing makeup, and she probably went down a few dress sizes when she went raw. And now she is trying to defend this sickening starvation.
@mandicaura this could also just be genetics... but people's preference of appearance is definitely affected but the cultural preference i note. Who looks healthier is very subjective. I think they both look young and it's because of eating whole foods and avoiding chemicals. One must note that Brigitte is also wearing makeup which makes a difference with that light, she's younger but not by much.
It's too easy to defend raw food. Mars is on point. Arguing against Weed is like a high school student arguing against a mentally disabled 7 year old...it's really not even fair.
ya its kinda set up to make cooked food look like its for retards eh? they pick a radical to defend cooked food. mars is trying to brainwash you. eat cooked food.
No. No brainwashing. That's not what I meant. It's too easy to defend raw food BECAUSE it's so good for you. Cooked food never cured any disease that raw food didn't cure. But raw food cures many more diseases that cooked food causes.
Mrs. Weed is not just a radical. It' s ok to be a radical. She is a very uninformed, and dare I say, DUMB person.
Mars is not propagandizing anyone. Name me one species in the history of earth that ate cooked food. Sorry. Only us. And we are the sickest of em all
we are actually the most succesful species in the history of the planet. according to results. which we can look out our window and see. don't deny yourself. either way. i couldnt care less if ya'll malnurished yourselves until the cows came home. i just like how this 'debate' was set up to radicalize cooked food, by raw foodists. it clearly was. and if you dont see it, i dont have time to reply to your comment
So let me get this straight, lol...I either have the choice of "seeing it your way" and then we can be friends...OR...I can choose to NOT see it (even though, in your mind, I am clearly blind) but either way, if I choose to NOT see it this way, then you will not respond.
SOUNDS LIKE OPEN MINDED DIALOG! DING DING DING!!
Alright! Most successful species on the planet and can't even engage in debate unless the other side concedes arbitrarily! Nice!
Cooking food was to make it safe in times of scarcity which increased massively at the end of the last European ice age. But it's not the best thing for us. I believe the enzymes which allow us to consume cooked food were a get-out clause when we didn't have much. Raw is optimal. Peace.
Well yes but I have eaten 100% raw for periods and felt much much better on it. But I don't try and prosletyze as people get very emotional about food. It's like a religion to people and people are conditioned from birth about it. But for me I feel I've at least given all the camps a fair hearing. I've eaten from SAD to RAW. Raw is MUCH better. Peace.
To hertblue - I agree. I purchased a DVD "Raw for Life" and on it the several advocates of the all-raw lifestyle all (by their personal comments) seemed to be treating it with a kind of 'religious' conviction, such as New Age, or as GreenPeace environmental extremists. In other words, they all were motivated in their beliefs by 'fringe' things or agendas, and not solely the science of good nutrition. These peripheral agendas turn me off.
My daughter, who is 4 now, survived and thrived for 2 years on 95% breast milk and adamantly resisted any type of cooked food introduced, spat it out threw it on the floor. Whenever I would give her breast milk, she would be content and not cry, when she got formula, she would be really cranky and miserable. She is a natural vegetarian and honestly I am a meat eater but she doesn't eat meat. I have not seen another get who is more energetic, thoughtful and a sharp as she is.
Indeed, the government benefits so much from the local sales of fresh fruits and vegetables... Far more than it could possibly benefit from the sales of processed dead crap food. And our fine health and long life spans must also please them... overpopulation notwithstanding.
Use that magnificent enlarged cranium Susan Weed spoke about... do some god damned research.
Why don't all the losers just admit that they're addicted to their MSG laden crap-food. Then we can all get along.
@almayim :) Late to the party eh? I have to admit, looking at my post now, I was kind of an ass hole. Ah well, just started raw food back then, only a month into it. Rather ashamed in fact for writing some of these posts, I sound like a jerk. Formal apology to any who read them. However, the point I poorly tried to make is still viable. The level of nutrition found in the diet of the average american is sadly lacking. While no one may have advocated consuming MSG, it is subtly placed
@Waylend can't help it if i didn't have a computer when this video was posted. Just looking into videos from Susun Weed and found this interesting. You may not know much about her perspective in general but MSG is not something she advocates or even implies. Cooked food does not mean chemicals and processing, that is the so-called 'SAD' diet. She (like Brigitte) advocates traditional, simple, organic foods and definitely not chemical additives. We are all in agreement about that i am sure.
@almayim Oh of course that posted... (ran out of room because of all the apologies...) in things, ranging the gamut from generic processed foods to mixed spices you may add to the healthy food you cook yourself, using pseudonyms. Truth in labeling, google it - Just because you don't know you are consuming MSG, doesn't mean you aren't. Losers is an inappropriate word, perhaps simply ignorant or ill informed.
@Waylend How can i be consuming MSG if i eat nothing processed? I never bought such a thing as mixed spices, but i don't refuse to eat with friends because something isn't perfect enough for me so of course i've had it. I eat vegetables & meat from my own garden and nearby farms, or hunted. Dairy from a friend (currently, a compromise) I harvest herbs, or get them from locals and a respected local supplier. As for oils, salt & grains, i have researched the hell out of my sources. Mostly local.
@Waylend I said i have had MSG, not that i eat it (as if it is a habit), not the same. Surely you have had MSG, but you say now that you don't eat it. See the difference? When i lived in the city i was around a lot of people with different diets. If someone is nice enough to make a meal to share i don't want to go read all the labels in their kitchen to determine if i can eat with them, MSG won't kill me if i had it a few times, humans are very adaptable.
@almayim I do not consume MSG, nor have I once since I began RAW. I appreciate peoples good intentions, but I educate them as well. Once they understand the effects of MSG, if they still offer food containing it, it can no longer be considered innocent and ignorant, thus they remember that and provide simpler, less expensive, local fruits and vegetables. A little sewage in drinking water won't kill you either.
@almayim absolutely, but since I was only interested in discussing the effects of RAW pure food, I don't believe that has any pertinence on the situation. Bleh, never again for me. :P
We must get used to the fact that we cannot avoid ALL toxins, it is impossible, they are in the air and water. If we keep ourselves healthy we can deal with it.
@Waylend While speaking of jumping, you may tell someone to research truth in labeling if you KNOW they are not aware of misleading advertising but do not assume someone is unaware just because you disagree with their idea of health. I am a 3rd generation advocate and practitioner of ecological agriculture and real unpolluted food, we have a lot of history in this. I was educated as a child on the subject and continue to learn, there's always more to learn and we have to keep up with new scams.
@almayim You speak of continuing to learn, but you're so mired in the tradition that's been established in your environment that you call something that is fundamentally similar to your own practices, a scam. I can say for a fact that you have not eaten RAW for any real length of time. If you tried it, and worked through the detoxes, you wouldn't be so stolid in your own beliefs. I have had multiple doctors monitoring my health through the last six months, and have documented changes.
@Waylend I have done many detoxes, have definitely experienced brief detox periods, not very major as i don't have a whole lot to detox (lived in the city for 3 years, that was why i was cleansing) have certainly experimented with raw out of curiosity, if i only got worse (after detoxing, gradual decline of mental function and skin health, and so on) i can only conclude that it is not good for me to eat nothing but raw. My eyes certainly didn't turn blue, but that's ok, i like my brown eyes
@almayim There are many different views as to what is considered RAW. In several of these, room remains for deficiencies of various vitamins and minerals due to exclusion of a diverse range of available fruits and vegetables. If you truly want to feel the full effects of RAW, you have to make sure that you leave no nutrition out. Daily my wife and I consume large quantities of maca, goji berries, acai berries, spirulina, mangosteen, flax, chai seeds, various other seaweeds, and recently
@Waylend Really none of this is new to me. But case in point, just being raw is not going to make everyone healthy, you need diversity too. I cannot eat flax, very bad for my body. I ate hemp.
@almayim !!Flax bothered my wife and I so much for the first five months, only in the last month have we been able to consume it in large quantities!! I found through research that it had to do with enzyme availability within our bodies, and that the stores of the necessary enzyme were exhausted and had not been replenished for years. Hemp is fantastic as well, we intend to start that soon. :)
@Waylend some people actually have a sensitivity to flax. It is not deadly, just not good. I don't like the taste anyway so it is not crushing. Old herb books don't even consider it fit for human consumption due to some toxic elements, i do not have the book i am thinking of on hand or i would look it up for you. I find it useful externally and love the fiber. Basically my ancestors did not eat much of it, same reason i don't eat quinoa. They ate fish, and probably hemp not so long ago.
@almayim The research I have done into human biology and physiology leads me to conclude that it isn't necessarily the flax that causes the problem. There are trace amounts of toxins in most foods, even in their purest states, the problem is more likely to be, as you seem to agree, because of a lack of exposure. If our sensitivity could be reversed, anyones could with enough time, trust me, it was unpleasant. Acai, chai, or hemp would serve in place of flax quite well though.
@Waylend furthermore very few of these are going to be local wherever you live, they come from all over. Flax and chia are easy to grow, one could grow goji berries in many places. Maca turnip seeds are becoming available... but if you are eating the powder likely a lot of nutrients have been lost (degraded by oxygen). How many people do this? Not everyone can afford these superfoods, there are plenty of local ones for me. Raw wildflower honey, rosehips, nettles, and for me seaweed is local.
@almayim we have found these to be quite affordable and tested the effects of the maca we purchased against adaptogenic herbs which had proven themselves quite effective for my wifes thyroid and cortisol. It took 3x the standard amount to duplicate the effect of the adaptogenics. We purchased a small $10 pill maker and veggie capsules, and make our own supplements of ingredients we can't stand the taste of. :) We've been foraging in our yard recently... amazing the nutrition right here...
@Waylend well that's nice for you but i can't afford them, but i can afford the aforementioned local herbs, which i prefer anyway. I may grow maca next year. Maybe not all the nutrients are gone but they are certainly diminished by the drying and grinding process. I accept there will be nutrient loss when i dry herbs, but try to keep fresh ones around as much as possible. People have used dried herbs for medicine for a long time. As long as it works.
@almayim I would be cautious about growing maca, not that there would be any danger in it, simply because the environment it grows natively in is very unique. I am curious as to the effects of the soil and local atmosphere of your environment on the nutritional level of the maca. Just to put a number on it, so it's not a mysterious term, "affordable" means less than $100 per month per person. I prefer to think of it as a food/medical budget. :)
@Waylend As i have no 'medical budget' worked into my costs normally i have no need to replace drug costs with suppliments, i have always used herbs, and buying them is fairly new for me. My super foods are already in my diet and i don't have to buy all of them. $100 a month is a LOT for me to spend on herbs, there is no room in my budget for that great of a cost for an imported herb when i am perfectly happy with what grows here, and there is plenty of evidence to support their value.
@almayim *sigh, I had no pharmaceutical costs prior to my new expenditures. I call it a food/medical budget because I consider these imported herbs, which are proven to contain far more nutrition than the vast majority of what is in my area, nothing more than food. And because with them, I have no fear of even a common cold or flu virus, much less cancer or any other serious illness. If I had no access to them, I would happily consume only what was near. I was only defining "affordable".
@Waylend Maca is probably day length sensitive as many Andean crops are, but not expecting too much. It's not the most important food for me, but if i have the time i may try an experimental patch.
@almayim pau de arco. No matter what your preferred diet, all of those are excellent sources of a variety of nutrients. Also, I don't know how much you have studied in iridology, but I think you might find it interesting if you have not. Generally, when a person begins eating large quantities of RAW food consistently, excluding all processed or home prepared cooked food, it will take 3-5 months to get through most of the detoxes. Once that happens though, the results will be astounding.
@Waylend I cannot possibly study everything, i didn't say i studied iridology but since you mention it i have friend who have, quite a lot. No one thinks i need to detox. If you are referring to the idea that when you eat a pure diet your eyes will turn blue, no thank you! Yes,GENERALLY when someone has a lot of toxins in their body from eating 'SAD' (as surely most people who were studied have) of course it will take a while! There are serious chemicals in modern food.
@almayim My wife and I have both studied iridology and monitored changes in our eyes, and those of some of our friends more advanced in age. One friend was told she would be dead in two months by her doctor because of her health, her husband had nearly lost the ability to walk because of his back, my father-in-law has degenerative disk syndrome, and one of my wifes elderly friends has a brain tumor, while another had a breast tumor. All of them in the last three months, have astounded their
@almayim doctors by tumors going into remission, or disappearing entirely, degenerative disk syndrome reversing, not only being alive after two months, but happy, out of bed, and busily working and taking care of her three kids and husband who is now walking. But I do concede, his back still gives out occasionally. All these changes are documented and were visible within their eyes. Also... ;) Their eyes are beginning to lighten, even the darkest of brown is becoming gold. You'd like gold.
@Waylend Actually my eyes have turned gold before but not in connection with raw foods, i was in the desert, getting a lot of light. Not being an expert that is my only hypothesis, but i wasn't experimenting with raw then.
@almayim According to iridology, which I ascribe to as I have witnessed it to be true, the central ring around your pupil reflexes your intestines and colon. The toxicity of your body is readily apparent by the darkness that radiates out from it due to an obstruction in the minute electrical current that flows through your body. That electricity is enough to cause the ... arg, we have to go to town and shop for school supplies. Endpoint, light = no, desert cleanse = possible.
@Waylend that may be but i was not eating all raw, and what of ethnicities who have dark eyes by genetics? I think there are many approaches to iridology.
@almayim There are no "dark" eyes by genetics. There is blue, and controversially light brown/gold. There are not "many approaches to iridology." During the gestational months, a child is subject to whatever their mother takes in, which you are aware of. Thus, an entire culture can appear to have "dark" eyes, simply because they live in an environment that is, or consume foods that are, toxic enough to obstruct their electrical current.
@Waylend there are many takes on every philosophy, iridology is no exception.
While we are using other animals as an example of what humans should eat, have you ever had a good look at the eyes of a wild animal, eating all raw, only what is around it? They come in many colours, and it is genetic. And if the dark eyed ones are toxified then there is no way for anyone to avoid toxins.
Also, many people eating over processed and also cooked foods have blue eyes, are they automatically cleansing?
@Waylend Anyway, talking about raw and cooked foods is one thing but the conversation is wandering, i really just wanted to clarify that cooked foods doesn't have to mean MSG. I really disagree with the blue eyes= purity idea. Certainly the eye can show signs of illness, i just don't ascribe to the official iridology you speak of. I don't really think this is related so e-mail would be better than comments.
@almayim That's ok, my wife has dark brown eyes, and if they turn gold or blue, then I'll have ammo to prove it 100%, but for now, I can only try to understand why iridology holds so strongly to the idea that they will. It isn't mysterious, just as simple as a reflex to the rest of the body, but I personally would like to see it proven too. I agree about the wandering, if you want to put your e-mail in here, I'll send you a message, I'm hesitant to post mine in a forum like this...
@Waylend Basically, i believe it works for you, not trying to convince you of otherwise. I am not telling you to convert to our diet, just trying to get you to see that there is no one right way, there are many ways people can be healthy and it depends on the individual. It's just an example of how raw is not the solution for the whole world. Should indigenous people who are doing just fine without western interference eat raw vegan because it works for some people? I believe in ancestral diet.
@almayim I believe in maximum yield minimum effort. But I will force not a single person to my way. Persuasion, I may try, but I have found that now, I only speak out to defend, as you do. So I guess we both just wind up researching and following whatever we feel provides the most benefit. Now I really gotta go, if you want to discuss this another time, I would happily do so through e-mail, but this hunt the comment down YouTube thing is very time consuming...
@Waylend or as wild food harvesters say 'calories in, calories out', same here. If you just go to the video the most recent comments will show but yes this is very long conversation for tiny comment boxes and i have chores to be done. Glad we can accept eachother's differences and we are both doing the best for ourselves..
I think both are rights on some levels..personally i think a well balanced diet with both cooked and raw food..living in a nordic climate i think that having a raw diet in winter is not something that i would encourage for myself or my family..Personally i found it interesting reading the comments , to see how people take stands according to their personnal appearances .. They're both very pertinent..they're two different women and should not be judge upon their looks but upon their knowledge!
shibori8 1 month ago
and also i wouldnt call mcdonalds, and other fast food and other not healthy food (twinkies, process), food.
saberur66 2 months ago
i went on a raw food diet for a week. i spent more time making the food than i would on a cooked food diet, and im sorry but it tastes gross. cooked food tastes good, is fast and easier digestable. however i do enjoy raw foods everyday, raw smoothies and juices, salads ect. the fact of the matter is that most "cook" diet includes raw foods, and is not fully cooked. i enjoy about a 50-50 at most raw food, cooked food.
saberur66 2 months ago
Also, my digestion was HORRID on raw food, and is happy and comfortable on meat and fats.
lilithe69 4 months ago
I said this on the last video - I spent FAR more time as a raw fooder preparing food as I do now as a cooked food, and meat and saturated fat.
lilithe69 4 months ago
I find raw food interesting. I however believe it is cooked to some degree. You're still heating somethings in raw food diets to atleast close to 100 degrees. I think perhaps what is interesting is, that you are not OVERCOOKING and therefore killing the goods in your food. I think that is the difference between "raw" food and cooked. I think "raw" food is a bad term for this way of eating. Perhaps something like Perfectly Cooked eating, or NOT OVERCOOKED food? lol i dunno. But I see both sides.
MyMentalistmind 6 months ago
Brigitte understands something that Weed (& those of her ilk) will never undersand. Weed believes that life is a composition of molecules & chemical reactions. Brigitte's camp understand that there is a life force in the universe. An atom is more than 99% empty space, nothingness, yet in the inanimate molecular form compose vitamins, earth minerals, cells, etc. which act bring forth, nourish, & guide life! It's not about whether there's more a particular vitamin if you cook the food.
mrtruthforever 7 months ago
the fact is we need both! we need the chlorophyll and fiber of raw foods, and the flavor and easy assimilation of cooked foods...why one or the other?
aehuddle 7 months ago
Brigitte is much much smarder...
NuclearNympho 7 months ago
How blind Susun is..
omoshiroii 7 months ago
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most vegans thats were once cooked vegans testify that they feel younger and healthier, more mental clarity on a raw food diet than cooked vegan, this is a fact, THIS IS ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW, CASED CLOSED LOL!!
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Not only are we not cats, we're a horrible comparison to them dietarily. Cats have an *extremely* restrictive diet. They are true carnivores - a rarity among mammals. Humans, on the other hand, have a digestive system (arguably our entire being) which is remarkably adaptable - we're like pigs - we can survive & thrive by om-nom-noming anything and everything that gets too close to our snouts.
StevenBee2 10 months ago
Briggitte: "You can make all the same delicious dishes using raw food" - I can't say I agree with that... have you had steamed broccoli? It's one of the most wonderful substances on Earth!
StevenBee2 10 months ago
Any vegetarian woman I know who's been tested (4; 3 who are over 50) has excellent bone density. From my understanding, and speaking with a couple of doctors on the subject, the primary cause for bone density loss (which is in essense, a function of age and sex (it happens faster in women)) in our culture is an over-abundance of protein. Excess protein strips calcium from our bones on its way out of our systems.
StevenBee2 10 months ago
looks to me that Susan is out matched
willdoseago 11 months ago
I like a lot of what BOTH of them are saying (and personally believe there's a balance to be found), but did anyone notice how Brigitte started every rebuttal by saying the exact same thing? oO
runicakira 1 year ago
Also:
"Plant enzymes are much more stable over a wider pH and temperature range. The stomach is very acidic whereas the small intestine is more alkaline. This is why plant enzymes can work effectively in the stomach, whereas animal-derived or pancreatic enzymes cannot. Most pancreatic enzymes need to be enterically coated to survive the stomach environment."
I don't support any side, I just see the good and bad in both.
TheLoserKingdom 1 year ago
Do Enzymes survive in the stomach?
"The belief that stomach pH eliminates the benefits of supplemental enzymes is false. Research indicates that even though the pH of digestive secretions is quite low (pH 1.0 – 1.5), that once mixed with the food, the environmental pH ranges from 2.5 to 5.0 dependent upon the foods consumed. With this food buffering system, the environment does not harm the supplemental enzymes. In fact, many enzymes function best under these conditions."
TheLoserKingdom 1 year ago
the raw foodist is hoter
bleedingbacteria772 1 year ago
Susan Weed is arguing using evidences, facts, history, and, well, science.
Brigitte Mars is arguing using only anecdotal evidence and emotion.
Susan Weed is, of course, utterly correct and full of facts. Brigitte Mars is full of misinformation, however, she comes off a bit emotional. Some people are swayed more by emotion than rationality though, so there's always that.
dadoody 1 year ago 2
@dadoody I agree, but if we will be living on raw food so many years, there will be more research and facts,
missrawflower 4 months ago
@missrawflower - The facts already exist. Eating raw food has been done for centuries during times of desperation. There's a reason food is cook, it makes it easier to digest and you get more nutrition. If our energies were always directed towards raw food metabolism, our guts would be twice as large and our brains much smaller. Cooked food is the reason we had the energy to evolve a bigger brain.
If you want to eat raw almonds and meats though, knock urself out. Emotion over facts.
dadoody 4 months ago
balance cooked and raw the best of both worlds . the sun and moon //
leap100 1 year ago 4
its obvious that Susan weed knows what she's talking about...
nyabingi006 1 year ago
Sorry but susun weed looks way cooler, happier, and more confident.
xsliceofheavenx 1 year ago
Come onnnnn, you wont end up in the hospital for eating plain cooked spinach or plain cooked rice, gees that women talking about hospitals...
xsliceofheavenx 1 year ago
So Its still bad eating cooked tomatoe plain with no oil, still unhealthy? WOw
cooking broccoli, will break it down and make it more digestible.
xsliceofheavenx 1 year ago
Omg both is good for you in some ways more than others.... HOWEVER IF THE VITAMINS ENZYMES AND MINERALS ARE NOT THERE TO BEGIN WITH THEN THAT IS WHY WE ARE SUFFERING FROM DEFICANCYS AND HEALTH. ORGANIC VEGITABLES HAVE 15% MORE VITAMINS AND MINERALS THAN ALL THIS GMO FOODS OR PESTICIDES..... DUHHHHHHHHH ITS ALLL ABOUT BALENCE PEOPLE ......WHATS funny to me is Susan looks more unhealthy than Brigitt.......
draqmoon86 1 year ago
Omg both is good for you in some ways more than others.... HOWEVER IF THE VITAMINS ENZYMES AND MINERALS ARE NOT THERE TO BEGIN WITH THEN THAT IS WHY WE ARE SUFFERING FROM DEFICANCYS AND HEALTH. ORGANIC VEGITABLES HAVE 15% MORE VITAMINS AND MINERALS THAN ALL THIS GMO FOODS OR PESTICIDES..... DUHHHHHHHHH ITS ALLL ABOUT BALENCE PEOPLE ......
draqmoon86 1 year ago
Susun has many flaws in her arguments. She is claiming they are not really raw. Sprouting is cooking? How does she figure that?
777TylerJB 1 year ago
Briggitte Mars is dumb.
BlixEternal 1 year ago 4
@BlixEternal Yeah, she seems over matched.
jimmutennodesu 1 year ago
You don't have to "cook" on a raw food diet. Look after the 80/10/10 diet, raw fruits and greens are the way :P
ChaserHUN 1 year ago
who the hell wants to eat the same crap for 10 days lol.. and for the record there is no proof that eating cooked food made our "brains" bigger .. there are loads of animals that currently eat cooked food because of humans... i dont see anything going on with thier brains but do see a ton of illness.... ill just end it there ... its clear who is at the lead on this debate.. Raw foodies dont have the magic answer but they are certainly futher along in their results.
realityvsmyth 1 year ago
HAHA, Susun is awesome! I think there can be a balance in all of this. raw and cooked as long as it's natural and not processed with crap.
ThePeacefulpath 1 year ago
Gorillas don't write poetry? :-p
I agree with other posters, Brigitte is a much better picture of health. She may be a bit younger, but she seems to have aged gracefully
Sprouting cooks food...?
Susun is very aggressive, whereas Brigitte is more open & positive. She seems to believe it in a sort of "I believe it because I'm living it" Susun believes it because she read it in a book/scientific study. Those studies haven't cured our rising health crisis, but raw has cured cancer, diabetes, etc.
DimaRakesah 1 year ago
I think both of them have learnt from the other which is good.
22poopoo 2 years ago
According to a bbc documentary, cooking food made us human because it enabled more energy to go to the brain and less energy to go to the stomach.
22poopoo 2 years ago
Brigitte has nice hair
djtek184 2 years ago
susun weed is full of sense. i don't know where anybody's head's at calling her a bitch. you want the information or you don't. she makes the case very well.
alidonli 2 years ago 11
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susan weed doesn't sound very intelligent.
todayisthedaytolive 2 years ago
Ms Weed is very annoying.
anon72 2 years ago
Susun
just gonna quote fuckin science--
again,
lets talk results,
not science,,,
for some strange reason my HIV and life force was spiraling out of control when I listened to science--
now Im HIV NEGATIVE
on raw food principals...
science says HIV is incurable....
liverawkstar 2 years ago
have you had repeated tests? i dont wish to criticize...but this comment really made my eyebrows go up....!!
safehouse123 2 years ago 3
@safehouse123
yes
yes
and yes
you can follow my journey on my blogs,
just starting to re post today
liverawkstar 2 years ago
I am so over this debate. Let me debate this women she wont know what hit her. Raw food is the healthiest way to eat. I am 35 and look 23 that is not a accident I own much of my health to RAW food !
fastinggurl31 2 years ago
It is funny Brigitte says that although ppl may have healed from raw food they don't stay on the diet. Very true. Ppl didn't get overweight and sick because they make the best choices.
rawbarbie 2 years ago
funny debate :))) Brigitte is so pretty!
MissMatania 2 years ago
Susun Weed is kind of a bitch.
VeganJessica 2 years ago
I agree. I notice that more and more as I watch these videos.
xEndlessAutumnx 2 years ago
Why am I listening to this?
Why am I even writing this comment?
Must be tired.
Good night.
Luciek69 2 years ago
I think it is funny when people say "we have been eating meat for thousands of years , so it is healthy , or that we evolved to eat cooked foods . This shows a lack of understanding pf evolution , only changes in diet that would help or hinder reaching sexual maturity and passing on genetics does not affect natural selection as such . We also know that those cultures that live predominantly on meat have very short life spans . Doing something does not make it good or bad for you .
MindofaJedi 2 years ago
@MindofaJedi really, lets hear some examples then. And no one said you had to live predominantly on meat, only a few cultures are able to do this (and might i add they have no diabetes or heart problems until being introduced to 'western' diets)
almayim 1 year ago
@almayim Inuits and Eskimos have the shortest lifespans in the world and live on predominantly animal fat . The China Study clearly demonstrates the more plant based your diet is the longer you live . Gabriel Cousens has thousands of diabetes cures by putting his patients on HIGH CARB animal free diets . He is the foremost authority on diabetes in the world and a strong advocate for veganism as is William C. Roberts , possibly the most respected and published cardiologist in the world .
MindofaJedi 1 year ago
wow. i think the energy/appearance of both ladies speaks for their diet choices enough...words weren't even necessary.
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raezen 2 years ago
Brigitte is very positive and gentle.......i love her attitude
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susun is a monster! and speaking bullshit!!
TheRawbboy 2 years ago
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almayim 1 year ago
Susun is cracking me up with all her pointing and tense facial gestures... she's really quite pissed about this cooked vs. raw thing, isn't she? :D
I'd never heard of Brigitte before, but she's certainly gentler and easier to listen to than Susun Weed...
DauntlessDiva 2 years ago 3
susan weed needs to stop smoking weed, this woman is stupid/
alphamale300k 2 years ago
@alphamale300k 'Weed' applies to many plants, it is unfortunate that marijuana has overtaken the word in many people's minds. What do you think people are doing when they 'weed' their garden? (aside from throwing away useful nutrients, it has nothing to do with marijuana)
almayim 1 year ago
@alphamale300k actually Brigitte smokes, but i can't speak for Susan, just don't jump to conclusions.
almayim 1 year ago
@almayim And how did you come to that conclusion? On her website she openly speaks about the negative effects of smoking. I think I hear someone jumping...
Waylend 1 year ago
@Waylend She writes about vaporizing herself. I am well aware of the problems with smoking anything, but that's the individuals choice, i wasn't knocking her for it, just saying that she talks about it.
almayim 1 year ago
@almayim the terms smoking and vaporizing imply very different things. If you are ready to point that out about the term 'weed', be more specific in your own vocabulary.
Waylend 1 year ago
@Waylend whatever, the point is she still uses marijuana, which many people are trying to diss Susan for as if Brigitte is innocent. It is not my thing, i can't be an expert on the subject if i'm not interested.
almayim 1 year ago
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almayim 1 year ago
i don't believe our brains are any bigger since Adam and Eve 6000 years ago, I think in some ways we are getting more stupid, this Darwinism THEORY is proven wrong just by pure logic. the universe goes from order to disorder, not the other way around.
pfowler20 2 years ago
And what do you think ''Darwinism THEORY'' is?
152monkeybiker 2 years ago
let me guess, random selection over millions of years.
pfowler20 2 years ago
It's not random, animals which are better suited to there environment will have a better chance of surviving and producing offspring. Animals less suited to the environment have a better chance of dying young and not producing offspring.
152monkeybiker 2 years ago
ok, but how did all the different complex animals get here in the first place. is darwinism different than evolution. i am confused.
pfowler20 2 years ago
I don't like how Weed redefines the word cooking for her argument. Letting something sit in oil or dehydrating is not cooking.
As for Brigitte, I don't feel she made strong arguments and made too much appearl to personal experience.
lori598 2 years ago 2
Yeah, I'd have liked a bit more of the academic science brought to the table by the raw food camp. Although her point on lycopene was great.
Weed does not appear to display an image of health in herself, yet Brigitte does. However I don't know the difference between their ages.
Weed just used the same old cooked food propaganda that is only a small piece of the puzzle.
SecretsOfLongevity 2 years ago
Brigitte is in her 50's (late) and Susun is in her 60's.
Brigitte is the epitome of health and appears to have kicked aging in the ass.
Susun looks a bit wilted...
DauntlessDiva 2 years ago
Yep!
SecretsOfLongevity 2 years ago
Weed's attitude reeks.
Tamizationify 2 years ago 3
omg what a stupidity... how can cooking ADD something to food ?????????, this shows how much knowledge has miss WEED...bah
SoilWzelot 2 years ago 3
Based on attitude alone, I'd go raw and join the Brigitte camp!
utubed08 2 years ago 2
anyone who think Briggite looks healthy have a food disorder themselves
srhlvnv 2 years ago
Well, she looks healthier than Weed.
Tamizationify 2 years ago 3
@Tamizationify haha, nice point.
alphamale300k 2 years ago
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hopesolofan18 2 years ago
You're wrong on that, Brigitte. You say if you cook in a teflon pan that any bird in the room will just die. My close friend cooks in teflon several times per day. She has a cockatiel and she also has a miniature parrot in the room. I have been there with the birds many times while she cooked. The birds are alive and apparently well after years of this.
Mishumisu 2 years ago
Burning teflon kills birds.
crasster1 2 years ago 2
Burning it, but not cooking on it.
Mishumisu 2 years ago
@Mishumisu This is sort of true. There are many many chemicals in teflon which off gass at different temperatures, if you were to fry in teflon or preheat the pan (which would cause it to get very hot, above boiling) there could be enough chemical to kill a bird. As it is a gas it obviously depends on how ventilated your house is or how big it is. Birds have died but this does not mean they will always do so. It's still toxic, use clay, iron or stainless. I cook food, i don't touch teflon.
almayim 1 year ago
@almayim I don't even cook. I don't have teflon in my house, and rarely have birds. My friend's home is a trailer, and not very big. Maybe living in a trailer on a lake with lots of greenery and a big garden makes the air better. Doesn't matter anyway. Anything I would tell her for health, she'd ignore unless it's on FOX news. Just about everything she eats is deep fried at home too.
Mishumisu 1 year ago
@almayim I don't touch teflon either. My friend's kitchen and home are small and she keeps the windows and door closed. I don't doubt it's unhealthy for birds and all animals. Her birds always appear healthy though.
Mishumisu 1 year ago
Both of these women pay very particular attention to what goes in their mouths. They both want only whats best for their bodies. The big difference here is one choice keeps meat on your bones. Since when did appearance outweigh internal health and vivaciousness ... a bowl of cooked oats vs a raw green smoothie... hmm I wonder which will fill me best and sustain me throughout the day.... god forbid I have to chop wood or something.
mandicaura 2 years ago 3
With all the warped views about food, I can't tell what side you're on.
But since a cooked-fooder will see your post as pro-cooked:
!. The Olsen twins are cooked-fooders
2. cooked oatmeal, etc, leaves me hungry once it leaves the stomach.
3. people who drink smoothies say it sustains them for 6 hours (I don't drink them; I just eat the fruit.)
4. Many Raw-fooders gain muscle. They've proven this with tests.
5. the Max Plank institute showed that protein becomes half usable when cooked.
Gary1111001 2 years ago
i think it depends on the day's needs. surely seems to for me...
safehouse123 2 years ago
I think Briggite looks great and she is extremely healthy. We are use to looking at people that are consistently 15 to 30 lbs over weight. America is addicted to food and we will go to great lengths to defend our addictions. You are what you eat and I think you can see that from this video. Keep it raw.....I feel great and people I don't even know tell me how great I look. A good read is The Omnivore's Dilemma by: Michael Pollen and also check out David Wolfe. Peace.
TDJShields 3 years ago 2
THE BONE DENSITY OF A 12 YEAR OLD?!?!
Children's bones are rubbery. They are not 'dense'. PROPAGANDA
mandicaura 3 years ago 2
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slimmyd 2 years ago
@mandicaura i thought that sounded odd, children are not fully developed yes?
almayim 1 year ago
@mandicaura My bones were brittle at 12,I broke several easily.They're much denser & actually more youthful since I learned which foods are best for them & eat those.
Food is by far not the only thing to strengthen bones anyway.Proper hydration & good regular sleep rejuvenates bones like new again every day.Cooking your food isn't the only thing to give burn out,burning midnight oil also does. Sleep in a cool dark place. Yin & yang,balance in life,sun & nighttime, we're obsessed w/food & light.
Mishumisu 1 year ago
I have met Briggite in person. She is frail, sure she looks good - But her hair is also dyed, she's wearing makeup, and she probably went down a few dress sizes when she went raw. And now she is trying to defend this sickening starvation.
mandicaura 3 years ago 2
@mandicaura in a culture where frail looking skinny blonde women are the ideal, of course she looks great!
almayim 1 year ago
@mandicaura this could also just be genetics... but people's preference of appearance is definitely affected but the cultural preference i note. Who looks healthier is very subjective. I think they both look young and it's because of eating whole foods and avoiding chemicals. One must note that Brigitte is also wearing makeup which makes a difference with that light, she's younger but not by much.
almayim 1 year ago
It's too easy to defend raw food. Mars is on point. Arguing against Weed is like a high school student arguing against a mentally disabled 7 year old...it's really not even fair.
paradigm667 3 years ago
ya its kinda set up to make cooked food look like its for retards eh? they pick a radical to defend cooked food. mars is trying to brainwash you. eat cooked food.
sjfmeyers67 3 years ago 3
No. No brainwashing. That's not what I meant. It's too easy to defend raw food BECAUSE it's so good for you. Cooked food never cured any disease that raw food didn't cure. But raw food cures many more diseases that cooked food causes.
Mrs. Weed is not just a radical. It' s ok to be a radical. She is a very uninformed, and dare I say, DUMB person.
Mars is not propagandizing anyone. Name me one species in the history of earth that ate cooked food. Sorry. Only us. And we are the sickest of em all
paradigm667 3 years ago
we are actually the most succesful species in the history of the planet. according to results. which we can look out our window and see. don't deny yourself. either way. i couldnt care less if ya'll malnurished yourselves until the cows came home. i just like how this 'debate' was set up to radicalize cooked food, by raw foodists. it clearly was. and if you dont see it, i dont have time to reply to your comment
sjfmeyers67 3 years ago
So let me get this straight, lol...I either have the choice of "seeing it your way" and then we can be friends...OR...I can choose to NOT see it (even though, in your mind, I am clearly blind) but either way, if I choose to NOT see it this way, then you will not respond.
SOUNDS LIKE OPEN MINDED DIALOG! DING DING DING!!
Alright! Most successful species on the planet and can't even engage in debate unless the other side concedes arbitrarily! Nice!
Go blow a goat. As if your opinion matters lol!
paradigm667 3 years ago
I see it. Weed makes the cooked argument look crazy.....and it is.
Humans are successful because we have thumbs.
Gary1111001 2 years ago 4
Cooking food was to make it safe in times of scarcity which increased massively at the end of the last European ice age. But it's not the best thing for us. I believe the enzymes which allow us to consume cooked food were a get-out clause when we didn't have much. Raw is optimal. Peace.
hertblue 3 years ago
And you know this because? You read it in a book? Well done!
mandicaura 3 years ago
Well yes but I have eaten 100% raw for periods and felt much much better on it. But I don't try and prosletyze as people get very emotional about food. It's like a religion to people and people are conditioned from birth about it. But for me I feel I've at least given all the camps a fair hearing. I've eaten from SAD to RAW. Raw is MUCH better. Peace.
hertblue 3 years ago 2
I lived with raw foodists on their farm for 4 weeks. I was vegetarian for 3 years, vegan for 6 months.
Please, find the truth sooner than later.
mandicaura 3 years ago 3
I was 50% raw (and vegan) for 16 years.
I'm now 95% raw and vegan. I found it!
And all the BS in the world can't touch it.
Gary1111001 2 years ago 4
To hertblue - I agree. I purchased a DVD "Raw for Life" and on it the several advocates of the all-raw lifestyle all (by their personal comments) seemed to be treating it with a kind of 'religious' conviction, such as New Age, or as GreenPeace environmental extremists. In other words, they all were motivated in their beliefs by 'fringe' things or agendas, and not solely the science of good nutrition. These peripheral agendas turn me off.
strange3141 2 years ago
My daughter, who is 4 now, survived and thrived for 2 years on 95% breast milk and adamantly resisted any type of cooked food introduced, spat it out threw it on the floor. Whenever I would give her breast milk, she would be content and not cry, when she got formula, she would be really cranky and miserable. She is a natural vegetarian and honestly I am a meat eater but she doesn't eat meat. I have not seen another get who is more energetic, thoughtful and a sharp as she is.
joleokach 3 years ago
Susun Weed explains that there are only two things that should be eaten raw for optimal health - Milk and Meat!!
All cooking does is get started what your body is already about to do - and no enzymes are lost.
Your government wants you to be vegan/raw foodists so that you will be weak pushovers. WAKE UP
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slimmyd 2 years ago
really interesting observation.
never thought about it like that.
ieatsalad90 2 years ago
Indeed, the government benefits so much from the local sales of fresh fruits and vegetables... Far more than it could possibly benefit from the sales of processed dead crap food. And our fine health and long life spans must also please them... overpopulation notwithstanding.
Use that magnificent enlarged cranium Susan Weed spoke about... do some god damned research.
Why don't all the losers just admit that they're addicted to their MSG laden crap-food. Then we can all get along.
Waylend 2 years ago
@Waylend did Susun Weed or anyone else advocating healthy cooked food ever say we should eat MSG?
almayim 1 year ago
@almayim :) Late to the party eh? I have to admit, looking at my post now, I was kind of an ass hole. Ah well, just started raw food back then, only a month into it. Rather ashamed in fact for writing some of these posts, I sound like a jerk. Formal apology to any who read them. However, the point I poorly tried to make is still viable. The level of nutrition found in the diet of the average american is sadly lacking. While no one may have advocated consuming MSG, it is subtly placed
Waylend 1 year ago
@Waylend can't help it if i didn't have a computer when this video was posted. Just looking into videos from Susun Weed and found this interesting. You may not know much about her perspective in general but MSG is not something she advocates or even implies. Cooked food does not mean chemicals and processing, that is the so-called 'SAD' diet. She (like Brigitte) advocates traditional, simple, organic foods and definitely not chemical additives. We are all in agreement about that i am sure.
almayim 1 year ago
@almayim Does this post?
Waylend 1 year ago
@almayim Oh of course that posted... (ran out of room because of all the apologies...) in things, ranging the gamut from generic processed foods to mixed spices you may add to the healthy food you cook yourself, using pseudonyms. Truth in labeling, google it - Just because you don't know you are consuming MSG, doesn't mean you aren't. Losers is an inappropriate word, perhaps simply ignorant or ill informed.
Waylend 1 year ago
@Waylend How can i be consuming MSG if i eat nothing processed? I never bought such a thing as mixed spices, but i don't refuse to eat with friends because something isn't perfect enough for me so of course i've had it. I eat vegetables & meat from my own garden and nearby farms, or hunted. Dairy from a friend (currently, a compromise) I harvest herbs, or get them from locals and a respected local supplier. As for oils, salt & grains, i have researched the hell out of my sources. Mostly local.
almayim 1 year ago
@almayim you start by saying you don't eat MSG, then you say you do. Whatever choices are working for you, great, and local is fantastic.
Waylend 1 year ago
@Waylend I said i have had MSG, not that i eat it (as if it is a habit), not the same. Surely you have had MSG, but you say now that you don't eat it. See the difference? When i lived in the city i was around a lot of people with different diets. If someone is nice enough to make a meal to share i don't want to go read all the labels in their kitchen to determine if i can eat with them, MSG won't kill me if i had it a few times, humans are very adaptable.
almayim 1 year ago
@almayim I do not consume MSG, nor have I once since I began RAW. I appreciate peoples good intentions, but I educate them as well. Once they understand the effects of MSG, if they still offer food containing it, it can no longer be considered innocent and ignorant, thus they remember that and provide simpler, less expensive, local fruits and vegetables. A little sewage in drinking water won't kill you either.
Waylend 1 year ago
@Waylend but have you had it before you became raw?
almayim 1 year ago
@almayim absolutely, but since I was only interested in discussing the effects of RAW pure food, I don't believe that has any pertinence on the situation. Bleh, never again for me. :P
Waylend 1 year ago
We must get used to the fact that we cannot avoid ALL toxins, it is impossible, they are in the air and water. If we keep ourselves healthy we can deal with it.
almayim 1 year ago
@almayim I agree 100%
Waylend 1 year ago
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almayim 1 year ago
@Waylend While speaking of jumping, you may tell someone to research truth in labeling if you KNOW they are not aware of misleading advertising but do not assume someone is unaware just because you disagree with their idea of health. I am a 3rd generation advocate and practitioner of ecological agriculture and real unpolluted food, we have a lot of history in this. I was educated as a child on the subject and continue to learn, there's always more to learn and we have to keep up with new scams.
almayim 1 year ago
@almayim You speak of continuing to learn, but you're so mired in the tradition that's been established in your environment that you call something that is fundamentally similar to your own practices, a scam. I can say for a fact that you have not eaten RAW for any real length of time. If you tried it, and worked through the detoxes, you wouldn't be so stolid in your own beliefs. I have had multiple doctors monitoring my health through the last six months, and have documented changes.
Waylend 1 year ago
@Waylend I have done many detoxes, have definitely experienced brief detox periods, not very major as i don't have a whole lot to detox (lived in the city for 3 years, that was why i was cleansing) have certainly experimented with raw out of curiosity, if i only got worse (after detoxing, gradual decline of mental function and skin health, and so on) i can only conclude that it is not good for me to eat nothing but raw. My eyes certainly didn't turn blue, but that's ok, i like my brown eyes
almayim 1 year ago
@almayim There are many different views as to what is considered RAW. In several of these, room remains for deficiencies of various vitamins and minerals due to exclusion of a diverse range of available fruits and vegetables. If you truly want to feel the full effects of RAW, you have to make sure that you leave no nutrition out. Daily my wife and I consume large quantities of maca, goji berries, acai berries, spirulina, mangosteen, flax, chai seeds, various other seaweeds, and recently
Waylend 1 year ago
@Waylend Really none of this is new to me. But case in point, just being raw is not going to make everyone healthy, you need diversity too. I cannot eat flax, very bad for my body. I ate hemp.
almayim 1 year ago
@almayim !!Flax bothered my wife and I so much for the first five months, only in the last month have we been able to consume it in large quantities!! I found through research that it had to do with enzyme availability within our bodies, and that the stores of the necessary enzyme were exhausted and had not been replenished for years. Hemp is fantastic as well, we intend to start that soon. :)
Waylend 1 year ago
@Waylend some people actually have a sensitivity to flax. It is not deadly, just not good. I don't like the taste anyway so it is not crushing. Old herb books don't even consider it fit for human consumption due to some toxic elements, i do not have the book i am thinking of on hand or i would look it up for you. I find it useful externally and love the fiber. Basically my ancestors did not eat much of it, same reason i don't eat quinoa. They ate fish, and probably hemp not so long ago.
almayim 1 year ago
@almayim The research I have done into human biology and physiology leads me to conclude that it isn't necessarily the flax that causes the problem. There are trace amounts of toxins in most foods, even in their purest states, the problem is more likely to be, as you seem to agree, because of a lack of exposure. If our sensitivity could be reversed, anyones could with enough time, trust me, it was unpleasant. Acai, chai, or hemp would serve in place of flax quite well though.
Waylend 1 year ago
@Waylend furthermore very few of these are going to be local wherever you live, they come from all over. Flax and chia are easy to grow, one could grow goji berries in many places. Maca turnip seeds are becoming available... but if you are eating the powder likely a lot of nutrients have been lost (degraded by oxygen). How many people do this? Not everyone can afford these superfoods, there are plenty of local ones for me. Raw wildflower honey, rosehips, nettles, and for me seaweed is local.
almayim 1 year ago
@almayim we have found these to be quite affordable and tested the effects of the maca we purchased against adaptogenic herbs which had proven themselves quite effective for my wifes thyroid and cortisol. It took 3x the standard amount to duplicate the effect of the adaptogenics. We purchased a small $10 pill maker and veggie capsules, and make our own supplements of ingredients we can't stand the taste of. :) We've been foraging in our yard recently... amazing the nutrition right here...
Waylend 1 year ago
@Waylend well that's nice for you but i can't afford them, but i can afford the aforementioned local herbs, which i prefer anyway. I may grow maca next year. Maybe not all the nutrients are gone but they are certainly diminished by the drying and grinding process. I accept there will be nutrient loss when i dry herbs, but try to keep fresh ones around as much as possible. People have used dried herbs for medicine for a long time. As long as it works.
almayim 1 year ago
@almayim I would be cautious about growing maca, not that there would be any danger in it, simply because the environment it grows natively in is very unique. I am curious as to the effects of the soil and local atmosphere of your environment on the nutritional level of the maca. Just to put a number on it, so it's not a mysterious term, "affordable" means less than $100 per month per person. I prefer to think of it as a food/medical budget. :)
Waylend 1 year ago
@Waylend As i have no 'medical budget' worked into my costs normally i have no need to replace drug costs with suppliments, i have always used herbs, and buying them is fairly new for me. My super foods are already in my diet and i don't have to buy all of them. $100 a month is a LOT for me to spend on herbs, there is no room in my budget for that great of a cost for an imported herb when i am perfectly happy with what grows here, and there is plenty of evidence to support their value.
almayim 1 year ago
@almayim *sigh, I had no pharmaceutical costs prior to my new expenditures. I call it a food/medical budget because I consider these imported herbs, which are proven to contain far more nutrition than the vast majority of what is in my area, nothing more than food. And because with them, I have no fear of even a common cold or flu virus, much less cancer or any other serious illness. If I had no access to them, I would happily consume only what was near. I was only defining "affordable".
Waylend 1 year ago
@Waylend Maca is probably day length sensitive as many Andean crops are, but not expecting too much. It's not the most important food for me, but if i have the time i may try an experimental patch.
almayim 1 year ago
@almayim I would be very interested to hear what your results are.
Waylend 1 year ago
@almayim pau de arco. No matter what your preferred diet, all of those are excellent sources of a variety of nutrients. Also, I don't know how much you have studied in iridology, but I think you might find it interesting if you have not. Generally, when a person begins eating large quantities of RAW food consistently, excluding all processed or home prepared cooked food, it will take 3-5 months to get through most of the detoxes. Once that happens though, the results will be astounding.
Waylend 1 year ago
@Waylend I cannot possibly study everything, i didn't say i studied iridology but since you mention it i have friend who have, quite a lot. No one thinks i need to detox. If you are referring to the idea that when you eat a pure diet your eyes will turn blue, no thank you! Yes,GENERALLY when someone has a lot of toxins in their body from eating 'SAD' (as surely most people who were studied have) of course it will take a while! There are serious chemicals in modern food.
almayim 1 year ago
@almayim My wife and I have both studied iridology and monitored changes in our eyes, and those of some of our friends more advanced in age. One friend was told she would be dead in two months by her doctor because of her health, her husband had nearly lost the ability to walk because of his back, my father-in-law has degenerative disk syndrome, and one of my wifes elderly friends has a brain tumor, while another had a breast tumor. All of them in the last three months, have astounded their
Waylend 1 year ago
@almayim doctors by tumors going into remission, or disappearing entirely, degenerative disk syndrome reversing, not only being alive after two months, but happy, out of bed, and busily working and taking care of her three kids and husband who is now walking. But I do concede, his back still gives out occasionally. All these changes are documented and were visible within their eyes. Also... ;) Their eyes are beginning to lighten, even the darkest of brown is becoming gold. You'd like gold.
Waylend 1 year ago
@Waylend Actually my eyes have turned gold before but not in connection with raw foods, i was in the desert, getting a lot of light. Not being an expert that is my only hypothesis, but i wasn't experimenting with raw then.
almayim 1 year ago
@almayim According to iridology, which I ascribe to as I have witnessed it to be true, the central ring around your pupil reflexes your intestines and colon. The toxicity of your body is readily apparent by the darkness that radiates out from it due to an obstruction in the minute electrical current that flows through your body. That electricity is enough to cause the ... arg, we have to go to town and shop for school supplies. Endpoint, light = no, desert cleanse = possible.
Waylend 1 year ago
@Waylend that may be but i was not eating all raw, and what of ethnicities who have dark eyes by genetics? I think there are many approaches to iridology.
almayim 1 year ago
@almayim There are no "dark" eyes by genetics. There is blue, and controversially light brown/gold. There are not "many approaches to iridology." During the gestational months, a child is subject to whatever their mother takes in, which you are aware of. Thus, an entire culture can appear to have "dark" eyes, simply because they live in an environment that is, or consume foods that are, toxic enough to obstruct their electrical current.
Waylend 1 year ago
@Waylend there are many takes on every philosophy, iridology is no exception.
While we are using other animals as an example of what humans should eat, have you ever had a good look at the eyes of a wild animal, eating all raw, only what is around it? They come in many colours, and it is genetic. And if the dark eyed ones are toxified then there is no way for anyone to avoid toxins.
Also, many people eating over processed and also cooked foods have blue eyes, are they automatically cleansing?
almayim 1 year ago
@Waylend are you are raw vegan or raw paleo?
almayim 1 year ago
@almayim raw vegan
Waylend 1 year ago
@Waylend Anyway, talking about raw and cooked foods is one thing but the conversation is wandering, i really just wanted to clarify that cooked foods doesn't have to mean MSG. I really disagree with the blue eyes= purity idea. Certainly the eye can show signs of illness, i just don't ascribe to the official iridology you speak of. I don't really think this is related so e-mail would be better than comments.
almayim 1 year ago
@almayim That's ok, my wife has dark brown eyes, and if they turn gold or blue, then I'll have ammo to prove it 100%, but for now, I can only try to understand why iridology holds so strongly to the idea that they will. It isn't mysterious, just as simple as a reflex to the rest of the body, but I personally would like to see it proven too. I agree about the wandering, if you want to put your e-mail in here, I'll send you a message, I'm hesitant to post mine in a forum like this...
Waylend 1 year ago
@Waylend Basically, i believe it works for you, not trying to convince you of otherwise. I am not telling you to convert to our diet, just trying to get you to see that there is no one right way, there are many ways people can be healthy and it depends on the individual. It's just an example of how raw is not the solution for the whole world. Should indigenous people who are doing just fine without western interference eat raw vegan because it works for some people? I believe in ancestral diet.
almayim 1 year ago
@almayim I believe in maximum yield minimum effort. But I will force not a single person to my way. Persuasion, I may try, but I have found that now, I only speak out to defend, as you do. So I guess we both just wind up researching and following whatever we feel provides the most benefit. Now I really gotta go, if you want to discuss this another time, I would happily do so through e-mail, but this hunt the comment down YouTube thing is very time consuming...
Waylend 1 year ago
@Waylend or as wild food harvesters say 'calories in, calories out', same here. If you just go to the video the most recent comments will show but yes this is very long conversation for tiny comment boxes and i have chores to be done. Glad we can accept eachother's differences and we are both doing the best for ourselves..
almayim 1 year ago