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  • Man you are an IDIOT!!! If you do the research you would know not to mix wvo with wmo. You would probably put 2 stroke oil in your crank case too.

  • newer motor oil has detergents and things in it to keep it from burning while its lubricating in the bottom end. It has to be really hot to burn.

  • You needed to hest the fuel with an inline heater

  • Used motor oil has fine metal particals in it.problem may not have been so bad if you had used a magnetic filtering device after your usual filtering / processing,

  • lmao fucking idiot

  • Used engine oil should be fine as long as you filter all the shit out of it.

  • I have a 2.0 dti vauxhall Astra hatchback what can I use in it veg oil wise?

  • YOU FUCKING DIESEL LOVING BABY KILLER FUCK YOU DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE

  • My head almost exploded- "But its diesel- it should run on anything" It will run on just about anything- properly prepared. Pre-mix it genius- I have a 01 Ford 7.3 Powerstroke that I have run up to 75% used motor oil through- no problems- its actually helps keep the top end alive. After you premix it- FILTER it God only knows whats in your tank and passing through your pumps and injectors. These problems will pale in comp to a dirty fuel system. This experiment in common sense failed.

  • When I drove semi I used to bring in my used motor oil and transmission fluid and pour it into the fuel tank of my truck. 2 gal of motor oil mixed with 50+ gals of diesel hurts nothing. But trying to run it on pure motor oil, only if you are stuck in the middle of nowhere and have to walk otherwise.

  • next episode : running piss through my volvo

  • @lolperson4 hell you could run piss. just get an alcoholics piss ;)

  • last sequel ))

    so actually you can run engine on oil, but you need to keep this oil clean of everything that can't burn inside engine and store it's ability to lubricate fuel pump

    bio oils are used in some installations in diesel-adopted engines, but for common people there is no sense in such adaptation as such fuels are hard to get and they usually cost more than diesel

    ps sorry for my funny english, it's not my native language ))

  • and one sequel once more ))

    soot from oil, additives and soot from engine where this oil was used before, that lay on chamber's walls, valves and possibly camshafts, and are really hard to clean (remember - they don't burn while your engine's only way to clean itself is to burn rubbish)

    another problem is that diesel actually lubricates fuel pump, but instead of lubrication it got tons of soot and coal that made it's precise mechanic panic ))

    damn length limit, next message again ))

  • previous post's sequel due to comment's length limit )) :

    Now remember that goal of motor oil is only to lubricate mechanical friction surfaces, but also to remove soot left from fuel inside combustion chamber and metal shavings (nothing lasts forever, engines also ))) ) - that's why used oils are black and not light-yellow like fresh ones

    so you put triple (actually much more) amount of soot and coal inside your combustion chamber when you use used oil as fuel (next message)

  • Man, if diesel engine technically CAN run on almost everything that burns, it doesn't mean that it SHOULD do it - like "regular human can survive without food for 24 days" doesn't mean that it's a good practice

    I'll explain - put some fresh new motor oil in a tin and burn it (wait till it is completely burnt) and look what's left on tin's walls - a lot of soot and coal - these are synthetic additives to motor oil's basis that have hard-to-destroy chemical formula

    (length limit reached)

  • It more than likely isn't a result of a problem of used motor oil in the tank ... more like it needs a rebuild since it's got over 300,000 miles and poor compression.

  • Two stroke Oil, works tho... better for cold starts :)

  • I must also add that using Bio Diesel or Veg oil if your car can take it, is much better an idea compared to adding used engine oil. Why do I say that? well, long story.........................­...........

  • What this guy did wrong was add engine oil to Bio Diesel. You never ever do that, ever. Never mix engine oil with Bio Diesel or Veg oil. This mix will cause an emulsion. I have successfully used engine oil mixed with petro diesel in my renault scenic 1.9 DTI. I did that for about 5000 miles without a problem and later I started making Bio Diesel and now always use Bio Diesel in my car.

  • If you were to run it through 2 motorcraft oil filters you will have better results

  • you don't know what you are talking about man...

  • poor volvo motor :( why do these people run this fucking shit in this engines ill never know why

  • @aaronpourazar

    They like to save $4.50 on a gallon of regular diesel- so they use 1 gallon of used motor oil BUT 5mins later they stop at Starbucks and buy that junky fake coffee for 5 dollars. So? Don't mess with the Volvos Please

  • @rpl4pike i wasnt messing with volvos i love volvo diesel 240's but running them on diesel is the only way to make them go forever its just sad to change them.

  • CactusBob, have you considered a coolant heater? Google "Kat's 13080 850 Watt Aluminum Circulating Tank Heater", you can get them for $42 before shipping. They hook into the heater hoses, and they're thermostatically controlled.

    I want to start running waste ATF in my 02' Power Stroke, but I'm going to use a centrifuge to clean it before putting it in the tank.

  • i love runnin USED ATF in my 99 and 97 powerstroke!

  • I hope your work has nothing to do with nuclear physics or rocket science... Well, I also like to experiment, but not with a car what I need. I do experiments with "ready to blow up" old lawnmover motors and so on, got the point? Fourstroke gasoline engine by the way runs on mixture 50/50 gasoline/diesel, but creates hilarious white smokescreen. It runs, ok, but has to be started on gasoline only.

  • There is surely no coating on your cylinders.

    Your oil is to thick and there is no good mist when injected. that is the reason of the smoke.

    if it starts good after beeing warm, ur glow plugs are worn.

    use a tank of normal diesel with 10% e85.

    after completely using it your diesel should feel normal again

  • sounds more like your loosing compression. ive ran 50/50 diesel 15w40 rotella in the tank of my 6.9 diesel year round. when i change the fuel filter, i fill the filter with oil and it starts right up no problem.

    i would do a compression test, because most people have no problem running on WMO.

  • Of course it's going to smoke, you're burning oil, But i do find it impressive that it did actually start with oil

  • LOL.. yeah after all that of tryin to save a buck its gonna cost you a $200 dollar starter.. SMART!!!! fuckin retard!

  • MAD!!!used oil vegetal

  • you need to thin it with thinners/panel wipe ive run it before was fine on a old vw sdi engine

  • DUMB FUCK!!!!!

  • In my Land Rover Discovery 200 TDI I use old engine oil and pump diesel at 50/50 ratio and no problem with cold start even at 0 C.

  • Starting fluid+glow plugs= BOOOOMMMM!!!!! NEVER USE STARTING FLUID ON A DIESEL WITH GLOW PLUGS!!!!!!!

  • your problem was there is a significant incompatibility between WMO and WVO, which produces lacquer, which quickly cokes up the injectors and often glues the injector pump shut

  • Youtube user fubecabr used 15% petrol, 85% motor oil

  • hmmm my cummins runs motor oil very well

  • I did this on my 5.7 liter caddy. WORKS PERFECT!

  • excellent test and demo! some really interesting information.

    Here in the UK diesel is equivalent to $13 per gallon, it's very expensive but i run a 1600cc diesel turbo car for 50MPG in town.

  • That's a shame :/ interesting idea though I suppose, I think your idea about it forming a coating on the cylinder walls is a good one, but I think that it may have just clogged up / sooted up the injectors and ruined the spray pattern, which would make it really hard to start.....great video though :]

  • What I've learned with using "black diesel" it has to be warm and super clean using a magnet around the fuel filters. I used black diesel for a very short while in my Caddy when times were a bit tough for me to buy any fuel, so I mixed left over cotton seed oil from frying a turkey and any used veggie oil and about 3 quarts of black into it, and still ran fine but I had to hook up the block heater at 40F and less. but I got by as I needed.

  • diesel and motor oil dont mix! it ruins the lubicative properties of both!

  • used and new motor oil is too dense for using as fuel

  • my question is why the hell would you think its possible to put oil in a fuel tank? it is solely made to run diesel. oil is solely made to lubricate, reduce friction, and prevent oxygen and moisture from coming in contact with any internal engine component.

  • @pawnstar365 Because you can with most older diesels .the problem here was the motor oil was used at 100% and there was a problem with the lift pump inside the injection pump .... if you look at part 2 you will see all is well and now i run up to 50% used motor oil and pump diesel . another problem is when i ran 50%WVO and motor oil , cold starts are hard . a good combo is 50% used transmission fluid and 50% used motor oil , little to no smoke that way .just filter what ever you use

  • @CactusBobsPlace the reason why you had a problem starting it is because of the flashpoint temp in the cylinder since diesel fuel and other veggy oil has a lower flashpoint temp iem guessing it starts faster and easer then moter oil in diesals its all about flashpoint of fuel and cylinder temp so the issue is problem with cylinder temp or the thickness of the fuel not atomising

  • @pawnstar365 what are you onabout you talk shit they dont make cars to just run diesel, running engine oil is ok just need right mix with a solvent dont talk shit talking you havnt tried or know about,

    ps you can run heater plugs in 'metal' fuel tank connect to door switch on relay so when door open it gets it nice an hot before you turn key an run insulated lines too will thin down the oil before it hits the pump. can also start on diesel switch over to oil back to diesel with a simple pump

  • @lowdailys I have no idea what your going on about with the pumps and fuel tank connectors and whatnot. You might as well speak Chinese to me.

  • @pawnstar365

    Why the hell ar ppl so dumb.

    I ran my diesel for 8 years with vegetable oil and biodiesel.

    I also used some old engine oil (unused but 20 yrs old)

    _This whining fro ppl with absolutely NO technically background like. E10 wil kill your engine pisses me of.

    I also put ethanol in my diesel to thin the at low temperatures thick vegetable oil.

    mixed e85 with biodiesel and vegetable oil. just check my channel.

    It worked perfectly.

  • yes

  • @pawnstar365 dude. diesel IS oil. Diesel is almost the same thing as oil. Have you ever heard of a 2 stroke diesel? Those don't need oil because diesel lubricates.

    I will admit, the idea was a little silly, but not stupid.

  • @paradise7508 2 stroke diesels have motor oil in the crankcase.

  • @pawnstar365 If motor oil is hot enough it evaporates or thins and will atomize similar to diesel, but motor oil is full of plastics and additives, nasty shit. That is why 2 strokes smoke more when using motor oil vs. 2 cycle oil.

  • you add kerosine or heating oil to thin the kinematic viscosity kero is thinner than water and aids pumping issues. Bio diesel is slightly alkaline and acts as a injection cleaner. When putting cars for emission tests here if they are slightly smokey veg oil cleans out . A mix of 3 lts regular diesel 1lts SVO, 1 lts kero. 2 lts WMO . result = more power-cleaner-cheaper.

  • I wouldn't even use bio diesel - I screwed up the injector pump on a Ford transit with that crap.it cost me over £1,000 to get it right again - all for trying to be 'green' ! Screw 'green' !

  • Not sure went wrong, but, I've been running my Nissan van on used motor oil for ages with no problems starting, just a slight drop in power as with vegtable oil, I'm talking neat....! with a 50/50 mix ie, diesel/motor oil the van runs no differently.

  • Look into waste motor oil heaters and note the crap left after burning motor oil. Might give a little idea how it treats the engine lol.

  • Wow! Great video! Thanx for putting your sweet Volvo through this test! I never thought to do that but then again I haven't run WVO yet either but I will eventually. You don't have a preheat system for the WVO do you? You are going straight in the tank! I think if you heat the WMO to 160 F and filter to 1 micron w a centerfuge, it may be possible. That's what I want for my veg system anyway, it would be cool to be able to throw some cleaned WMO in too. Wonder if ATF will help? Cool vids!

  • Thanks for the video, I used to run an 91 Ford Escort 1.8 diesel, ran on veggie oil perfectly. After seeing this I'm glad I never tried to use the old motor oil as fuel.

  • Hey thanks for posting the video.. Glad I saw that. I'm not going to try that.

  • Do it if you have 2 tank system with glow plug prehaeater, heat exchanger

  • change fuel filter out,also a car that age would more than likely do with new glow plugs,also add some acitone around 100mls to a full tank of fue,this will help clear fuel system out of sludge and free up injectorsl,never ever use used motor oil as a fuel,it wil screw your pump over time and is very bad for pollition,and will smoke like crazy.

  • I did something very similar. I was running WVO with out any problems. I had some sesame oil that I didn't want to throw away so I added it to my tank. My truck would not start and caused me lots of money and it never did run right ever since.

  • Can you shoot it with ether like the big trucks or no?

  • @oevoz yes you can , but not a lot .if you overdo it the motor will lock . but this one and the VW diesels are well made and i never have see one damaged from it ......NEVER USE STARTING FLUID ON A GM OR FORD DIESEL ! just a little rant

  • @CactusBobsPlace

    Starting fluid can be used if the glow plugs are disabled.

  • @CactusBobsPlace. not to say your wrong but yes they will and no they wont.. you just have to get it started no matter what... you can use ether but it has to start or else it will lock up... iv never heard of it locking up just from using ether, but using it and not starting it has cause a few people i know alot of problems

  • @CactusBobsPlace don't use either on a diesel period, use wd-40.

  • she sounds like a diesel, looks like its running fine on the used motor oil, all you need is a secondary tank to start it up on diesel to get her warmed up.

    I was running used motor oil up here in canada when it was -30 - -40 you just need to filter the stuff out right

  • to burn regular oil you have first to get it up to a certain temprature.it's your fault

  • I hope you didn't mix WVO and WMO...probably where your problem started

  • how about if i use new 15/40 engine oil? i got a 25 litre drum of the stuff from a clear out of a garage

  • @Anglichanen should be no problem with an older diesel , i would start with 10% mix of oil to diesel because in your climate your nights are not all that warm and you might have a hard start with any more than a light mix ....but even with just the 10% that's a good savings ......if your car /truck has common rail injection think twice about using the motor oil , that system plugs up easy and it costly to repair .

  • @CactusBobsPlace

    You can run a 85% oil with 15% gas mix down to about zero degrees.

    Common rail is no problem as long as the oil is CLEANED by a filter or centrifuge.

  • Personally I have run used motor oil, I too live in Arizona. I have found out that when you want to use motor oil you need to go all the way down to a 1 micron filter. At that level the heavy metals will 98.9% removed. the problem with just using a diesel fuel filter is that it depends on the brand it will either be 10 or possibly 5 microns.

  • Good video though... Very informative... I love diesels... my buddy had a 65 Chevy C10...He engineered it and put a Detroit 6v53 school bus engine in it. Two stroke diesel... Pretty cool. I love what diesels will run...very economical engines...unfortunately I do not have any diesels but I want one..

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  • Really? Burning motor oil causes smoke? ;)

  • As a diesel mechanic, your problem is engine oil is less refined and heavier than fuel. Oil is harder to burn as it has a higher flash point. It will work fine if you cut it changing the viscosity closer to fuel. A great injection system & tank cleaner is automatic transmission fluid ! I used to add one bottle to every other tank of fuel I bought. ATF has loads of detergents etc. It will make some smoke @ first but cleans everything out as diesels burn it. See if this solves your problems

  • are you work for some petrol company,

    motor oil run with no problem on diesel engine!!!

  • i know it"s a pump problem in your case but to keep the foot on the throttle is useless on this diesel.

    the high idle is thermostatic controlled with the coolant.

    like you said it's a mechanical injection.

    with proper functionning glowplugs and relay this engine start very quick even on low temps.

    if not, it's a lack of compression ( piston rings on those big mileage engines)

    Interesting video

    thanks to show your volvo diesel

    i love them

  • i would like to know something about your pcv hose.

    is it a specific to your country or your state dust problem to reroute the hose to the air filter before the filter and not directly on the plastic elbow just before the intake manifold ?

    you do not observe oil on the air filter ?

  • In my old M35A2, you use a 50/50 petrol/motor oil mix... might be a thought?

  • Sounded rough on start-up :(

  • soo.... moral of the story was the fuel filter had seen better days and needed replacing?

    Hmm.... I actually have an IDENTICAL volvo.... same year, same engine,... however mine has a turbo from a 200hp generator. you should see it...

  • @hvguy no the filter was fine . the booster pump in the injection pump was bad . this car has no "fuel pump" like you would think of on any other car . inside the injection pump there's a fuel pump to pull fuel from the tank and through the filter.. then the other pump , the pressure pump takes over and feeds the injectors .....the little pump is easy to replace and cheep

  • Been running my old derv in the uk summer months on average of 50/50 clean diesel mixed with used engine oil. recently I've done 3 tanks on about a 25/75 mix and its only just starting to misfire again. Been doing this for about 3 years now, its has its problems but its dirt cheap to run :-)

  • did you try pushing the car down a hill.. engage clutch or drive system so the engine is turning, then turning the key?

  • @wank0r what would be the point of that, there is no problem with the starter or battery . this car would crank all day it just would not start because of a fuel problem ....if you look at part 2 you will see all is well . the problem was in the injection pump . the small rubber flap that acts as a lift pump was bad ...$6.00 and now it will run on anything

  • es de usted esta camioneta?

  • es de usted esta camioneta?

  • To what level was the WMO filtered? You cannot simply filter it like your WVO. Motor oil has particles of METAL, that need to be filtered down to atleast 1 micron, preferably with magnets on the filter to remove the fine metal dust. If you dont, it clogs your injectors, and puts unwanted shit into the combustion chamber.

  • marvel mystery oil that will clean and lube

  • I have 0,5 liter of 2-stroke oil to 15 liter of diesel in my fuel tank in the Volkswagen Golf ´83, smokie :) Though the engine seems to like it, not the most friendliest for the planet but after standing for 8 years and not even been started once, it seemed to need it... This new diesel fuel that is out in our pump stations is simply to dry for the old diesels, so I´ll keep adding 2-stroke oil to my fuel, but not more than it needs though.

    -Used motor oil, I will never try that, not once! :D

  • I will pay $100 a gallon for diesel before I'll EVER run WVO in my truck

    I've been running WMO for about 4000 miles, and have had zero issues.

    You just have to know what to operate in the system to make it work.

    I have 580 gallons of Used Motor oil in my garage, and it will all be used.

  • I've run 50/50 K1/Used oil in a old Perkins Ranger for the last year. Runs Great!! Starts every time even when its 10 below (Ether Injection Helps)

  • Hi, thanks for telling your story. I had a friend who tried running a berluet multicombustible truck with wmo. He got lots of smoke but it worked. Finally he was shortly in the need to change the injectors by new ones and stop with wmo, to recover good use of the truck. I tested his hold injectors, but they was working fine on the bench, looks strange...

  • thank you very much for the video

  • hi have you ever took a diesel injection pump apart.we run on waste oil 50 50 kero and have found a gauze filter at the rear of the injection pump in whats called the main pressure head here in uk,,,where the injector pipes come out we remove that gauze filter by taking the rear head of the injection pump off and run excellent but of coarse filtering 2 times in drums before use and with magnets on lines cheers

  • Once i get my hand on the right vehicle, I plan to try used motor oil. My plan is a second fuel tank for the used (filtered well of course) oil with a heater operating of hot coolant (i.e. heater core type setup inside the aux tank) Run on pump diesel until aux tank reaches temp, use switching valve to switch to used oil, and switch back to pump diesel for a min before shutting it down. I am curios as to whether or not using it in that manner may work. I may even dilute the aux tank w a small...

  • @Wildfowler85 ..amount of pump diesel to thin it out. Perhaps starting on pump diesel, running the used oil when hot, and running for a min or 2 on reg diesel before shutdown could make used oil more viable. If anyone has any insight into this please comment.

  • @Wildfowler85 I've been using veg oil in my jeep cherokee for years.It's harder to start but runs fine once warm.People do use the two fuel system tho.In this case I think the guy put to much motor oil in at once.Be better to put it in with reg diesel 10 - 1.I think he had the oil to thick to spray properly.

  • dude your not creating environmental problems at all. your recycling your used motor oil by turning it into fuel! apart from the oil being so that thick that the engine is hard too start, this was a very good idea. i wonder if you could dilute the oil with regular pump diesel and make it work then?

  • The only reason its hard to start is because engine oil has a higher flash point than diesel. I would suspect you also have a glow plug problems such as one or more plugs burnt out due to the hard start even in warm climate.

  • I have used old motor oil in diesel vehicles with good results BUT only mixing with pump diesel....actually it runs better than diesel alone. I would NEVER try and mix it with bio or vegi oil for the very reasons you point out.

  • @IraqVet14

    I must agree. The Veg Oil and Used Motor Oil would most likely seperate over night. I would strongly suggest mixing different fuels in a clear container and watching it for a few days before putting it in the tank. I had this problem with Alcohol and Klotz Racing Oil. The Alcohol barrel had leaked allowing water to contaminate it. The oil wouldn't mix!!! Klotz Oil saved me alot of head scratching!!! LOL

  • Engine oil is fine to run in a diesel but there are some precautions to take however.One: Don't ever mix engine oil with bioD or veggy oil.That combination congeals into a thick gel that is like 100X thicker than either substance alone.this can/will clog your fuel filters or just not flow enough through your lines to even get it started.

    Don't start your diesel on engine oil,The oil requires about 150*F more than diesel to autoignite.So it will start hard about 50*F or below.

  • @saab4life i have mixed biodiesel and motor oil and it didn't congeal. the biodiesel thinned it down and i was able to filter it to 25 micron. i mainly do biodiesel at the moment but i was just experimenting with motor oil. i just put 20 litres motor oil through my car and i didn't have any starting or filter cloging problems. the engine is running a bit rough tho, but i get this reguraly on biodiesel and 20miles on pump diesel is enough to clean it out.

  • Thanks for the video

  • Been running straight waste motor oil for thousands of miles that has been centrifuged and gets preheated before sent into the pump. No problems whatsoever.

  • maby problem is that your injectors are old and probably leaking,in that way used oil can not be sprayed properly(important for complete burning).You will need to preheat used car oil before starting to drive on it.

  • My guess is that your injectors are part clogged, and you're having trouble getting enough fuel in there.

    I'd suggest a double the recommended dose of injector cleaner and a long highway trip to clean it out, because that engine started and idled like a bag of spanners. Not even an old Perkins lump in a truck on a cold morning sounds that bad!

    Failing that you're going to need to pull the injectors and get them cleaned out

  • @luviskol Today the car is starting great , it was not the injectors but it was a fuel issue . i think the lift part of the pump may be getting weak . the fuel filter was a little plugged up , not real bad but a little . replaced it and cut open the old one , the oil stained it black . i replaced the filter on my bio pump ( i used it to filter the motor oil in the first place ) it was the same way , stained black .

  • @CactusBobsPlace

    The exact thing happened to me. I put 1 gallon of clean rear end lube in the fuel tank & the very next day until today (2 yrs. later) my truck will not start unless I plug the block heater in. I never had any problem with it starting before I did that.

    Just thought I'd let you know, you are not alone.

  • dont put 2 storke gas in a 4 storke eingne lawn mowr it stalled out

  • My guess is that the engine oil did "something" to your demisters or atomizer (don't know the english word for it).

    Maybe it is glogged up or otherwise contaminated, hence the smoke.

    I'm pretty sure engine oil and a diesel atomizer will not result in a efficient spray pattern.

    Motor oil should work, but you need to change the design of the atomizer.

    Makes sence?

    No expert, just thinking with you.

    Love your videos.

    Repelsteel

  • @repelstee1 Your on the right track , i pulled the first 2 injectors and tested them on my own "pop tester" and they looked good . so i got a sample out of the car to use in the tester from the pump return line . that's when i found nothing returning ! and led me to the fuel filter problem . my pump may be weak from all the thick WVO i use all the time . today its back on the WVO with no ill effects .. THANKS

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