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  • Vivint/APX is a scam... I use to work for them. Check out the testimonial I made about all the ways they screw over there customers. It isn't right... especially considering they are mostly a mormon company.

  • @traineater "especially considering they are mostly a mormon company." You are a retard. That sentence makes your argument non valid.

  • @richardmorrison78 Explain why my sentence make my argument non-valid. Otherwise I don't care about your opinion. Also, you shouldn't say someone is a retard if what you mean is I am stupid.

  • @jimzink you say this because of profanities you must be from provo. Prolly a Vivant manager or rep that goes to church Sunday's, scams mon-sat... Being a hypocrite... Whatev thats just u a Provo-all-star tool bag prolly 30 Yrs old... Anyways lady wasn't scammed this time

  • Buyers remorse, this lady talking to the news is a fuckass retard scunt bag, also the news team can suck it. Lol now I feel better, but there are better summer sales teams than Vivant...

  • @Bluesteezful By your comments all doubt of your intelligence went out the window. 

  • APX is now VIVINT and they still are lies to all !!

  • Props to the " unprofessional college student" that sold her rich smartass, she just had to say no and tell him to leave. I have NO sympathy for her.

  • People need to stop being morons is the only problem. If you don't want something don't buy it. It is that simple. Vivint (formerly APX alarm [Pronounced A.P.X] or Apex, depending on who you talk to]) is an amazing company and I will have their system in my home for the rest of my life.

  • I love how these local news yahoos act like they've broken another Watergate story.

    My family and I have been APX (now Vivint) customers since 2007. They're service and reliability have been excellent. We upgraded our panel and it's a lot more user-friendly than the old panels you see in most homes.

  • I wouldn't bash on other Alarm System companies, especially APX. They have many years in the alarm industry and I give them props for getting as big as they got.

    I work for Point Protects, a new but very well established alarm company here in Lehi, UT.

    For those seeking a better pay scale and a 80% up-front deal, send me an email. We pay more than Vivint (APX), Pinnacle, AMP and other alarm system companies.

    Experienced or not, shoot me an email. etimothybarba@ymail.com or pointprotects.co

  • besides, the odds of getting injured or killed in a fire are greater than that of burglary, that's why smoke alarms are required in all buildings, but burglary systems aren't.

  • i am not saying that you are spelling it wrong. I telling you to say it correctly!

  • hey moron it is too APX! it isnt Apex.

  • @beavlove your right. and wrong. haha. spelled apx but for slang people say apex.

  • hey moron its not "A" "P" "X". Its Apex 

  • @thespenceke11 Hey moron it is APX not Apex.

  • @VTBurtonrider22 They call it apex fucktard

  • @TGODparker I've worked here for 4 years. its APX. sure apex is a slang way to say it but all of the employees have been told to say APX.

  • @TGODparker actually they are vivint now. So terrible they had to change their name again.

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  • Security systems today are wireless and very easy to install. There are many companies online that sell affordable systems you can install yourself. There are monitoring companies such as AlarmRelay that offer monitoring for as low as $10/mo.

    There is no doubt everyone should have a security system but you don't have to pay high monthly fees.

  • Additionally, there is no scam involved. APX does have a superior product, and also is nationally accredited by JD Power and Associates. Sometimes, the sales people lie, which is the case with all companies. In fact, if lying salespeople is an indication of a scam, you better take your cell phone, your car and all other major appliances back and demand a refund. They will lie to make a sale. Just do your research.

  • @xxrushmorexx There is one thing quite different in the "lying game" senarios, however. APX saught ME out... I didn't go to them.

  • @xxrushmorexx I worked for APX for a long time in two departments. The JD and Power and Associates award is just for the quality of the call center. I worked in Data Entry and Scheduling departments. In Data Entry, SEVERAL sales reps mislead customers that I talked to. In scheduling we have to tell customers we'll get them the "SOONEST" possible appointment, when most of the time that appointment is anywhere from a week to a month out. So good luck trying to get a technician out there!

  • @3511ish Also, if you don't believe me. TRY IT LOL. Call the scheduling department and get a technician out there this week. By the way, having worked there, most states only have about 2-3 technicians except for more populated states.

  • @3511ish clearly you're an old employee from years ago.. 900 service vans that are full time.. 11 hr guarantee to service an issue. they will be 2nd largest security company in the U.S. in 6 months or so..

  • @3511ish not anymore. i've been working there for 3 years and although that may have been the case a while back there were 350 more techs employed in the last month. before that several hundred more.

  • I worked for APX Alarm two years ago as a sales rep. I completely agree that SOME of the reps are pushy, and high pressure. To say that they all are is what is known as a broad sweeping generalization (usually used in conjunction with racism, or other bigotry). Here is my suggestion: READ THE CONTRACT. On the contract that you sign, it goes over pricing for monthly monitoring. The free aspect is the system itself.  Brinks or ADT would never offer such a thing.

  • They're here in Calgary as well. Exactly the same operation.

  • I had one of APX's "frat-boy" team members come knocking on my door, the other day. Though I live in Iowa, his M/O was exactly the same as LovelySlice describes. I felt I was talking to a car salesman, rather than a home security rep. His high pressure now-or-never sales pitch left his, and his companies integrity subject to question. He lied to my neighbors, telling them that I had just purchased a system, and he told me like-wise, about them. His sheep principle failed, however. Poor M/O, APX

  • okay! This young just left my house trying to get me too try out apx and he said it was free! I called my husband and he told him to leave information, you think he did NO he didn't he said is is today only and he has to make to more stops! We have to get it today!! I was like this doesn't sound right at all! DO NOT TRUST IT!!! I didn't

  • I think people need to re-evaluate the definition of "scam," because it seems like they think it's a synonym for "bad deal." Similarly, the "injustice" this lady seems to be experiencing seems more like buyer's remorse.

  • The fact that apx alarm is the only security company with a JD power and associates award... Wait wait wait. They have it for the last two years running! Oh yeah, and their product that trumps all alarms out there ( apxalarm.com ) does that mean anything to you?

  • These folks came by my house today which is why I'm looking into these vids. I got a sales pitch which promised everything FREE. After many questions I was informed that there would be a $45 per month monitoring fee, that was supposed to be free, then later learned that I "might" be charged a contract cancelation fee. This is a rip off folks. Don't use APX!

  • @jimdog1964

    Nothing is for free!!!

  • @jimdog1964 I don't know if you know much about alarm contracts but that's how it is for nearly ALL alarm companies so do a little research. When you sign up for a new contract term the way to get equipment free is to sign up for a term agreement, Same thing goes with cell phones, come on you can be this clueless. To get a new phone free you just need to sign with the companies and say that you will remain with that companies for a certain amount of time. Most cell phone companies its 2 years.

  • APX fucking sucks !!!!

  • so whats the problem with apx? this video vilifies them as if they are bad... have you ever been pulled over with a expired registration? does that make you evil? ... i love my apx alarm and am glad i switched out my old unit. stop complaining about nothing

  • As a person who has been in 2 alarm contracts at once, I say buyer beware. No matter how tempting it may be, choose your alarm company without the help of door to door salesman. I wish I could have taped our 2nd salesman. He bragged about his faith (from Utah) and was very convincing when he said he could eliminate our 1st contract. SAI/Safe Security/APX/APEX/Castle Rock is all about one thing and that is the contract. I had a rep read me the contract 5 times when I called. Protect yoursel

  • I have just started working for APX and I can honestly say with an inside view that it is not a scam. Of course the sales reps use persuasive selling techniques....just like the people at best buy, future shop, the dealership, and hell anybody with a marketing degree. The company is very professinal about sending college students door to door and I personally went though probably 50 hours of training over the course of several months before I started working for them.

  • I used to sell alarms... Its totally a scam. We were trained to close the deal and our incentive was a fat pay check. I quit--couldn't lie anymore.

  • I have an APX system and have been very happy with them. We have had one break in and the alarm worked as advertised. I have found their customer service to be very strong.

    And to note I do not work for APX. I am simply a satisfied customer.

  • All door to door alarm salesmen are taking advantage of people by pushing them into a contract they dont need. I did sell for three years and had a good experience but fell that people get taken advantage of all over the US and it needs to stop!

  • One of these guys just came by like 15 minutes ago, and told us that all kinds of people were getting broken in to their house and how burglars were cutting phone lines to disable alarms, and that they had a new system that works through GSM towers or some crap, and that we would get it for free to test it out... He didn't really pressure us or anything, and he left after we told him all of us at the house were unemployed

  • As I mentioned above I like my system. When the tornado came through town in June of 2009 our phone service was out. We accidentally set off the alarm but the system still called out using its cellular service and they were able to contact me in about 2 minutes on my cell phone.

  • thats manipulative selling...shame on that rep. I sell alarms for a living and I do not use scare tactics like that unless there is a legit concern in that neighborhood, and even then I tell it delicately. Bad reps give us good ones a bad name....

  • your right on that remark!!!!

  • I'm back. :)

  • APX is a great company, they give college students and young people in general a great opportunity. Yea it is door to door, that is the best part, you can personally ask the rep questions and comments and they help you with anything you need. Of course there will be a few shady guys, but that is no reason to call it a scam. People (ie: this lady) need to learn how to say no if they do not want, or do not fully understand what is going on. She got sold, and now she regrets it. A sucker indeed.

  • Damn, You Yanks are truely getting screwed from all angles, If it's not Brinks it's APX, If it's not APX it's Platinum, I personally wouldn't stand for any of that, Personally I do ALL of My security work such as Alarm, Locks and Access Control, That way I don't get screwed from these Cowboys and I can sit back in the knowledge that I am the only one who truely knows My system, All area's are covered and I have ensured that My system has tamper circuits which seems to be an issue with ---->cont

  • Alarms from the states, Don't get me wrong, Access Control Systems from the states are the best in the world but the burglar alarms are fairly crap.

    It's Illegal in the EU to have an alarm System or alarm component without a tamper circuit ie:panel lid, Detector and siren.

    Looking at all of the video's on here, I could seriously make a killing from the states as My systems are seriously more secure than any alarm panel i've seen yet.

    My edge

    Sorry but Your security is in serious trouble.

  • Well not all in the US are like the ones here. We just don't really have laws enforcing proper installations. (shameful i know) There are UL certified installations that have tampers all over the system, as well as other redundancies. This is cheap crap, using people greed of a "free" alarm system. You know we Americans don't pay for anything up front these days. We have the good stuff, you just have to actually pay for it.

    Cheers

  • Thanks for your reply and another thanks for clarifying the status of many systems in the USA, I was seriously under the impression from what i've seen available that american systems were basically all alike and my judgement concluded that since most systems i researched on had no tamper circuits, worked on N.O rather than N.C and had no external sirens, so essentially I classed them as crap.

    Can You tell me if the majority of panels have N.C, Tampers and External Sirens.

    This i'd value.

  • That would depend on if you are asking about commercial applications or residential applications. The majority of commercial applications will be a N.C. circuit with a tamper circuit. Residential I have only seen a couple but they were done up right for specific purposes and applications usually private collections of one sort or another.

  • Yeah, just got a call from these people. they have been calling me for DAYS and they hang up when I answer. So I answered screaming. THEN they finally speak up, tell me they're from Apx and I hang up the phone. I am on the NDNCL, and if I get a call from them again, I'll call the police.

  • (knocking on doors by college kids unethical????) - wow Lady, this just proves you have buyers remorse. YOU feel bad YOU made a hasty decision. - easy solution, don't get suckered, sucker! APX's billboards are cheesy tho, however cheesily remembered.

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  • It truly is a scam. Recently, APX salespeople have been going door-to-door in my neighborhood. They use scare tactics to pressure people into purchasing the system. They insist that you get their product. After many times of saying that I did not want to purchase the system, they still kept pressuring me into buying it. I had to shut my door on them. A couple of my neighbors have purchased the system, though.

  • I have fixed many APX and Apex alarms and let's just say the quality of work is, at best, substandard. Not only are many of their salesman untrained and unethical, they're also seasonal (meaning barely experienced & not long for the alarm industry.) Your problems begin after they leave. They are from Utah, so if you live in Ohio and have a problem with APX contractually or with your system, it's harder to get recourse. Do yourself a favor if in the market for an alarm-buy local.

  • Are you crazy ? I mean, seriously ? Are you mentally ill people ? I said to this focker . I have no interest in talking to you , please leave . And he engaging me in off the wall conversation and demands explanation . Listen u retarded fucker I do not owe u an explanation .

  • I'm going to murder your salesman if he dos not leave when told to do so . I do not owe you an explanation . You are trespassing on my property you are evading my time my space . I had to tell one of these idiots : Please leave like 20 times .

    What is wrong with you ?

  • I dont sell for APX but why is this lady so concerned with canceling? She wanted the alarm enough to buy it so why does she want to cancel? Because the licence was 5 days outdated doesnt mean she isnt getting what she paid for. Also if college kids going door to to door is so unprofessional why did she buy something she wanted from them? Lame

  • She simply has buyers remorse, and fell in with the media who will spin anything they can to fill some news slots. What happened to people taking responsibility for their decisions? I would think it would be more embarrassing to blame it on "sales tactics" than to just say "I changed my mind". It's not like a home security system is a bad product to have.

  • the amount of negative articles on this company found on google is ENDLESS!

  • haha, I know this guy, I was in the memphis office this last summer.

  • Anywhere an APX system is installed there are APX technicians, who live in the very areas where our customers reside. If there is a problem with the system, APX is open 24 hours to address the problem and send a technician as soon as possible to fix the problem.

  • Where are these offices the techs work out of? Are they in apartments? I have never seen a marked APX service truck on the road. They are always seasonal guys brought in from out of state. Also the 24 hours to address the problem, Ok well how much would it cost for one of your techs to fix a system you set up with no line seizure at 2am. Oh wait you charge 150$ + emergency service, to fix something you guys messed up in the first place. and even though you guys were out till 2am installing it.

  • i think it's funny as hell you still going on about this shit... like really do you not have a life?

  • Well it is goddamn funny that you are still reading it. I don't have a life, and it's sad that you have even less of one that you have to keep reading my "shit". Oh and dicedrummer88 how's your dead mom doing? LOL Keep on keeping on, loser. :-x

  • no i was actually just passing by and saw that your still fighting the good fight, ha ha. and how's that going for you? obviously still losing b/c your still here. No i did get a chance to read all your posts, but i'm sure your as stupid as ever! well you know b/c she is dead she hasn't gone anywhere thanks for bringing it up! shows you still care... and that i left an impression upon you.. lol. but whatever you keep on having fun fighting the up hill battle

  • Hey Troy(NiRuHuan) answer this, when you have one of your Honeywell Lynx systems installed in a home with DSL can and you run your 4 conductor wire direct to the demac (solid or stranded?) and with the red on the Ring terminal and the green on the tip. With the brown return on R1 terminal & the grey return on the TI. Will it disrupt the DSL signal that is at >4khz. And if so is it then ok for your techs to the connect to the nearest phone jack in the kitchen, normally hitting a GFI 110 outlet?

  • That is a lie. There are no "APX technicians" living in areas where they sell alarms. They have subcontractors service their accounts who are paid by the job-and these subcontractors work usually for more than 1 alarm company. They are not "APX technicians".  Additionally, APX techs are in a bad position because many are untrained and poorly paid. APX called my tech to offer him $40 a job for installs. I pay him $150.00, which is the going rate for an installer with 30 YEARS experience.

  • Because its not an issue. Your a little obsessive reading considering the 5 comments you sent me and the ones you posted on my profile. Obviously based off the amount of you talking about being inside of me and other gay talk. Coupled with the cursing. Your a confused pissed off person. I feel bad for you.

  • Oh not a little obsessive, its major. You are a little project of mine now. I am not pissed off. This is bringing me so much joy. And the fact that you are reading everything I have to say give me strength and motivation to keep doing it. But a simple dismiss of "Because its not an issue." just goes to show it something you don't want to get into. These are big issues. Would it be fair to say "99.9%" of your offices will be in apartments this summer? Answer that my project. Love You!

  • Well you know as well as i do that is true. Why would i agruee a moot point, i leave that to ppl concerned with childish things. I dont live in Utah and im not LDS. Farthest thing from it. Either way Jack Inbar is the name of a coperate guy so its obvious your some one who half asses a summer and is looking for ppl to blame. Get a life, and go back to school and read some books cause your obviously a pissed off idiot.

  • You know what I love about your posts is how you always dodge the issues of summer alarm installers not having the capability to keep a real office anywhere but utah. Or the fact they cant monitor the systems they install themselves. You just made yourself my bitch and didn't even know it! LOL I love you, and can't wait to be inside you again my friend. If you are not a mormon then you are just their little paid pet, which is worse, you must have no self esteem. How do you live as douchebag?

  • adt, monotronics, protection one, all are the main ones and they are done centrally. 99% wasn't a fact, its was a generalization. And yea i did win an argument since you have to resort to name calling.

  • No saying "most of alarms go to a central monitoring station out of state."is a generalization. The 99% is you trying to sound like you know something and are not just pulling things out of your ass. (Besides your dad's dick for once.) But you didn't address the fact APX does not have real local offices year round. Or the fact they don't have their shit together to run their own monitoring facility. See called you names and won an argument, is time and space colliding in Utah now? LOL

  • yeah we shouldnt let college kids set up alarms systems, just be the future leaders of the United States.

  • Your right they shouldn't. The need to be our leaders and quit wasting time with Summer Sales. We need college kids to be our leaders. (except the mormon ones.) A mormon leading the country? Never happen.

    Rommney 2012! LOL

  • So does this company worth the money i going to spend on them?I was talking to one of the rep and he made it sound like they know what they're doing...hopefuly.

  • If you have not signed up yet, then ask to visit thier local office. Unless you live in Utah you will find it an apartment complex. APX is part of summer sales, where they send out crews from out of state for the summer only. So if you have any issues after they leave, its anyones guess on how they will take care of you. Remeber this is a security company and it should be local and stable.

  • First of all Jack, obviously your an x disgruntled employee. And 99% of alarms go to a central monitoring station usually out of state. APX i believe has a JD powers award for customer service. Just cause you didnt hit a pay tier and missed out that on you dude.

  • No I'm not an ex employee, but I like to let all you guys think that so go on my friend. But the monitoring is not what I'm talking about. APX does not even own a monitoring station. But if you install in an area you need to keep an office there all year. Not an apt. for 4 months. I agree with you as long as you are in the US you can monitor from anywhere. By the way your 99%? Where did you get that fact from? Something tells me you made it up on the spot to win an argument. Nice try Douche

  • I've had APX alarm since 2007 and have enjoyed the quality, customer service and experience of knowing that I'm safe with the company APX.

  • ok, thank you for the responds.

  • You can certainly do better and very likely get a lower rate. Assuming your account hasn't already been sold to another company.

  • Oh no their license had expired. What a scam?

  • Sarcasm is the refuge of idiots. When a SECURITY company lets licensing lapse it is very serious. The problem with is APX is they take sales seriously and security and installtion takes a back seat. Salesmen run the show there. When you are a company charged with keeping customer's homes and families safe and you cant even keep simple paperwork up to date something is wrong. Your body may be a "Wonderland" ravagetime, but mind is a wind-tunnel. Take your work seriously!

  • What was the "scam"? Have you never driven your car with your plates expired?

  • No I have not. But a business that is taking money to provide their customers with security & are not keeping up thier license & still taking money & operating, is a scam. So I will give you a scenario, if you pay a doctor for care because you beleive he is a real licensed doctor, but you find out he was operating without a license, is that not a scam? Should the doctor still be allowed to practice? No he should'nt because it is illegal, this is not the geeksquad, security is serious business.

  • i used to work for APX in michigan and yes they are horribly corrupt and lie about everything!!! They even screw their employees over so its no just the customers!!!!!!!

  • I've known a few APX salesman. Pretty shady people if you ask me....

  • Pay no attention to this JackInbarAPXalarm character. He has no clue how APX Alarm does business. I've been with this company for many years. I've seen this company grow into what it is today--the fastest growing alarm company. We strive for professional installation that meet all code requirements. We have worked for our superior customer service recognition through JD Powers. Out of 75,000 call centers APX is one of 32 call centers to receive this award. APX will continue to work hard!

  • "Pay no attention to the man behind the green curtain!" You see what Troy here is doing is making my case. He mentions nothing about APX's apartment offices, or their habit of installing alarms with no line seizure. He just says they are "fast growing" and have a large customer service center to handle all the complaints. Why are you avoiding my questions Troy? Answer me this does APX have their summer offices out of apartments or not? You will just blow more smoke. Keep drinking APX kool aid!

  • Go visit your local APX office. Unless you live in Provo, UT you wont find one. They only work in apartments 3 month out of the year. They will have to hire a local non-APX tech to fix it in off season. But again, I challange you to find their office and see it for yourself. Also if your system is working off the phone, send a signal and pick up all the phones on all the jacks. If you hear the sytem dialing out they wired it with out line seizure. Which is not only dangerous but against the law.

  • Dont worry about Apx Goldman and Sacs can take care of them now, If you want a job dont mention the fact that you drink or like to do non-mormon things or you will get fired. Im still smarter than anyone in the summer sales industry except for mr. sparks

  • the truth is, your just jealous about the church of jesus christ of latter day saints...you wish that you could have the self control to turn your life around from where you are (a fat-ass desk job employee just sitting around with no morals). don't make accusations against people that are doing the right thing...as for APX its just a company that you may have had a bad experience with...big deal and get over it, you will have bad experiences all your life.

  • Aww your cute, gonna take you home with me. My favorite thing is how you accused me of being at a "fat-ass desk job" and then turned around and said dont make accusations. You are just adorable. I love how you guys use morals as a when its only to your advantage! He he he

  • well mr jack inbar..are you posting a fact about APX or mormons...this looks like a video about APX...it just so happens to be that its located in utah...alot of companys are centered in utah. and what gives you the place to start making accusations about a fake religion. i don't see anything fake about the mormon church.

  • The fact is most APX door to door sales reps are former Mormon missioniares. You see they have built in training for going up to strangers and pushing things on them they dont want/need. Alarms or Religion. So the two are intertwined. Now they do it in a APX polos and on foot instead of a white shirt and black tie on a bycycle. Your welcome for having me hold your hand while I walked you through the big scary truth.

  • Ummmm...Jack Inbar...just because there is a correlation doesn't mean there is causation. Don't blame APX's shady tactics on the Mormon church. You will find shady sales tactics anywhere you go in this country, whether the salesman were missionaries for ANY church or not.

    Mormon missionaries do not make any money off of sharing their beliefs. In fact they are spending thousands of there own $'s to share those beliefs. They are not binding anyone to long contracts either.

    Huge difference.

  • I am not blaming the mormon church for APX. And yes there are shady people of all denominations. But in terms of APX most people running the show there are Mormons so they get called out on this matter. No missionaries do not make money off their missions. But they use their training of hawking a religion which is like pretty much Scientology with out Tom Cruise to sell crappy alarm systems, and lock people into a 3+ year contract and skip town at the end of the summer.

  • Yes, I agree. They may be mormons with shady tatics, however just because they are mormon doesn't make them a 'good' mormon. The leaders of the Mormon church are saddend by such shady tatics.

  • I would guess the church really has no idea their missionary training being used to sell alarm systems door to door. And then skip town.

  • Yea. Mormons believe in being honest and true. It's sad when some of them decide to be shady and misleading.

  • To be straigh mist do, but the mormons in summer sales are verry corrupeted, and think mor about how many systems they install and not how well they are done. That is why a APX techs have to stay in a customer'shome very late into the evening. If he was told to start at 10pm he might be there till 3am to finish. They want the clock on the 3 day right to cancel to start ASAP. if not the poor tech gets in trouble. The whole company is run by sales. The guys who do the installing are marginalized.

  • Yes, I have heard the techs get the crappy end of the deal. And sometimes the customers too. It's too bad when business gets priority over moral responsiblity. :(

  • I agree with a lot of what you say. I'm an alarm guy in Ohio and have run into some pretty shabby APX installs. My thinking about Mormons is changing, and not for the better. In the past, Ive had profound respect for them and the way they live. I've now come to believe that they've taken "klannish" to a new level. I think that they will bend on ethics for the betterment of "their own." I honestly feel that way-and seeing how they conduct themselves in the alarm biz reinforces that belief.

  • It dosent really matter if your Jack Inbar or not. But, i wish ya best of luck on your stake out and your endeavor trying to bring APX down! You keep at er!!

  • lol

  • Youre still here? I though you would be @ Chipotle peddling your "dead" mom's memory for a free burrito. You have fun scamming the elderly into buying your wireless alarm systems that looks like shower radio. if you really want to "lol" check this out

    type in "APX Cheer" into youtube and enjoy. Its a funny little video that takes place in an apartment that serves as an office. Thats were I want buy my alarm from an aparment rented for the summer.

    L O L

  • nice come back LMAO ha ha ha

  • Will do, thanks for the fake support, that means alot coming from somone who follows a fake religion strated by Joseph Smith Jr. And good luck showing up on peoples doorstep this summer and pushing your crappy Lynx systems with no line seizure. Also enjoy working out of an apartment instead of a real office. Real professional Porter. Hoping your family dies AIDS

    Signed

    Better than you

    PS- Is grandma still farting?

  • Why don't you take your energy/hatred for Mormons, solid APX business tactics, Joseph Smith, etc. and try and make a company that is more successful than APX. You know it, but just don't want to admit it...APX is going to be the number one company in only a few short years. It's just too sad that your hatred probably got you kicked out of the company. Good luck in life. I hope that some day you find happiness, since it seems you don't show much of it to others around you.

  • APX is not going to be the number one company ever. You can't screw over millions of people with out many a DA coming down on you. Plus how is APX going to beat ADT when they dont have any trucks or techs payroll techs? All APX has is college students trained over a spring break and under contract. No insurance or benefits. Yeah that sounds like the kind of solid operation I want from a SECURITY company. Nice try NiRuHuan, which one of your three wifes thought your post would be a good idea?

  • 3 wives? Whatever...not even worth my time. (BTW, learn how to spell otherwise you look like an invalid.) Apparently by the comments you've made you have no clue what you're talking about. There are hundreds of salary paid techs nation wide. There are year round salesman and techs in every county and city where an APX alarm system has been sold. Techs go through NTS, NBFAA, and many other trainings/certifications. There ARE company paid vehicles. Get the facts straight before you talk!!

  • So u consider someone who does not spell check measure of intelligence. So any disabled person (invalid) is of inferior intellect? Not very Mormon of u Huan. I spend as much time on replying to u as u spend pleasuring your wives about 2 min no room for spellcheck, just like no room for your foreplay. But lets see I would like to meet one of your techs could u please point me to a local (non Utah) APX branch. With all the APX labeled trucks? And then I will go inside an request all the licensing.

  • You are one sick individual. Learn to put a little kindness in your words or else one day you will eat the filth you spew. You post the most vulgar and foul things of which there is no inclusive base of fact. Let's also point out your lack of knowledge on how APX truly operates. Get the facts straight or get lost. Im done trying to have a coherent conversation with you. Until you can learn interact more respectfully with others then there is no need for me to continue with this dialogue.

  • You posted this ad midnight on a Friday?! You really must have nothing better to do. I love how all you APX guys can never answer my question on where I can find a non Utah APX "office" that is not in an aparment. You go have fun hiding behind your fake morals. Go put on your holy long johns and white suits and head to the temple to cry to the elder. I bet one will touch your special no no place to make you feel better, probably will cheer him up too. XXOO Jack

  • BTW, Mormons don't live polygamy. :)

  • Of course they do.

  • LOL. No they don't. :)

  • This is not about Mormons or Joseph Smith. If you want your argument to look successful you need to stick to the facts.

  • If its not about Mormons then how is it APX gets most of it's door to door salesmen from BYU? Also the APX is run and owned my Mormons so the 2 are connected. God dammit if you guys don't keep trying to shine the light off of that. They both send young men out to sell people things they don't want or don't work, the LDS church or alarm systems. You guys just can't stand that an "outsider" knows all of this.

  • Doesn't matter. A company is a company. It has nothing to do with Mormonism. The reason it is owned by mormons and most the employees are mormon is because the company is in Utah. It's just a correlation. LOL.

  • it's really sad that you spend so much time trying to create a bad name for us when people will still sign with us b/c we're a great company. unoffically we'd be glad to invite 60 minutes along to see what we do b/c we have nothing to hide and we're not a scam. and yeah we have new techs every year but we keep 90% of our experenced guys. so have a good day and see ya on the news! lol

  • I know for a fact you guys would never let anybody film your pushy door to door salesmen in action. You dont get it, a news story on APX would show all those "stupid" customers angry @ pushed into a contract. Angry that some kid pulled up in an unmaked POS car and stayed in their home past midnight installing a crummy wirless system. And finally it will show APX packing up and going home at the end of the summer. I cant wait to see that on CBS so the whole country can see what I know.

  • "we keep 90% of our experenced guys." You made that # up. LOL real stats like that show thier work. Any time I see a rounded off percentage like that I can smell the stink of bullshit stronger and the fumes from you Mom's rancid cunt. Buy APX! "Remember one glassbreak detector will protect your whole house!" Come see our office, in apartment 114 next to the pay laudry room in some dumpy apartment complex. LOL oh dicedrummer you are funny. I should pay 40$ a month for such fun!

  • Thanks for insulting my dead mother i hope you feel like a bigger man for it.

  • Oh now you have a dead mother. Sorry not falling for it. If your mother really is dead then shame on you for trading on it because you cant stand to take some big bad words. When you push your cheap Honeywell Lynx alarm systems on people do you tell them you have a dead mother and they should buy an APX system from you to make you fell better? LOL

  • dicedrummer man let it go dude. I am sure all you are doing is appreciated, you know that apx is awesome, their reputation is starting to speak for it self, JD Power customer service, the texas relief effort, what an amazing thing to do. Jack Inbar, if it is really you, grow up, just because your past got you booted you act like a child?? All companies have to deal with the crap when they are the best!! Everyone is gunnin for em

  • Man Porter nothing better to do on a Saturday night the get into this. I have said it before, alot of sub par companies have won the JD power, it carries no weight. And the relief effort, if it was all for charity then how come APX uses it to shamlessly promote itself. I just shows you are trying to cleanse your dirty Mormon souls from all the money APX scamed from the Houston area. The best part about all this is you really think im Jack Inbar.

  • Its November, if you are an APX customer and you are reading this call APX now. Ask them for the address for your local APX office. They wont give it to you. You know why there is no local office. They never had one, just aparmenr for salesmen 4 months out of the year. You have no support. They are all MORMON SCUM and carpetbag the US and dont care about good installs. Just sales. I am onto you APX and am not going away.

  • yeah salesmen aren't out all year b/c they are not needed, but did you know about the 1,000 techs in the service department.

  • where are these 1000 techs....?? they are sub-contracted companies...not someone i want to trust my security to

  • there are in every state. it is rare that someone not actually working for APX to go service an alarm system. and by the way jack off every security company in the US does it...

  • oh really?? thats odd, because i happen to know a company that doesn't subcontract at all. some companies dont trust someone else to service their customers....you may wanna check your facts before making comments you can't back up.

  • ha ha what company is that? just so you know i was talking about companies that do more that 500 new accounts a year. other than the small companies that service one or two towns really do subcontract. and yes i know i have worked for 5 different security companys and APX does the least.

  • a NC based company, cpi...80k customers, in 2 offices there were nearly 2500 accounts sold this year...NO subcontracting, period..and you are right, most BIG companies do subcontract.  thats why cpi is different. again , please check your facts.

  • i understand where your coming from, same as you i'm just defending the company that i work for. we are is all 50 states, puerto rico, canada, the UK and australia. this year 2008 we will do over 200,000 new accounts. you can imagine trying to service all those systems so don't judge us b/c we're newer and growing fast, and yes we do keep service techs in all our locations

  • Ok dicedrummer88 why dont you list a few of the local offices. How about the one in say.... I don't know Houston,TX post the address where APX keeps these profesional offices & trucks for their tech's year round. BTW way Brinks does no subcontracting what so ever. So now we all know your "every security company in the US does it" statement was made up by you just your attempt to win an argument. You dumb Mormon wannabe conman, you are just not good at this are you?

  • yeah you know of course i'm not going to list an office just b/c an ass like you asks for it. we have so many customers that they need to go through our main office to handle all the calls and mail that we get every day. and how do you know that brinks doesn't subcontract? have you worked for them? b/c i know for a fact that they do. companines like ADT and Brinks are even worse b/c the don't only do but they deal to other compaines too, and when something goes wrong they pass the responsiblity

  • Your not going to list any local offices because they dont exist. All APX does is rent aparments to work out of for the summer an go back home. Explain this, how is it I only see ADT and Brink trucks on the road and no APX trucks? I know why because they dont own them. I plan to film some APX installers this summer. I guarantee you all the service techs will have out of state plates on thier unmarked POS hundai hatchback they use as their work truck.

  • and just so you know i'm not a mormon you fuck. i bet your one of those stupid people that sign a contact that you couldn't pay for and now yoru all butt hurt that they won't let you out of the contract. you know you should always read a contact beofre you sign anything no matter what it is. it's not like they are holding a gun to your head and making you buy it. what do you have against APX anyways?

  • Your true colors are showing my my little mormon douchebag. So now you call the customers from a company you have so much respect for stupid for doing business with them. You just said it your self stupid people sign an APX contract. I agree with you there only stupid people would do business with APX. But APX also preys on the elderly and low income as well. Just like con men. I cant wait to see 60 minutes' report on you guys for this summer. then the whole country will know about your scam.

  • I know that when I worked for APX three years ago we contracted local technicians out of the area. Many of these would also sub for ADT and other security companies.

    Regarding year-round local offices, I have no clue as to how you'd find one.

  • APX has no choice but to contract other techs for their customers. APX cant service thier own local accounts because when the summer is over they all go home or back to school, leaving the customer holding the bag. Pluse all APX does is install wirless system because they dont know how to install a proper hardwire system. All their "techs" are college kids with a minimal abount of training. APX = Sub par security.

  • say what you want it really doesn't bother me. people aren't stuipd for signing with us, but some are for not reading what they are getting into, and then bitching later when they can't get out of it. i really don't care that you don't believe me that we have service techs everywhere. but whatever. APX will be around for a long time so enjoy trying to bad mouth us b/c you won't win. you like one of the pissed off customers that says that they are going to "own our company" when they get done lol

  • Why would I want to own APX?! lol when you sue your supposed to get something of value. And if you didnt care if I beleived you or not then why are you relying to my posts? You do care, you dont want people to know about your scam operation.

  • Fuck apx!!!!

    they keep fucking calling me!!! i cant get them to stop and when i call them back and put my number on the do not call list they call using a different number!!!!!

    does this happen to anyone else?

    how the fuck do you get them to stop?

  • APX is an exceptional company that provides state of the art security solutions. Sure they use door to door sales, and that method is only used by companies who provide excellent service (e.g Kirby). I have seen the Real APX and know that the company is seriously focused on taking care of it's customers and with increasing its accountability to it's products and customers.

  • I think everybody should have some kind of system especially Fire detectors that through

    the call center Call the Fire Dept.

    I have a Powerhomes Honeywell system.

    It cost abouty a Dollar a Day to protect

    my Home and Family Thats a good deal in my book.

    I know you have a Gun and a Dog Better teach the dog to use the gun Because my house was

    broke into but I was at work The only good thing is they didn't hurt my dog they put him in the bathroom.

  • Its actually called a Honeywell Lynx System they were designed over 10 years ago and are ment for apartments not homes. And APX charges most of their customers 40$+ a month, how many months do you know with 40 days in it? A "dollar a day" is an old sales trick. Plus most APX tech finish installing late into the evening and spend all of 5 minutes explaining how to use their system. Result customers who do not use their system and waste their dollar a day because of the way APX does business.

  • I'm Not Impressed by Company's Move!

  • "The employees were walking neighborhood to neighborhood!" Wow, walking neighborhood to neighborhood! That has got to be the craziest thing I have ever heard. Amazing journalism.

    "It's not professional to send college kids door-to-door." Who would you rather come to your door? How about young adults who aren't trying to improve themselves? How about an adult without a college degree? You expect a suit and tie to knock on your door and offer an alarm system? Silly people.

  • APX used the same tactics to bait and switch our alarm services. We were told that they were doing a promotion and if we agreed to post their sign in our yard, they would give us a security system update. They gave us two remote fobs to arm the system, however these remotes were wired incorrectly. Two nights in a row the police showed up at our door (guns drawn) because the remotes were wired wrong. This is a very dishonest outfit. If they come a knockin'...DO NOT OPEN THE DOOR.

  • Check this. If your system is working off you home phones make sure you have line seizure. If they wired your alarm to the nearest phone jack, like in the kitchen they didnt do it correctly. Send a test signal and pick up all the phones in the house, check this on all your phone jacks even unused ones. Hear the system dialing? That is bad. That means your alarm signal can be stopped by simply picking up a phone. APX is notorious for doing this. APX techs dont take the time to do it right.

  • I got a APX alarm in early Aug,the sales man was not pushy, he answered all my questions, and got me what i wanted. of cource i knew what i was getting into before i got the alarm. its a good deal i had seen what i could get with ADT and Brinks. APX was the best for my family, wife and kids. its sad to see the media pick out this womans story and try and make something out of it. she is the one that signed the contract right? they didnt make her do anything. o well i guess anyone can complane.

  • BEWARE OF PINNACLE SECURITY AS WELL!!

  • I read the training manual they give their employees, and all I can say is they pry on customers like this lady. They rely on "emotional-based purchasing" so they target new neighborhoods where stay-at-home moms are the norm, as well as neighborhoods where many elderly people live. They're good with their words, and know how to manipulate you into purchasing something you really don't want. If someone comes to your door, NEVER purchase on the spot, always when the salesperson isn't there.

  • that salesmen is sure cute though!!! and buy an alarm from apx, I love mine.

  • High pressure sales + exorbitant buyout clause + non-solicited purchase + supposed advertising customer + over priced monitoring + major licensing issues + long term contract + no local office = Complaints like these.

    Contracts aren't bad, but unlike a $200 cell phone buyout, alarms are almost $1200 - $2000 to get out of if you realize in a month it sucks and not as sweet as the salesman made it.

    No such thing as 100% customer satisfaction, money back guarantees or anything. Buyer beware.

  • This Lady is an Idiot. I sell alarms in Arizona and sorry to say but Door to Door is the best way. Lady get a life.

  • you can't trust the apx salesmen?dude, they're salesmen!all salesmen say&do anything to make the sale!try buying a car,a house,even a sweater w/hearin the truth...you won't be able to!as for"sending college kids isn't professional"?y?? bc they're just going to spend their money on beer for keggers?!bite me!i'd trust someone my age over a 60yr old who's been in the business far too long!she had 3 days to cancel.if she's to stupid check in that window oftime,then im glad they "scammed" $outta'her!

  • Having worked in customer service @ an alarm company I can tell you that this lady signed up, regretted it, couldn't cancel it (point of a contract), and her excuse is that it is unprofessional to send around college kids. I guess it is okay to blame others for your stupid decision, but I say take some responsibility-you signed the contract! If you don't want something or feel the company is not professional-don't do business with them! Don't whine after the fact bc you made a bad buying choice

  • unprofessional? tell that to some of the guys I know who make over 100k in a summer...im not really a fan of apx...but im a fan of summer sales and to be honest they had nothing against them...she was mad because her system was sold to her a few days after contract expired? i guarantee every office in ever company has done this once or twice. this whole report is dumb