WML Cameramen

[TWOfudgies]

In any of today's shows the performers would not have a clue as to the appearances of their own cameramen, nevermind being able to recognize them by their names.

[observer9670]

FCC rules prohibit charging admission to studio audiences. This goes back to radio and is still in effect today.

[ziggycat999]

Arlene Frances had the most sexist laugh lines on her face.

[binaway]

These guys are employees of the network. Today they are all temporary employees even after 20 years. Saves the network paying benefits.

[dtw1958]

@binaway Well that is the Unions fault for agreeing to those terms in the first place. Also many times the studios keep them on payroll vs laying them off (Which they can).

[tomitstube]

i've only seen the women stand one other time, arlene wasn't on that show. arlene's replacement stood, so i guess dorothy felt obligated. i don't remember who it was. i want to say alfred hitchcock but i'm not sure.

[jimaroo100]

@tomitstube Both Arlene and Dorothy stood for Bishop Fulton Sheen. And Dorothy (a Catholic) kissed his ring. 

[tomitstube]

@jimaroo100 ~ i haven't seen that one, i was wrong about them standing for alfred hitchcock, but have seen them both stand for jimmy durante and eleanor roosevelt. it is a rarity.

[LowRising89]

@tomitstube The women also stood when a Nun appeared.

[bronxbearbud]

@LowRising89 Everybody also stood when Eleanor Roosevelt appeared. I'm just glad Jerry Lewis wasn't on the panel that night - Lord knows what he might have said to her, as when he asked the fat lady who packaged diet pills why she didn't use her own product (or something like that). Hmmm...

"HEY LADY - I'm the one with the goofy voice!"

[irvingklaw57]

Wow, the women stood to shake their hands.

[stematfisnyc]

I'm never disappointed in the class and refinement of these people. Arlene and Dorothy always stand up for those they hold in high regard. I was pleased to see them both stand for all three of these men.

[Salmagundiii]

@stematfisnyc

I agree. One frequently reads such words applied to this program: class, refinement, elegance and civility. I think another one people sometimes forget to include is graciousness. Maybe it's the base upon which the rest are founded. But consider: Mr. Daly & the panelists always find something nice to say to the guest, or pose some sincere inquiry, even after the "revenue moment" is over. There's no rush to commercial. It's such a far cry from today's reality shows.

[LKKruse]

@stematfisnyc

That was certainly back in the days when actors respected crewmen. Today very few actually do.

[opossum765]

"If they don't pay to watch you and they don't pay to go into the place, you must be associated with television." I don't know what Arlene had, but I just love her! So fun, intelligent and beautiful. But the whole show is amazing. I just can't stop watching these clips.

[chilvari]

I love Arlene! She is just so awesome! lol!

[omgbygollywow]

So sad that they all are gone. :(

[jvolstad]

I love WML. The days when life was a lot simpler.

[heelrunner]

Arlene is sharp!

[MsSarjen]

@heelrunner I really like her style and attitude.

[TrevWks]

I love seeing the last guy go back to his camera.

[MsSarjen]

@TrevWks He seemed to be enjoying himself.

[johnclipper5]

nice

[Kate8790]

Arlene Francis was a class act. She was beautiful, smart, and funny. I know she passed a few years ago but she will be missed. RIP Arlene, the best panelist and actress of all time!

[graperonto]

Ooooh.... another example of when the WOMEN stood up to shake hands. I think I count SIX times that took place now.

[lytrigian]

Wait -- if these are the cameramen... Who's operating the cameras?

[MsSarjen]

@lytrigian They're operating themselves.

[stormycape]

I understand.....I used to be a TV Cameraman......on many shows.

[wheresmylife]

Arlene Frances was always my most favorite panelist. She, John Daly and Bennett Cerf are the best things about this show.

[pepsibookcat]

That was cute.

[UDIETHATWAY]

I've noticed Dorothy curtsy several times on this show to the departing guests...she's sweet.

[khtx]

WOW Arlene looks so very beautiful! Especially when she smiles.

[grainofsandfan]

Arlene Frances has to be one of the smartest people in the entertainment industry, ever.

[CarlyIsAGangster]

@grainofsandfan Yes she is!!

Not to mention very attractive as well : ]

[funkeekatt]

@grainofsandfan I agree. She seems to get guess what people do very quickly and she has an appealing whit about her. She's not a pompous pain-in the-ass like Dorothy.

[doc1917]

@funkeekatt taking one pompous pain-in the ass to know one.

[CarlyIsAGangster]

Arlene is SOO funny.

She looked some damn pretty in this episode too!

She always does.

[geyser]

Why did the girls rise when the cameramen shook hands with them?

[hankaaron1961]

I'll let Arlene tell you why at 4:26 mark.

[646guy]

Respect? They are colleagues after all...

[ChristainPatriot01]

I love the irony of this.

[OldTimerGoGetter]

I particularly enjoyed this one...it was entertaining, yes, but not only that my grandfather (who is still alive and kicking) was a sound mixer on the other side of the continent (well, looking from New York).

It's kind of nice to see occasionally these behind-the-scene and on-the-other-side-of-the-light­s people come out and show a little bit of personality.

[Wellch]

That was a short commerical. he he he 8-)

[renofirvine]

note the use of british grammar-mr andrews says 'the audience don't'-a group is known as a 'they ' not an 'it'--i have some shampoo from sainsbury's market and they state'sainsbury insist ' on a sentence on the bottle

[soulierinvestments]

GSN broadcast this in November 2008. It featured

WML's cameramen and a shot of a 1957 TV camera.

Dade County, Florida Deputy Sheriff who operates drunkometer chemical test for intoxication

Buddy Hackett in one of his earliest appearances. He appeared through 1965 with regularity.

a Gorilla Baby Sitter in Toledo Zoo

The producers of WML were geniuses. What's not to love?

[wmbrown6]

The camera shown was the RCA TK-10/30 camera which was first introduced around 1947. After "WML?" switched theatres in 1960, their new home used TK-11/31 cameras (replaced c.1962-63 by Marconi Mark IV cameras), and for their final season in 1966-67, when they switched to The Ed Sullivan Theatre, the cameras used were the color Norelco PC-60's.

[soulierinvestments]

and it still gripes me that someone didn't save any of the color videotapes of the 1966-7 season. Thanx for the details.

[rentatrip1]

At the time - the studio tape was very wide (about 3 or 4 inches across) the reels which held them were very large about 18 inches across - heavy AMPEX Video TApe - these ran at a fairly fast speed - on machines - larger than your washing machine ! the expense and storage required to house the permanent library (climate controled) in a refrigerated & dry warehouse in Ny City would have been a very expensive ordeal- besides the Tapes tend to decompose over long periods- ? understand ?

[soulierinvestments]

"If they don't pay to watch you and they don't pay to get into the place, you must be associated with television." Well, there it is in a nutshell.

The game is interesting of course, and amusing, but I find the 1957 TV camera at the end of the sequence fascinating. Lo how technology hath changed in a mere 51 years.

[allegrazie]

Arlene is developing a whole new fan base! Note Dorothy's whimsical curtsy while bidding the boys adieu--- and Arlene's half-stand: Honor the men who take your close-ups!

[SueBeaWho]

"The clear cold logic of my wife's mind."

"Trapped!"

[BethBetteJulie]

Arlene is so clever :)

[gottamatch]

haha what a great epp! Thanks for posting! I'm addicted to this show, keep em coming :)

[CK1223]

thank u

[Fenhalls]

crepehanger47, really excellent clips you posted today. Many thanks, as always.

[georgiadawg18]

That was a good one.

[ClassicFilmFan]

Dorothy is really an attentive listener! But they are all showing us what some clever questioning is (;

&I really find those "Guests involved with WML?-episodes" amusing to watch :D

Thanks!