Chuck Missler: Gap Theory, Fall of Satan PART 3 of 4

[christiannandres]

alabado sea EL SANTO DE YISRAEL, YHWH...

[stybarrow1]

i suspect, based on others suggestion, that Lucifer appeared in the Garden as a dragon. if you read the verses, God cast him into the form of serpent as punishment - afterward.

[TheKith88]

he says it himself that its just another view to be looked at ,not absolute truth.

[treslunas]

I GOT THAT CONNECTION GOD BLESS!

[dambobjob]

notice that the devil is destroyed. not in enternal punishment. Also notice that the fire is part of god "eternal" fire. shares the same characteristic as god. Anyway hell isnt eternal.

[stybarrow1]

@dambobjob no, Satan walks the Earth and is facing looming punishment / incarceration. read Job, various New Testament passages and Revelations, for instance.

[dambobjob]

@stybarrow1 Ive was raised up to believe in hell, so I know all about it. It have done quite a bit of study on the topic, and have come to believe that the scripture does not support the greek style mythological hell.

A video that explains the basics:

/watch?v=72eJeryrQeI

[dieKoninginderNacht]

I would like to expand on Satan's musical ties. People assume that rock n roll is evil- however, it would be better said that it can be used for evil. But it can also be used for good. Look at rap, it is often used to promote drugs, the degradation of women, crime, etc. Does that mean rap itself is evil? No. It services whatever the wielder chooses it to be.

[vizion24]

Satan, who has musical capabilities, is said to have possessed a lot of rock n roll musicians such as Jimi Hendrix, Robert Johnson, Prince, Nirvana, Elvis, John Lennon, Tori Amos etc. which explains their talent. They said it themselves they were possessed. Watch 'they sold their souls for rock n roll' on Youtube.

[christiannandres]

@vizion24 i believe they did, but i also believe GOD gives the same (or even better)talent to some christians too

[ghostgate82]

"By the way, he was not Christ's brother". LOL I love Chuck. Mormons are so deceived.

[RevengeOfIjapa]

ALL OF YOU, STO[P FIGHTING ON YOUTUBE!!!!!!!!!

IT IS IMMATURE AND REALLY SAD!!!!

I CAN'T EVEN COMMENT WITHOUT GETTING ANNOYED AT FOOLISH FIGHTS OVER NOTHING!!!!!

[astgraphicnovel]

Wow this is different... I have never heard of anything like this.. It is very interesting!

[faithalonein1Christ]

freemason doctrine

[hipeeps549]

wow, never heard the gap theory presented in this way. I'm reconsidering my views on this

[zoarXgold]

I'm thinking about Mars when Chuck is saying that some scholars speculate that perhaps there was another world that was destroyed because of Satan... I mean, didn't they say that it's possible that there could have been life on Mars once???

[stybarrow1]

@zoarXgold look at the very ancient, unexplained ruins in Turkey, SW Asia, off the coast of Japan etc.

[merlesmith]

You greatly err! The statement by Moses in the begining means the start not a remake and God made a male Adam and female Eve. You are being led astray.

this is riddled with false doctrine. Chapter one is an over-view and chapter 2 is an detailed account.

[ChapmanGriffith]

Jesus, "Before Adam was I" book of James. As the bible is written, the angles including Luicfer were created before planet earth was setup for human life.

[premlor]

That is a whole lot of speculatiob, because the Bible does not say all that, it might imply something along those lines, but you are definitely adding to the revelation that God has given to us.

[1Rockbilly]

@premlor if you listen to how he presents this and then put in the amount of study and understanding that Chuck brings to the table you would not say what you said here.

[pleonrhyme]

Be careful. Just because our Sunday school books did not reflect this teaching doesn't make it wrong. I understand where you're coming from, but really take a look into what is being taught.

[mutabrev]

Are you saying Adam had a second wife?

You better have some serious insights.

[pleonrhyme]

Lol. I'm saying Eve was his second wife. His first companion was CREATED WITH him (Gen 1:27), which means they were both created by the Spirit of God out of nothing. Eve was MADE from Adam. She wasn't "created" out of nothing, but was clearly "MADE" from a rib of Adam. (Gen 2:21-23). When male and female were first "created" they were TOGETHER called ADAM. It's interesting. But I had to learn first that there is a difference between the words "created" and "made" in Hebrew. Glory to God.

[zoarXgold]

@pleonrhyme wow! So I guess Lilith really did exist after all??? I thought this was just Jewish mysticism... wow, wow, wow, one learns something new everyday! And I am sooo sure if I shared this with my dad he would soooo tell me that I'm wrong. lol... God, even in the Church the whole truth is not being spoken. :(

[Leoneomatrix]

To better understand the creation process described in Gen chapter 1 you ought to look it at

restoration and not creation for the creation itself happened Gen 1:1, Lucifer and other Archangels used to carry out a lot of affairs throughout the universe at God's will until something awfully took place and he fell!

[mytreasure777]

I greatly appreciate Kevin Hovind's seminars on creation. In one of them he tried to go against gap theory. So he said that Lucifer was created on day one or two and thus he could witness the creation of Earth on day three, Job 38:4-7, Gen 1:9-10. But the Scripture says that the Earth was already created in Gen 1:1 but became formless and void, anyway the foundation of Earth had been laid before day one, so Lucifer existed before day one.

[mutabrev]

Does this make any difference? In the beginning God created space and matter. And the matter was formless and void. Are we assuming earth means this planet? I'm not trying to be blasphemous. Just conjecturing myself. Any thoughts?

[pleonrhyme]

Not sure, but I think earth always refers to this planet. One of the things that changed the way I studied Genesis was the two words "created" (bara in Hebrew) , which means to create out of nothing, and "made" (asah), which means to fashion or form out of pre-existing material. This understanding led us to some interesting discovering regarding the creation of the earth, as well as Adam and his TWO (yes TWO) companions.

[Jer0mmel]

Such a nice guy to watch and listen to.

Chuck is cool.

[steom888]

satan and the angels all lived in atlantis, then God judged thier sins and remade the earth re-populating it with man.

[1Rockbilly]

@steom888 That has some possibilities

[steom888]

would God not know satan would sin when he created him ?

[Philos2006]

Gap Theory, Fall of Satan ---

What a heap of fantasy, wishful thinking, speculation, misinterpretation, mistranslation, word-smything, and crap.

[dkava76]

In other words it challenges your pre-concieved notions and/or what you have been taught or you just didn't watch it. If you knew anything about Chuck Missler, it is that he wants you to prayerfully consider all he teaches and not take him at his word, but do your own research. But he also asks that you leave your bias at the door when you listen. Sounds like to me you are little too upset about his view. May want to ask yourself why.

[strech7951]

the sign on the door should say: Serious Bible Students Willing to Lay Aside Presuppositions Only, Everyone Else Need Not Apply.1st Cor. 13

[Yuratchka]

Go learn some Hebrew, you're the one having wishful thinking.

Genesis 1:1 In [a/some] beginning ELOHIM filled the skys and the earth.

It doesn't use the word for IN THE BEGINNING (BARISHONA), but rather uses a word for a beginning or some beginning, B'RESHIYT.

[demoniclordwizard]

Fairy tale ? The only fairy tale being told is that evolution garbage. Do some proper research about all the subjects before coming to stupid conclusions.

[xxxslayerxxx666]

@demoniclordwizard evolution is fact......now the assumption that evolutionists make is fucking retarded!

[christiannandres]

@demoniclordwizard amen!evolution is for spiritual blinds who need to believe in men, blinds leading blinds...

[stybarrow1]

@christiannandres you should go play quasi-intellectual somewhere else. maybe a juvenile Warcraft youtube would be up your alley, spooky wizard (geez).

[gregrutz]

@demoniclordwizard Fairy tale ? There are over 250,000 peer-reviewed scientific studies on evolution, with full support from every related life science, including genetics. There has not been a single falsification to refute evolution in 150 years of relentless scrutiny!

It is the backbone of Biology, accepted by all scientists.

[stybarrow1]

@gregrutz not all scientist endorse evolution, BTW. in fact, many dont. and more and more are looking at certain species and unable to explain their existence within the parameters of evolution. either way, my faith doesnt hinge on the issue.

[gregrutz]

@stybarrow1 Correct, not all scientists accept evolution. Just 99.98% of Biologists do.

Evolution does not ''explain their existence''. The Theory of Evolution is about life changing over the history of the earth. [see fossil record]

[riskingeuphoria]

@demoniclordwizard people dont understand that evolution only says that hereditary charicteristics are passed down the generation so you have a genome from the gametes of you r mother and father.. the head of the human genome project is a massive christian ill send you a link about how the theory of evolutions majsty turned him christian from athiest if you feel like it, the theory that evolution started from amino acids in the sea is different though conected.

[riskingeuphoria]

@demoniclordwizard well it says that and through natural selection and mutations in genes new charicteristics are made and the bad ones make the person die and then the good ones make them live better, like with breading animals in a farm.. darwin was also christian untill his wife died then he though god could not exist if he controls such fate,,

[stybarrow1]

@demoniclordwizard how do you explain the Monarch butterfly, for instance ?

[gregrutz]

@stybarrow1 Explain why a global flood did not leave any evidence.

[gregrutz]

@demoniclordwizard There are over 250,000 peer-reviewed scientific studies on evolution, with full support from every related life science, including genetics. DNA Code itself proves how all life is related to all life.

There has not been a single falsification to refute evolution in 150 years of relentless scrutiny!

It is the backbone of Biology, accepted by 99.98% of biologists.

[7olusegun]

Philos2006; are you a nephilim?

[muladar10]

thanks chuck ive been making it more clear for me sence ive been seeing u, verything i knew is benn more clear,,, in reallity ppl must have lots of knewledge to get whats goin on :D thanks

[devilzzz999]

Hey why is Obama consider the antichrist?

and LOL, what does that mean?

[DookiePlats]

lol = laugh out loud

[1Rockbilly]

@devilzzz999 It is a Catholic thing, for some reason they have misinterpreted some scripturein Daniel and jumped to some very wrong conclusions. President Obama is not the antichrist. I encourage you to search youtube for more teachings on the anti-christ and or the mark of the beast. There is a lot of goofy stuff about it, but if you stay with Chuck Missler you can gather a good solid understanding of the Anti-christ.

[aoxomoxoa88]

Muck Chissler?

[caploves1019]

1st :P

[TheSaviourLives]

lol

[caploves1019]

Sorry, I never had the chance to before and felt the necessity existed herein XD

[TheSaviourLives]

No Problem mate :-)