@ArbalestRaptor It actually makes sense when you think about it. Lone Wolf has conversion barrels so with my G23 (normally a .40) I can shoot 357 sig or 9mm. The thing I like is I can shoot different calibers for different reasons (CCW, self defense, practice, etc). When I practice I shoot about 2-300+ rounds easy. Its much cheaper to shoot 9mm than .40 or 357 sig.
Just another reason I like having multi-functional equipment.
I have a question. With the smaller grain rounds, there is an increase in kinetic energy upon impact due to the bullet traveling at a faster speed. How do you decide what is really better, when you pit a slower, larger, yet "weaker" hit against a smaller and faster hit that statistically speaking has more impact energy?
I understand larger bullets potentially do more damage once inside something, due to more mass.
Love your videos, they have been helpful to me and my shooting. My brother is a associate Pastor here in cheyenne wyoming and he has a .40 and I have the xd45, i hunt alot and would like to know your thoughts on defense load to carry for bear, I dont hunt bear but if ever i was to run into unwanted game what should i look at? also i see a lot that a 45 is not enough for a charging bear but its all i have right now.
Good question, we here in MN don't have to worry about dangerous animals aside from canines, and the occasional cougar (4-legged). My Uncle Mike from MT carries his .45 long colt or .44 mag while in the field, he has spent a considerable amount of time in the woods and has never been forced to shoot a bear, so I cannot attest to the effectiveness of either weapon as an anti bear gun, just sayin!
safearmsreview I'm dissapointed in you. You kicked someone out for disagreeing with you. I thought you preached freedom and the constitution. Looks like you don't like to walk the walk, but just talk it. Now I won't know what gun this guy was talking about is the best. Good luck being on Freedomizer, I'm sure they will love to know you censor people who speak out.
No where do we have to accept ignorance & promote something that could endanger ppl.
The claim you only have to shoot a gun once & thats it is FOOLISHNESS & can lead to someone getting killed because they didnt practice enough. Its NOT safe nor is it being responsible hence the reason to dismiss them.
If a person came to my firearms class saying this same stuff, I would escort him off the range for promoting unsafe & irresponsible actions/inaction.
Shooting stuff with shotguns and slugs is just plain fun. I always have a blast during Halloween when I take pumpkins out for people who want to get rid of them and just watching them exploded as I put slugs from my Mossberg 500 into them.
Man that 870 +slug combo does some damage. I have a stock 870 and slugs but I've never fired them. Now that my days off are during the week (and now that my cataract surgery has restored the sight in my right eye) I'll be able to hit the range again.
As I heard you say before, Perfect practice makes perfect. Practice makes it permanant. If you aim for nothing... that's what you'll hit. A good rule for many things in life. Keep the vids coming.
STEVE-----Thanks for that 357sig Ball/HP test...... much appreciated.... That Rem 870 12ga is just amazing!!!! It would be cool to line up 4 or 5 milk jugs in a line and fire the 870 thru them length-wise to see a single 12ga slug penetration thru 5 gal of water.... I suspect that would be verry cool... Tanks again!!!!!!!!!!
Have you ever considerd making gelatin blocks to show the depth of penetration for body simulation? Showing the water jugs or even metal coffee cans filled with water are a great visual but the blocks would show some penetration/damage in a different light.
Great job bud. Good shooting for a Glock. And the mic sounds great. You just lost stereo and your down to left channel only. But other then that its great. God Speed
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Man you could feed an army of starving children with all that ammo you waste. There has got to be something more useful to talk about then guns and ammo all the time. A person only needs one gun.
you obviously know nothing about firearms. Go watch something else. Why don't YOU go feed starving children by selling you car, computer, xbox, mp3 player, TV, etc., etc.
Oh, and is it wasting ammo to practice? I think not-the wasted ammo comes when a person who is not proficient with their weapon attempts to defend themselves with it.
I only got one computer. I don't need 100 guns that do the same stuff like Steve. I also don't need to confirm I can shoot a target 1000 times a week like Steve does. You only need one gun and shoot it once to know it works. The rest is waste. The bible teaches against WASTE.
You know what I mean. I don't mean literally one time, but not having 100 guns and going to practice 1000 times a year. This is utterly ridiculous. And your right it does preach against being a dumbass and thats called shooting tons of guns you don't need.
I dont have 100 guns nor do I practice 1,000 times year. The training I do is to keep me proficient at my job, to protect others & family. I guess taking my responsibility seriously really bugs you. Or perhaps its cause I teach firearms classes for free? Or teach useful info here on yt? I dont know but you seem to have big problems & are misusing the bible in attacking me & my family.
Perhaps you need to go else where - to someone more you liking. I hope that works out for you.
No I don't have a problem with you. I just think its a waste of money to buy tons of guns and waste all that ammo. The money could be used for something actually productive. IMO
I don't have 'tons of guns' nor do I 'waste all that ammo'.
Ur claim of providing me & my family firearms to defend themselves, keeping proficient, & teaching others to do the same is a waste. I beg to differ - I teach firearms classes for free among other things, but u don't take that into consideration do u? Nope, u never even asked what I do outside of yt & the other 'productive' things my family & I do.
Sorry u feel this way but in light of ur attacks, I hope you do well elsewhere.
BTW ur neglecting the fact if I do have to protect someone, that if I do not practice then that could mean the lives of those around me.
If you dont use it, you lose it.
I would hate to have the death of someone on my conscience because I was ignorant in thinking you only have to shoot a gun once & there is no need to stay proficient.
Ppl miss the target because they stressed & not proficient - sustainment training is important (at least to the military, law enforcement, etc).
skyding said... "You only need one gun and shoot it once to know it works."
My time in the military, law enforcement and numerous training statistics from FBI, military & local law shows the exact opposite.
Training under stress conditions, replicating malfunctions and performing immediate actions drills and putting rounds on target is very important. Once proficient you need to continue to train to stay proficient.
BTW your ad hominem attacks are telling - I hope that works out for you.
Hes an experienced person in the military. He doesn't need anymore practice. Secondly he doesn't need 100 guns or whatever obnoxious numbers. Last I checked you only need one gun. But Go ahead, keep promoting senseless materialism for nothing. Having multiple guns and multiple practices serves no purpose.
sky your still wrong. I dont have 100 guns, I have enough for me & my family.
Your claim that training is not needed to say proficient is pure ignorance. I suppose the military, police, FBI, state troopers, swat & other law enforcement dont need to train anymore even despite all the stats & facts stating it is needed.
Since you dont like what I do, how I train in my job or with my family, or how I provide for ppl in the local community, I'm gonna send you on your way.
Hopefully you will find someone more to your liking elsewhere.
You have proven my point-you know nothing-zip-about firearms and yet you presume to come and lecture an expert. You go ahead and buy ONE gun and shoot it ONCE. Then hope and pray you never encounter an enemy who is remotely proficient with his weapon. He will kill you.
We all owe our families a better level of security than to buy a weapon and take it out of the box to shoot once & then relegate it to the bedside drawer. What if that one gun malfunctions?
If that firearm malfunctions and your not proficient in clearing it thru sustained training, to continue the fight, you and your family might end up dead.
@skyding8962 It is obvious your a troll looking for confrontation on these blogs to get yourself off in some way. The rest of us are here to share in the constructive knowledge of others. Steve just happens to want to share his knowledge with others, for nothing in return, except maybe good conversation. If you find us wrong according to your standards, then just go some where else and start arguments with others of your mind set.
siick shotty
esdubau 11 months ago
I am looking at getting a Glock 35 (.40 cal) and a conversion barrel for 357SIG.
From your experience, what are your thoughts on doing this?
I wanted the longer barrel for the 357SIG to get more velocity.
frankgon4 1 year ago
pause at 4:16
remalicious123 1 year ago
Beautiful
neemguy81 1 year ago
I was not expecting the SIG 357 hollow point to do this.
FYI: You can reload SIG-357 using 9mm bullets.
frankgon4 1 year ago
Glock 23 with 9mm? lol
ArbalestRaptor 1 year ago
@ArbalestRaptor That's what I said... lol I know they have conversion kits but standard Glock 23 is .40
acyd9 1 year ago
@ArbalestRaptor It actually makes sense when you think about it. Lone Wolf has conversion barrels so with my G23 (normally a .40) I can shoot 357 sig or 9mm. The thing I like is I can shoot different calibers for different reasons (CCW, self defense, practice, etc). When I practice I shoot about 2-300+ rounds easy. Its much cheaper to shoot 9mm than .40 or 357 sig.
Just another reason I like having multi-functional equipment.
:)
SafeArmsReview 1 year ago 3
@SafeArmsReview Sorry I forgot about conversion barrels, I though he got the guns mixed up. lol
ArbalestRaptor 1 year ago
freaky
funnymonkey201 1 year ago
He steve,
Always nice to see a nice vid and a good deal of save humor.
5 stars or otherwise a LIKE !!!
robin6512 1 year ago
I have a question. With the smaller grain rounds, there is an increase in kinetic energy upon impact due to the bullet traveling at a faster speed. How do you decide what is really better, when you pit a slower, larger, yet "weaker" hit against a smaller and faster hit that statistically speaking has more impact energy?
I understand larger bullets potentially do more damage once inside something, due to more mass.
AmyLeesPetWookiee 1 year ago
Great vids! Love the comic-book effect!
mywytefeet 2 years ago
great video the rem 870 is looking sweet
redmule02 2 years ago
Love your videos, they have been helpful to me and my shooting. My brother is a associate Pastor here in cheyenne wyoming and he has a .40 and I have the xd45, i hunt alot and would like to know your thoughts on defense load to carry for bear, I dont hunt bear but if ever i was to run into unwanted game what should i look at? also i see a lot that a 45 is not enough for a charging bear but its all i have right now.
crerar01 2 years ago
Good question, we here in MN don't have to worry about dangerous animals aside from canines, and the occasional cougar (4-legged). My Uncle Mike from MT carries his .45 long colt or .44 mag while in the field, he has spent a considerable amount of time in the woods and has never been forced to shoot a bear, so I cannot attest to the effectiveness of either weapon as an anti bear gun, just sayin!
Chiliconnada 2 years ago
Great Fun, Thanks for sharing your great adventures!
siguser17 2 years ago
that was cool, been wanting to do that myself, maybe next trip to the range. ooh rah!
smithjacusmc 2 years ago
LOL @ Jack of Diamonds, name of my Tattoo shop, and as you can see steady under fire, lol
Another great video from SAR, Peace
tat2dano 2 years ago
Thanks for getting the wireless mic.. so much easier to hear what you're saying.
limegreendream67 2 years ago
safearmsreview I'm dissapointed in you. You kicked someone out for disagreeing with you. I thought you preached freedom and the constitution. Looks like you don't like to walk the walk, but just talk it. Now I won't know what gun this guy was talking about is the best. Good luck being on Freedomizer, I'm sure they will love to know you censor people who speak out.
ConsumerSlaves 2 years ago
No where do we have to accept ignorance & promote something that could endanger ppl.
The claim you only have to shoot a gun once & thats it is FOOLISHNESS & can lead to someone getting killed because they didnt practice enough. Its NOT safe nor is it being responsible hence the reason to dismiss them.
If a person came to my firearms class saying this same stuff, I would escort him off the range for promoting unsafe & irresponsible actions/inaction.
Failing to practice is planning to fail.
SafeArmsReview 2 years ago 3
Amen.
mywytefeet 2 years ago
@ConsumerSlaves
That was about the most ignorant thing i have heard all day...and I hear A LOT of it...
CPLBSS88 1 year ago
i always wanted a 357 sig but i cant offord the ammo
S0LDIERx0FxG0D 2 years ago
Yea its hard to find it here where I live but not impossible
for regular practice I use 9mm, 40 and 45.
:)
SafeArmsReview 2 years ago
which kinds of shotgun rounds mostly people like to buy
rohan9621 2 years ago
Much improved sound during high-wind.
veritasfiles 2 years ago
just picked up a glock 22 (40s&w). Kicks like a mule compared to my xd 45.
The only other gun I own that kicks like it is my cz 52 with surplus ammo.
But somehow I like it...........
Great video, thanks Steve!
kultbagusa 2 years ago
@kultbagusa thats what i said..i have that and the 23 at the moment and the 23 seems to have a smoother recoil..
S0LDIERx0FxG0D 2 years ago
Very cool Video*****
OilTheGun 2 years ago
the new mic sounds good
qmachine08 2 years ago
Shooting stuff with shotguns and slugs is just plain fun. I always have a blast during Halloween when I take pumpkins out for people who want to get rid of them and just watching them exploded as I put slugs from my Mossberg 500 into them.
sotik 2 years ago
★★★★★
MadBadVoodo 2 years ago
magic trick, you made that jack disappear.
i would have you for my neighbor instead of all the pussies that live around here. peace.
BernieMadoffLMAO 2 years ago
Man that 870 +slug combo does some damage. I have a stock 870 and slugs but I've never fired them. Now that my days off are during the week (and now that my cataract surgery has restored the sight in my right eye) I'll be able to hit the range again.
vention4wh 2 years ago
Kool Video Steve Im loving that 357sig HP ammo.
bigjune29 2 years ago
As I heard you say before, Perfect practice makes perfect. Practice makes it permanant. If you aim for nothing... that's what you'll hit. A good rule for many things in life. Keep the vids coming.
The Rev
reverendhull 2 years ago
Awesome video Steve!!!!
Thanks
mejt223 2 years ago
That new mic is working very good. Nice video.
biguy525 2 years ago
STEVE-----Thanks for that 357sig Ball/HP test...... much appreciated.... That Rem 870 12ga is just amazing!!!! It would be cool to line up 4 or 5 milk jugs in a line and fire the 870 thru them length-wise to see a single 12ga slug penetration thru 5 gal of water.... I suspect that would be verry cool... Tanks again!!!!!!!!!!
frontier1701 2 years ago
Have you ever considerd making gelatin blocks to show the depth of penetration for body simulation? Showing the water jugs or even metal coffee cans filled with water are a great visual but the blocks would show some penetration/damage in a different light.
PowerPrudent 2 years ago
HIgh velocity with a smaller round means much of the energy passes through the target without being delivered.
vinayakaya 2 years ago
maby stupid question..... but wy don't day make an shotgun hollowpoint slug. that wood be sweet to se XD
AnobisBloodwing 2 years ago
I wish i could go shooting with you looks like a great place to shoot
chrisw40 2 years ago
Very cool Steve! The wireless mic seems to serve it's intended purpose well. Great job as always man.
hathcocked 2 years ago
5 star vid as always! I enjoy all your vids, but especially the ones with shooting and ammo comparisons. Entertaining and informative. Thanks.
robertoray1277 2 years ago
Seems like audio drops to mono when you use the wireless rig. It sounds very clear, just need to figure out how to get it in stereo.
sportsornothin 2 years ago
Great job bud. Good shooting for a Glock. And the mic sounds great. You just lost stereo and your down to left channel only. But other then that its great. God Speed
Goindeff 2 years ago
Great shooting medley! Did I miss vid on sight upgrade to 870?
mattswall 2 years ago
hey, your camera and mic are working very excellently, especially in that wind.
very good job. love your targets too !!
operator223 2 years ago
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Man you could feed an army of starving children with all that ammo you waste. There has got to be something more useful to talk about then guns and ammo all the time. A person only needs one gun.
skyding8962 2 years ago
you obviously know nothing about firearms. Go watch something else. Why don't YOU go feed starving children by selling you car, computer, xbox, mp3 player, TV, etc., etc.
Oh, and is it wasting ammo to practice? I think not-the wasted ammo comes when a person who is not proficient with their weapon attempts to defend themselves with it.
robertoray1277 2 years ago 4
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@robertoray1277
I only got one computer. I don't need 100 guns that do the same stuff like Steve. I also don't need to confirm I can shoot a target 1000 times a week like Steve does. You only need one gun and shoot it once to know it works. The rest is waste. The bible teaches against WASTE.
skyding8962 2 years ago
I think the Bible also teaches not to be a dumbass on purpose, to shoot a weapon one time and believe yourself proficient is foolhardy at best.
Chiliconnada 2 years ago 5
@Chiliconnada
You know what I mean. I don't mean literally one time, but not having 100 guns and going to practice 1000 times a year. This is utterly ridiculous. And your right it does preach against being a dumbass and thats called shooting tons of guns you don't need.
skyding8962 2 years ago
skyding,
I dont have 100 guns nor do I practice 1,000 times year. The training I do is to keep me proficient at my job, to protect others & family. I guess taking my responsibility seriously really bugs you. Or perhaps its cause I teach firearms classes for free? Or teach useful info here on yt? I dont know but you seem to have big problems & are misusing the bible in attacking me & my family.
Perhaps you need to go else where - to someone more you liking. I hope that works out for you.
;)
SafeArmsReview 2 years ago
@SafeArmsReview
No I don't have a problem with you. I just think its a waste of money to buy tons of guns and waste all that ammo. The money could be used for something actually productive. IMO
skyding8962 2 years ago
I don't have 'tons of guns' nor do I 'waste all that ammo'.
Ur claim of providing me & my family firearms to defend themselves, keeping proficient, & teaching others to do the same is a waste. I beg to differ - I teach firearms classes for free among other things, but u don't take that into consideration do u? Nope, u never even asked what I do outside of yt & the other 'productive' things my family & I do.
Sorry u feel this way but in light of ur attacks, I hope you do well elsewhere.
SafeArmsReview 2 years ago
BTW ur neglecting the fact if I do have to protect someone, that if I do not practice then that could mean the lives of those around me.
If you dont use it, you lose it.
I would hate to have the death of someone on my conscience because I was ignorant in thinking you only have to shoot a gun once & there is no need to stay proficient.
Ppl miss the target because they stressed & not proficient - sustainment training is important (at least to the military, law enforcement, etc).
SafeArmsReview 2 years ago
skyding said... "You only need one gun and shoot it once to know it works."
My time in the military, law enforcement and numerous training statistics from FBI, military & local law shows the exact opposite.
Training under stress conditions, replicating malfunctions and performing immediate actions drills and putting rounds on target is very important. Once proficient you need to continue to train to stay proficient.
BTW your ad hominem attacks are telling - I hope that works out for you.
hetgow 2 years ago 2
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@hetgow
Hes an experienced person in the military. He doesn't need anymore practice. Secondly he doesn't need 100 guns or whatever obnoxious numbers. Last I checked you only need one gun. But Go ahead, keep promoting senseless materialism for nothing. Having multiple guns and multiple practices serves no purpose.
skyding8962 2 years ago
sky your still wrong. I dont have 100 guns, I have enough for me & my family.
Your claim that training is not needed to say proficient is pure ignorance. I suppose the military, police, FBI, state troopers, swat & other law enforcement dont need to train anymore even despite all the stats & facts stating it is needed.
Sorry but your walking a thin line.
SafeArmsReview 2 years ago
You know skyding I'm going to help you out
Since you dont like what I do, how I train in my job or with my family, or how I provide for ppl in the local community, I'm gonna send you on your way.
Hopefully you will find someone more to your liking elsewhere.
Take care & God bless,
Steve
SafeArmsReview 2 years ago
You have proven my point-you know nothing-zip-about firearms and yet you presume to come and lecture an expert. You go ahead and buy ONE gun and shoot it ONCE. Then hope and pray you never encounter an enemy who is remotely proficient with his weapon. He will kill you.
We all owe our families a better level of security than to buy a weapon and take it out of the box to shoot once & then relegate it to the bedside drawer. What if that one gun malfunctions?
robertoray1277 2 years ago
@robertoray1277
If that one gun malfunctions then your dead anyways. Nice try Robert.
skyding8962 2 years ago
wow...
If that firearm malfunctions and your not proficient in clearing it thru sustained training, to continue the fight, you and your family might end up dead.
Sorry but your off on this sky.
SafeArmsReview 2 years ago
@skyding8962 It is obvious your a troll looking for confrontation on these blogs to get yourself off in some way. The rest of us are here to share in the constructive knowledge of others. Steve just happens to want to share his knowledge with others, for nothing in return, except maybe good conversation. If you find us wrong according to your standards, then just go some where else and start arguments with others of your mind set.
roughcutone2 2 years ago
Thanks rough but skyding has moved on
;)
SafeArmsReview 2 years ago
You booted him before we found out what the one magic gun for every situation is. Guess I'll keep collecting.
LordRuckus 2 years ago
Great stuff, impressive 357 sig, but where's the 357 magnum love? :)
boxant 2 years ago 3
very cool Brother!
axishans 2 years ago
Good job, Steve. Wireless mike works much better. Still have the wind in the background but you come through with no problem.
ctccsi 2 years ago 2
If shit ever htf I would want this guy on my side.
godspersoneljester 2 years ago 8
check out mrlockandload on youtube.
He's my choice..lol
eldogg4life 2 years ago