tesla roadster: CBS sunday morning

[Cloudy2Clear]

The volt uses gasoline AND 6,831 batteries to get 40 miles per charge??? They're STILL killing the electric car. Don't try to gloss over the truth. Effing MIC.

[ewigkase1]

@Cloudy2Clear i know the volt is fuck piece of shit

[Oneplanet1]

Running Cost free cars. Inetresting post a comment.

Thank you

[kayaker1491]

I've got two words for the General Morons and Tesla with their $100,000 car- HEMI HYBRID. You get great gas mileage and muscle. The best of both worlds baby.

[emforty2]

Garbage Motors is coming out with a "Dream" car the Volt

you keep "dreaming" it will come out if ever and guess what

it uses GASOLINE just like todays car so you carry both power source gas engine and electric motor lugging deadweight

[potentv8sonly]

u have to get the energy from the electric companies and they burn coal to produce energy.....

solar city, solar panels monuted on YOUR ROOF PRODUCING ENERGY TO SUPPLY UR HOUSE AND TO SUPPLY UR POWER TO THE TESLA< OR THE VOLT...price to fuel those cars with a solar city solar panels? $0!!!!

[cyberian2000]

i'd love to buy the volt. but if some other companies are making their own plug-in hybrid i'll buy from them (perhaps toyota) why? coz i remember how General Motors (General Morons for some) crushed 'BRAND NEW ELECTRIC VEHICLES'. if anyone else is interested wats the documentary "WHO KILLED THE ELECTRIC CAR?". we had electric cars in our hands and we fought to keep 'em but they chose to crush those eco/wallet friendly cars and came up with HUMMER. . . MORONS

[grandcarriage]

What I don't get...I had a friend with an ev1: 120 mi range (second gen batteries). She had it for 4+ years, loved it...It was taken and crushed, and now they are acting all proud over a car that only gets 40 mi range? They had better previously...what the f@ck? Reintroduce the Ev1 and people will knock down your door...you don't even have to upgrade it...just re-release it. Heck, I'd take the electric Ford Ranger that they also had on the road.

[Draven84]

$98K for a car performing as it does is about par for the course.

oh... and nice move by General Morons, destroying a whole series of electric cars. All for the oil dependence...

[tuco220]

Too bad it gets slower as the car loses battery charge.

[VerystrangeMaster]

@tuco220 Yes, but unlike this the internal combustion engines lack grunt if the aren't reved so It's not so bad, some things are better some are not.

[gonzaloxxx]

I WANT ONE!

[anthonycut]

My 2000 Ranger EV NiMH has been zero gasoline for 8 years...

[horneyvirus]

GM thinks that the volt is futuristic. LOL fucking morons.

[Odziz]

General Morons, hehehehe

[Draven84]

looks like a 90's Opel Tigra...

[needlove1982]

oops i meant GM's Car. The Telsa is Gorgerous!

[needlove1982]

The problem with this Car is it is so DAMN UGLY!! I would not buy it for this reason alone.

[sureshot649]

I think something people keep forgetting is that the $98K price tag is pretty much the only thing you'll pay over the entire life of the vehicle. The repair/engine-replacement stuff is built into the price of the vehicle, and no gas/oil change, so that $98K up front is about it. A regular car may cost less up front but you're still paying thousands in gas/maintenance each year. Over the life of the vehicle, for something that can out accelerate a Ferrari, it's a fucking steal..

[gandy74]

The Volt will only get 40 miles per charge then you have to use the gas engine. The Tesla has a range of over 200 miles on one charge!

[pabauza]

I cencerely hope this isn't a PR move by GM. BUILD THE VOLT or jolt or whatever you want to call it, just build it.

[hurley3000gt]

What if I just bought 6,831 of those lithium batteries in bulk (lowering the total if I just bought them singularly of course) and made my own car. I wonder if that'd be cheaper than spending $98,000.

I also, if I had the Tesla, would just park my car down the road from me at the local gas station and charge it there, then pick it up before the manager got in in the morning to save even more money. haha

[ewigkase1]

if you find a good place to buy those batteries in bulk let me know?

thanks for the comment.

[MooseOfReason]

Now Tesla's strategy of starting high-end makes sense. You really have to impress people with an electric car. Not goofy-looking, but can go long distances, and very quick. The Roadster has all of those.

[ewigkase1]

yes it has aha and ow factor!!!!!!!!!!!!! yes they have a great game plane for the electric car. cant wait until they make one I am able to afford.

[bags181]

: The volt will never see the light of day'. Mate we are going to be driving elec cars sooner or later alongside with other technologies, deal with it.

[allteeth]

I think you misunderstand my comment. I want EVs right now. Affordable and in great numbers. I was raised on GM as the son of a factory worker in MI, and I know for damn sure it won't be them making the strides needed to move forward with anything of worth.

[allteeth]

Lutz and all other domestic car companies are "absolutely" full of shit. The original EV1 had a 132mile range on lead/acid batteries. Using the new lithium ions that would almost double. A 40 mile range is the problem? The volt is just a ploy to draw attention from cars like the Tesla. Mark my words: The volt will never see the light of day. You are going to hear absurd excuses and push back after push back. The oil execs and lobbyist pay more to CEOs and politicians to not make it.

[diggingforgold]

GM wants to eventually sell the Volt at below $30,000. The EV1 cost GM $80,000 even with LA batteries. So yeah, it certainly is a challenge: Price and the unknown.

And BTW, several Volt mules (under old Malibu bodies) have seen the light of day, even on public roads. And the board has already given the Volt a green light. It's officially no longer a concept vehicle. It's a full-fledged production vehicle.

When the Volt is released in 2010/2011, I will come back this comment. Mark MY words...

[knissel]

mainstream media understands very little about the internet's

[Nichen]

Can someone please tell Bob Lutz to go and shove it up his own ass? What a big liar he is, telling us that "hybrids make no economic sense".

[MooseOfReason]

Lutz will be about three years too late with the Volt.

[diggingforgold]

Run the numbers.

Prius, 44MPG, $4/gal gas, $22,160 price, 160,000 miles. Car Price + Energy Cost = $36,705

Volt, 50MPG (genset), $4/gal gas, $0.10/kWh electricity, 80/30 battery/genset usage, $30,000 price, 160,000 miles. Car Price + Energy Cost = $35,120.

As gas prices continue to rise (and they will), the Volts lifetime cost will get better and better... EVEN compared to standard HEVs.

Let's just hope they can deliver when it comes to the $30,000 price tag.

[ewigkase1]

if you convert a Prius to a plug in hybrid you can get 100MPG. The Volt is nothing it is a joke. check out this battery being developed by Yi Chi of Stanford university. nano silicon lithium ion battery it is a great leap in battery technology.