@volound "how do you reconcile the biological phenonemon of atavisms with your worldview that is based on a creation myth that contradicts evolution (your creation myth which we know know to be empirically false)"
and I would like to ask you a question, what is more probable that we, and everything around us, the sky, the planets, the stars and even things at complex as the atom or smaller were created? or that it all came from absolute NOTHING?
and tell me what happens after we die, what happens to Hitler, what happens to Stalin what happens to anyone evil?
Do they just get away with it?
Tell me what is the purpose of you're existence right now?
@Hammy093 "and I would like to ask you a question, what is more probable that we, and everything around us, the sky, the planets, the stars and even things at complex as the atom or smaller were created? or that it all came from absolute NOTHING?"
physicists go with the latter, almost unanimously. the "ijma" is overwhelming.
the only universe that can come from nothing, is a universe that IS nothing. everything is just matter and anti-matter that has not yet annihilated.
@Hammy093 "and tell me what happens after we die, what happens to Hitler, what happens to Stalin what happens to anyone evil?"
nothing. when you die, your brain decomposes. the atoms and molecules that made up the instrument that was your body, returns to the ecosystem and feasted upon by flora and fauna.
what happens when i die if i go out and rape/kill hundreds, then i "reconvert" to islam?
what happens if an atheist saves hundreds of people from a fire then dies in the fire?
@Hammy093 "Tell me what is the purpose of you're existence right now?"
whatever i make for it.
i like humanity. i like life. i am a transhumanist. my purpose is to help humanity survive and accomplish things that are cosmically significant, like learning how the stars work that gave the atoms and molecules that make up all of the matter in the universe, including us.
what is your purpose? to be a drone that sates the restless desire for applause of your petty, vindictive, jealous god?
@ali75367 but we know now through modern biology that adam didnt exist.
the scientific concensus is that humans share a common ancestor with all other organisms on earth. there is not a credible biologist of the past 100 years who does not agree. adam is a myth.
and you dont KNOW, otherwise you would be able to show it. you cant. therefore, you dont know. neither do the christians, or jews, or hindus, or aztecs, or anyone. you have faith because you dont know.
@ahmed19225 investigated all miracle claims. none are valid. all are flawed or fallacious in one way or another. muslims arent muslims because of miracle claims. theyre muslims because of brainwashing from birth.
I would like to ask you to bring me exact evidence that we share a common ancestor with all other organisms on earth. Remember the theory of evolution is still just a THEORY, so it hasn't been proven yet, and you can ask this to any credible biologist in the past 100 years. So really you're basing you're ideas on FAITH aswell. Once you fill in the gaps of evolution e.g. the missing link, then come argue our evidence (which is the quran, try read it all).
"Remember evolution is still just a THEORY it still hasn't been proven, so I'm guessing you're kinda basing you're opinions by belief"
no. no. no. no. no.
evolution is an empirical fact. when scientists say "theory" they dont mean it as you mean it. open a dictionary and learn what a scientific theory is. "theory" of gravity is not an opinion.
"BUT you haven't answered my questions, because you don't have the answers. This is why I think some people are here to argue"
i did answer your questions.
you have not answered mine. you commit suicide by your own logic.
how do you reconcile the biological phenonemon of atavisms with your worldview that is based on a creation myth that contradicts evolution (your creation myth which we know know to be empirically false).
have you figured out what you think is behind evolution yet? or behind the universe?
and why are you still telling people islam would die if it wasn't for parents "brainwashing" their children and still ignoring the fact of islam being the fastest growing religion on earth (guinness book of records), or how 25% of american muslims are COVERTS
as for atavisms i already told you in human-monkey you have large teeth as a trait....what the heck is so fascinating about that?
"known for years. the laws of physics."
you are still living in ignorance. how can the laws of physics explain what caused the big bang to occur? nobody knows not even your hero dawkins...it always makes me lol when you claim you know these things.
@prototype00000 YOU have the genetic components in your genome required for making a TAIL. YOU, a "descendent of adam" have that.
if an alien species came to earth and wanted to learn how to make a tail like the prehensile ones we see on other primates, they could look at YOUR DNA and they WOULD KNOW HOW TO MAKE A TAIL.
HOW THE FUCK do you think that makes any fucking sense without evolution?
oh wow a tail...well that changes everything....lol
it makes simple sense i already told you, we are made by the same creator which would explain any similarities. now you have a measly couple of similarities, what about the uncountable differences you choose to ignore. this is so unbalanced....why are you unbalanced?
unfortunately you cannot understand a simple concept that being from one designer we would have similarities. its really simple.
islam is the most scientific religion on earth which is why you attack it so much, you realise what a threat it poses as it answers what you could not, where the universe came from
something you claim was die to the "laws of physics"...how can i take you seriously after that?
you need to remind yourself how you keep claiming you know things not a single scientists does to know your the original buffoon
like i said tails..wow what a big deal lol, thats proved everything for you...NOT!
not to mention you still cannot account for what is behind evolution. you claimed its not chance...nor is it through intellect (something which you clearly lack)...so please explain what is it as you claimed you knew?
now read your comment, read mine and tell me WHY you are so stubborn you cannot understand a concept of one creator using a tail? its so simple you are retarded. you can deny it hapenned but you cannot prove it, nor can you even come close as you cannot explain what is behind evolution
if you dispute tell me what is behind evolution...if you claim false dichotomy that means you DONT KNOW & remain clueless
@prototype00000 "now read your comment, read mine and tell me WHY you are so stubborn you cannot understand a concept of one creator using a tail?"
so by PURE COINCIDENCE he only put the genetic fragments for making tails in the organisms that scientists KNOW have evolved from ancestors with tails (humans included)? and left all the other ones without tails? WHY?????
*facepalm*.
i really dont know with you any more. i might as well just laugh at you.
coincidence? you want to talk COINCIDENCE??? ROFL YOU THE ATHEIST WANT TO TALK COINCIDENCE!!???
you tell me about coincidence...how did this chaotic big bang resulted in all this.......a coincidence?
you are in no position to talk about ignoring coincidences...you GRASP this measly little point as if it saved you but IGNORE everything else as you are an ILLOGICAL ATHEIST!
The calculations of British mathematician Roger Penrose show that the probability of universe conducive to life occurring by chance/COINCIDENCE is 1 chance in the below
@prototype00000 yeah go ahead and change the subject. its what you do best. surely at some level you have to realise what you are doing? or do you really have no shame, no cognitive dissonance?
i would never attempt to change the subject like you have just done. i actually care about the truth.
dont you? if you did, you would explain why god has decided to trick us with all these mountains of evidence for evolution, or you would just admit that you have no answer.
its not about changing the subject lol, its about putting in perspective your hypocrisy...and this has exposed your illogical hypocrisy clearly
i have addressed your measly tail many times...you "laughed" at me for saying its a coincidence so i showed you why the coincidence joke is on you...now you see how stupid you look so are playing the victim lol....poor you!
@prototype00000 i asked you in my very first comment to you to explain atavisms.
still no explanation.
ill make it even clearer for you so that you have no excuse.
why do all mammals (primates, and therefore humans included) have the vestigial genetic components required for making a tail, even the mammals for which tails dont manifest?
the barbary macaque doesnt have a tail, nor do humans. why did "god design us" with useless junk dna?
i did explain it numerous times how it shows we have a common designer not a common ancestor. its only one measly point it means nothing your making a mountain out of a molehill.
if it was because we have a common designer, all animals would have the same vestigial DNA and it would NOT be determined by their heritage (which is clearly the case to anyone who has any biology education). we can basically look at the tree of life and PREDICT which species will have which vestigial organs, just as we can PREDICT how far down the geologic column we can expect to find different extinct species.
ill tell you what is unsatisfactory, the rotton junk DNA argument put forward by darwinians
the truth is that it is the ignorance of scientists who are claiming something is junk when in reality they have not figured out what its there for. its a shame this is classed as evidence
@prototype00000 "the truth is that it is the ignorance of scientists who are claiming something is junk when in reality they have not figured out what its there for. its a shame this is classed as evidence"
its for making a tail. NO TAIL MANIFESTS.
how dont you get this??
ive explained this to you 20+ times now, you must be the thickest fuck ive ever encountered on the internet.
tinyurl . com /junkdnaisjunk
youre a moron. the only shame is there are people around that think like you.
stop using my own lines on me every time you get shamed its lame, i told you many times you are the most ignorant stubborn git i have met, i have a list of examples i can remind you of. there will never be another moron who claims he knows an answer whilst simultaneously claiming false dichotomy...not to mention your lame attempt in MISLEADING on atavisms the first time, your awful DVD & other anologies, your claim to KNOW the origin of the universe...your a universal joke
yes but my analogy on the DVD worked (which is why you tried to carry on using it bu failed), every single one you put forth failed you, the only reason i bring these things up is as you act as if you are some big shot when cleary your logic is EMBARRASSINGLY poor
you claim there is no behind evolution? then how can there be an "engine"..we went through this...you denied chance & intent but couldnt explain it. you keep dreaming atavisms saves you lol.
@prototype00000 "you claim there is no behind evolution? then how can there be an "engine"..we went through this...you denied chance & intent but couldnt explain it. "
*facepalm*
its called a metaphor. your inability to distinguish between figures of speech and formal jargon is embarrassing. i did explain it. i explained everything. so did all the professors of biology that i referred you to.
whats more likely... nobel prize winning professors are ALL WRONG, or you are?
@prototype00000 "it is no metaphor you fool, what could possiby be behind evolution if its not
1.random
2.intent
there is no other LOGICAL explanation, this is the CORE of evolution and you cannot explain it so COWER like a COWARD behind false dichotomy"
already explained. the laws of physics orchestrate everything. when a rock falls. it is not random OR intent. your model fails because "random or intent" cannot account for a simple rock falling due to gravity.
i told you twenty times the tail is such a small issue you compare this to the UNIVERSE? and what you couldnt explain is behind your evolution engine?
if you wanted to prove you are related to mentally retarded chimps you are doing a good job acting so stupid, but unfortunately you are just a retarded human being
@prototype00000 "you couldnt explain is behind your evolution engine?"
THE LAWS OF PHYSICS ORCHESTRATE EVERYTHING WE OBSERVE.
there is no "behind", you idiot. stop using such stupid words. say what you ACTUALLY mean so i can explain clearly and cogently why its absolute bollocks.
youre a moron. a complete and utter moron.
and you STILL havent responded to my last refutation of your bullshit regarding atavisms.
see from the first moment i spoke to you, you falsley portrayed you were some big shot, insulted me etc and the more we spoke the more embarrassing it got for you...and now your still at it
get this through your head...your not a thinker, you never have been and never will be. your an idiot who reads things & types them here...it doesnt take brains. truth is your actually thicker then all atheists i have spoken to FACT!
you have demonstrated an inability to learn simple concepts, in every field. you cannot call anyone stupid, really, you cant. hypocrisy isnt a strong enough word.
from an objective standpoint, you have demonstrated massive quantities of ignorance and repeated failures to correct ignorance despite repeated panderings towards you.
you are everything that is wrong with humanity today.
ive answered all of your questions to an objectively reasonable and cogent standard and you have answered none of mine.
i ask you to account for atavisms (because you would be the first muslim of all time to manage it), and you give me a bullshit excuse and actually think you have pulled it off.
you are a joke. ive linked all of your comments to friends in skype and they laugh at you in unison for reasons you cannot conceive of. its sad.
im talking to you here if you want to answer the question go ahead and type if your so ready.
all you do is insult, you have nothing else, you attempt to portray that if someone rejects your views they reject science, this is why i am quoting scientefic links so you cannot whine & complain like a big baby.
you have been asked the question many times....any time your ready
@prototype00000 its not that my vocabulary or library of ideas is restricted that i would rather this was done on skype. i would rather do it on skype as real-time mediums like skype are more conducive to a productive discussion than comment sections of youtube.
so many times ive let you get away with saying nonsense because you can pile up 10 different bullshit points and then unleash them all at once and i have to pick one.
i have not even piled up 10 points, i only have the basic questions which you never ever answer. the rest are your points being addressed such as junk/vestigial & coincidences
stop telling me "you are unable to understand"...i fully understand WHAT you are saying i am telling you its wrong. there is a huge difference between me and someone who doesnt understand
you are so delusional you actually think if someone doesnt agree with you they oppose science...thats why i showed you how stupid you are for being an atheist and quoted you a mathematician...or forced you to admit about junk DNA changing & sourced them...science has failed you
i know penrose is an atheist which is reason i quoted him to you, he says how he thinks the universe has a deep purpose and isnt here by chance. so he is cannot deny the blatant information that this is no fluke & it was made to occur as it is...yet he denies creation while its clearly the only possible explanation of intent which shows how clueless even the top atheists are
you have zero credibility to that claim, it makes no logical sense and when i lay the question out to you and ask you to explain you cannot.
how do the laws of physics explain how the first cell/a single protein developed? they do not. neither do they explain what caused the big bang to come together and "bang"..where and why. you have no credibility so all you have are insults and hide behind scientific processes
"OBVIOUSLY we are going to find uses for some dna that was previously considered to be junk"
so what hapenned to the fact? there is no fact and you admitted it yourself (only as you were forced to when i showed you the link, otherwise you would deny that too)
"Essential Cell Division "Zipper" Anchors To So-Called Junk DNA"
go read the science daily article
they are still figuring things out, you are an idiot for claiming you know it all, and a bigger idiot to think a measly tail solves your problem of being the most illogical git in history
"Essential Cell Division "Zipper" Anchors To So-Called Junk DNA"
go read the science daily article"
OBVIOUSLY we are going to find uses for some dna that was previously considered to be junk. OBVIOUSLY.
"They detest the idea of junk DNA — that the gods would scatter wasteful garbage throughout our precious genome by intent was unthinkable, so any hint that it might actually do something useful is enthusiastically siezed upon as evidence of purposeful design."
yes OBVIOUSLY i am you idiot that is the whole point...tomorrow something else that was deemed junk will be altered to. this is a joke & your as brainwashed by DARWINISM as a christian the bible. you are no different at all. noble prize is a select CLUB it doesnt mean anything...you never knew that?
also to claim if their OPINION is correct makes it FACT then you are a bigger moron then i thought (you never cease to amaze me). this is why you are the one BRAINWASHED by darwinism!
for example darwin claimed the appendix was an organ that had become vestigial during the evolutionary process, but researchers from duke arizona say it has a function in relation to bacteria
Dr. William Parker, a Duke University professor of surgical sciences and the research head, stated that “It is now time to correct the information in the text books. The appendix is still referred to as a ‘vestigial organ’ in many biology books.”
@volound But my friend after 9/11 the number of Americans converting to Islam tripled. I don't think they've been brainwashed. Btw what is you're definition of being brainwashed into becoming muslim/christian/etc?
Remember evolution is still just a THEORY it still hasn't been proven, so I'm guessing you're kinda basing you're opinions on belief.
BUT you haven't answered my questions (they're simple), because you don't have the answers. This is why I think some people are here to argue
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@volound "how do you reconcile the biological phenonemon of atavisms with your worldview that is based on a creation myth that contradicts evolution (your creation myth which we know know to be empirically false)"
I dunno, but once I find out I'll try inbox you.
Hammy093 4 months ago
@volound
Thank you I just wanted to know you're opinions.
May God guide you to the truth.
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Hammy093 4 months ago
and I would like to ask you a question, what is more probable that we, and everything around us, the sky, the planets, the stars and even things at complex as the atom or smaller were created? or that it all came from absolute NOTHING?
and tell me what happens after we die, what happens to Hitler, what happens to Stalin what happens to anyone evil?
Do they just get away with it?
Tell me what is the purpose of you're existence right now?
thanks and peace
Hammy093 4 months ago
@Hammy093 "and I would like to ask you a question, what is more probable that we, and everything around us, the sky, the planets, the stars and even things at complex as the atom or smaller were created? or that it all came from absolute NOTHING?"
physicists go with the latter, almost unanimously. the "ijma" is overwhelming.
the only universe that can come from nothing, is a universe that IS nothing. everything is just matter and anti-matter that has not yet annihilated.
/watch?v=7ImvlS8PLIo
volound 4 months ago
@Hammy093 "and tell me what happens after we die, what happens to Hitler, what happens to Stalin what happens to anyone evil?"
nothing. when you die, your brain decomposes. the atoms and molecules that made up the instrument that was your body, returns to the ecosystem and feasted upon by flora and fauna.
what happens when i die if i go out and rape/kill hundreds, then i "reconvert" to islam?
what happens if an atheist saves hundreds of people from a fire then dies in the fire?
volound 4 months ago
@Hammy093 "Tell me what is the purpose of you're existence right now?"
whatever i make for it.
i like humanity. i like life. i am a transhumanist. my purpose is to help humanity survive and accomplish things that are cosmically significant, like learning how the stars work that gave the atoms and molecules that make up all of the matter in the universe, including us.
what is your purpose? to be a drone that sates the restless desire for applause of your petty, vindictive, jealous god?
volound 4 months ago
Wa alaykum asalam wa rahmatullahi wabarakatu:)
newyorkrgrl 11 months ago
so what is imaan? faith? belief without evidence? blind trust?
thats easy, all you have to do is not care about whether or not it is true.
volound 1 year ago
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ali75367 6 months ago
@ali75367 but we know now through modern biology that adam didnt exist.
the scientific concensus is that humans share a common ancestor with all other organisms on earth. there is not a credible biologist of the past 100 years who does not agree. adam is a myth.
and you dont KNOW, otherwise you would be able to show it. you cant. therefore, you dont know. neither do the christians, or jews, or hindus, or aztecs, or anyone. you have faith because you dont know.
volound 6 months ago
@volound Thats alright for us, not knowing, we don't. That is called faith. Only Allah knows, for he is the knower of the seen and the unseen.
Thank you for reminding us.
May Allah guide you.
DoctorWest 5 months ago
@DoctorWest you have not demonstrated that allah exists. and you cant, because you dont know he exists. you have faith.
just like the christians, and jews, and hindus, and jains, and pastafarians, and zoroastrians, and aztecs.
when there is evidence, nobody speaks of faith.
volound 5 months ago
@volound there is evidence , look at the miracles in the quran.
ahmed19225 4 months ago
@ahmed19225 investigated all miracle claims. none are valid. all are flawed or fallacious in one way or another. muslims arent muslims because of miracle claims. theyre muslims because of brainwashing from birth.
volound 4 months ago
@volound peace be upon you.
I would like to ask you to bring me exact evidence that we share a common ancestor with all other organisms on earth. Remember the theory of evolution is still just a THEORY, so it hasn't been proven yet, and you can ask this to any credible biologist in the past 100 years. So really you're basing you're ideas on FAITH aswell. Once you fill in the gaps of evolution e.g. the missing link, then come argue our evidence (which is the quran, try read it all).
Hammy093 4 months ago
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Hammy093 4 months ago
@volound These are the questions we ask ourselves, because we're HUMAN not robots being brainwashed.
Hammy093 4 months ago
@Hammy093 actually, if muslims didnt brainwash their children, islam would die. it would die like christianity is dying.
and i seriously doubt you have asked yourself any questions.
heres a good one to get you started: "are the biological phenomenon of atavisms compatible with an islamic, qur'an based worldview?"
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Hammy093 4 months ago
@Hammy093 "But my friend after 9/11 the number of Americans converting to Islam tripled."
thats because of stupid people that didnt know about it before.
"Btw what is you're definition of being brainwashed into becoming muslim/christian/etc?"
introducing them to the idea before the age of reason.
"You haven't answered my questions, because you don't have the answers"
i didnt know you asked me any questions. you posted them in a different comment. i can answer them all, and will.
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Hammy093 4 months ago
@Hammy093 "Respond to this video... But my friend after 9/11 the number of Americans converting to Islam tripled."
and? argumentum ad populum. appeal to popularity. logical fallacy. I don't think they've been brainwashed.
you wouldnt. but christian children are brainwashed. right?
Btw what is you're definition of being brainwashed into becoming muslim/christian/etc?
introducing the idea to the person before the age of reason. religions do this because children are mentally weak.
volound 4 months ago
@Hammy093
"Remember evolution is still just a THEORY it still hasn't been proven, so I'm guessing you're kinda basing you're opinions by belief"
no. no. no. no. no.
evolution is an empirical fact. when scientists say "theory" they dont mean it as you mean it. open a dictionary and learn what a scientific theory is. "theory" of gravity is not an opinion.
volound 4 months ago
@Hammy093
"BUT you haven't answered my questions, because you don't have the answers. This is why I think some people are here to argue"
i did answer your questions.
you have not answered mine. you commit suicide by your own logic.
how do you reconcile the biological phenonemon of atavisms with your worldview that is based on a creation myth that contradicts evolution (your creation myth which we know know to be empirically false).
volound 4 months ago
@volound
have you figured out what you think is behind evolution yet? or behind the universe?
and why are you still telling people islam would die if it wasn't for parents "brainwashing" their children and still ignoring the fact of islam being the fastest growing religion on earth (guinness book of records), or how 25% of american muslims are COVERTS
prototype00000 4 months ago
@prototype00000 "have you figured out what you think is behind evolution yet? or behind the universe?"
known for years. the laws of physics.
"and why are you still telling people islam would die if it wasn't for parents "brainwashing" their children "
because its true.
"and still ignoring the fact of islam being the fastest growing religion on earth (guinness book of records),"
fastest growing religious POSITION is ATHEISM.
atheism is growing FASTER than islam.
volound 4 months ago
@prototype00000 find me a muslim that understands basic biology. i want to know how muslims can reconcile atavisms with their creation myth.
volound 4 months ago
@volound
as for atavisms i already told you in human-monkey you have large teeth as a trait....what the heck is so fascinating about that?
"known for years. the laws of physics."
you are still living in ignorance. how can the laws of physics explain what caused the big bang to occur? nobody knows not even your hero dawkins...it always makes me lol when you claim you know these things.
prototype00000 4 months ago
@prototype00000 YOU have the genetic components in your genome required for making a TAIL. YOU, a "descendent of adam" have that.
if an alien species came to earth and wanted to learn how to make a tail like the prehensile ones we see on other primates, they could look at YOUR DNA and they WOULD KNOW HOW TO MAKE A TAIL.
HOW THE FUCK do you think that makes any fucking sense without evolution?
volound 4 months ago
@volound
oh wow a tail...well that changes everything....lol
it makes simple sense i already told you, we are made by the same creator which would explain any similarities. now you have a measly couple of similarities, what about the uncountable differences you choose to ignore. this is so unbalanced....why are you unbalanced?
prototype00000 4 months ago
@prototype00000 what a stupid comment. you didnt address anything i said. no wonder you believe in god.
as long as all muslims are as anti-scientific and unthinking as you, islam is doomed.
volound 4 months ago
@volound
unfortunately you cannot understand a simple concept that being from one designer we would have similarities. its really simple.
islam is the most scientific religion on earth which is why you attack it so much, you realise what a threat it poses as it answers what you could not, where the universe came from
something you claim was die to the "laws of physics"...how can i take you seriously after that?
prototype00000 4 months ago
@prototype00000 "unfortunately you cannot understand a simple concept that being from one designer we would have similarities. its really simple."
no. it isnt.
we have vestigial tails. we dont have vestigial wings.
whales have vestigial legs. they dont have vestigial feathers.
chickens have vestigial teeth. they dont have vestigial compound eyes.
read your comment again, then read mine. then read yours again. now wonder to yourself why i think youre such an imbecile.
volound 4 months ago
@volound
you need to remind yourself how you keep claiming you know things not a single scientists does to know your the original buffoon
like i said tails..wow what a big deal lol, thats proved everything for you...NOT!
not to mention you still cannot account for what is behind evolution. you claimed its not chance...nor is it through intellect (something which you clearly lack)...so please explain what is it as you claimed you knew?
the core of your belief is unexplainable
prototype00000 4 months ago
@volound
now read your comment, read mine and tell me WHY you are so stubborn you cannot understand a concept of one creator using a tail? its so simple you are retarded. you can deny it hapenned but you cannot prove it, nor can you even come close as you cannot explain what is behind evolution
if you dispute tell me what is behind evolution...if you claim false dichotomy that means you DONT KNOW & remain clueless
prototype00000 4 months ago
@prototype00000 "now read your comment, read mine and tell me WHY you are so stubborn you cannot understand a concept of one creator using a tail?"
so by PURE COINCIDENCE he only put the genetic fragments for making tails in the organisms that scientists KNOW have evolved from ancestors with tails (humans included)? and left all the other ones without tails? WHY?????
*facepalm*.
i really dont know with you any more. i might as well just laugh at you.
volound 4 months ago
@volound
coincidence? you want to talk COINCIDENCE??? ROFL YOU THE ATHEIST WANT TO TALK COINCIDENCE!!???
you tell me about coincidence...how did this chaotic big bang resulted in all this.......a coincidence?
you are in no position to talk about ignoring coincidences...you GRASP this measly little point as if it saved you but IGNORE everything else as you are an ILLOGICAL ATHEIST!
prototype00000 4 months ago
@volound
The calculations of British mathematician Roger Penrose show that the probability of universe conducive to life occurring by chance/COINCIDENCE is 1 chance in the below
10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
COINCIDENCES ROFL!
prototype00000 4 months ago
@prototype00000 yeah go ahead and change the subject. its what you do best. surely at some level you have to realise what you are doing? or do you really have no shame, no cognitive dissonance?
i would never attempt to change the subject like you have just done. i actually care about the truth.
dont you? if you did, you would explain why god has decided to trick us with all these mountains of evidence for evolution, or you would just admit that you have no answer.
you do neither. pathetic.
volound 4 months ago
@volound
its not about changing the subject lol, its about putting in perspective your hypocrisy...and this has exposed your illogical hypocrisy clearly
i have addressed your measly tail many times...you "laughed" at me for saying its a coincidence so i showed you why the coincidence joke is on you...now you see how stupid you look so are playing the victim lol....poor you!
prototype00000 4 months ago
@volound
by the way the very first question i asked you is what is behind the universe so technically i have never changed the subject :)
prototype00000 4 months ago
@prototype00000 i asked you in my very first comment to you to explain atavisms.
still no explanation.
ill make it even clearer for you so that you have no excuse.
why do all mammals (primates, and therefore humans included) have the vestigial genetic components required for making a tail, even the mammals for which tails dont manifest?
the barbary macaque doesnt have a tail, nor do humans. why did "god design us" with useless junk dna?
now is your chance. answer please.
volound 4 months ago
@volound
i did explain it numerous times how it shows we have a common designer not a common ancestor. its only one measly point it means nothing your making a mountain out of a molehill.
prototype00000 4 months ago
@prototype00000 you didnt explain it at all.
if it was because we have a common designer, all animals would have the same vestigial DNA and it would NOT be determined by their heritage (which is clearly the case to anyone who has any biology education). we can basically look at the tree of life and PREDICT which species will have which vestigial organs, just as we can PREDICT how far down the geologic column we can expect to find different extinct species.
your "explanation" is unsatisfactory.
volound 4 months ago
@volound
ill tell you what is unsatisfactory, the rotton junk DNA argument put forward by darwinians
the truth is that it is the ignorance of scientists who are claiming something is junk when in reality they have not figured out what its there for. its a shame this is classed as evidence
prototype00000 4 months ago
@prototype00000 "the truth is that it is the ignorance of scientists who are claiming something is junk when in reality they have not figured out what its there for. its a shame this is classed as evidence"
its for making a tail. NO TAIL MANIFESTS.
how dont you get this??
ive explained this to you 20+ times now, you must be the thickest fuck ive ever encountered on the internet.
tinyurl . com /junkdnaisjunk
youre a moron. the only shame is there are people around that think like you.
volound 4 months ago
@volound
stop using my own lines on me every time you get shamed its lame, i told you many times you are the most ignorant stubborn git i have met, i have a list of examples i can remind you of. there will never be another moron who claims he knows an answer whilst simultaneously claiming false dichotomy...not to mention your lame attempt in MISLEADING on atavisms the first time, your awful DVD & other anologies, your claim to KNOW the origin of the universe...your a universal joke
prototype00000 4 months ago
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@prototype00000 "stop using my own lines on me every time you get shamed its lame"
what do you mean "my own lines". you are illiterate. why would i want to use anything of yours?
also, who uses "lame". seriously? do you live in the UK or not?
"not to mention your lame attempt in MISLEADING on atavisms the first time"
which you STILL cannot account for, not demonstrate an understanding of, AT ALL.
volound 4 months ago
@prototype00000 "your awful DVD & other anologies"
you were the one that started talking about fucking DVDs, imbecile. not me.
"your claim to KNOW the origin of the universe"
i dont claim to know anything that science hasnt discovered. youre deliberately strawmanning because you cant do anything else.
"your a universal joke"
and you STILL FUCKING DONT KNOW HOW TO SPELL "YOURE".
my fucking head hurts at your fail. holy shit youre a thick cunt.
volound 4 months ago
@volound
yes but my analogy on the DVD worked (which is why you tried to carry on using it bu failed), every single one you put forth failed you, the only reason i bring these things up is as you act as if you are some big shot when cleary your logic is EMBARRASSINGLY poor
you claim there is no behind evolution? then how can there be an "engine"..we went through this...you denied chance & intent but couldnt explain it. you keep dreaming atavisms saves you lol.
prototype00000 4 months ago
@prototype00000 "you claim there is no behind evolution? then how can there be an "engine"..we went through this...you denied chance & intent but couldnt explain it. "
*facepalm*
its called a metaphor. your inability to distinguish between figures of speech and formal jargon is embarrassing. i did explain it. i explained everything. so did all the professors of biology that i referred you to.
whats more likely... nobel prize winning professors are ALL WRONG, or you are?
hmm.
volound 4 months ago
@volound
it is no metaphor you fool, what could possiby be behind evolution if its not
1.random
2.intent
there is no other LOGICAL explanation, this is the CORE of evolution and you cannot explain it so COWER like a COWARD behind false dichotomy
stop talking down to people you are in no position, you should learn some manners
prototype00000 4 months ago
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@prototype00000 "it is no metaphor you fool, what could possiby be behind evolution if its not
1.random
2.intent
there is no other LOGICAL explanation, this is the CORE of evolution and you cannot explain it so COWER like a COWARD behind false dichotomy"
already explained. the laws of physics orchestrate everything. when a rock falls. it is not random OR intent. your model fails because "random or intent" cannot account for a simple rock falling due to gravity.
youre a moron.
volound 4 months ago
@volound
i told you twenty times the tail is such a small issue you compare this to the UNIVERSE? and what you couldnt explain is behind your evolution engine?
if you wanted to prove you are related to mentally retarded chimps you are doing a good job acting so stupid, but unfortunately you are just a retarded human being
prototype00000 4 months ago
@prototype00000 "you couldnt explain is behind your evolution engine?"
THE LAWS OF PHYSICS ORCHESTRATE EVERYTHING WE OBSERVE.
there is no "behind", you idiot. stop using such stupid words. say what you ACTUALLY mean so i can explain clearly and cogently why its absolute bollocks.
youre a moron. a complete and utter moron.
and you STILL havent responded to my last refutation of your bullshit regarding atavisms.
volound 4 months ago
@volound
see from the first moment i spoke to you, you falsley portrayed you were some big shot, insulted me etc and the more we spoke the more embarrassing it got for you...and now your still at it
get this through your head...your not a thinker, you never have been and never will be. your an idiot who reads things & types them here...it doesnt take brains. truth is your actually thicker then all atheists i have spoken to FACT!
prototype00000 4 months ago
@prototype00000 "and now your still at it"
youre*
you have demonstrated an inability to learn simple concepts, in every field. you cannot call anyone stupid, really, you cant. hypocrisy isnt a strong enough word.
from an objective standpoint, you have demonstrated massive quantities of ignorance and repeated failures to correct ignorance despite repeated panderings towards you.
you are everything that is wrong with humanity today.
volound 4 months ago
@volound
spell/grammer is all you have left, everyone knows on YT this is the losers argument when hes stuffed...YOUR stuffed!
prototype00000 4 months ago
@prototype00000 this is like talking to a child.
ive answered all of your questions to an objectively reasonable and cogent standard and you have answered none of mine.
i ask you to account for atavisms (because you would be the first muslim of all time to manage it), and you give me a bullshit excuse and actually think you have pulled it off.
you are a joke. ive linked all of your comments to friends in skype and they laugh at you in unison for reasons you cannot conceive of. its sad.
volound 4 months ago
@volound
you havent answered anything lol, you are either a mass liar or delusional!
when did you answer what is behind evolution? you ONLY ever claimed false dichotomy to COWER like a wimp
1.is it random
2. is it chance
if its neither then TELL ME WHAT IT IS???
you have been asked many times and have failed every single time
prototype00000 4 months ago
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@prototype00000 a rock falls and hits the ground. it stops. "1.is it random
2. is it chance
if its neither then TELL ME WHAT IT IS???"
go. demonstrate your model.
volound 4 months ago
@prototype00000 if you want to continue this, add me on skype
my username is conor147cfc
im tired of not being able to reprimand you for your bullshit in real time.
volound 4 months ago
@volound
you still never answered the question......link that to your boys at skype lol
prototype00000 4 months ago
@prototype00000 any time youre ready.
volound 4 months ago
@volound
im talking to you here if you want to answer the question go ahead and type if your so ready.
all you do is insult, you have nothing else, you attempt to portray that if someone rejects your views they reject science, this is why i am quoting scientefic links so you cannot whine & complain like a big baby.
you have been asked the question many times....any time your ready
prototype00000 4 months ago
@prototype00000 if youre not up for it, fine. doesnt bother me. i know plenty of people that are.
if you ever change your mind, or come up with an argument that isnt embarrassingly weak, add me and ill be willing to listen.
volound 4 months ago
@volound
up for what? what do you think would happen on there? what could you possibly have to say there which you cannot say here?
prototype00000 4 months ago
@prototype00000 its not that my vocabulary or library of ideas is restricted that i would rather this was done on skype. i would rather do it on skype as real-time mediums like skype are more conducive to a productive discussion than comment sections of youtube.
so many times ive let you get away with saying nonsense because you can pile up 10 different bullshit points and then unleash them all at once and i have to pick one.
cant be bothered with that any more.
volound 4 months ago
@volound
i have not even piled up 10 points, i only have the basic questions which you never ever answer. the rest are your points being addressed such as junk/vestigial & coincidences
prototype00000 4 months ago
@volound
stop telling me "you are unable to understand"...i fully understand WHAT you are saying i am telling you its wrong. there is a huge difference between me and someone who doesnt understand
you are so delusional you actually think if someone doesnt agree with you they oppose science...thats why i showed you how stupid you are for being an atheist and quoted you a mathematician...or forced you to admit about junk DNA changing & sourced them...science has failed you
prototype00000 4 months ago
@prototype00000 a mathematician... who is an atheist.
*facepalm*
volound 4 months ago
@volound
i know penrose is an atheist which is reason i quoted him to you, he says how he thinks the universe has a deep purpose and isnt here by chance. so he is cannot deny the blatant information that this is no fluke & it was made to occur as it is...yet he denies creation while its clearly the only possible explanation of intent which shows how clueless even the top atheists are
prototype00000 4 months ago
@volound
look how stupid you are
"there is no "behind", you idiot"
you have zero credibility to that claim, it makes no logical sense and when i lay the question out to you and ask you to explain you cannot.
how do the laws of physics explain how the first cell/a single protein developed? they do not. neither do they explain what caused the big bang to come together and "bang"..where and why. you have no credibility so all you have are insults and hide behind scientific processes
prototype00000 4 months ago
@prototype00000 like ive said. im not continuing this here. if you want me to respond to something, add me on skype and post it there.
volound 4 months ago
@volound
this format suits me as im not sitting in a dark corner of a room so this way when i can be bothered i respond
prototype00000 4 months ago
@prototype00000 dont know what that means, but fine.
volound 4 months ago
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@volound
you admitted evolutionists get it wrong
"OBVIOUSLY we are going to find uses for some dna that was previously considered to be junk"
so what hapenned to the fact? there is no fact and you admitted it yourself (only as you were forced to when i showed you the link, otherwise you would deny that too)
prototype00000 4 months ago
@volound
youve linked me to your friends at skype? lol you dont even know me what does it matter to me? how sad and pathetic are you?
why dont you tell them about how you claimed you knew what no human being knew....the origin of the universe
prototype00000 4 months ago
@prototype00000 im finished here. if you are serious and want to show me that im wrong properly, add me on skype.
you dont even have to talk. just type in real time instead of spamming comments that contain 10 different wrong things at once.
volound 4 months ago
@volound
google
"Essential Cell Division "Zipper" Anchors To So-Called Junk DNA"
go read the science daily article
they are still figuring things out, you are an idiot for claiming you know it all, and a bigger idiot to think a measly tail solves your problem of being the most illogical git in history
prototype00000 4 months ago
@prototype00000 "google
"Essential Cell Division "Zipper" Anchors To So-Called Junk DNA"
go read the science daily article"
OBVIOUSLY we are going to find uses for some dna that was previously considered to be junk. OBVIOUSLY.
"They detest the idea of junk DNA — that the gods would scatter wasteful garbage throughout our precious genome by intent was unthinkable, so any hint that it might actually do something useful is enthusiastically siezed upon as evidence of purposeful design."
volound 4 months ago
@volound
yes OBVIOUSLY i am you idiot that is the whole point...tomorrow something else that was deemed junk will be altered to. this is a joke & your as brainwashed by DARWINISM as a christian the bible. you are no different at all. noble prize is a select CLUB it doesnt mean anything...you never knew that?
also to claim if their OPINION is correct makes it FACT then you are a bigger moron then i thought (you never cease to amaze me). this is why you are the one BRAINWASHED by darwinism!
prototype00000 4 months ago
@volound
for example darwin claimed the appendix was an organ that had become vestigial during the evolutionary process, but researchers from duke arizona say it has a function in relation to bacteria
Dr. William Parker, a Duke University professor of surgical sciences and the research head, stated that “It is now time to correct the information in the text books. The appendix is still referred to as a ‘vestigial organ’ in many biology books.”
but darwinians remain stubborn
prototype00000 4 months ago
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@volound But my friend after 9/11 the number of Americans converting to Islam tripled. I don't think they've been brainwashed. Btw what is you're definition of being brainwashed into becoming muslim/christian/etc?
Remember evolution is still just a THEORY it still hasn't been proven, so I'm guessing you're kinda basing you're opinions on belief.
BUT you haven't answered my questions (they're simple), because you don't have the answers. This is why I think some people are here to argue
Hammy093 4 months ago
@DoctorWest LOL !!! its not scientifically proven , dont listen to anyone on youtube unless you go check it out yourself
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