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  • MY HUSBAND IS SAYING THE VERY EXACT THING ABOUT AN ELECTRIC BASS. IT RUINED A TALENTED GREATEST BANJO PLAYER'S WHOLE SONG. :(:(

  • Hah, the fiddle player must've learned the wrong way round, impressive. Oh yeah and that banjo playing is something else!

  • *****Hence the reason I want a banjo for Christmas*****

  • Mid or late 80s I believe, and he is still one of the greatest!! Listen to the backup too......

  • Best Bluegrass Banjo Player that EVER lived.

  • @capitalismforme Definitely in the top amongst Earl Scruggs and Lester Flatt

  • they all need a hair cut badly

  • 1'40 HE MADE A FACE !!1

    Great great tune.

  • He calls Crowe the finest banjo picker in the U.S. but cannot introduce him without mentioning the greatest of them all: Earl Scruggs!

  • @pegcage & md65000-I'm with you all the way about TDC-1. He reminds of the old Coke commercial in which Bill Cosby asks, "Why are these people trying to compare themselves to Coke?"

  • Not to take anything away from J.D. but I think it's safe to say that when this was filmed in the late 70s or early 80s Earl Scruggs was still the best banjo picker in the United States.

  • he looks so bored... :{l

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  • Wow... JD is in top form on this one. Here illustrated in a nutshell is the most basic reality of bluegrass banjo. What counts, and sets apart the aces from all others is clarity, tone, and rhythm. The critical factor is never the selection of notes played, but rather the WAY they are played. Additional complexity can never make up for a lack of the type of attack that JD has.

  • awesome track it makes me bounce everywhere

    muche repesct from france

  • Brilliant!!

  • gordon bennett

    

  • I think Earl is the best, not J.D. I'm just throwin my opinion out there, because I'm a die hard Flatt and Scruggs fan.

  • who the hell are the 5 people that didnt like this? yee haa thanks for posting

  • I agree the bass should not be electric.

  • i agree the bass should not be electric

  • that banjo is a granada flathead from the thirties

  • yeeeehaaa!!!

  • whos doin the talkn at the beginning?

  • @owsleyforkmus

    I think it's Tony Rice, the guitar whiz.  But I'm not 100% certain.

  • @written12 no i dont think its him. im not sure about that though

  • @owsleyforkmusic

    After typing in "JD Crowe with Tony Rice" and bringing up a couple of videos on Youtube, I tend to agree with you. The young Tony Rice looks different than this fellow.

  • @written12 That's not Tony Rice. Don't know who this guy is, but it's definitely not Tony.

  • Love that mandolin!!!!!

  • anyone no what kind of banjo hes playing on????

  • @supercross666 gibson of some sort, maybe a granada? or an rb-3

  • I think this is a good video...but i love bluegrass...and im learnin to play the banjo right now

    

  • I think this sounds perty good...but im a fan of bluegrass...and a banjo player myself

    

  • Fantastic, i love this speed banjo song ! WOoow !

  • YEEEEEEEEEEEE HAaaaaaaaaaa

  • To put the electric bass/upright bass controversy in perpective, it is well to remember that JD did a lot of experimentation with the New South back in the 70s , Electric bass was being used by Earl Scruggs (his son, Gary Scruggs played electric bass) and many others. Fortunately the fad passed and JD went back to upright bass many yeawrs ago.

    The upright bass is mic'd by a transducer microphone set on the bridge, so it is "electric" , but with an acoustic sound made louder.

  • An Electric bass in bluegrass music??! Blasphomy!!!

  • i believe that they should be using a good old fashioned standup base.

  • I swear that J.D. is smoother than a minner's lip on that five string. Got to be my favorite three finger picker.

  • @ArkRed1 I grew up watching Flatt and Scruggs and Reno and Smiley on TV back in the 50's and J. D. Crowe is about as close to the tone and style Earl had back then. Probably not exactly like (to me as good) as Earl in the 40's, 50's and 60's but close. Recent tapes of Earl, to me, even he isn't like the younger Earl. Nobody sounds exactly like the old Earl or Don Reno to me. Their styles and tone were all there own, but today J. D. comes awful close. Most modern banjo players bore me. Sorry.

  • i agree, electric bass dont belong in bluegrass music, not traditonal or progressive

  • The electric bass sounds terrible !

  • You boys can say whatever you want to about the bass but, the timing hasn't moved at all!!!!

  • Glorious picking - most enjoyable. Thanks to Jennie for the share.

  • WOW!!!

    5*****.

    Jennie.

  • i agree with judy about the bass

  • i agree with judy about the bass

  • brilliant

  • Please, an upright bass for this production instead of that electric one!

  • I like that.good picking.

  • Class!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Am I the only one who thinks an electric base in traditional bluegrass sounds awful?

  • Probably not, but I would make 2 points:

    1) I don't think anything could make these boys sound bad.

    2) JD and his bands were never traditional bluegrass. Hence electric bass, steel guitar, etc.

  • @masonb82: Steel guitars are in traditional bluegrass.

    I think the electric bass sounds awful too, too shallow.

  • That performance rocks! Good job J.D.!

    Electric bass doesn't sound particularly bad, but I sure do prefer the double bass.

  • @jacobk23

    Well, i can sound good, but it's too loud here. I've played with traditional Bluegrass bands that use elec. Basses. It's all about mixing it.

  • @jacobk23 I wouldn't say awful really. Just not proper.

  • @jacobk23 the bass not base is fine in traditional bluegrass. It's player however sounds like diddn't have it on the right settings or tuning.

  • @Mrtagnuts1 I worked with an electric bass player in a bluegrass setting who knew how to get a good acoustic sound. He knew the right volume, EQ, and touch which blended nicely with the band.

  • @jacobk23 its murderface.

  • @jacobk23 lol I was just about to make a comment on that. The electric bass just doesn't sound right at all.

  • @skipplet I don't notice anything wrong with it. I have played with both electric and upright bass players and I prefer electric.Uprights just don't have that bright tone, they are hard to pack and also trying the mic them sucks!

    I prefer electric bass in bluegrass.

  • Im about like you...I don't notice any thing wrong with it either....but I also think that bluegrass sounds better with the regular bass...i dont quite like electric....but it still sounds good...lol

  • @jacobk23 no jacob i totally agree. it just aint right. why would you play bluegrass guitar with a strat? gotta keep it real. thanks jtraske

  • @jacobk23 you can make an electric bass sound good in bluegrass music though.

  • Usually it does sound pretty bad. If you get a really good quality bass with an especially warm tone, it can sound good, but I usually just prefer the upright. :)

  • @jacobk23 It Isn't right, I don't like it either!

  • @jacobk23 yes you r..lol

  • @jacobk23

    That's why this is NewGrass not Bluegrass, it's a minor technicality but i think I'll forgive the lot of thumbs up here!! HAHA good times!!

  • @jacobk23 No your not. Upright bass needs to stay in Bluegrass forever.

  • This was the "recessional" at our wedding.

  • Bobby Slone is on fiddle, Wendy Miller on mando, Tony King on guitar, Steve "Boom Boom" Bryant on bass, and of course J. D. Crowe on the banjo.

  • I guess you know that not only being a left handed fiddler, he left the strings same as a right hand fiddle would play them. he played every instrument he played that way. Bobby told me when he was learning he borrowed other people's instruments and couldnt just change their strings, so that's how he learned to play backwards on regular tuned instruments. He can pick a banjo as well.

  • Who is that on fiddle? He's playing the fiddle left-handed. I've never seen that before. I'm left-handed, but I'm a graphic artist. I love J.D. Crowe's banjo playing. He is definitely the best in the country & that's not just me saying that.

  • they are all great pickers ,but i believe reno was the best i have ever heard

  • Anybody have Flatt and Scruggs at Carnagie Hall? Lester says the "whole lot of pickin' and a little tuning" on that too. I've always liked J. D. Crow but I have to admit that on Flint HIll Special, he plays it just like Earl does on that live album I have. Note for note. I just replayed the Scruggs cut to be sure. Shouldn't J. D. do a few new licks on that song? Or should he play it just like Earl? I don't know. When Don Reno played a Earl song he played it the Reno way not note for note Earl.

  • Don Reno was the greatest ever ,he didn't have to copy anyone

  • hi quality guy. i was born and grew up in roanoke, va. don reno played on local tv there every morning for years. don was a nice man, always willing to talk. we used to go down to the tv station. don reno was a scruggs fan and friend. don said when he got out of the army, earl was so popular with that style that don decided to add two finger and thumb runs on the banjo so to have his own style. as good as j. d. and others are, i wonder why they want to play so much like earl?

  • WWEP..What would earl pick...

  • am i the only tranny that likes grass???? crowe can sure hammer the five.....

  • Who is on bass?

  • Damn that electric bass just ruins it....lol

  • I`m an Irishman and Christ i love bluegrass !!

  • dec5551 You're an Irishman with class two of my favorite types of music are Irish and Blugrass both are awesome.

  • Cheers orbpupil ! I get plenty of irish music in the local pubs etc but bluegrass is less widely played in Ireland we do have a few festivals and ive met Bill Keith Pete wernick and Tony Trishka at a few of them what i would really like to do is go to the states sometime as ive never been to America where is the best place (Nashville ?)

  • @dec5551 ... it has irish roots too

  • @dec5551 I'm an Irishman from North Carolina from a long family o Irish n we grew up on this stuff down south! nothing beats it :)

  • @freedomfascist me 2! well.... we are scots-irish, but none the less i love this music. im only 22 so i really dont have any one to jam with as far as bluegrass and gaileic folk music are conserned, but this music is in our blood! its like we are geneticaly bound to love this music, im sure you understand. god bless a TRUE TARHEEL SOUL!

  • Guitar PLayer is Tony King

  • mandolin player is Wendy Miller

  • Tony Rice*

  • Definately not Tony Rice, at this time he wasn't with the group, That guitar player is Tony King* LOOK IT UP.

  • anyone know who the mandolin player is?

  • mandolin picker is Wendy Smith. Who is guitar player?

  • Wendy Miller on Mandolin

  • wincest

  • I like this kind of music:D

  • It is very nice to listen it.

  • HAHAHAHAHAHA you just made me laugh my ass off.

  • if he's the finest in the usa , earl, snuffy and friends must be in Europe ..

  • Left handed fiddle! Wow!

  • check out that bass players' perm...boy that thang is sweet.

  • The bassist got off easy on this one.

  • he went beast mode on that ol' banjo!!!!! Thats so awesome!

  • cool

  • Richard Bennett on the Bass! Wow

  • That's Randy Hayes on bass.

  • woah! that is some crazy banjo playing wow! i love what he does with the tuning...

  • This is great. I saw some other good videos by The Out Of Town Boys and The Johnson Mountain Boys. Y'all should check them out.

  • Is that Ron Speers on mandolin(of special concensus)?

  • HAHAH! No way. That's Wendy Miller.

  • Thanks IZZYMIZ i`ll have to brush up on my bluegrass research !!

  • c'est tout juste énorme!!!

    Merci

  • without a doubt i've never heard this played that fast...that is just rediculous...and he played it just like it was wrote too. Him and earl....and raymond fairchild..are the three best ever i mean roots and all that is where it came from when earl brought this sound here in the 40's. I like don reno but man he's not in these guys class as far as bein smooth and incorporating all the different rolls into one song I dont care what anyones says..awesome! three best ever! Bluegrass rules!

  • j.d.crowe and earl scruggs have a good thing in comon?theirs only one!!

  • The prewar grenada's are comming back. With the tone ring and trus rods and the warm rich tone they had it is definatly comming back. Course a grenada is simply probably the best banjo u can buy period....the flathead gibsons really have a lot more bass to them. Ive played some of them......if u can find one thats under 10 grand thats in really good shape..not a new one man buy that sucker..I am gonna get a grenada soon, thought about a huber..id rather have the grenada cant go wrong wit gibson!

  • great!!!

  • the bass player is Randy Hayes. Randy can also creat beauty out of anything that has a string attatched, including a tennis racket.

  • check out 2ndgeneration on youtube,they'll blow your socks off and on this one too.

  • great music!love banjo sound!

  • The Banjo is one of the best around but the player is the best to be found or heard. Even today 2008, he can still cut it! If you get a chance, go see him!

  • JD Crowe was definitely not the Chuck Norris of wardrobe selection.

  • Too funny!

  • JD is the Chuck Norris of banjo picking.

    Bluegrass fact #28 - JD can pull that same tone out of a coffee can strung with barb wire without picks. The only reason he doesn't do it is becuase all the other pickers would try to do it and you wouldn't be able to buy coffee or sell any picks.

  • LOL - indubitably. On top of that, he can play a tune whether he ever heard it before, or not.

  • Oh, sorry, that's out of context -- I was replying to the first comment. Also, the lead singer is Tony King. That places this video at about 1983 or 84, I think.

  • I hpoe he does I have some old "prewar" coffee can I would like to get rid of lol

  • Wonderful video ... about 25 years old I'd guess. That was really the era of great pickers. JD, Earl, and don't forget Don Reno are as good as anyone that's ever played the instrument. Jim Mills is probably the best around these days. It's a shame that great instrumentals like Flint Hill Special are seldom heard these days. It's a treat to see the masters play them.

  • What are we talking here??? It sort of looks like The Deering Golden Era that I just bought. And I say this even thougt some one says pre war!

  • It's a prewar flathead Granada.

  • I'd kill a man for that banjo.

  • VV44NNcc33

    Learn to play that good and maybe you wouldn't have to kill someone to get a banjo that nice!

  • Still might have to, a prewar like that is worth more than most houses.

  • :))

  • who wouldn't

  • Wow. JD just makes it seem effortless.

  • that was kick ass banjer pickin, yeeee...haw!

  • Dude!

  • I saw and heard J.D. Crowe playing this piece at the Birchmere in Washington D.C. in 1982 (or maybe it was in 1981?) . Can´t avoid some nostalgic feelings. Great playing - oustanding American music! Here in Europe it is too seldom seen.

  • same in Canada!

  • Apparently, he used to come here in Canada a whole lot back in the 70's and that general time. Have some pictures of him in hamilton from a while back.

  • That bass player has a bitching afro/mullet/perm

  • screw chromatic tuning? If that's what you're worried about, listen to Charles Wood. That guy, like a lightening strike, will blow your shoes right off.

    JD is great though and I like this song...but that ending? Sorry, that gets a bit sloppy and i get lost. is it just me there?

  • Its just you there, take my word for it.

  • yep, khybor, it's just you. sorry.

  • Oh my good god! Shut up already! If anything they're both the same.

    Everyone has different opinions and if they're strong enough, nothing you say is gonna change em! So if I like Earl better, so what. If you like JD better, so what. I'm not gonna argue with you for an hour over it.

  • Earl certainly isn't the "best", he was just the "first" (although he really wasn't) I Know Earl is good, I'm a fan of his, but i'd take Crowe over Scruggs any day..screw chromatic playing.

  • To all you posters that compare and debate about who is 'better'. You all wouldn't know what or who is better. If you are childish enough to make comparisons between two world class musicians, you obviously don't have the brain capacity to know who is better. I'm a National Champion fiddle player. People like me are the only people that have a right to say who's better and I'll tell you right now, there is no such thing.

  • You said it for sure! Everyone has different opinions and if they're strong enough, nothing ANYONE says is gonna change em! So if I like Earl better, so what. If someone likes JD better, so what. I'm not gonna argue with someone for an hour over it.

  • exactly. you're dead on the money.

  • Hey guys J.D. is old and still doing great. The only reason he is not as good as Earl is becuase he wasn't born before Earl. That's my personal opinion becuase I know J.D.

  • jd is good but he's not earl!!! Earl is the man!!!!!

  • Thank you very much for sharing, that´s my favourite scruggs tune, done perfectly by JD in my opinion!

  • Damn the bass player is good,because it's me! he he he

    I couldn't resist that,thanks Jarrod.

  • Hey Randy! Thanks for the comment! Nice being able to chat with you and Tony earlier...you guys are great!

  • J D picking it as good as it can be picked.

  • Well Earl's was better ;)

  • Your opinion. J.D. is as good a banjo player who ever picked a string my opinion of course.

  • Whoa whoa whoa

    I didnt' say JD wasn't great. JD IS great! Just Earl is better LOL

  • Well remember that Earl has a step above JD, Earl lived in rural NC, more secluded, I don't think Earl even had a radio until he was already picking 3-finger, he could come up with his own style without so many people telling him he was doing it wrong. Earl perfected it, JD used it, so you might say that thats one thing Earl has over JD.

  • True. Think of how many pickers have copied/used Earl's famous style!

  • To many to count, LOL.

  • I do agree!

  • Plus Earl wrote this song, there might not be a single lick in this song that Earl didn't do first, knowing Earl, LOL.

  • I don't pay all THAT close attention to EVERY single lick. JD played a few parts slightly differently, but other than that it's the same. I think Earl and JD both are the best at their own songs.

  • Well the main difference is the tuner at the 3rd break instead of the 2nd like Earl's and at the ending, which is weirder than Earl's.

    Best at their own songs? Yeah sure, thats a cool way to look at it.

  • Yup. They composed it, so they know it best.

  • I do think that Jim Mills does Blackjack better than JD, I can't help it, just like Jimmy better.

  • Well maybe ;)

    Please don't kill me JD! LOL

  • It DOES sound a bit weird. I guess just the normal dtuning, plus the 2nd string, PLUS the ending and ending tune all crammed into one break is kinda a lot.

  • Yup.