Hydrogen and oxygen by electrolysis, pumped into a torch. Pretty neat but nothing new. Takes a boatload of watts to make large amounts. Flame is quite hot. You can wave your hand though a regular blow torch slower than that. Putting that electricity into a plasma torch is more efficient and even neater. Check out watch?v=cb5NgC2Y4uc Precision and power.
In all instance of using the flame to cut/heat the target, the tip of the cutter is approx. 1/4 inch from the target, and (nearly) perpendicular. In the only two non-cutting/heating exceptions, he is either passing his hand very quickly though the extreme end of the flame (where it has lost the vast majority of it's heat), or applying the extreme end of the flame obliquely to a heavy steel plate -- which works as a heat sink.
If it's not hot, try holding the flame to your hand 1/4 inch away.
well, its not, you can test it for yourself. It is just as hot as candle flame when you wave your hand through it. Nevertheless the flame can boil the surface of stones. That is something that no one can truly explain, because in conventional situations, the flame must be hotter than the material it needs to melt, but this thing is a whole different story, maybe because of the implosion effect, I don't know, but it is amazing.
we are assembling a torch and was curious how large the opening is at the tip of your torch. We have a brazing tip and the opening is about a mm wide. What do you use? Great vid! Thanks for the demo!
What electrolyte are you using? I have a minitorch and the cell is running on a mix of lye/vinegar and tapwater, and my flame is yellow!! And not so effective! I can't get so much amperage out of baking soda, are there anything better to use?
I am using KOH and I found this to be the best electrolyte there is. Because as the water breaks in oxygen and hydrogen, the KOH remins in the electrolyte and all you need is to refill the water occasionally. And the gas this way is not toxic.
juus neesat meeginaajushi apsildiit telpas ar hho liesmu? vai juus esat meeriijushi kilovatus? (have you tried to heat a room with hho gas? have you measured kilowatts?)
Teorētiski ar apkurināšanu nevajadzētu būt problēmu un izmantojot šo metodi tai būtu jābūt ļoti efektīvai, bet praktiski - nezinu. Šinī video HHO aparāts apēda ap 600W
flapper valves wont work because the flame speed (or burn rate of HHO is approximately 3900 meters per second, way too fast for check-valves of any kind. The flashback arrester that he is running seems to work very well and safe. Very good job on the build. I would not take out the neutral plates because they tend to limit the amount of current that the cell can draw. Instead, i would increase electrolyte concentration to get more amps.
This electrolyzer cost me about 200$. But it is not perfect. There are simpler, cheaper and easier ways to built an electrolyzer of the same output and also smaller in dimensions. I will build one and make a video so you can see how its done.
i took many acetylene and welding classes here in chicago. i think that the reason you are burning up your tips is that you are too close to what you are cutting. try backing up a little and trust in flame. those tips should never burn out.
adam ant, I don't know about oxyacetylene, but this flame heats the materials up more quickly if the torch is as close as possible to the material, at least at the gas pressures I have :) I need to get rid of the neutral plates, then I will get more amps through the cell at lower voltages. This will increase the gas output and thus the pressure. The flame will be longer and stronger and I wont need to put it so close to the materials anymore :)
o, i see. yes, pressure and output are definitely factors to cutting/welding easily.
i believe that we use 7 psi for the oxy-acetylene to maintain proper flame size.
as for blowback, have you tried spring loaded flapper valves? as soon as your pressure drops below the set amount, the flap will close and will prevent the flame from going backwards. a control valve before the nozzle may help with this as well, at least when shutting the unit off.
o, i see. yes, pressure and output are definitely factors to cutting/welding easily.
i believe that we use 7 psi for the oxy-acetylene to maintain proper flame size.
as for blowback, have you tried spring loaded flapper valves? as soon as your pressure drops below the set amount, the flap will close and will prevent the flame from going backwards. a control valve before the nozzle may help with this as well, at least when shutting the unit off.
Mērķis pagaidām ir tikai izpēte, bet jāsaka, ka ar rezultātiem esmu vcairāk kā apmierināts. Tik daudz brīnišķīgu pielietojumu šim verķim un tagad varu ar pārliecību teikt, ka šai gāzei ir lbākajā gadījumā "neparastas" īpašības :D
I have not measured the gas volume so far, because it does not interest me. All I need so far is just enough gas to make a good torch so I can investigate the many great possible uses for this gas.
This IS the BEST HHO-torch video on the YouTube so far! Super clarity and your workmanship is, as always, very inspiring! What's the gas volume/minute?
Hydrogen and oxygen by electrolysis, pumped into a torch. Pretty neat but nothing new. Takes a boatload of watts to make large amounts. Flame is quite hot. You can wave your hand though a regular blow torch slower than that. Putting that electricity into a plasma torch is more efficient and even neater. Check out watch?v=cb5NgC2Y4uc Precision and power.
michalchik 10 months ago
In all instance of using the flame to cut/heat the target, the tip of the cutter is approx. 1/4 inch from the target, and (nearly) perpendicular. In the only two non-cutting/heating exceptions, he is either passing his hand very quickly though the extreme end of the flame (where it has lost the vast majority of it's heat), or applying the extreme end of the flame obliquely to a heavy steel plate -- which works as a heat sink.
If it's not hot, try holding the flame to your hand 1/4 inch away.
MultiSteveB 1 year ago
Chau!!!!!! cik volti tev i???? un cik amp.
juris666 1 year ago
nice job
MrKodiak1000 1 year ago
how can the flame "not be hot" when you are melting glass and ceramic?
oozt 2 years ago
well, its not, you can test it for yourself. It is just as hot as candle flame when you wave your hand through it. Nevertheless the flame can boil the surface of stones. That is something that no one can truly explain, because in conventional situations, the flame must be hotter than the material it needs to melt, but this thing is a whole different story, maybe because of the implosion effect, I don't know, but it is amazing.
Jetijs 2 years ago
@Jetijs Electron spinng vs non organic materials..
scificorner 1 year ago
good question..wish we have an answer
thegreatkoua 2 years ago
Perfect my friend,what do u use for backflash arrestor?
Sumermagor 3 years ago
we are assembling a torch and was curious how large the opening is at the tip of your torch. We have a brazing tip and the opening is about a mm wide. What do you use? Great vid! Thanks for the demo!
kratomosphere 3 years ago
Its how this device that manipulated
fafadi13 3 years ago
have your plates shown any sign of corrosion thus far?
rewindyourpants 3 years ago
That's what I was wondering. Wouldn't the steel plates oxidize & corrode proportionately?
MAJIKVEGGIE 2 years ago
What electrolyte are you using? I have a minitorch and the cell is running on a mix of lye/vinegar and tapwater, and my flame is yellow!! And not so effective! I can't get so much amperage out of baking soda, are there anything better to use?
2550osiosterdalen 3 years ago
I am using KOH and I found this to be the best electrolyte there is. Because as the water breaks in oxygen and hydrogen, the KOH remins in the electrolyte and all you need is to refill the water occasionally. And the gas this way is not toxic.
Jetijs 3 years ago
should i use 316 #4 finish or 316 2B ?
rewindyourpants 3 years ago
I don't really know what is the difference with those steel grades, I suppose both would work fine. I am using 304 grade steel, but 316 is better.
Jetijs 3 years ago
juus neesat meeginaajushi apsildiit telpas ar hho liesmu? vai juus esat meeriijushi kilovatus? (have you tried to heat a room with hho gas? have you measured kilowatts?)
kokotele2 3 years ago
Teorētiski ar apkurināšanu nevajadzētu būt problēmu un izmantojot šo metodi tai būtu jābūt ļoti efektīvai, bet praktiski - nezinu. Šinī video HHO aparāts apēda ap 600W
Jetijs 3 years ago
no, this is 304 grade stainless steel
Jetijs 3 years ago
do you use 316 stainless?
rewindyourpants 3 years ago
flapper valves wont work because the flame speed (or burn rate of HHO is approximately 3900 meters per second, way too fast for check-valves of any kind. The flashback arrester that he is running seems to work very well and safe. Very good job on the build. I would not take out the neutral plates because they tend to limit the amount of current that the cell can draw. Instead, i would increase electrolyte concentration to get more amps.
flipster12000 3 years ago
Hi all.
This electrolyzer cost me about 200$. But it is not perfect. There are simpler, cheaper and easier ways to built an electrolyzer of the same output and also smaller in dimensions. I will build one and make a video so you can see how its done.
BTW, in this video I used 30V 20A DC power.
Jetijs 3 years ago
how much money did you spent on this? (by the way it's awesome) i am planing to build one, smaller!
RokSrakaCar 3 years ago
what kind of power suply did you use? (how many volts and amps???)
RokSrakaCar 3 years ago
Hallo.
I am from Germany .
What make you from the water.
yaqer 3 years ago
what is your gas output.. voltage and amps in now?
risingsunHHO 3 years ago
I am also curious as to how many amps and at what voltage. That is a very well put together setup
2slofouru 3 years ago
how maney amps and volts thanks can u make a video on how to make one
pitbike2006 3 years ago
hey Jetijs, this is adam ant.
i took many acetylene and welding classes here in chicago. i think that the reason you are burning up your tips is that you are too close to what you are cutting. try backing up a little and trust in flame. those tips should never burn out.
bccritters 3 years ago
adam ant, I don't know about oxyacetylene, but this flame heats the materials up more quickly if the torch is as close as possible to the material, at least at the gas pressures I have :) I need to get rid of the neutral plates, then I will get more amps through the cell at lower voltages. This will increase the gas output and thus the pressure. The flame will be longer and stronger and I wont need to put it so close to the materials anymore :)
Jetijs 3 years ago
o, i see. yes, pressure and output are definitely factors to cutting/welding easily.
i believe that we use 7 psi for the oxy-acetylene to maintain proper flame size.
as for blowback, have you tried spring loaded flapper valves? as soon as your pressure drops below the set amount, the flap will close and will prevent the flame from going backwards. a control valve before the nozzle may help with this as well, at least when shutting the unit off.
awesome work though, as usual :)
bccritters 3 years ago
o, i see. yes, pressure and output are definitely factors to cutting/welding easily.
i believe that we use 7 psi for the oxy-acetylene to maintain proper flame size.
as for blowback, have you tried spring loaded flapper valves? as soon as your pressure drops below the set amount, the flap will close and will prevent the flame from going backwards. a control valve before the nozzle may help with this as well, at least when shutting the unit off.
awesome work though, as usual :)
bccritters 3 years ago
what do you use for gasketing on your cell enclosure?
number of plates, and plate size?
rewindyourpants 3 years ago
I used a large piece of 3mm thick rubber sheet to cut the shim for sealing everything airthight. I use five 150x200mm large plates on each section.
Jetijs 3 years ago
is it necessary to keep the individual cells separated to maintain 2 volts/cell
rewindyourpants 3 years ago
Yes, it is. You can't get 2v on each section if you have common electrolyte
Jetijs 3 years ago
Čava.
Mērķis pagaidām ir tikai izpēte, bet jāsaka, ka ar rezultātiem esmu vcairāk kā apmierināts. Tik daudz brīnišķīgu pielietojumu šim verķim un tagad varu ar pārliecību teikt, ka šai gāzei ir lbākajā gadījumā "neparastas" īpašības :D
Paldies
Jetijs 3 years ago
Opā! Ko es dzirdu!? Letiņu valoda! Nu tad beidzot kāds domu biedrs! Apsveicu ar pānākumiem. Kāds ir galvenais darba mērķis?
alexandrs35 3 years ago
For information, could you tell me what shade goggles you wore if you did?
Thanks,
Ben
BasementBen 3 years ago
wehre did u get the torch?
rewindyourpants 3 years ago
try heating chalk it will glow extremely bright , i think its called limelight
great video
twirlywirly55 3 years ago
Very clean setup. Large quantity of HHO. I know the commercial version of this goes for like 1,000.
marthale7 3 years ago
Thank you :)
I have not measured the gas volume so far, because it does not interest me. All I need so far is just enough gas to make a good torch so I can investigate the many great possible uses for this gas.
Thanks
Jetijs 3 years ago
very cool :]
pi3573 3 years ago
This IS the BEST HHO-torch video on the YouTube so far! Super clarity and your workmanship is, as always, very inspiring! What's the gas volume/minute?
InventorGadget 3 years ago