Margaret Thatcher talking with Mikhail Gorbachev about Nuclear Weapons

[cmpv079]

The Nuclear problem is kind controversial.

But if you ask me if I agree with it, I would say no.

-But then how can a countries in Europe or like the USA can produce energy at lower cost in a short period?

-With nuclear.

Sadly I don´t know if all the countries and it´s leaders are able to discuss the problem of the energy and find a solution that would benefit the "natural energy" since the "mineral energy" extract mainly in the East are terribly important for the those countries economies.

[Bigbearbeau]

do politicians talk like this now?........NO!

[HaiLsKuNkY]

@Bigbearbeau william hague does.

[Ksanthipa]

Mrs Thatcher is a real star ! Love her !

but Gorbachev -is the loser and people in russia hate him.

[CollectivePreference]

@Ksanthipa

Why ? I'm curious.

[Ksanthipa]

@Ksanthipa he is evil bastard with satan mark on his head.!!His stupid domestic policies had a disastrous consequence for russia: economic distraction,political instability,ethnic conflicts,internal wars,death &sufferings of hundreds of thousands people and the collapse of USSR! dont read bullshit western propaganda , read russian reputable sources the..man is fucking evil!

[openskies11]

Really, is the only way to prevent conventional war to have nuclear weapons? Can't we advance our thinking to be against all war, with any kind of weapons?

[jackuhreee]

@openskies11 When you're talking about a world with now said to hold over 7billion people, that's easier said than done, unfortunately :(

[CoLiC2]

@openskies11

You do that while I go prove God, quit masturbating and win the lottery, then we'll meet back here at half past impossible, kk?

[CollectivePreference]

@openskies11

No, War is a natural thing, sometimes even a necessary thing, it's inescapable.

[Fridaey13txhOktober]

He was the only person in the world that found her attractive, haha!

[michste1]

real wealth and prosperity doesn't come from money, it comes from other things in life. Money is an illution, it's a system, it's not real. Money isn't working. It is making a few rich and many poor.It is a way to control people, that's all it is. Money has not existed that long and it will certanly not exist for much longer as it is a low vibrational enery form which cannot exist in the new times we are entering.

[fawazorama]

@shanekeane200123456 Of course society's interests should be considered, that's why we have social rights. But they should NEVER supress the civil rights.

[fawazorama]

@shanekeane200123456 What makes society are the individuals. If you think no individual interests should be considered, move to Cuba. Western civilization is ALL about individual and civil rights.

[zebra4593]

shes like dr. strangelove

[michste1]

I mean, we don't need capitalism. It's just a way to control the human being. We can live a brilliant life without it. Nobody has the right to grant someone freedom nor take it away from us so who is this control system but more importantly, who are we. We need to understand the nature of our reality which as been distorted.

[michste1]

We were put on this earth as equals and we shall remain as equals. Who the hell are these people controlling humanity! Lets just say they don't have any human qualities and they use the greatest tool to control us: money and mind manipulation. Capitalism is not real, it's just a way to control us all. But don't worry capitalism shall not be with us for much longer. There is another way to live our lives.

[ttiiyy]

@michste1 What do you mean by another way?

[Bleakfacts]

@michste1 Haha "Money and mind manipulation". Not guns and tanks? We can't just live in this world and trade peacefully with each other? No, money is evil, so shoot every one who has it. You demonize wealth and prosperity.

[fireice2037]

Why are people scared of socialism? Im scared of greedy conservative values that killed our economy. Socialism isnt bad if you know how to use it.

[harryalfie7]

@fireice2037 Capitalism isn't bad if used properly either.

[fawazorama]

@fireice2037 Socialism is always bad, for its ideology puts itself above the individuals.

[fireice2037]

@fawazorama The same can be said for conservatism. Putting 1% of the population above the rest. Its all crap lol

[gulbirk]

@fawazorama """for its ideology puts itself above the individuals.""" sorry that doesnt make any sense . The ideology cant do anything on its own. People put it whereever it is. Pluss, it doesnt put itself OVER anyone. Its UNDER everyone.

[fawazorama]

@gulbirk Yes it does make sense, because normally it is just an armed "democratic" minority that imposes its ideology over the individuals. And after, the "great" figure of the state. I think you understood me clearly, don't you twist my words.

[gulbirk]

@fawazorama There is nothing in socialism that says anything about a revolution, totalitarianism or police state. That is the actions of different socialist states that have existed. It has also happened in countries that didnt have democrasy, so there wasnt any alternative options.

[fawazorama]

@gulbirk Actually it always depends on the social doctrine. Marxism preaches on revolution, Marx has an entire book to it, and is the most "followed" one. The thing on police state is that it's necessary to provide material equality, as we know that humans aren't much as always good willing. In MY opinion, if to support a doctrine people must say that it is perfect and the problem lies on the people, it is a bad doctrine that puts itself above humanity.

[gulbirk]

@fawazorama The problem does lie on the people. If people were nice, of course no one would need any of these systems. We could have anarcho capitalism if everyone just HAPPENED to be nice. unfortunetly, there is a little thing called reality that fucks with that idea.

"""The thing on police state is that it's necessary to provide material equality"""" Marx was an anarchist. He didnt want states, countries or borders.

[fawazorama]

@gulbirk Marx knows that the state is necessary. That is why he doesn't preach anarchism. The problem lies on people, yes. That's why we try to work on solutions. But it's not the people itself. If that was the case we should all just kill ourselves.

[gulbirk]

@fawazorama Yes it is the people .Any system could work perfectly if everyone wanted to live in a Utopia and acted extremely nice and reasonable.

Of course, thats not going to happen, which is why you need things like states.

Marx never preached about the state,in fact, to an extent he did preach anarchism. Because he openly stated that there shouldnt be a state.

[fawazorama]

@gulbirk We need to remember that Marx is completely bound to positivism and cience. He may not like the state, but saying he preaches anarchism is a little to much, as for he knows that extinguishing the state while maintaining equality or security is simply not possible. He's bound to the method.

[gulbirk]

@fawazorama You havent read Marx or anything of any communist, so I dont think you are in any positition to claim what they say or not. Or what is possible or not. Capitalism is an economic system. So is communism. None say anything about the governing of a country, or the neccesity of a state.

"""as for he knows that extinguishing the state while maintaining equality or security is simply not possible."" He never stated anything of the sort.

[TakenbyForce78]

she so british haha

[MrMdjmeredith]

Trident needs to be updated and not abolished!! Mrs Thatcher knows what she's talking about, take note Lib Dems!!

[OdetteValmont]

Can you hear this Lib Dems? Cutting down our nuclear deterrent to eventually nothing will not work... If anything, the Trident system needs updating and expanding... There will be no such thing as a nuclear free world.

[Dudley185]

i actually agree with this, use atomic bombs as deterrents, otherwise risk conventional or chemical war

[ShowPolitics]

@Dudley185 No need for a transcript.

[DanielHewsonPianist]

She is of course right as usual