SLA Sentencing Hearing Part 2

[mrfilmnoir68]

Death to the fascist insect that preys on the lives of the people.........

[calamagrostis88]

The sad thing is that the focus on the idiocy of these people detracts from from some of the core principles of the 70's, that is that global capitalism is responsible for murder and starvation on a vast scale. I am sorry that this guy lost his mom and these defendants certainly deserve life in prison. But where is the outrage against the ultra-rich who rule us and are destroying our planet?

[homeostasis4me]

@calamagrostis88 How are the "ultra rich" destroying this planet any more than YOU ARE in your gas-guzzler? Hipocrite.

[calamagrostis88]

@homeostasis4me I don't drive a gas guzzler, and you misspelled hypocrite. I guess you know the tea party propaganda rules, never ever criticize business and the super rich, always blame all problems on liberal government. 

[homeostasis4me]

@calamagrostis88 It's pretty funny that you felt compelled to point out my spelling error, but made punctuation errors whilst doing so...... You are as much to blame for the state of this planet as every other human being on it, including myself. Hippocryte.

[calamagrostis88]

@homeostasis4me Your logic is faulty. Just because everyone on Earth has an impact on the evironment does not mean that our impact is equal. For example the businessman who orders the logging of 10,000 acres of rainforest bears much more responsibility than the people who buy the wood, and people like me who never buy tropical hardwood bear no responsibility for that act at all.

[homeostasis4me]

@calamagrostis88 You eat the food that was grown on wild land cleared for fields; you wear the cotton grown on farms, eat the beef raised on pastures, and live in a wooden house made from the wood cleared to make these open fields.Your home's wiring is made from copper that was strip-mined, the electricity you use was made from coal that was also strip-mined. Your vehicle belches fumes into the atmosphere just like mine.You provide the incentive for the businessmen, dude.YOU CREATE THE DEMAND.

[homeostasis4me]

@calamagrostis88 Of note is the fact that rainforests aren't beigh cleared for exotic wood; the wood is a byproduct. The forests are being cleared to create farmland for things like palm oil, which YOU create the demand for every time you buy a Twinkie or a bag of Doritos. No demand, no supply. Faulty logic, INDEED..... 

[calamagrostis88]

@homeostasis4me It is simple moral logic, those who have more power and authority bear a larger share of the blame. Hitler was far more morally culpable than the guard at a death camp or a German citizen who turned a blind eye. So even though consumers are a part of the problem it is those who have most of the money, power and authority who have the most opportunity to make things better and help consumers make better choices. They are profiting from the degradation of the Earth's biosphere

[homeostasis4me]

@calamagrostis88 If that helps you to sleep at night, then ok. Enjoy your Twinkies.

[homeostasis4me]

@calamagrostis88 It's funny- these "ultra rich" who you contend "rule us " allow me to own an AR15, 12ga shotgun, 45, two 380 autos, 9mm, 38 spl, 22 rifle, and literally THOUSANDS of rounds of ammo. They "allow" me to carry a loaded handgun on my person 7 days a week, everywhere I go. They "allowed" my state to pass an amendment to its' constitution making hunting ......wait for it..... a LEGAL RIGHT. With friends like them, who needs enemies, right? Psssshhhhttt.

[calamagrostis88]

@homeostasis4me They don't care much about guns, what they want is to distract people with issues like gun control while they make sure that the American people have absolutely no control over their own economy. Some financier in New York or London or Dubai or Tokyo can with a few keystrokes totally suck all the capital out of your town or your state and destroy your livelyhood, and if you try to stop them they will take even more money away, because you are threatening the "free market"

[homeostasis4me]

@calamagrostis88 Provide the mechanisms by which they effect this control on my local Wal-Mart. On my local plumber's business. On my wife's furniture hardware business. BE SPECIFIC, since you obviously know what you're talking about. No conjecture, no hyperbole. Just the play-by-play synopsis by which this control is wielded.  Or maybe you should just find something I misspelled and latch onto that, instead....

[calamagrostis88]

@homeostasis4me On November 17 Massey Mining CEO blamed excessive government regulation for declining profits. The implicit threat is that if we demand that these mines stop cutting corners that lead to the deaths of their employees, or stop ripping the tops off of mountains or stop poisoning the water, they will shut down the mines and all the local Wal-Marts, plumbing and furniture businesses will soon follow. And globally they use the same tactics to enslave entire countries.

[homeostasis4me]

@calamagrostis88 Funny thing is, Wal-Mart gets most of it's products from.....CHINA. China uses its own natural resources for its exports. You're not making a very good case for your argument, here..... Funny that you assert Wallyworld will be waylaid by mining techniques, when China has few to NO mining regulations, on the whole. Tell us all where the products you buy from Wal-Mart are labeled as being produced in, bud. I'm game. You have my attention!

[calamagrostis88]

@homeostasis4me That is my point exactly. These corporations have no loyalty to the American people. The whole problem with the teabagger movement is that they would cripple our government and the corporations will step right into the power vacuum. Corporations will be much happier to rule us without the the inconvenience of democracy.

[MthrfckrOfTheYear]

Its not everyday you find real people like the SLA willing to stand up against this evil country we live in!

[cantilever]

Sara Olson can spend the rest of her days in St. Paul "mentoring," "volunteering," and being "involved" in community affairs...

It won't erase the damage she has done. Redemption is impossible...she is a snake...

Sara Jane Olson can listen to Pacifica radio, watch Bill Moyers on PBS, cook up some vegetarian paella, and drink merlot in her upscale house...

Myrna Opsahl will remain in her premature grave...Jon Opsahl's kids will never know their grandmother...

Sara Olson is a snake...

[raincrowd]

DEATH PENALTY TO SLA!

[AsianAmerican68]

The Sacramento DA screwed up, let too much time go by, witnesses died, memories faded, the Case just withered away.

This was MURDER WITH SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCE, and EVERYONE, INCLUDING PATTY HEARST should have been EXECUTED IN THE GAS CHAMBER!! Bill Harris even BRAGGED about it after pulling the job off.

Such a deal... !!

[ph03n1xamb1t]

@AsianAmerican68

WHY ARE YOU WRITING IN CAPITAL LETTERS???? IT IS A TRUE SIGN OF AN ILLITERATE MORON!!!!

[yogione]

An admirable summary statement by someone fully aware of the implications of the guilty plea by these people if the sentences were not enough by any fair estimation. There is no statute of limitations on the crime of murder. Getting away with it is not so easy. What would Capote write about this bunch, I wonder?