I heard Battlefield 3 (EA) would require you to have an activation code for online or make you buy one. I decided not to get the game as online is half of Battlefield.
l1 games are right why now games are forcing to make you pay one day you have money and then you see ea luaghing at you for giving away your life savings to them fuck ea sports
The thing is there's too many gamers who aren't aware of this and EA wants it that way.
In the comments I see Uncharted 3 and BF3? I didn't even know I just see the title not the company.We have to spread the word..this awareness of EA stealing us.
@TheDonsketch So true there are too many uninformed gamer that are just buying into this and most do not even know what this is until recently now with the release of BF3 Muzz you need to do another video on the online pass man.
The thing is people say "I'm tired of this crap" but in the end won't do anything to stop it. Only if there were more people willing to take action, like L1Games. I bought uncharted 3 and assassin's creed revelations, used, uncharted 3 for like 50 bucks, and now i have to pay $10 extra for each game to play something that should be free. I always bragged to my cousin about how I could play free on the PS3, while he had to pay on Xbox, well now my point is invalid.
"Remember when you got this stuff for beating Resident Evil? All of that work and time put into the game so you can have that rocket launcher and the new costume? Now you're not rewarded for gaming....you're charged an extra fee"
That line alone just makes me yearn for the days when gaming was actually complete and rewarding. What happened to those rewards? We pay for them now. And parts of the game that SHOULD HAVE been included. fuck
EA is full of shit... i have stopped buying their games and if they start dominating 100% of all game industry i will stop buying games, that how much i hate them
i would be ready to give up gaming if ea would die
i have said this before but muzz, you saying we are going to be right back into 1983 just proves my point even more. NINTENDO will save us once again. :)
@ItalianAttitude5o4 yep cod has its "elite" service and EA with the online pass , subscription fees, developers and publishers dont look in to value of the game
your video somehow really touched me , all of this is making me think : were is going the game industry ,with the price of the game going up and up and all those little "tricks" they do to suck more money from us every years , what will it be next , they'll charge us more just because we want to get our game on physical discs , pretending they do this because its going to save the environment like they did with game manual ?
actually, thats how it may look sometimes, But we also have to consider that People Trade in old games to get new games. those are sales that developers wouldn't get if the consumer didn't have the $60 to blow on a game and was not abole to supplement this difference with used titles. This is just one way that we can see how the used game market does a lot to stimulate the sales of new games.
no way, they sell you the online pass with the game disc itself..its really forced on you ..its unavoidable...i don't really like playing online ...i wonder why i was forced to pay for the online pass.
now sony i was thinking about cancelling my UC3 preorder but the thing is that i don't really sale my games and i tried not to buy ea games but i had failed i bought fifa and crysis 2 and ME2 and the one was used and fortunately the pass still works and i also haven't used my fifa 11 pass yet but fuck them thay now they are not loosing money at all but they don't care they really pissed me off
@gwsstar their tactitics is to say that its a limited edition just so that you can get the game at launch day and they will get more money thats what they are doing its a dirty trick just like special dlc wit some retailers if you preorder there
@gwsstar that is true but that doesn't take away that EA cares less about the costumers they release some crapy games and we get punish for trying to get rid of it
I WHOLEHEARTEDLY agree with you and I keep telling people the same thing. But they are ignorant and love to get screwed to put it lightly. I love video games and the games that have the pass are games I like. I also keep telling people that FIRST DAY sales makes or breaks a game. At that time the game is full price. So to express my dissatisfaction, I wait until that game gets to 40 dollars or below to buy it. So, there goes their first day profit! I buy games I know, new. EA lose among others.
The more i watch stuff like this the more i want to lose my self control, buy a nuke, and drop it on EA!!! Unfortunately i'm too nice for that now. =)
Hey Muzz...if I ever do my Video Game review show, mind if I use that "Douchebadge"? That is clever and I'll give you a shout out when I first mention it.
i agree with the digital copy of games is bs if i wan play my game at a buddy's i would have to take my console with me not i would much rather have a cartridge/disc so i cant trade if i decide i want to trade it to get some thing else and the guy at my local game stop try to get me to go with the psp go when i was buying the psp he was like its better and you dont have to worry about carry disc around
Muzz, I think I can tell you when we became nothing more then obedient puppets to EA and other groups I won't mention. When the new generation was born. Although I am part of this new generation the only people around me who play games are timid cowards that do whatever they're told and don't complain. Ignorant people like this are who are aiding EA in their attempt to earn as much as they can then turn their backs on games as a whole. These are the people ignorant enough to say "Get over it."
The new mortal kombat has an online pass i found out you have to pay to activate it if you bought it used to play online. its just like the movie company that do not really want you to let your pal borrow your DVD or let someone borrow a CD they want you to buy it all over it again now its expanding to video game......
I'm waiting for the day when Blizzard makes starcraft 2 a subscription game to support their servers. hopefully their expansions make enough to where they won't have to do that.
I'm not a hardcore EA gamer anymore so it's not hurting me yet.
Liked and Subscribed for this. THANK YOU. SOOOOO Much. This is exactly the kind of video I've been waiting for. I'm tired of paying $130 for a game that 'cost' $60. This is all I talk about with my friends.
This is bull. I have not bought any game that has online pass, partly because i dont have the money to go out and buy all the games i want new. And honestly, the online pass has pretty much scared me away from the used market. I'll probably get hate for this but i dont care, the online pass is mostly anyone's fault who cant go a year without buying a new damn sports game. if you would have boycotted a new sports title for a year, we probably wouldnt have the pass, at least not to this extent.
@honor1217 Do you not see what he's saying? He's saying that EA has been planning this and it will soon come reality in one way or another. Companies have already started doing this, like he said, with games like Mortal Kombat. In 1983, the public got sick and tried of the same crap, money being wasted, if things go the way they are then the public will get sick of money being wasted on things that should be free. That's what he's saying and it all makes perfect sense.
And you wnat to know something funny?, i tried to buy BF BC2 recently at microsoft's games on demand, EA Video game that comes with their stupid "VIP PASS", and guess what? if you want to play online with that game you're buying at microsoft's games on demand, you have to buy their stupid "VIP PASS", yes, you must pay for the game and then pay for their online pass, F.U EA = ) .
So is the goal of your msg only telling us not to support EA? What about other gaming companies that follow pursuit to EA's unethical business tactic? Particularly the ones that aren't in much financial success as EA.
I just want to makes sure because from what I learn from your vid (as well from your past vids) EA is already in huge financial success even before the online pass yet they are overdoing with the online pass now.
@L1Games you may not say stop support of EA but ill say boycott EA becuse of them we dont have other NFL football games from other companys all we have is Madden and im sick of it...for the most part thay have a monopoly on sports games also thanks to them SONY in Sept will do a online pass code if the Rumor is true witch makes no sense why thay would do that thanks to Peter Moore he killed my favorite console of all time the SEGA Dreamcast and now he wants to kill gameing..
@kevinsvideogameworld Peter Moore wants to kill gaming in the way we know it.............it seems that video game companys want to be digtal or be part of the cloud if this happens im retireing from gameing ...... its bull shit this is not the 1980's so once that change happens i cant image an other nintendo will save us this time it will be GAME OVER MAN ! please people BOYCOTT companys like EA i dont want anymore CHANGE if it's not broken dont try to fix it??? cause your making thing worse
the dilemma is not as simple as boycotting. the difference between the 1983 to now is the cost of developing a game. we all know we are still in a rot with economy, game companies are only trying to maintain the same level of budget without sacrificing the quality of the game. in order to do so, they charge us with bs subs. today, the gamer community standards are high. its either sacrifice standards or cost more to maintain.
The average cost of developing was sent skyrocketing by companies like EA who overspend millions and make it hard for startup companies to compete.
But as it stands, EA spent 20 years profiting even with the bad economy. last I checked their fiscal year generated them a 15% increase in sales equaling 4.212 Billion in Net Revenue. (thats after the big wigs get their 800K salaries) ripping off gamers is not necessary at all for them to maintain their current standards.
I think that u fail to mention that PC gamers still pay subscription fees for their MMO's of their chioce.
Now i think with this new fee we as gamers can and should expect a higher standard of online content
and gameplay. Also what can you say about their game lineup this year it is huge. so if gamers want in they gotta pay. As someone once told me "If a game is good people would pay whatever it costs to play".
A fee for an MMO is a bit different. Keeping the servers up for a game like WOW, maintaining it, adding content to it, patching it , ETC is a huge and expensive task. WOW, employs thousands of people and there isn't a new version of the game every year. IF you're going to pay a subscription fee, that's the kind of service you should expect.
The Subscription Fee EA is asking for in this case is not the same at all. the servers will be shut down, and a lot of the "Content" they're offering is already content that has been free for years.
Seriously though, each of their games is $60 and then on top of that they have DLC for a price. and now a subscription fee on top of that. to have full access to games? if you think thats fair, you're crazy.
I hate this whole online pass idea that has gotten into developers head. I agree with you man. It's a shame that EA does this and takes the hard earned money of people or kids parents lol. I myself don't play madden or any EA sport title specifically for that very reason. One time i went and rented Crysis 2 just for the single player aspect of the game and it happened to have and unused online pass with it. I didn't use it to say the least. I guess i will stick with Naughty Dog and my Uncharted
I hate this whole online pass idea that has gotten into developers head. I agree with you man. It's a shame that EA does this and takes the hard earned money of people or kids parents lol. I myself don't play madden or any EA sport title specifically for that very reason. One time i went and rented Crysis 2 just for the single player aspect of the game and it happened to have and unused online pass with it. I didn't use it to say the least. I guess i will stick with Naughty Dog and my Uncharted
I remember nearly a decade ago.... gaming companies tried to offer as much as they could in each game they released. They didn't give us last years game and make us pay for this years game's extra features...
This online pass is total bs. However I do support needing a $10.00 code to play online for the first year a game is out (Should come free w/nw copy) How many times can a copy of madden get passed around in a year. Sales numbers for developers drop every time you buy a used game that you can buy new. Between Turbine, Steam, and Impulse, I choose Impulse the best of the 3. They let you know upfront about DRM and I can buy gmes frm defunct Developers Or games that never make it to store shelves.
You can blame Gamestop with its $5 off if you buy the game used. ( my focus is on Madden in particular). After 2-3 weeks after the game has been out you can get it used at $5 dollars off. The problem with it was that meant the sale didn't count twords total sales for the developers, Only counted for Gamestop. If my memory is correct they decided to give every new game an online code to allow the person who bought a new copy the online play.
Anyone who bought a used copy would have to pay a $10.00 fee to get that online code. Since the sale of a used game (that is for the most part new to the market even after 2-3 weeks) Does not count as a sale for the Developers or " the publisher " EA in this case.
I understand how the retail and buy sell trade industry work. Probably a lot better than you do since I'm deeply involved in it as a video game retailer of both new and used games. Like I said before, "for my views on Online Pass, feel free to check out my videos 152 and 154. "
Hard copies of games are the best way to prevent greed from companies like EA, I never had a subscription to them, but now I will never fall victim to their little marketing ploy. All I need is an old school system to keep me going and enjoy the good old days of when before companies decided to rip off gamers of their money. You sir make an interesting point, it was well thought out and it made a whole lot of sence.
I despise EA for what they have done, and are doing to the industry. If they hadn't bought BioWare, I would have stopped playing their games long ago. Once I get ME3, I don't think I'll ever buy another EA game.
EA, What to say about them. EA has been pulling shit for a while that makes you wanna wipe your ass with their games. Now don't doubt me, I have a lot of EA titles sitting on my shelf, that I have not picked up since the SIMS 3 incident. The Sims 3 incident was where they put a button up on the SIMS 3 site where you could get free points and banned all Sims 3 players who used it. Yeah. Not to keen on EA at this point.
The sad truth is that there will be gamers like yourself & me who bitch & moan but it wont make a bit of difference because the bulk of gamers will still pay up to play the game, It would be great for us all now & for the future if we all take action if this time we actually did 100% or as near as boycott there games,But it will never happen...
The physical copy point is the only reason why I HATE dlc, the only dlc that I gladly bought was the elder scrolls shivering isles and knights of the nine and everything.
I'm totally with you, especially when it comes to digital distribution. All the stuff we're fed about how digital distribution will be so convenient and cheap for the consumer is nonsense. The more power publishers have over our content, the more they screw us.
@OmegaBlades Rockstar Pass can't be consider as Online Pass. Is not even on the new copy of LA Noire, Is more like a deal to get all the DLC at a cheaper price.
a digital copy? oh sweet so now if i pay u half the price of a game with online pass added to a sixty dollar game i get a worth hunk of shit wasted? wow such a good deal im gonna ignore it and say we send the guy incharge of this bull all the emails we can
Last EA game I bought was Spore. Its been a few years. As for Digital Downloading games? The only games I buy off Steam are the $10 indie games like Audiosurf or Magicka. Games that have a small development team. They have to get their foot in the door somewhere. However, I agree with you. I would much rather help out my local game store by buying a hard copy of a game and perhaps trade it later. Helping out small businesses theses days are what I wish more people would strive for these days.
I never fucking buy EA games they just greedy fuckers,and i miss playing a RESIDENT EVIL and getting a REWARD for beating it,you should make a video about CAPCOM, they are the number 1 sinners in fucking us with new games of old franchises that are not what they used to be, just look at resident evil, and how they take a decade to make a sequel MVC3
AE IS a company and IS trying to make money. the problem is that they already do that when you by the game, and if they had real DLC like that of Oblivions xpacks then no harm there. So if other game companies can make their money with only those sources why cant AE. paying over $100 to get what came with the game for $40-50 5 years ago is not flying with me! Screw AE, I havent bought anything from them or any company that does anything similar since i FIRST heard about this!
Aren't EA the ones that buy out the "edgy independents" and then stop them from making there great games [anymore]..... should you really be THAT surprised?
i bought a copy of Bulletstorm epic edition for the early week of gears of war 3 beta. i traded in my copy of crap ops, i needed that week of beta. but when i turned it on and was meet with the "activate your ea online pass" it made me sick. like you said 60 bucks for a game, and i don't have the right to take it to a friends and show him the online? i already pledge to not even buy a game if its published by EA. Let that be heard developers. if EA is on your box. i wont be buying your game.
Now I think you have some good points, but calling for people to hate on and attack people who pay for EA's ridiculous subscription service is going too far. That's not a protest to EA, that's just attacking your fellow gamers who just happen to buy a subscription service that you don't think is worth their time or money. You'd be better off writing to EA or just telling people why you think this is a bad thing for the industry (like this video), rather than inciting hate or violence.
As far as I'm concerned, anyone who buys into this subscription will be hurting their fellow gamers. Like "Scabs" during a strike, "Crossing a picket line can result in passive and/or active retaliation against that working person."
in my eyes, they are traitors to the cause. I'm not saying hurt anyone in Real life, or inflict harm upon a living person. But I will support virtual attacks any day of the week.
Meanwhile, I've already written EA and I will continue to inform gamers.
While I personally can't endorse any sort of cyber-bullying or online "hate crimes", I still agree with you that this is something that gamers need to know about and that we can't support. I can imagine that this is an intensely personal issue for you since this sort of subscription could have any impact on your livelihood (i.e. effect on used game sales). I still have a ton of respect for you, and I look forward to your videos about the gaming industry in the future :)
@L1Games Don't like sports games (really why not just get your ass off the couch) Sometimes I'm glad I don't have a system modern enough to go online (with the exception of the PS2 slim- which doesn't have the modem... and I don't think I would fork out for it now) BUT I wouldn't say that the people are traitors, or assholes or anything like that. I prefer math flunkies, dumb asses, mouth breathers, one more brain cell and it'd be lonely, wheel is turning but hamster is dead.... make your own
you know im starting to wonder how much bull e.a. has up its sleeve because i did some research and ea is the one that brought us shaq fu now they're extorting it more by making games hugely priced with fees and passes i say we go back shaq fu had a little issue people rounded up the copies of the cartridges and they burnt them blew them up destroyed in any means possible so lets get something like this back together
I always felt bad that people hated Shaq Fu so much. It was only published by EA. it was actually developed by one of my all time favorite developers, Delphine Software . they also made Out of this world, Flashback, and Fade to black. Some of my favorite games of all time.
That said, instead of burning games, I say we spread the word and educate our fellow gamers. tell them whats happening so they can spread the word too. That way, EA burns itself:)
Im excited for the new battlefield and the next mass effect of course I am but lets face it.. In the past few years EA have been trying to scrape the bottom of the barrel putting millions in a WoW copy mmo (Swtor) trying to put fees here and there, putting the emphasis on "selling" games instead of actually trying to make good ones, rushing shit is never profitable.. Again with BF3, they said itl be the "next CoD killer" instead of trying to kill games, just make better ones for christ sakes.
Buy a game if you think it's cool. but don't pay an EXTRA dime to them for more content, subscription fees, or an online pass. I'm not tryong to put them on the poor house or tell people not to play any specific game. My point is that if you support the extra fees, then they will do nothing but become more and more common place. next thing you know, everything will be at an extra cost.
@L1Games it's funny, ea is like mcdonalds. they are the first to start making less and less on there food but add more to the price. and now you look everyone is the food service is doing it. -.- ea need someone who isn't money grubbing in the ceo seat.
@proceo12 not any more than others though, the ones in waw were huge compared to the first, but first strike not really much more. different backgrounds and textures but not really. new.
and not really so a lot of people like zombies, but there are a lot who dont realy like it.
I hate EA you buy a game for $60 and you think that you had bought the full game. I was tricked by them and found out that the extra content I had to pay for, that sucks. The extra content should be free since i paid a premium for the game and it feels like it is incomplete. I hate EA for that. Don't buy any games from EA.
All this crap does is makes my want to say screw it and not buy console games! The games I have I have fun playing! Most times I pull out the classic consoles because the games were fun! Now it's all, "Moar Realism" on mythical creatures or "Moar Blood!" from a gunshot wound. Talk about BORING! When a console game forces you to buy a game-specific subscription it's gone too far. Good thing I hate sports games, but now I won't buy the new NFS. How's that for protecting investments.
now that most games have the online pass do you just not play new games anymore and also here is a page to all games and co that have onine pas
GamerBarney 2 weeks ago
Only one company can save us... Nintendo.
brandon2003alt 3 weeks ago
You are my role model. I support you 100%.
87654Luigi 1 month ago
Will be pirating Ea titles from now on. Ubisoft is next if they dont get their act together. DRM already aggravated me with assassins creed.
I better not see a online code for Ghost recon and rainbow six.
69rigby 1 month ago
Thank you
I heard Battlefield 3 (EA) would require you to have an activation code for online or make you buy one. I decided not to get the game as online is half of Battlefield.
melonade97 1 month ago
09:19 THANKS YOU!!
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redman7771red17 2 months ago 6
l1 games are right why now games are forcing to make you pay one day you have money and then you see ea luaghing at you for giving away your life savings to them fuck ea sports
benblanco1000 2 months ago
The thing is there's too many gamers who aren't aware of this and EA wants it that way.
In the comments I see Uncharted 3 and BF3? I didn't even know I just see the title not the company.We have to spread the word..this awareness of EA stealing us.
TheDonsketch 2 months ago
@TheDonsketch So true there are too many uninformed gamer that are just buying into this and most do not even know what this is until recently now with the release of BF3 Muzz you need to do another video on the online pass man.
opp861 1 week ago
12 people dont want better value for money
warringah08 2 months ago
The thing is people say "I'm tired of this crap" but in the end won't do anything to stop it. Only if there were more people willing to take action, like L1Games. I bought uncharted 3 and assassin's creed revelations, used, uncharted 3 for like 50 bucks, and now i have to pay $10 extra for each game to play something that should be free. I always bragged to my cousin about how I could play free on the PS3, while he had to pay on Xbox, well now my point is invalid.
CHErevolucionDJC 2 months ago
That was an awesome rant. You just won yourself another sub.
Psycosis901 2 months ago
@Psycosis901
Thanks! Glad you liked it:)
L1Games 2 months ago
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"Remember when you got this stuff for beating Resident Evil? All of that work and time put into the game so you can have that rocket launcher and the new costume? Now you're not rewarded for gaming....you're charged an extra fee"
That line alone just makes me yearn for the days when gaming was actually complete and rewarding. What happened to those rewards? We pay for them now. And parts of the game that SHOULD HAVE been included. fuck
Zunesrthebest 3 months ago
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Zunesrthebest 3 months ago
If this is still going on with EA then I c the problem ppl hav had with EA working with Nintendo on the Wii U's online service.
SonicOmega5000 4 months ago
EA is full of shit... i have stopped buying their games and if they start dominating 100% of all game industry i will stop buying games, that how much i hate them
i would be ready to give up gaming if ea would die
doonn1994 4 months ago
i have said this before but muzz, you saying we are going to be right back into 1983 just proves my point even more. NINTENDO will save us once again. :)
TheAnGryPOolMaN 4 months ago
For some reason, i find your videos really good to listen to when I'm doing homework.
Umbra360 5 months ago
Why does EA publish Mass Effect 3? GRRRR!!!!!!
mccor002 5 months ago 2
@mccor002 give your money to nintendo instead
TheAnGryPOolMaN 4 months ago
:( I noW feel bad for wanting BF3 and FIFA 12 :(
UpTheGunners9595 6 months ago
I never thought I would be punished for being a loyal gamer for 20+ years of my life???
deadsyXXX 6 months ago
@deadsyXXX give your money to nintendo instead
TheAnGryPOolMaN 4 months ago
i will NEVER give up my option to physically own my own games, that I spent my hard-earned money on. Fuck ea, forever
deadsyXXX 6 months ago
Gaming is on it's death bed.
ItalianAttitude5o4 6 months ago
@ItalianAttitude5o4 yep cod has its "elite" service and EA with the online pass , subscription fees, developers and publishers dont look in to value of the game
RepukkenMisogi63 4 months ago
your video somehow really touched me , all of this is making me think : were is going the game industry ,with the price of the game going up and up and all those little "tricks" they do to suck more money from us every years , what will it be next , they'll charge us more just because we want to get our game on physical discs , pretending they do this because its going to save the environment like they did with game manual ?
frommyeyesx 6 months ago
But the problem is that used games doesn't earn developers money.
gwsstar 6 months ago
@gwsstar
actually, thats how it may look sometimes, But we also have to consider that People Trade in old games to get new games. those are sales that developers wouldn't get if the consumer didn't have the $60 to blow on a game and was not abole to supplement this difference with used titles. This is just one way that we can see how the used game market does a lot to stimulate the sales of new games.
L1Games 6 months ago 9
@L1Games What do you think will happen to PC gaming?
LLOYD19851012 4 months ago
Rage are also using Online Pass to lock OFFLINE content. WTF?!
gwsstar 7 months ago
@gwsstar ROFL!
tjcivic4 7 months ago
@tjcivic4 Which means you have to use the online pass to unlock offline content.
gwsstar 7 months ago
Hell you also described crapcom in this video as well and it's a shame I use to love crapcom in the snes and ps1 eras
megamikex1 7 months ago
what does the douchebadge look like?
TheGamersEnjoyment 7 months ago
it happened. EA SPOrts season ticket.
fcuk you ea
heyheyhe0011 7 months ago
Is already happened.
gwsstar 7 months ago
EA's meaning of "Free" Fail.
gwsstar 7 months ago
only game i ever got that i didnt have a hard copy for was InFamous and thats because it was free from Sony
uber29 7 months ago
I'm glad I got the Mortal Kombat online pass for free.
TheSeanoftheBread 7 months ago
no way, they sell you the online pass with the game disc itself..its really forced on you ..its unavoidable...i don't really like playing online ...i wonder why i was forced to pay for the online pass.
prithwin 7 months ago
@prithwin And, it got worse, some parts of the OFFLINE STORY MODE are locked on RAGE if you don't have the online pass.
TechBoywii 3 months ago
Now their Revenue has dropped to US$3.654 billion (FY 2010). Hope they drop more in FY 2011.
gwsstar 7 months ago
People it isnt only ea anymore wb games and just get it new
TheNikeairforce1s 7 months ago
LONG LIVE LEVEL 1 GAMES
PuffSmelly 7 months ago
Doosche badge lmao
danielkirk1 7 months ago
@MuffinDewz2 EA has added online pass to just about every one of their games. Battlefield 3 will be no exception:(
L1Games 8 months ago
Thanks To EA The Gaming Industry In Going Down The Shitter!!! Excuse My French
DaggaSwagga 8 months ago
AMEN BROTHER!!!!!!!!!! AMEN FUCK EA FUCK EM
THEDUKE4242 8 months ago 11
now sony i was thinking about cancelling my UC3 preorder but the thing is that i don't really sale my games and i tried not to buy ea games but i had failed i bought fifa and crysis 2 and ME2 and the one was used and fortunately the pass still works and i also haven't used my fifa 11 pass yet but fuck them thay now they are not loosing money at all but they don't care they really pissed me off
TheHeas92 8 months ago
@TheHeas92 Crysis 2 doesn't have online pass. Crytek says so.
gwsstar 7 months ago
@gwsstar but they release a "exclusive" content if you bought it near launch date they call it "limited Edition"
TheHeas92 7 months ago
@TheHeas92 They using the same tactics like any other games.
gwsstar 7 months ago
@gwsstar their tactitics is to say that its a limited edition just so that you can get the game at launch day and they will get more money thats what they are doing its a dirty trick just like special dlc wit some retailers if you preorder there
TheHeas92 7 months ago
@TheHeas92 But at least they(Crytek) didn't block multiplayer content. Even without the DLC you still can play online without restrictions.
gwsstar 7 months ago
@gwsstar that is true but that doesn't take away that EA cares less about the costumers they release some crapy games and we get punish for trying to get rid of it
TheHeas92 7 months ago
@TheHeas92 DLC is one thing, but blocking content from disc is another thing.
gwsstar 6 months ago
I WHOLEHEARTEDLY agree with you and I keep telling people the same thing. But they are ignorant and love to get screwed to put it lightly. I love video games and the games that have the pass are games I like. I also keep telling people that FIRST DAY sales makes or breaks a game. At that time the game is full price. So to express my dissatisfaction, I wait until that game gets to 40 dollars or below to buy it. So, there goes their first day profit! I buy games I know, new. EA lose among others.
hentaikage 8 months ago
Sony is apparently in on this whole "buy new or pay us $10 deal". I feel all is lost.
CrypticMantisTX55 8 months ago
The more i watch stuff like this the more i want to lose my self control, buy a nuke, and drop it on EA!!! Unfortunately i'm too nice for that now. =)
TheUnbiasedGamer 8 months ago
Hey Muzz...if I ever do my Video Game review show, mind if I use that "Douchebadge"? That is clever and I'll give you a shout out when I first mention it.
RedneckYachtClubber 8 months ago 6
@RedneckYachtClubber as long as I get credit as the one who coined the term. LOL
L1Games 8 months ago 4
The Videogame Crash of 2014
spax3fan 8 months ago
i agree with the digital copy of games is bs if i wan play my game at a buddy's i would have to take my console with me not i would much rather have a cartridge/disc so i cant trade if i decide i want to trade it to get some thing else and the guy at my local game stop try to get me to go with the psp go when i was buying the psp he was like its better and you dont have to worry about carry disc around
tauntdragoon 8 months ago
Muzz, I think I can tell you when we became nothing more then obedient puppets to EA and other groups I won't mention. When the new generation was born. Although I am part of this new generation the only people around me who play games are timid cowards that do whatever they're told and don't complain. Ignorant people like this are who are aiding EA in their attempt to earn as much as they can then turn their backs on games as a whole. These are the people ignorant enough to say "Get over it."
TheSeanoftheBread 8 months ago
im seriously comtemplating buying like Battlefield 3 idk wat to do muzz. help me
GamerBarney 8 months ago
You win an Internet for quoting John Steinbeck.
MOA2007BLG192Lb 8 months ago
i dont agree with the online pass , but come on , digital download is ok . U a lil bit greedy
JAKOB54 8 months ago
Noob: "Hey! Look at my Douchebadge!" =)
Kill the Douchebadge!!!! lol
Bobshnogen 9 months ago
The new mortal kombat has an online pass i found out you have to pay to activate it if you bought it used to play online. its just like the movie company that do not really want you to let your pal borrow your DVD or let someone borrow a CD they want you to buy it all over it again now its expanding to video game......
opp861 9 months ago
Im not even buying BF3 cause of EA...
Umbra360 9 months ago
I'm waiting for the day when Blizzard makes starcraft 2 a subscription game to support their servers. hopefully their expansions make enough to where they won't have to do that.
I'm not a hardcore EA gamer anymore so it's not hurting me yet.
WestVfan 9 months ago
I can't believe that Activision hasn't jumped on board yet.
sdleg2008 9 months ago
@sdleg2008 Yes, they have it's called "Call of Duty Elite" D:
Samianator 9 months ago
Liked and Subscribed for this. THANK YOU. SOOOOO Much. This is exactly the kind of video I've been waiting for. I'm tired of paying $130 for a game that 'cost' $60. This is all I talk about with my friends.
GoronRob 9 months ago
This is bull. I have not bought any game that has online pass, partly because i dont have the money to go out and buy all the games i want new. And honestly, the online pass has pretty much scared me away from the used market. I'll probably get hate for this but i dont care, the online pass is mostly anyone's fault who cant go a year without buying a new damn sports game. if you would have boycotted a new sports title for a year, we probably wouldnt have the pass, at least not to this extent.
honor1217 9 months ago
@honor1217 Do you not see what he's saying? He's saying that EA has been planning this and it will soon come reality in one way or another. Companies have already started doing this, like he said, with games like Mortal Kombat. In 1983, the public got sick and tried of the same crap, money being wasted, if things go the way they are then the public will get sick of money being wasted on things that should be free. That's what he's saying and it all makes perfect sense.
SnifitDude 9 months ago
And you wnat to know something funny?, i tried to buy BF BC2 recently at microsoft's games on demand, EA Video game that comes with their stupid "VIP PASS", and guess what? if you want to play online with that game you're buying at microsoft's games on demand, you have to buy their stupid "VIP PASS", yes, you must pay for the game and then pay for their online pass, F.U EA = ) .
shooton1 9 months ago
So is the goal of your msg only telling us not to support EA? What about other gaming companies that follow pursuit to EA's unethical business tactic? Particularly the ones that aren't in much financial success as EA.
I just want to makes sure because from what I learn from your vid (as well from your past vids) EA is already in huge financial success even before the online pass yet they are overdoing with the online pass now.
Gangalore 9 months ago
@Gangalore
I never said not to support EA. I say don't support things like online pass or a subscription fee.
L1Games 9 months ago 7
@L1Games you may not say stop support of EA but ill say boycott EA becuse of them we dont have other NFL football games from other companys all we have is Madden and im sick of it...for the most part thay have a monopoly on sports games also thanks to them SONY in Sept will do a online pass code if the Rumor is true witch makes no sense why thay would do that thanks to Peter Moore he killed my favorite console of all time the SEGA Dreamcast and now he wants to kill gameing..
kevinsvideogameworld 7 months ago
@kevinsvideogameworld Peter Moore wants to kill gaming in the way we know it.............it seems that video game companys want to be digtal or be part of the cloud if this happens im retireing from gameing ...... its bull shit this is not the 1980's so once that change happens i cant image an other nintendo will save us this time it will be GAME OVER MAN ! please people BOYCOTT companys like EA i dont want anymore CHANGE if it's not broken dont try to fix it??? cause your making thing worse
kevinsvideogameworld 7 months ago
the dilemma is not as simple as boycotting. the difference between the 1983 to now is the cost of developing a game. we all know we are still in a rot with economy, game companies are only trying to maintain the same level of budget without sacrificing the quality of the game. in order to do so, they charge us with bs subs. today, the gamer community standards are high. its either sacrifice standards or cost more to maintain.
tkoizumi 10 months ago
@tkoizumi
The average cost of developing was sent skyrocketing by companies like EA who overspend millions and make it hard for startup companies to compete.
But as it stands, EA spent 20 years profiting even with the bad economy. last I checked their fiscal year generated them a 15% increase in sales equaling 4.212 Billion in Net Revenue. (thats after the big wigs get their 800K salaries) ripping off gamers is not necessary at all for them to maintain their current standards.
L1Games 10 months ago
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resmaster2 8 months ago
@L1Games
I think that u fail to mention that PC gamers still pay subscription fees for their MMO's of their chioce.
Now i think with this new fee we as gamers can and should expect a higher standard of online content
and gameplay. Also what can you say about their game lineup this year it is huge. so if gamers want in they gotta pay. As someone once told me "If a game is good people would pay whatever it costs to play".
resmaster2 8 months ago
@resmaster2
A fee for an MMO is a bit different. Keeping the servers up for a game like WOW, maintaining it, adding content to it, patching it , ETC is a huge and expensive task. WOW, employs thousands of people and there isn't a new version of the game every year. IF you're going to pay a subscription fee, that's the kind of service you should expect.
L1Games 8 months ago
@L1Games
The Subscription Fee EA is asking for in this case is not the same at all. the servers will be shut down, and a lot of the "Content" they're offering is already content that has been free for years.
Seriously though, each of their games is $60 and then on top of that they have DLC for a price. and now a subscription fee on top of that. to have full access to games? if you think thats fair, you're crazy.
L1Games 8 months ago
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resmaster2 8 months ago
so how long until you have to pay to subscribe to a persons youtube channel
D4rkL3610N 10 months ago
Well that's just nice. It posted my comment twice. lol
chrislong262000 10 months ago
I hate this whole online pass idea that has gotten into developers head. I agree with you man. It's a shame that EA does this and takes the hard earned money of people or kids parents lol. I myself don't play madden or any EA sport title specifically for that very reason. One time i went and rented Crysis 2 just for the single player aspect of the game and it happened to have and unused online pass with it. I didn't use it to say the least. I guess i will stick with Naughty Dog and my Uncharted
chrislong262000 10 months ago
I hate this whole online pass idea that has gotten into developers head. I agree with you man. It's a shame that EA does this and takes the hard earned money of people or kids parents lol. I myself don't play madden or any EA sport title specifically for that very reason. One time i went and rented Crysis 2 just for the single player aspect of the game and it happened to have and unused online pass with it. I didn't use it to say the least. I guess i will stick with Naughty Dog and my Uncharted
chrislong262000 10 months ago
I remember nearly a decade ago.... gaming companies tried to offer as much as they could in each game they released. They didn't give us last years game and make us pay for this years game's extra features...
MattBirduni 10 months ago
this shits getting like rockefeller... fuck ea
ultrafan8881 10 months ago
This online pass is total bs. However I do support needing a $10.00 code to play online for the first year a game is out (Should come free w/nw copy) How many times can a copy of madden get passed around in a year. Sales numbers for developers drop every time you buy a used game that you can buy new. Between Turbine, Steam, and Impulse, I choose Impulse the best of the 3. They let you know upfront about DRM and I can buy gmes frm defunct Developers Or games that never make it to store shelves.
TheGamersReportCard 10 months ago
@TheGamersReportCard
You say the online pass is BS...then you say why paying for an online pass ($10 fee is ok.) I don't get it.
anyway, for my views on Online Pass, feel free to check out my videos 152 and 154.
L1Games 10 months ago
You can blame Gamestop with its $5 off if you buy the game used. ( my focus is on Madden in particular). After 2-3 weeks after the game has been out you can get it used at $5 dollars off. The problem with it was that meant the sale didn't count twords total sales for the developers, Only counted for Gamestop. If my memory is correct they decided to give every new game an online code to allow the person who bought a new copy the online play.
TheGamersReportCard 10 months ago
Anyone who bought a used copy would have to pay a $10.00 fee to get that online code. Since the sale of a used game (that is for the most part new to the market even after 2-3 weeks) Does not count as a sale for the Developers or " the publisher " EA in this case.
TheGamersReportCard 10 months ago
@TheGamersReportCard
I understand how the retail and buy sell trade industry work. Probably a lot better than you do since I'm deeply involved in it as a video game retailer of both new and used games. Like I said before, "for my views on Online Pass, feel free to check out my videos 152 and 154. "
L1Games 10 months ago
Hard copies of games are the best way to prevent greed from companies like EA, I never had a subscription to them, but now I will never fall victim to their little marketing ploy. All I need is an old school system to keep me going and enjoy the good old days of when before companies decided to rip off gamers of their money. You sir make an interesting point, it was well thought out and it made a whole lot of sence.
Kyleje03 10 months ago
First they came for the Douchebadges and I said nothing because I had no douchebadge.
thadreazie 10 months ago
I dont pay any fees on pc
xXshermanaterXx 10 months ago
i will never buy a online pass. the only time i play a EA game online is when i buy it new and get the online pass with it.
thedeadkillerhobo1 10 months ago
I despise EA for what they have done, and are doing to the industry. If they hadn't bought BioWare, I would have stopped playing their games long ago. Once I get ME3, I don't think I'll ever buy another EA game.
Saber0003 10 months ago
Greed is also one of the 7 deadly sins...gamers who buy into EA's bs are only making the greed worse...
Inuyashafangirl2back 10 months ago
towards the middle it looks like you could dub the audio over with some eminem hahaha cuz his hand movements and face expressions
slapthesausage 10 months ago
I already boycott everything EA for 10 yrs now .
number9ark1 10 months ago
[...And the crowd chants]
"Muzz! Muzz! Muzz! Muzz! Muzz!"
TheBlock0786 10 months ago
So, are you not a fan of Steam?
Sorablade14 10 months ago
@Sorablade14
not particularly.
L1Games 10 months ago
EA, What to say about them. EA has been pulling shit for a while that makes you wanna wipe your ass with their games. Now don't doubt me, I have a lot of EA titles sitting on my shelf, that I have not picked up since the SIMS 3 incident. The Sims 3 incident was where they put a button up on the SIMS 3 site where you could get free points and banned all Sims 3 players who used it. Yeah. Not to keen on EA at this point.
anorganoidnamednova 10 months ago
The sad truth is that there will be gamers like yourself & me who bitch & moan but it wont make a bit of difference because the bulk of gamers will still pay up to play the game, It would be great for us all now & for the future if we all take action if this time we actually did 100% or as near as boycott there games,But it will never happen...
paulspydar 10 months ago
@paulspydar
in actuality, all it would take is the participation of about a 30% who refuse to buy EA titles. that would shatter EA.
L1Games 10 months ago
The physical copy point is the only reason why I HATE dlc, the only dlc that I gladly bought was the elder scrolls shivering isles and knights of the nine and everything.
CraigGoins 10 months ago
I'm totally with you, especially when it comes to digital distribution. All the stuff we're fed about how digital distribution will be so convenient and cheap for the consumer is nonsense. The more power publishers have over our content, the more they screw us.
QueenOliver 10 months ago
I Hope Rockstar Games never does that!
2jmilligan 10 months ago
@2jmilligan Don't know about subscription base payment, but they did just announce a "Rockstar Pass" for L.A. Noire...
OmegaBlades 10 months ago
@OmegaBlades Rockstar Pass can't be consider as Online Pass. Is not even on the new copy of LA Noire, Is more like a deal to get all the DLC at a cheaper price.
gwsstar 7 months ago
I bought a used psp-2000 from my local Slackers gamestore, just so i wouldnt have to deal with the new psp's download only content.
theexpertmarksman 10 months ago
Holly shit dude! you have GREAT MAZINGER! I the wall i want!!!!!!!!!! By the way you are right. I am boycotting EA.
mrnice2770 10 months ago
EA & THQ = LJN
MrVideoman123456 10 months ago
EA = LJN
MrVideoman123456 10 months ago
a digital copy? oh sweet so now if i pay u half the price of a game with online pass added to a sixty dollar game i get a worth hunk of shit wasted? wow such a good deal im gonna ignore it and say we send the guy incharge of this bull all the emails we can
Mrshadowmind14 10 months ago
Last EA game I bought was Spore. Its been a few years. As for Digital Downloading games? The only games I buy off Steam are the $10 indie games like Audiosurf or Magicka. Games that have a small development team. They have to get their foot in the door somewhere. However, I agree with you. I would much rather help out my local game store by buying a hard copy of a game and perhaps trade it later. Helping out small businesses theses days are what I wish more people would strive for these days.
bottlecapbill19 10 months ago
I never fucking buy EA games they just greedy fuckers,and i miss playing a RESIDENT EVIL and getting a REWARD for beating it,you should make a video about CAPCOM, they are the number 1 sinners in fucking us with new games of old franchises that are not what they used to be, just look at resident evil, and how they take a decade to make a sequel MVC3
andree1991 10 months ago
EA can suck a dick.
daswolfman 10 months ago
EA fucked me hard
TGFTH 10 months ago
Shoot, remind me to show this to some of my fellow uni Game Design students, mate.
CM26617 10 months ago
AE IS a company and IS trying to make money. the problem is that they already do that when you by the game, and if they had real DLC like that of Oblivions xpacks then no harm there. So if other game companies can make their money with only those sources why cant AE. paying over $100 to get what came with the game for $40-50 5 years ago is not flying with me! Screw AE, I havent bought anything from them or any company that does anything similar since i FIRST heard about this!
Donthelppls 10 months ago
@Donthelppls Nice little rant, just one thing. The company is EA. not AE.
FlashAttackReviews 10 months ago
@FlashAttackReviews ya, i was mad and im surprised thats the only thing i misspelled or at least that you pointed out, but thanks anyway.
Donthelppls 10 months ago
just pirate it
Hidraga 10 months ago
Aren't EA the ones that buy out the "edgy independents" and then stop them from making there great games [anymore]..... should you really be THAT surprised?
sayastra 10 months ago
4:04 to 4:16 is so epic :D thats so gonna happend !!
Spookyz95 10 months ago
i boycotted ea and thq fuck em ill buy from valve and all the good stuff maybe some quantic dream or some nes
GamersCanGame 10 months ago
@jdelgado360 available for what? u hitting on me LOL just kidding
patgeta2678 10 months ago
I agree. Favorited.
kween1thang 10 months ago
I'm sad you have to pay $10.00 to play online for Mortal Kombat :'(
bam1293 10 months ago
Im gonna send you an I heart EA mug hehe... regardless I completely agree with you
shirtlesszigfee 10 months ago
seven people are douchebadges. :^)
bicuspidfish 10 months ago
Dude, you have my sword! Let's fight these monster corporations that just want to make profit without sending us the proper reward.
royojisan 10 months ago
i bought a copy of Bulletstorm epic edition for the early week of gears of war 3 beta. i traded in my copy of crap ops, i needed that week of beta. but when i turned it on and was meet with the "activate your ea online pass" it made me sick. like you said 60 bucks for a game, and i don't have the right to take it to a friends and show him the online? i already pledge to not even buy a game if its published by EA. Let that be heard developers. if EA is on your box. i wont be buying your game.
RAICANINE 10 months ago
7 people must work at EA!
kunoichixlover 10 months ago
I love the quote by John Steinbekc, it's actually something that is quite close to my heart. Keep on rocking Muzz! It's good to have you.
kamu100 10 months ago
Now I think you have some good points, but calling for people to hate on and attack people who pay for EA's ridiculous subscription service is going too far. That's not a protest to EA, that's just attacking your fellow gamers who just happen to buy a subscription service that you don't think is worth their time or money. You'd be better off writing to EA or just telling people why you think this is a bad thing for the industry (like this video), rather than inciting hate or violence.
McFool17 10 months ago
@McFool17
As far as I'm concerned, anyone who buys into this subscription will be hurting their fellow gamers. Like "Scabs" during a strike, "Crossing a picket line can result in passive and/or active retaliation against that working person."
in my eyes, they are traitors to the cause. I'm not saying hurt anyone in Real life, or inflict harm upon a living person. But I will support virtual attacks any day of the week.
Meanwhile, I've already written EA and I will continue to inform gamers.
L1Games 10 months ago 16
@L1Games
While I personally can't endorse any sort of cyber-bullying or online "hate crimes", I still agree with you that this is something that gamers need to know about and that we can't support. I can imagine that this is an intensely personal issue for you since this sort of subscription could have any impact on your livelihood (i.e. effect on used game sales). I still have a ton of respect for you, and I look forward to your videos about the gaming industry in the future :)
McFool17 10 months ago
@L1Games Don't like sports games (really why not just get your ass off the couch) Sometimes I'm glad I don't have a system modern enough to go online (with the exception of the PS2 slim- which doesn't have the modem... and I don't think I would fork out for it now) BUT I wouldn't say that the people are traitors, or assholes or anything like that. I prefer math flunkies, dumb asses, mouth breathers, one more brain cell and it'd be lonely, wheel is turning but hamster is dead.... make your own
sayastra 10 months ago
Coming this fall from EA... Girls will be Girls: The Game! Preorder now for free exclusive content that no one else will get!
*Free exclusive contented only available with payment of additional fee(s)
DrewtheMew 10 months ago
you know im starting to wonder how much bull e.a. has up its sleeve because i did some research and ea is the one that brought us shaq fu now they're extorting it more by making games hugely priced with fees and passes i say we go back shaq fu had a little issue people rounded up the copies of the cartridges and they burnt them blew them up destroyed in any means possible so lets get something like this back together
Mrshadowmind14 10 months ago
@Mrshadowmind14
I always felt bad that people hated Shaq Fu so much. It was only published by EA. it was actually developed by one of my all time favorite developers, Delphine Software . they also made Out of this world, Flashback, and Fade to black. Some of my favorite games of all time.
That said, instead of burning games, I say we spread the word and educate our fellow gamers. tell them whats happening so they can spread the word too. That way, EA burns itself:)
L1Games 10 months ago
Damn bro your anger grows exceedingly throughout the video. Good points though, don't buy into that shit
Willyson32 10 months ago
I agree with L1.
xblBridge 10 months ago
Im excited for the new battlefield and the next mass effect of course I am but lets face it.. In the past few years EA have been trying to scrape the bottom of the barrel putting millions in a WoW copy mmo (Swtor) trying to put fees here and there, putting the emphasis on "selling" games instead of actually trying to make good ones, rushing shit is never profitable.. Again with BF3, they said itl be the "next CoD killer" instead of trying to kill games, just make better ones for christ sakes.
Cyruur 10 months ago
@proceo12 are you going to buy battlefield 3 or the next cod
gamer81024 10 months ago
@proceo12
I didn't say that. I said
"Don't pay an extra dime to them for anything."
Buy a game if you think it's cool. but don't pay an EXTRA dime to them for more content, subscription fees, or an online pass. I'm not tryong to put them on the poor house or tell people not to play any specific game. My point is that if you support the extra fees, then they will do nothing but become more and more common place. next thing you know, everything will be at an extra cost.
L1Games 10 months ago
@L1Games it's funny, ea is like mcdonalds. they are the first to start making less and less on there food but add more to the price. and now you look everyone is the food service is doing it. -.- ea need someone who isn't money grubbing in the ceo seat.
IAMLH 10 months ago
What was that case at like 2:40?
HowPettyful 10 months ago
We already pay extra money for costumes on the disk already. Street fighter 4 and mvc3.
devilscry01 10 months ago
Fuck EA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tainerjas 10 months ago
@proceo12 not any more than others though, the ones in waw were huge compared to the first, but first strike not really much more. different backgrounds and textures but not really. new.
and not really so a lot of people like zombies, but there are a lot who dont realy like it.
hayamoto 10 months ago
I want that "DO NOT SUPPORT EA GAMES" emblem. That was pretty cool.
prelynmax 10 months ago
I would like to meet you someday, Muzz
skullcrusher301 10 months ago
I hate EA you buy a game for $60 and you think that you had bought the full game. I was tricked by them and found out that the extra content I had to pay for, that sucks. The extra content should be free since i paid a premium for the game and it feels like it is incomplete. I hate EA for that. Don't buy any games from EA.
mpillatzke 10 months ago
God i hate EA... (playing Medal of Honor online)... i bought the game used... yeah...
GREAWOUS 10 months ago
Good points as always on the heinous schemes of EA. Btw, are you wearing shades so we can't see your eyes reading your notes? lol.
Tmal10 10 months ago
All this crap does is makes my want to say screw it and not buy console games! The games I have I have fun playing! Most times I pull out the classic consoles because the games were fun! Now it's all, "Moar Realism" on mythical creatures or "Moar Blood!" from a gunshot wound. Talk about BORING! When a console game forces you to buy a game-specific subscription it's gone too far. Good thing I hate sports games, but now I won't buy the new NFS. How's that for protecting investments.
doom2ruler 10 months ago