Can the P238 be carried comfortably in a front pants pocket holster? I know there are smaller .380s but I like Sigs. Is this gun too heavy or bulky to carry in a pocket?
This little pistol rocks!! I just wish the all black versions were the same price as the two tone version. I think a kahr is my next gun possibly they are sweet little shooters. Check out my sig on my channel. I got rid of the two tone.
can i attach crimpson trace or any other quality laser sight??? i am looking to buy one and its kinda important 2 know given the price tag thanks 4 any help folks.
almost perfect gun, I would only prefer it to have no safety and dao. A 9mm the exact same size would nice too, but probably not practical which an aluminum receiver. Wait though, rohrbaugh makes a dao all steel 9mm about the same size... Can you do a review on that please that would be great.
Just bought a P238 HD at a gun show yesterday. Only shot 19 rounds so far but seems like a quality piece. The Heavy Duty versiopn adds 5 oz, but its sturdy and strong
I just got my Sig P238. I have been reading the owner's manual and checking out the features. I noticed something that perhaps someone out there can clarify.
With the safety on (up position) I can cock the hammer about 1/4 the way pull the trigger and the hammer will fall. It seems to fall hard enough to set off a round. Any one got an answer?
Ususally with the safety engaged there is a piece of metal that blocks the hammer from contacting the transfer bar. Thats how you can drop the hammer safely with a decocker.
I think it was just to show people the gun, it never really claimed anything else, nutnfancy does a very thorough review on it and it's about 37 min long
just looks and feels weird, i tried one out about a month ago, no recoil, but its heavey as shit, why waste on this when i can carry an lcp which weights 20 oz less, for the same wiegth i carry my kimber ultra carry
@GBZ10TROY I understand Browning didnt think it needed a thumb safety, his first prototype only had the grip safety, the Army made him add the thumb safety. Im with you GBZ10TROY, the first thing I noticed was no grip safety and my first thought was Its kinda pricey for a cheap imitation
I couldnt take it anymore. I picked up a can fusion paint and painted those god ugly plastic grips black that came with the gun. The original grips looked like a bar of soap. Maybe get some after market grips when they become available, Im sure there will be a market for them.
I wouldn't worry too much about the P238 not having a grip safety. My Browning Hi-Power doesn't have one either, and so far it's never made holes in anything I didn't intend for it to.
And yes, I carry it cocked and locked, as I would any single action auto.
Since I'm in need of a new "back pocket" gun, I think I'll have to look into buying one of these little Sigs....
I always hated the grip safety, but now that you mentioned dropping it. (as in WW2 situation) now I appreciate the grip safety. GOOD POINT ! Although removing it on a civilian ccw type weapon would be ok. Less parts, less weight etc. Let's see if Kimber comes out with a .380
ATTENTION, something aint right about that MsGogoli person, they been asking to buy a .22 on alot of diffrent youtube postings, they only just joined youtube a couple of weeks ago and that seems to be primary concern, FISHY!!!!
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why would you carry it cocked and locked? put one in the chamber, decock lever, top off magazine and your good. anyone in here ever have firearms training? or just babble about things they never practiced in field.
You can keep repeating your ignorant comment, but it doesn't change the fact of the pistol's design. A single action pistol is designed to be carried cocked and locked, properly holstered. Repeatedly showing your ignorance of firearms and lack of training doesn't negate this fact.
@sigcrazy7 - Old 1911 style carry, very intimidating to see in a holster. I've never been comfortable carrying a weapon like that. My M&P Smith Pin Fire when a round is in the chamber the pin is primed, so I never carry that. For carrying this type of single action only weapon, what's the huge deal carrying it loaded and hammer down safety off compared to loaded hammer at ready and safety on? You have to use your thumb to make it ready to fire one way or other? Just goes against the style?
There's a few reasons you should carry cocked & locked. First, a carry weapon should be ready to use. Second, lowering the hammer on a loaded chamber is dangerous. Third, on the series 70, there is no firing pin block. A lowered hammer could cause the gun to fire if dropped on the hammer. Those are three main ones there.
The M&P is a fine weapon to carry loaded. It has a plunger style pin block and trigger safely, and is designed to be carried loaded with a good holster.
@sigcrazy7 - Still say safety or pulling back hammer is the same motion, and some of the single or single/double's I've seen have a De Cocker built in to safely lower the hammer and put the gun on safe. Wasn't sure if their was a device like in my revolvers that kept the pin from touching the round unless the trigger was al the way back. That right their would be the only reason I didn't carry hammer down safety off. Thanks for that info.
Yeah one could decock the hammer manually if they wanted to... but then you'd have to add another step to your training to cock the hammer back manually when presenting the weapon to your target. I believe this is why the safety is placed where it is, allowing one to keep a firm grip of the weapon and disengage the safety quickly, and not having to worry about cocking the hammer back with your thumb. which would not allow you to hold a firm grip on target while you cock the hammer back.
Because that is how JMB designed the 1911 action to be carried. Decocking on a live shell is dangerous, plus you then have to cock it while under stress, risking an AD. You're the one that hasnt had any training on the 1911.
I have to disagree with the 1911 being "inferior". Though I do think that this gun is pretty pointless without a grip safety; carrying it cocked and locked could be dangerous. 1911's are best in thier full sized proportions, but that's my own oppinion and you can chose to disagree.
If the 220 and 232 are the "real" SIG designs, then what is the P210? Let's see, single action, single stack pistol with safety, carried cocked and locked, copied from the Petter patents with a Browning lockup. The original SIG was more like the P238 than the P220. More accurately, the P210 and P238 (or Mustang Colt) have many 1911 influences. The "original" SIG indeed.
That looks like a gadget or a keychain or something. 1911s are not supposed to be pocket guns. I do not see the design lending itsself well. Seems like a pretty good way to get your dick shot off though.
I would not have been able to put it down and just-walk-away...
Note on sites like GunBroker....prices and bids for vintage Colt Government Model .380s have dropped precipitously...was just recently folks were asking - and getting - $700-800 and up. I blame the economy and even more, this little jewel.....
i wish guns were legal in scotland cos that gun i would love to have
Lyc4n1121 2 months ago
Ignore the mall ninja heathens here on the tube, You're doing a good job, Keep up the videos, man!
EFG44 3 months ago
I even like that Sig.
SuperRip7 5 months ago
Can the P238 be carried comfortably in a front pants pocket holster? I know there are smaller .380s but I like Sigs. Is this gun too heavy or bulky to carry in a pocket?
rhcmlc 6 months ago
It's not like a 1911, it's a copy of the old Colt Mustang.
mrrightwing1000 8 months ago
@mrrightwing1000
It's very much like a 1911
GunWebsites 8 months ago 4
This little pistol rocks!! I just wish the all black versions were the same price as the two tone version. I think a kahr is my next gun possibly they are sweet little shooters. Check out my sig on my channel. I got rid of the two tone.
PapaGlock83 11 months ago
nice gun i might get this for my duty backup i was looking at that ruger lcp.i like all your videos they are really useful.
JudgementToday 1 year ago
wish they made this in 9mm and kept it the same size
reesie0414 1 year ago
@eastofakron2 yeah
meifert2 1 year ago
@eastofakron2
I would buy the Kahr over this
GunWebsites 1 year ago
@GunWebsites what turned you off about the Sig?
duke3oh8 1 year ago
i have a sig 230
superstickeyman456 1 year ago
This gun is reminicent of the Colt 380 pocketlite. Would be a good alternative for someone looking for the Colt. Probably high quality with Sig.
flabeachcomber 1 year ago 3
@flabeachcomber
A lot easier to find
GunWebsites 1 year ago
the sound was bad. i couldn't hear what you said :( what cal was it and what is the price?
dreamz20091 1 year ago
@dreamz20091 With respect, you could try the description.
IIMoses740II 1 year ago
How does this compare to the DB380? Price considered.
Alazkah 1 year ago
@Alazkah
hardly
GunWebsites 1 year ago
@GunWebsites Damn I thought this would be more expensive, $500 seems pretty reasonable.
Alazkah 1 year ago
@Alazkah shoot this then shoot the DB380....you will laugh at the difference
meifert2 1 year ago
can i attach crimpson trace or any other quality laser sight??? i am looking to buy one and its kinda important 2 know given the price tag thanks 4 any help folks.
pkmaok 1 year ago
almost perfect gun, I would only prefer it to have no safety and dao. A 9mm the exact same size would nice too, but probably not practical which an aluminum receiver. Wait though, rohrbaugh makes a dao all steel 9mm about the same size... Can you do a review on that please that would be great.
sytilife08 1 year ago
Just bought a P238 HD at a gun show yesterday. Only shot 19 rounds so far but seems like a quality piece. The Heavy Duty versiopn adds 5 oz, but its sturdy and strong
jolow2 1 year ago
I just got my Sig P238. I have been reading the owner's manual and checking out the features. I noticed something that perhaps someone out there can clarify.
With the safety on (up position) I can cock the hammer about 1/4 the way pull the trigger and the hammer will fall. It seems to fall hard enough to set off a round. Any one got an answer?
P51Dwarbird 2 years ago
Ususally with the safety engaged there is a piece of metal that blocks the hammer from contacting the transfer bar. Thats how you can drop the hammer safely with a decocker.
rangerdanger222 2 years ago
I think it was just to show people the gun, it never really claimed anything else, nutnfancy does a very thorough review on it and it's about 37 min long
alreadyplatinum2007 2 years ago
@ kaos3124
Really?
Where did we claim to be the best video reviews?
Where did we claim to do all shooting reviews??
You are the one who clicked on a 1 minute video and expected it to be "the best"
It don't slice bread or give you better gas mileage either in case you were expecting that too
GunWebsites 2 years ago 4
GunWebsites,
You literally beat me to saying nearly exactly what I would have rebutted with.
Once again... Well done and thank you for the quality post.
Props for keeping your cool.
LordTio3 2 years ago 3
LOL, thanks again for the support
GunWebsites 2 years ago
Better review in 50 seconds of this outstanding weapon than the dozen or so amateurs have attempted in several hours on other channels.
Great work and thanks for the quality post.
~LordTio
LordTio3 2 years ago 3
thanks
GunWebsites 2 years ago
just looks and feels weird, i tried one out about a month ago, no recoil, but its heavey as shit, why waste on this when i can carry an lcp which weights 20 oz less, for the same wiegth i carry my kimber ultra carry
JackSureshot 2 years ago
@GBZ10TROY I understand Browning didnt think it needed a thumb safety, his first prototype only had the grip safety, the Army made him add the thumb safety. Im with you GBZ10TROY, the first thing I noticed was no grip safety and my first thought was Its kinda pricey for a cheap imitation
frankl1955 2 years ago
I couldnt take it anymore. I picked up a can fusion paint and painted those god ugly plastic grips black that came with the gun. The original grips looked like a bar of soap. Maybe get some after market grips when they become available, Im sure there will be a market for them.
frankl1955 2 years ago
It does not need one because the trigger pull is between 71/2 Lbs to 8Lbs. Its not the same as the 1911 pistol where you have a light 5lbs pull.
kolyakolya 2 years ago
I wouldn't worry too much about the P238 not having a grip safety. My Browning Hi-Power doesn't have one either, and so far it's never made holes in anything I didn't intend for it to.
And yes, I carry it cocked and locked, as I would any single action auto.
Since I'm in need of a new "back pocket" gun, I think I'll have to look into buying one of these little Sigs....
Jamie41963 2 years ago 4
From what I was told it also was added in an effort to stop inexperienced shooters from accidental discharges
GunWebsites 2 years ago
I always hated the grip safety, but now that you mentioned dropping it. (as in WW2 situation) now I appreciate the grip safety. GOOD POINT ! Although removing it on a civilian ccw type weapon would be ok. Less parts, less weight etc. Let's see if Kimber comes out with a .380
cartoonguy2002 2 years ago
Good point on the Kimber, they are about the only company to not make one, LOL
GunWebsites 2 years ago
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carrying a single action cocked is just stupid
ReplacingBox 2 years ago
Its stupid only for people that dont know anything about guns.
kolyakolya 2 years ago
Saw one at my local gun shop and they said it was the last one they had...
but they had gotten 5 in yesterday and they cost about $700 each. I wanted one but that's just too much to pay for a pocket .380 IMO.
ManiacMarauder01 2 years ago 4
You still looking for one? how maney do you want? I got the two tone and the nitro black brand new. They are both under 500 dollars.
kolyakolya 2 years ago
ATTENTION, something aint right about that MsGogoli person, they been asking to buy a .22 on alot of diffrent youtube postings, they only just joined youtube a couple of weeks ago and that seems to be primary concern, FISHY!!!!
S1iccy 2 years ago
thanks for the info..
GunWebsites 2 years ago
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why would you carry it cocked and locked? put one in the chamber, decock lever, top off magazine and your good. anyone in here ever have firearms training? or just babble about things they never practiced in field.
bulldog44cal 2 years ago
What decock lever?
Because it is a single action pistol, condition one carry requires it be carried cocked. It seems you need a little training yourself.
sigcrazy7 2 years ago 7
@sigcrazy7 carrying cocked is stupid
ReplacingBox 1 year ago
@ReplacingBox
You can keep repeating your ignorant comment, but it doesn't change the fact of the pistol's design. A single action pistol is designed to be carried cocked and locked, properly holstered. Repeatedly showing your ignorance of firearms and lack of training doesn't negate this fact.
sigcrazy7 1 year ago 11
@sigcrazy7 - Old 1911 style carry, very intimidating to see in a holster. I've never been comfortable carrying a weapon like that. My M&P Smith Pin Fire when a round is in the chamber the pin is primed, so I never carry that. For carrying this type of single action only weapon, what's the huge deal carrying it loaded and hammer down safety off compared to loaded hammer at ready and safety on? You have to use your thumb to make it ready to fire one way or other? Just goes against the style?
vulpixgrant 8 months ago
@vulpixgrant
There's a few reasons you should carry cocked & locked. First, a carry weapon should be ready to use. Second, lowering the hammer on a loaded chamber is dangerous. Third, on the series 70, there is no firing pin block. A lowered hammer could cause the gun to fire if dropped on the hammer. Those are three main ones there.
The M&P is a fine weapon to carry loaded. It has a plunger style pin block and trigger safely, and is designed to be carried loaded with a good holster.
sigcrazy7 8 months ago
@sigcrazy7 - Still say safety or pulling back hammer is the same motion, and some of the single or single/double's I've seen have a De Cocker built in to safely lower the hammer and put the gun on safe. Wasn't sure if their was a device like in my revolvers that kept the pin from touching the round unless the trigger was al the way back. That right their would be the only reason I didn't carry hammer down safety off. Thanks for that info.
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sigcrazy7 1 year ago
Yeah one could decock the hammer manually if they wanted to... but then you'd have to add another step to your training to cock the hammer back manually when presenting the weapon to your target. I believe this is why the safety is placed where it is, allowing one to keep a firm grip of the weapon and disengage the safety quickly, and not having to worry about cocking the hammer back with your thumb. which would not allow you to hold a firm grip on target while you cock the hammer back.
shaokem 2 years ago
single actions don't have de-cocking levers
GunWebsites 2 years ago
You do realize this pistol is single action, right?
andrewjarvi 2 years ago
Because that is how JMB designed the 1911 action to be carried. Decocking on a live shell is dangerous, plus you then have to cock it while under stress, risking an AD. You're the one that hasnt had any training on the 1911.
johnamcf 2 years ago 2
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MsGogoli 2 years ago
lol
1plkiller 2 years ago
Yet another right handed only gun. Congrats Sig you alienated the southpaws. Useless YAWN.
ohioleadslinger 2 years ago 2
Century old "inferior" design? Well, your vast infinite collection of firearms science precedes you, sir. By the way, your Glock is showing...
manglermagoo 2 years ago
Uh. Incorrect. I have a 220 and 232. Real SIG designs. This is a joke.
I hate Glocks. Plastic garbage. And yes, it's a century old inferior design. Cocked and locked is stupid, and it doesn't even have a grip safety.
loboguara1 2 years ago
I have to disagree with the 1911 being "inferior". Though I do think that this gun is pretty pointless without a grip safety; carrying it cocked and locked could be dangerous. 1911's are best in thier full sized proportions, but that's my own oppinion and you can chose to disagree.
flashbng123 2 years ago
If the 220 and 232 are the "real" SIG designs, then what is the P210? Let's see, single action, single stack pistol with safety, carried cocked and locked, copied from the Petter patents with a Browning lockup. The original SIG was more like the P238 than the P220. More accurately, the P210 and P238 (or Mustang Colt) have many 1911 influences. The "original" SIG indeed.
I'm just sayin...
sigcrazy7 2 years ago
That looks like a gadget or a keychain or something. 1911s are not supposed to be pocket guns. I do not see the design lending itsself well. Seems like a pretty good way to get your dick shot off though.
JonJon95GT 2 years ago
Cocked and locked for a pocket pistol?
Well, that's pretty idiotic. Why didn't SIG scale down the 232 instead of copying a century old inferior design?
loboguara1 2 years ago
I didn't want to be the first one to say it.. but that was always my concern with the mini Colt too.. No grip safety either..
I haven't shot one yet, I might be missing something so I'm reserving judgement on this one until I get it on the range
GunWebsites 2 years ago
HAH! I was going to buy a Micro Aimpoint T1 for my AK...may have to reconsider......
oldcorps76 2 years ago
I would not have been able to put it down and just-walk-away...
Note on sites like GunBroker....prices and bids for vintage Colt Government Model .380s have dropped precipitously...was just recently folks were asking - and getting - $700-800 and up. I blame the economy and even more, this little jewel.....
oldcorps76 2 years ago
It was not too difficult, but only because they weren't selling them, LOL
GunWebsites 2 years ago
thanks, we are happy to post these... now we are waiting to SHOOT one already, LOL
GunWebsites 2 years ago
the mags looks like it will fit into a colt mustang. I have a mustang, I hope the mags are interchangeable
stevo642007 2 years ago
I think so too, but I'm not holding my breath
GunWebsites 2 years ago
A buddy of mine said his old Mustang mags fit in this Sig.....they just stick out a little out of the bottom.
LovinThaDee 2 years ago
That's cool, good to know
GunWebsites 2 years ago
Can't wait for this piece to be widely available. Been itching to see a video of it, thanks!
DarthPete1981 2 years ago 3
Awesome summer CCW option. Any idea on MSRP?
TVRf4N 2 years ago
I read that they will run $500-700. I think I gotta go check this gun out sometime when a dealer has one around here.
ohiodeerhunter21 2 years ago
If you have an Academy Sports near by your looking at $430 + tax. They begin shipping July 16!
G0DSEND 2 years ago
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MsGogoli 2 years ago
awesome gun
greataccountname 2 years ago
I think so too
First time I saw it I was not as impressed. But after shooting this video I like it a lot more
Reminds me of a Mini - Colt, just a little more squared off
GunWebsites 2 years ago
I'm fairly certain it is a reproduction of the Colt Mustang. Sig already re-used Colt's expired patent on the Series 80 trigger system for the GSR.
I personally have a Sig GSR and think it one of the highest quality factory 1911s today. I also own the gun it is based on, the Series 80 Colt.
carlb86 2 years ago