It is undeniable that a personal experience is very very likely to be false simply due to the enormous amount of gods he have, have had and will have. At least all minus one is false. That is a very hight probability of falsehood.
@Sjarke98, I wanted to comment on this, then suddenly realized that I haven't the vaguest clue as to what you mean by, "At least all minus one is false."
What I meant was that most religions exclude all others. Its impossible that all, Christianity, Islam, Hinduism and Judaism are correct. And so on. Even so, people have claimed through personal relationship that their specific religion is correct. And this cannot be. One religion excludes every other. Roughly. Therefore, only one religion can be true. This gives us a huge amount of false religions and false personal relationships. They are very likely to be false. That was my point. :)
@Sjarke98 Yes, It's impossible for All religions to be correct.
However ALL absolute religious claims about the existence of a god are not supported with verifiable factual proof ( NOT scripture or personal revelations, experiences etc. ) & therefor should not be accepted as True claims !
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You free thinking fags, i have witnessed the supernatural on more than one occasion in front of several witnesses. Ie no supernatural = no god. Supernatural = god. Darwin bummed a few monkeys and thinks a prophet. Follow the ten commandment cause u will be judged u nobs.
@mazbalboa, Are you a Christian? If so, you have an odd way of showing it, calling other people deragatory slang names. Jesus commanded his followers to love their enemies, pray for them, do good to them. Are you doing good by calling them hurtful names? Don't think so.
I propose that god would have the power and intellect to convey its existence to one via a personal revelation. That experience is subjective and not provable to another.
A revelation is a miracle in consciouness. It HAS to be a miracle to overcome all the logical objections. One does not believe god has revealed itself because they accept the experience as a miracle; no, it's a miracle because they know god has revealed himself.
You know, once "religion" WAS personal experience - of something that's always been interpreted as God - but once, back in the upper paleolithic and early neolithic, there were all sorts of tools for experiencing these so called spiritual or mystical realms and the tools are still lying around, shamanistic tools for self-exploration.
And the west is still recovering, at least in the country where I am, from monotheism but is beginning to look at these tools with scientific eyes again!
I had personal experiences with religion, so I don't understand why Christians think THEIR personal experiences are going to convince me when my own failed to do so.
And I've since discovered other things can give similar, and some even more convincing, "religious experiences." If religious experiences aren't unique to religion, what good are they FOR religion?
I've dreamt of doughnuts rolling down a mountain to crush me, but I've not woken and declared them due to divine communication. They are dreams (or fever delirium as a child). I don't feel my experiences or life is soooo extraordinary that I need to apply a religion to it. Weird stuff happens in our heads - and that's life.
The majority of us are, actually - it's just the crazy Queenslander Creationists like Ken Ham and John Mackay who give Aussies a bad (religious) name. They're very thin on the ground here because they can only get a respectable following if they up and move to the USA. They mostly come from Queensland, a state which is famous for producing bananas and nuts.
And she's right, it can take some work to negotiate intellectually with personal religious experiences. - especially if people trust their own minds (which nearly everyone does).
I've had "religous" experiences. I mistook them for "god" for a while, because there was a Bible nearby.....The best descriptions or explanations for some of these experiences are found in Hinduism, as "energy" and "chakras".
the quality on her mic makes it sound like she is standing right next to me
rossmat707 2 months ago
@rossmat707 Boo!
Smithpolly 1 month ago
She has either a really good microphone or a really great phone. The voice is so clear O.o
Hermoor 5 months ago
She's making me short of breath
spl0uf 5 months ago
Its interesting how the caller's voice quality is way better when they're on the couch as opposed to the studio.
translucentorb 7 months ago
A hot Australian atheist chick? I would.
crizilla138 9 months ago
sounds like a hobbit.
ShroomFuu86 10 months ago
I think Noah Vanderhoff said it best: "these guys look like 2 chimps on a davenport. Do people really relate to this show?"
drjackflash 1 year ago
Is that the all-mighty FSM behind you guys?
YesIamJames 1 year ago
She sounds like she's masturbating whilst talking. I like it!
OTSTRETFORD 1 year ago 8
It is undeniable that a personal experience is very very likely to be false simply due to the enormous amount of gods he have, have had and will have. At least all minus one is false. That is a very hight probability of falsehood.
Sjarke98 1 year ago
@Sjarke98, I wanted to comment on this, then suddenly realized that I haven't the vaguest clue as to what you mean by, "At least all minus one is false."
Xenophile665 1 year ago
What I meant was that most religions exclude all others. Its impossible that all, Christianity, Islam, Hinduism and Judaism are correct. And so on. Even so, people have claimed through personal relationship that their specific religion is correct. And this cannot be. One religion excludes every other. Roughly. Therefore, only one religion can be true. This gives us a huge amount of false religions and false personal relationships. They are very likely to be false. That was my point. :)
Sjarke98 1 year ago
@Sjarke98 Yes, It's impossible for All religions to be correct.
However ALL absolute religious claims about the existence of a god are not supported with verifiable factual proof ( NOT scripture or personal revelations, experiences etc. ) & therefor should not be accepted as True claims !
tranquility4all 1 year ago
She's having a supernatural experience right there and then.
controllerbrain 1 year ago
Argument of cultural relativism - that because other faiths exist, there does not exist one true faith.
Cypherus21 1 year ago
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You free thinking fags, i have witnessed the supernatural on more than one occasion in front of several witnesses. Ie no supernatural = no god. Supernatural = god. Darwin bummed a few monkeys and thinks a prophet. Follow the ten commandment cause u will be judged u nobs.
mazbalboa 2 years ago
God really needs better people in his PR dept.
Tiptoetherat 2 years ago 3
Haha. Good one! Thumbs down.
controllerbrain 1 year ago
@mazbalboa You're not very bright are you? I am pretty sure most theists would be doing face palms if they read your pea brain comment here.
newcoyote 1 year ago
@mazbalboa, Are you a Christian? If so, you have an odd way of showing it, calling other people deragatory slang names. Jesus commanded his followers to love their enemies, pray for them, do good to them. Are you doing good by calling them hurtful names? Don't think so.
Xenophile665 1 year ago
@mazbalboa "Supernatural = God"
I'm confused as to how you reached that conclusion.
SpicyRocketSauce 1 year ago
I propose that god would have the power and intellect to convey its existence to one via a personal revelation. That experience is subjective and not provable to another.
A revelation is a miracle in consciouness. It HAS to be a miracle to overcome all the logical objections. One does not believe god has revealed itself because they accept the experience as a miracle; no, it's a miracle because they know god has revealed himself.
PrismaticRAYS 2 years ago
You know, once "religion" WAS personal experience - of something that's always been interpreted as God - but once, back in the upper paleolithic and early neolithic, there were all sorts of tools for experiencing these so called spiritual or mystical realms and the tools are still lying around, shamanistic tools for self-exploration.
And the west is still recovering, at least in the country where I am, from monotheism but is beginning to look at these tools with scientific eyes again!
Gaia1986 2 years ago 3
You guys are heroes to me and my friends ( we are very few but growing )
journeyman66 2 years ago 16
@journeyman66 me too :) , I dont want that Galileo times back
otaku3d 2 months ago
I had personal experiences with religion, so I don't understand why Christians think THEIR personal experiences are going to convince me when my own failed to do so.
And I've since discovered other things can give similar, and some even more convincing, "religious experiences." If religious experiences aren't unique to religion, what good are they FOR religion?
Muchodelcrazy 2 years ago 2
I've dreamt of doughnuts rolling down a mountain to crush me, but I've not woken and declared them due to divine communication. They are dreams (or fever delirium as a child). I don't feel my experiences or life is soooo extraordinary that I need to apply a religion to it. Weird stuff happens in our heads - and that's life.
jkzl1008 2 years ago 2
Did she run ten laps before she made that call?
Deflectioneer 2 years ago 3
Haha. I think she's nervous to be calling.
Llynok 2 years ago 3
Does Australia exist?
stuckvanilla 2 years ago 3
Yes, it's part of New Zealand.
aartvegan 2 years ago
An Australian atheist?
aartvegan 2 years ago
The majority of us are, actually - it's just the crazy Queenslander Creationists like Ken Ham and John Mackay who give Aussies a bad (religious) name. They're very thin on the ground here because they can only get a respectable following if they up and move to the USA. They mostly come from Queensland, a state which is famous for producing bananas and nuts.
201curzonst 2 years ago 3
Alicia is just ADORABLE!
And she's right, it can take some work to negotiate intellectually with personal religious experiences. - especially if people trust their own minds (which nearly everyone does).
jrparri 2 years ago
I thought i was having a personal experience once, but it turned out to be a bowel movement.
sypher113 2 years ago 21
I've had "religous" experiences. I mistook them for "god" for a while, because there was a Bible nearby.....The best descriptions or explanations for some of these experiences are found in Hinduism, as "energy" and "chakras".
216trixie 2 years ago 2
... or "magic", or "aliens", or "demon possession", or whatever other arbitrary thing you want to think up.
jrparri 2 years ago
outstanding response, much better than Dawlkins "your just delusional" answer, (even though i think hes great, perhaps he was having a long day) :-)
meadowsirl 2 years ago 2
I think Dawkins' response is the only proper way to deal with these people.
Iced1992 2 years ago 2
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Oh god that caller was annoying, "eh eh eh e uh uh how eh eh eh do you like eh eh uh uh"
Massivecarcrash 2 years ago
I could hardly follow her question.
216trixie 2 years ago
Excellent clip...
TheReasonWhyGuy 2 years ago 2