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  • i don't know why some people dislike this video. oh My God! it's not compulsory to watch it. well let me take it that the 36 people above and those who are yet to arrive missed and will miss the like button. it's not their fault, they need Jesus Christ in their lives else they'll still remain in crisis for ages including their successors and generations.

  • Guess it was only a matter of time before the the Catholics had a "Patron Saint of Pedophile Priests"

  • John Paull II was a wonderful Pope and I am not surprised to learn that he held our Lord's Divine Mercy close so his heart. It's lovely that he is beatified. Thank You Lord Jesus for the promise of Your mercy, born of Your most precious heart, for ourselves and for the whole world. Amen

  • @BritishSnail i hope he becomes a saint, he was easily my favorite pope

  • @wsgchopper He is a Saint! Which is what this video is about! :-) On Divine Mercy Sunday I believe, as our Lord's Divine Mercy and the Chaplet of Divine Mercy were so close to this Saint's heart. :-))

  • @BritishSnail sorry, must have forgot, well anyway god bless :D

  • @wsgchopper Thank you and you too :-D

  • A print of Pope John Paul II sketched by International renowned Australian artist Charles Billich has made an enduring memento of the special occasion of Pope John Paul II Beatification which was inspired by a " awe-inspiring meeting" with the pope in 1995 when Billich presented the pope with a portrait of BI Mary MacKillop specially commissioned for her Beatification.

  • Atheism kills. Christ brings new Life.

  • ~A Saint is a sinner who keeps trying,~ Mother Teresa

  • @victorianlulu Mother Teresa was a complete fraud who did not even believe in God. She was just a shill for Opus Dei, who were the true recipients for the vast sums raised in her name.

  • @19lfm12 You seem to hate everything Catholic. How sad you spew your hate towards Mother Tersea who spent her whole life helping the poor. What have YOU ever done for the poor?

  • @victorianlulu She tortured the poor in many nations.Her 'nuns' are well known for consistently re-using needles....which is the best way to spread AIDS.

    ...in Africa, India....shall we continue?

  • @19lfm12 I am totally convinced that you are a complete nut case. Why I even bother responding to your ridiculous comments is beyond me.

  • @victorianlulu All which has been spoken here is Truth, as the Holy Spirit has made very clear in Scripture & Prophecy. Reject it & you reject God. Deny it, & Christ shall deny YOU before the Father!

    DENIAL is the unpardonable sin against the HS. Condemn one who speaks Truth & you will account for this to Jesus; as you have thus DENIED Him.

    I pity you on that day - as you will have no oil for your lamp

  • @19lfm12 I just bought oil the other day for my outdoor tiki lamps. I bought enough oil to last me through the summer. If you need some I will gladly share.

  • @victorianlulu There is nothing to joke about: if you will not be converted, you are doomed. Many non-Xtians & Atheists will be saved for the simple reason that their hearts are pure; they see the teaching of Jesus as teh highest good & seek to live it.Even though they know HIm not. As He said, they are His children.

    Read Matt25.....as therein lies your fate.

  • @19lfm12 You're crazy. Atheist do NOT believe in God. Therefore, they do not believe in a Heaven. Why would they go someplace that they do not believe in?

  • @victorianlulu In Isaiah 58 one reads what is true & acceptable 'religion' to God.

    It is not what organized religion has done & taught. It is not the elitist, fascist, masonic modality of Opus Dei.

    It is what Jesus teaches in the Sermon on the Mount & Beatitudes. He who does thus is of God.....even if he knows not God.

    It IS that simple.

  • @19lfm12 "Pure hearts" alone will NOT get you to Heaven. You must believe that Jesus is your Lord and Savior.

  • @victorianlulu ...then you reject & deny the Gospel.

    Jesus taught: "Blessed are the pure of heart; for they shall see God".

    If you are sincere, honest, without deceit or guile - treating others as you would have them treat you - then you are living as God desires....whether you know or or believe in God, or not.

    And ONLY he who is pure of heart will acknowledge God as God when he meets Him face to face, after crossing the veil you call 'death'.

  • @19lfm12 You seem to hate everything Catholic. How sad you spew your hate towards Mother Tersea who spent her whole life helping the poor. What have YOU ever done for the poor?

  • @victorianlulu Raising $millions for Opus Dei & its many covert political operations does neither = faith in God nor service to Christ's poor.

  • @19lfm12 Mother Teresa walked among the poor and sickly, NEVER once thinking of herself. She was NOT concerned with money, but was only concerned with helping the poor, as Jesus told us to do. ~ I ask you again...what have you ever done to help the poor and destitute?

  • @victorianlulu She was a complete fraud & a mockery of Christ & His Gospel- just like her master, Escriva.

    When one does charity one does not speak of it,brag of it...seek thanks, reward, applause, tax deductions or ANY recognition. It is to be done in SECRET, where only God sees.

    Which part of the Gospel of Jesus Christ is confusing to you?

    You have NO faith!

  • @19lfm12 Are you under a doctors care?

  • @victorianlulu Thus by your own words is your condemnation: as you reject the Truth of the Gospel.

    I pity you when you shall stand before Jesus. As you have DENIED Him via DENYING the Truth.

    As you are in life, so shall you be in death. Once you have crossed the veil all is completed.No 'copping a plea'; no 2nd chance. All is weighed in the balance....& you will have nothing in your favor to weigh.

    MENE, MENE, TEKEL U PHARSIS

  • @19lfm12 ~I do not reject the Gospel, I'm just saying I bought plenty of oil. What makes you so certain that YOU will go to Heaven? Do you help the poor? You spend so much time telling others they are damned to hell. It is the ones that think they will inherit the Kingdom of Heaven that never make it there.

  • @victorianlulu If you refuse to believe in, deny & scoff at what the Holy Spirit speaks through Scripture, Prophecy & the words of Mary at LaSalette, Fatima, Garabandal & Akita, then you are lost. You are in Denial of the Truth of the HS.

    Deny the HS & Jesus shall deny you. Condemn & mock those who repeat His Truth, & Christ shall condemn YOU.

    Do such, & you will have absolutely NO defense when you stand before Christ to weigh against your sins.

  • @victorianlulu Jesus came for the outcast, the non-believer; those rejected by 'the pious ones'. Note that at His birth, He did NOT invite the 'pious ones' or the leaders of organized religion.

    He invited those hated by them: non-religious/non-believers, usually thought to be gay or bestial (Shepherds).

    Then He invited pagan occultists; literal wizards....the Magi.

    Because He knew their hearts were pure; they would See as they were willing to See & Hear. Those are of the Kingdom.

  • @victorianlulu Perhaps you need to reconsider what is truly 'Catholic'. It has ZERO to do with externals...with words, groups, agendas or persons enabled by 'approved authority figures'. As most of these are NOT of God.

    They are from hell, clothed in the garb of false external 'piety'. That would apply to all the 'rockstars' of EWTN. They do not serve God. In truth, they inwardly adore only themselves.

    Real saints are usually hated by the Church.

  • PAPA BENTO XVI NÓS TAMBÉM TE AMAMOS QUE DEUS LHE DÊ FORÇAS NA CAMINHADA DE VOSSO PONTIFICADO, ESTAMOS UNIDOS EM ORAÇÃO.

    JMJ 2011 -BEATO JOÃO PAULO II NUNCA TE ESQUECEREMOS, ROGAI POR TODOS NÓS JOVENS QUE TANTO TE AMAMOS E SEREMOS SEMPRE OS JOVENS DO PAPA JOÃO PAULO II E AGORA TAMBÉM DO PAPA BENTO XVI.

  • carrying some guys blood around.How gross!you people need to come out of the cave

  • Just another perverted religion.Think about it.You people worship pedophilia.Maybe not intentionally.But none the less!

  • Bohemianwriter1: No doubt what you say is "real" for you. But in reality, it is not "true." Unless you are willing to step up and bring some facts to what you are sharing - sources for your data, your data is but a pipe dream. No religion is without its struggles and its sinfulness from SOME of its members. After all we are human. Christ died that we might live. Living joyously and abundantly. Look around you - the evidence is overwhelming. Light is right.

  • @hiddeneaf404 Amen!

    The Vatican is guilty of all charges which Jesus makes against them in prophecy in Matthew 23.

  • Wish I were there! It's so heavenly!!! :)

  • I would take Catholicism over islam anyday. I want my freedom anytime.

  • THIS POPE AND THE OLD SHIT ATE NAZI!!

  • I dont like of beast that rape children! Vatican DOWN!!! BURN THE POPE!! HE IS SATAN!!! PUT DOWN THE KIGDOM OF VATICAN!!!

  • Why do these idiots believe God gives a fuck about them?

  • Osama Bin Laden is dead! Once again America is the savior of the world. We just killed the Anti-christ.

  • @downdatubes America is the Roman Empire at the very end. Proclaiming Osame the Anti-Christ makes the man far more important than he was. Too, say things like 'America is the savior of the world' is the last cry of a dying, ignorant nation.

    (PS. There is no God, so why should there be an anti-Christ? Keep your medieval bullshit to yourself, will you?)

  • @wiseandclear Actually Rome lasted a thousand years and was a republic for over 400 years before it became imperial so America is just starting as a new Rome and has about 200 more years yet to go as a republic...If America falls the new dark ages will be even worse than the last ones. Jump for joy, bitch.

    (PS: You only say there is no God because YOU want to be God

  • @downdatubes Newsflash; you know not what Time it is. You are already in the dark ages, for which you may thank the 'wise men' of the Vatican & their globalist cooperators;including the US.

    In Scripture & Prophecy it is foretold that the US shall be destroyed economically by natural/man-made disasters.

    Now, look about you.

    How Blind are they who have not Eyes to See......

  • @19lfm12 You're confused. Those prophecies concern the old Rome, not the new Rome...Things are different this time around.

    ;-)

  • @downdatubes No...they concern the Vatican, which is a continuation of the pagan Roman Empire cloaked in the garb of false piety & its secular collaborators. Factually, the US is part of this, unfortunately.

    You need to read the Gospels, Revelations& the prophecies given via Mary over the past 150 years. NONE of these are referring to the 'old rome'. They refer to the present time.

  • @downdatubes i sometimes believe the dark-ages already begun when Hitler started Wo2 and America responded similarly by throwing two bombs on Japan causing thousands of innocent people to die. I'm not sure, but maybe our moral bankruptcy started then and continued with Vietnam and the ridiculous and infantile 'war on terror' by the villain George Bush jr.

  • @wiseandclear Regardless of your personal beliefs.....this is the metaphysical & historical reality:

    The Vatican was VERY specifically asked by God in 1917 at Fatima,Portugal to repent & reform themselves of their evils. To perform specific spiritual actions. The stated consequence for disobedience would be WWII.

    They refused & ignored the warning.Thus,WWII & the Shoah resulted. They have the blood of 50million ppl on their paws.

    It is that simple....

  • @19lfm12 go get some help.

  • @19lfm12 if your God would punish by giving the world the shoah he might just be the devil himself. What kind of degenerated, evil and perverse God do you believe in?

  • @wiseandclear The Law of God works like basic laws of Physics: action = consequence. If A, then B.

    If you stand on active railroad tracks,knowing a train is oncoming, the result is obvious. Ditto if you jump from a 10th floor window. If you are told:'do not do X, or Y will result', then it is you who choose X or Y.

    "He who claims to be the vice-regent of God rules the world". This is reality, not my opinion. The actions of a ruler =consequences share by all. Reality.

  • @19lfm12 Usually when people like you start repeating over and over that their delusions are ABSOLUTELY TRUE and REALITY shit starts too happen. I predict that within two months you'll start shooting people. Like I said before: GET SOME HELP.

  • @wiseandclear Do you not comprehend the laws of Physics? Do you deny that in the real world, that actions have consquences?

  • @19lfm12 I do acknowledge the laws of Physics, but I don't think they apply to fictional characters like God.

  • @wiseandclear It is, factually, the Vatican which is morally, spiritually & politically responsible for the Shoah - NOT God. Men do evil; God does not. I have already explained the all too real historical & metaphysical reasons for this.

    Your problem is not that you do not believe in God. Rather that you are willfully in Denial of reality.

  • @19lfm12 believing in God is a privilege for the stupid and for those intelligent enough to succesfully blindfold themselves for the obvious truth, which is... there is no God. The only proven reality is evolution. Now, go and live your life the way you want it. Believe in your fairytale if you must.

  • @wiseandclear Evolution is very real & is the method by which God creates.

    It is organized religion- the hypocrisy of its Administrators - which is the prime cause of Atheism. Men see their evil & reject it. Men see the paradigm of 'God' which they have created- as if He were a monster - & logically reject it as Incoherent, which it is.

    In this, the Vatican has served satan well......

  • @19lfm12 intelligent design is just another invention of those who can't live with the truth. THERE IS NO GOD!

    If you would have mentioned the concept a view centuries back you would have been killed. Religion kills.

  • @downdatubes I don't need a God and certainly don't need to BE a God. I don't need the insurance of life after death, knowing this is the only life we have and therefore more precious then the Americans seem to know.

  • @wiseandclear In the Gospels God makes it clear that He considers non-believers to be very capable of great morality. Jesus used them as the positive role models in His teaching.

    Yes, we have one life & it is precious.Cherish & enjoy it. If you live as a sincere & honest person - in charity with your brothers -then you are of God.....even of you do not believe in Him.

    To those 'christians' who hate atheists & non-Christians, Jesus has but 5 words:

    "I do not know you"

  • @wiseandclear That you do not believe in God is your affair; yet I agree with your assessment of the US.

    What the US has done- plundering nations, enslaving them for profit, using war & famine for political gain & profit are...'abominations to God'.

    If you have apples & I have none, I have NO right to take your apples,invade you nation,insert puppet regimes or enslave you ppl.....or cause them to be in a state of perpetual civil war.....:)

  • @downdatubes 1) the ONLY Savior is Jesus Christ, not the US.

    2) Bin Laden is not the Antichrist,nor was he ever

    3) "Mystery Bablyon' in Revelations has 3 manifestations:

    Military= US; Financial = primarily located in NYC; Spiritual= the Vatican.

    All 3 are linked & of the same mind; Mammon.

    Murder is an abomination to God, no matter WHOM the villain is.

    The US has sold itself to Mammon long ago. God blessed the US; but the US has spat upon God over & over.

  • The pope was a hitler youth and is the worlds worst criminal net to the black pope and all the rothschilds.

  • @kiilu that's probably because the idea of abstaining from sex is invented by people who haven't got a clue about human nature and natural (and very healthy) desires.The middle-ages are over, in case you hadn't noticed.

  • How can any one, who has a brain and can reason and think believe in and follow this religion. That is nothing but a dead body! It has no value! Anything you do to a dead body is of no value! Do they worship dead bodies? I know they pray to dead men and women. Where in the Holy Bible do you find this kind of heresy? This is something the Pagan religions did, but not the Jews not the Christians. Maybe it is in the books that the Catholics added to the Bible.

  • The empire of Romans still conquer the world.

    /watch?v=3fYxFORUKYU

    /watch?v=5p_rrTs_WfQ

  • @iknewitalready

    /watch?v=Q2CCs-x9q9U&

  • @kiilu As the primary supplier of medical services in Africa is the Catholic Church - & they refuse to allow the importation & distribution of condoms - they are thus responsible for Genocide in Africa.

    Ratzinger is the one responsible for this...

  • Fuck catholics. Fuck the pope. Fuck religion period.

  • Wow, they've wasted no time at all in this; just six years since his death and already he's just one step away from sainthood.

    Couldn't have happened to a better person. We love you always, John Paul. God bless you.

  • Satans prostitute & proof ppl don't read the bible cuss if they did they would know this old homo is the devils son.

  • @TheVee909 If you are referring to Ratzinger.....you are correct. Literally.

  • you catholics and popes and preist heritics are what jesus denounced and preached against , pharisies and scribes who thought thye were so smart and godly what a joke

  • God bless the Pope

  • You poor anti-christian fools. Who's going to defend us from the Muslim fascists? Multi-cultural liberals? LOL

  • @downdatubes the question Europe has been asking for the last few decades is: who is going to defend us from the medieval, fake plastic American culture?

  • @wiseandclear Look at this way: If America hadn't destroyed Hitler and confronted the USSR until it diasappeared, you'd be asking, "Who's going to defend us from fascist slavery?" Consider yourself lucky you ungrateful wretch.

  • @downdatubes it were infact the Canadians that liberated my country. But.... we're grateful.

    Too bad these days the USA are destroying our world with pollution (rejecting Kyoto) and narrow minded Christian conservatism. Also, mind that the USA only got into the war when their own land was attacked in Pearl Harbor. Before that many Americans sympathized with the ideas of the Nazi's.

  • @downdatubes, after the war, the Americans started their irrational witch-hunt on everything that looked a bit communist. Still, these days, the Americans don't know the difference between a socialist and a communist. That's because you don't have a real democracy, (only a fading false version of it). On top of everything you are making the same mistakes again by totally overreacting on everything that seems Muslim.

    Immature, that's the word.

  • @wiseandclear The Red Scares in the US are the fault of one man:

    Archbishop Fulton Sheen.

    It was he who single-handedly instigated these witch hunts while WWII was still in progress - and while Russia was still out military ally.

  • @19lfm12 reasoning like that you could easily suggest that ww2 was the fault of one man too, Adolf Hitler. Point is that millions of Americans, up 'till today share(d) his vision. (must admit, I never heard of the man thow).

  • @wiseandclear What is written here of the TRUTH of what Sheen did is factual.Deal with it. It is also fact that Sheen was funded & enabled by Opus Dei......

    WWII & the Shoah are the literal & direct fault of the Vatican - for their disobedience to God.

  • @wiseandclear Facts:

    1) Fulton Sheen was a VERY close, personal friend of J.Edgar Hoover & was a frequent guest of Hoover & Clyde Tolson.....

    2) Sheen personally witnessed the sex abuse of minors & knowingly covered it up. This is called: a CRIME.

  • @downdatubes There would have been no Hitler nor Nazi party IF the Vatican had been obedient to God - repenting & reforming themselves, & performing the simple spiritual acts requested of them by God at Fatima in 1917.

    Instead they made a tourist trap of it......mocking God & condemning more the 50 million in Europe to death.

  • Creepy antichrist 666 type of activity.

  • Is this Pedo-Central?

  • @graphattic

    Fuckwit

  • @barrygrannell Oh it is? Thnx!

  • fucking pedophile fucking assholes

  • Pedophilia Priests and their sex crimes.

    /watch?v=Wz7bfwX1drU&

    /watch?v=Uu5lN3V3SYE&

  • @iknewitalready

    /watch?v=1WkAfUTYhgA

  • BTW: I sell "miracles" at wholesale prices.

    Why pay full price at church when we offer deep, deep discounts online?

    "Used Miracles" also available ... as is, no warranty.

    "Lay Away" also available, buy now before the Christmas rush & lock in our off-season discounts. No interest payments between now and Christmas.

    Hurry ... they make excellent "Stocking Stuffers"!

  • Catholic pedophilia worldwide.

    /watch?v=I2_jeA8uQw8&

    /watch?v=0ABd_K7i5V8&

    /watch?v=e0CB5__fyqQ&

  • Give me a FREAKIN' break. When will people leave the ignorant past behind, and act like intelligent and enlightened humans in the 21st. Century.

  • Secrets and Silence of criminal pious Pope

    Catholic Church & its popes : Immoral, Vile, Sham of an institution.

    Arrest the social parasite Priests & prosecute the defrock the fraudulent pope.

    Pope & its immoral priests hiding behind the church to commit criminal activities worldwide.

    /watch?v=49NU5_EiXHM

    /watch?v=DfhFG41ZQd0&

    /watch?v=WLbfjhFr8B0&

    /watch?v=4aRNPxU7pAg&

  • Entertainment for brain dead sheep. Gosh they even dug up his body for this?!!

  • Catholic Church deceiving the masses and enriching itself through money-laundering scheme.

    Vatican's notoriously secret bank.

    /watch?v=G77_rIbRWec

    /watch?v=5p_rrTs_WfQ

  • John Lennon was named after Pope John Paul. Yoko Ono was a devote Catholic and introduced John to Yoko Ono! Small world!

  • Vat---CIA---n

    Vatican secrets exposed.

    /watch?v=5p_rrTs_WfQ

  • Religion is just another way for the elite to make money

  • 1.5 victims of Pedophile Pope.

    Arrest the pedophile sexist Priest & the POPE

    Pious popes molest children and spread Aids by not wearing condoms.

    /watch?v=wJlXpDkVbPI

    /watch?v=u7y-BsoSpfQ&

    /watch?v=iaJE3_PYaCU

    /watch?v=dv82aOqeVvw&

    /watch?v=Lje3IUw-whs&

  • One more Thing....What have you done for God Lately?

  • News Flash....The United States is NOT a Democracy. It is a Representative Republic. The word "Democracy" is NOT in the U.S. Constitution.

  • Jurassic Policies? Like What? Destroyed Millions of lives? How?

    Pedophile Priests? Do you know the same % of "Men of the Cloth" do the bad sex thing regardless of Religion or Marital status. But why does the Catholic Church the ONLY Villain in this? If you are going to Judge, Judge Righteously! What about Teachers? Do you get this worked up about that? How about condemn the act, regardless of profession.

  • @dkbierley Fact: Catholic Clerical Sex Abuse has been rampant, systemic & ongoing for over 1000 years with full knowledge of Vatican officials.Of this there is abundant proof.

    No other religious group is as large or old. Public schools have only existed for 150 years. Thus due to its sheer size & age, the abuse by Catholic clerics is far greater then any other group.

    And only the tip of the iceberg is know, as most victims never reported the abuse.

  • If it wasn't for the inconvenient death of John Paul 2nd, a liberal pope whom at least aspired to be what Christianity claims, you got instead an uber conservative pope whom destroyed millions of lives with his jurassic policies.

    Now being beatified by an old Nazi whos job was to play "gods rottweiler" and protect pedophile priests and silence critics. The Catholic Church is a threat still to democracy as any other desert dogma from the M.E...

  • @bohemianwriter1 You are talking about a thing who ends 500 years ago.A society is not build with disrespect religious.

  • @felipe5083

    Nope! I'm talking about what todays pope is a proponent for. And I'm talking about theis sanctification of a pope that had as dogma that condoms and abortions are murder.

    Religion is still a threat to humanity and should be mocked as long as their braindead followes refuse to get their heads out of bronze age tales....

  • @bohemianwriter1 The only ppl whom Jesus condemned were the leaders of organized religion - as they 'used God' to enrich themselves & make ppl their chattel.

    ...and they killed Him for that.

    What you wrote of JP1st is correct: he was killed for believing in God & trying to actually BE Christian.

    Ratz is beyond evil....

  • @19lfm12

    If you want to take the bible at face value, then you would find som many contradictions, that I am amazed how people can believe in that drivel without having their heads in a constant spin...

  • @bohemianwriter1 Biblical Literalism = foolishness. Now while I believed that Scripture is revealedTruth, there is a big problem: it has been tampered with by men for self-serving interests (i,e, the Vatican).They suppressed valid texts, 'edited', intentionally mistranslated, etc. For example, Jesus never used the word 'church' as neither the word nor construct existed then.

    To read Scripture requires mental/spiritual Coherence,to decode what appears to be confusing.

  • @19lfm12

    So we are at this point now. apologetism/ Which parts are supposed to be revealed and which are the ones not revealed? I hope you realize that there are biblical scriptures that have been hidden for more than 1700 years. They were deemed heretical.

    One scripture deems Judas as a hero. Knowing the lies of Christianity, I fall into the category of believing in Judas, and not Peter, Paul and the rest of the stooges. After all, Judas knew what the Kingdom of Heaven actually meant....

  • @bohemianwriter1 No - I do not assert that EVERYsuppressed scripture text is valid....or lucid. Certainly not the Gospel of Judas.BUT....that of Thomas is legitimate & very coherent with the Canonical Gospels.It indicates that the 'organized' Xtianity you know is wrong in its mode.

    "The Kingdom of God is within you,not in buildings made of stone...split a piece of wood & I am there. Lift a stone & you find Me".

  • The only reason why the Judas gospel is not being considered legit, is that this alone, together with the Mary Magdalene gospel put a few needles in the balloon I call Christian delusions.

    All canonical scriptures were put together by very ignorant men. Many of them did not even know how to read and write! Besides, more than half of the NT is written by a scam artist called Paul.

  • @bohemianwriter1 The Gospel of Thomas was written in Syriac c. late 30sAD;brought to Egypt by the Apostle Mark, thus founding the Coptic church. NOTE: Mark does not bring 'Marl's Gospel':)

    While I assert that Matt,Mark & Luke all have Truth, they all seem to be from a common source:the Q gospel. Which may not have been authored by them.

    Why do you claim Paul was a scam artitist?

  • @19lfm12

    Now that was quite a story. Any source that can back up this claim?

    The 4 gospels you mention have no confirmed writer. They were all written accoring to historians at least a generation after Jesus dissappeared from Palestine. Give me some eye witness account, then we'll talk.

    Paul was and is a scam artist, since it is HIS scriptures most of you follow, and not any scriptures from your alleged savior. Why didn't "son of God" write these things himself? Because none of it happened!

  • @bohemianwriter1 Research the Gospel of Thomas & its origins with the Coptic faith. Gospels- several of them - were in written form within a few years of Christ's ascencion. John'sGospel was written by him; the other three seem to have a common origin.

    One characteristic of many of the earliest extant NT texts is that they are scribal in nature (i.e. copies,not originals).

    WHY do you say Paul was a scam artist?

  • @19lfm12

    I have actually read the gospel of Thomas. I was not impressed.

    There is no serious historian who can determine the origins of any of the canonized gospels. And since some of them contradict each other, there is serious doubt they have commmon sources....

  • @bohemianwriter1 How do the Canonical Gospels 'contradict' each other? True...some things only appear iun 2 of 3 or 3 of 4, but are not - of themselves - incoherent with anything.

    Surely you have read historical accounts or biographies - where each one does not mention every detail in the others. The judgment of validity is in overall coherence.

  • @19lfm12

    If I had space, I'd give'm to you all here. So I urge you to google "contradictionis in the bible" and then you would find it yourself. For someone claiming to k now your bible, is awfully daft about the contradictions in your own holy book, is it not?

    The bible is NOT a biography. It's a collection of superman stories that Paul put in to compete with the other sects that was flourishing at the time. Look it up....

  • @bohemianwriter1 ...nor is the bible 'easy reading'. Nor a social history of Judaism.

    Putting aside any 'translation/editing' issues, Scripture is for those willing to understand. It's simple; not all are willing to learn, seek. Not all are sincere. But those who are will understand.

    That is why Christ spoke in parables.

  • @19lfm12

    To use the words of Thomas Paine:

    The Bible is a book that has been read more and examined less than any book that ever existed.

    Anyone studying the bible to its core, and the history behind it, is bound to become atheists.

    And if you want to talk about biblical validity, then you should read the Thomas Jefferson version of your favorite book. He tore out the magical BS. What was left, was something similar to every single other sect that was big at the time.

  • @bohemianwriter1 Your Anti-Catholic comments make me sick. Judas is not in Heaven. Calling Peter and Paul stooges makes you look ridiculous.

    And no, you will not find God under a stone or in a slice of wood. That is NOWHERE in the holy Bible. Talking about finding God in yourself is idol worship. We are NOT God. Only Jesus Christ promises eternal life.

  • @victorianlulu

    Well Peter and Paul ARE stooges. Christianity is the only dogma where lies becomes truth, heros become crooks, and lying crooks becomes heros. I suggest you read the Gospel of Judas. Yet in the gigantic spiritual lie you live in, you would deny that scripture as heretical. Why? Becasue those pages alone, together with the Gospel of Mary Magdalen will put a whole in your dogmatic delusions.

  • @victorianlulu

    Cont.1

    As far as being ridiculus is the exact description of what the sheeples whom worship an x. Nazi, inquisitor, and protector of child molestors. Yet this old freak of nature inflicts a world of misery in his crusade against abortion and condoms and gays. I mean, seriously. How can you take an old fool with a pointy hat and a giant ring seriously?

  • @victorianlulu

    Cont.2

    How can you take some self proclaimed representative of Baby Jesus whom lives in palaces at face value? Is that what Jesus taught? "Let my followers wollow in wealth, luxury while they keep the peasants in poverty, demanding them to pay their way into heaven to my popes!"

  • Cont.3

    The Catholic Church is a gigantc LIE! And deserves all the scorn it can get. And your prophet in chief and your skyspook do have some odd terms for "salvation". Which means only one thing/ Yoour tribal god is more insane and more vblood thristy, vindictive and cruel than Joseph Fritzl, Stalin and Hitler rolled into one. I'm sure you will see that if you ever read the OT sometime.. There you will find that your god is a gigantic prick whom deserves no respect. If he exists however.

  • @victorianlulu

    Cont.4

    Then again, there is no proof that your space daddy exist. There is no tangeable proof that even Jesus existed. And if you belive in virgin births, party tricks, and the demand that everyone must worship him if they don't want to be punished in eternity in Hell by that allmighty, all "loving" god of yours, then you need to seek help....

  • @bohemianwriter1 If you are an atheist, and clearly hate Catholics, why are you here on a forum about Pope John Paul II Beautification? Why would I read anything about Judas? There is more proof that Jesus existed than not! Priests and nuns take a vow of poverty. Pope's do not own anything. John Paul II was buried in a simple pine box. Upon a Pope's death, their rings are smashed. Pope's do not live in luxury. There are One Billion Catholics worldwide. Does that bother you?

  • @victorianlulu

    I don't hate Catholics. I despise it's insitution of power.

    And what is there to love about the Catholic church?

    Hitler was Catholic, and was never excommunicated for his crimes. And we have the Crusades. The conquistadors (killed 19 million native Americans in 35 years). And we have the book burnings, witch hunts to mention a few examples.

    Popes don't live in luxury? In a mansion? Please!id Baby Jesus tell you about lying?

  • @bohemianwriter1 All that you have stated in this comment about the FACTS of what the Vatican is & has done, are historical truth, which no sane person can deny.

  • @19lfm12

    And they all did it in the name of Baby Jesus.

    Why do people have their "sabbath" on a Sunday when it is clear that Saturday is the proper sabbath according to Jewish traditions?

  • @bohemianwriter1 That is an interesting issue..........which most are in Denial of.

  • You should read about Judas. You might learn something! But people whom ar clinging to bronze age myths never want to learn the truth about their religion. Why do you not want to learn the truth about you8r child molesting inhumane, antidemocratic dogma?

    And no. There is no proof that Jesus ectually existed. There is no proof of the foundation of your Christianity with birgin birth. Can you prove that Jesus existed and not use the bible? I did not think so.

    Why are you here? To preach BS?

  • Question:

    You call yourself Christian. Why are you worshipping old pedophile Nazis, child molestors and woman haters like the popes have done the last 1700 years?

    I am here to bash these old bastards! You don't like it? Tough!

    It bothers me that so many are still believing in bronze age myths, and claim to have monopooly of truth. It bothers me that Christianity is the bloodiest, most inhumane religion in history. It bothers me that you claim that your insane vindictvie skyspook is merciful.

  • @bohemianwriter1 The Holy Catholic Church was founded by Jesus Christ Himself. The Catholic Church is the only Christian Church that goes back to the time of Christ. The Catholic Church is the Largest Charitable organization on the planet, which has numerous Hospitals and started orphanages. The Catholic Church developed scientific methods and law of evidence. The Catholic Church founded the college system. We defend human life and uphold marriage and family. We protected the Bible for centuries

  • @victorianlulu Jesus Christ did not found the Roman Catholic Church organization, commonly called the Vatican. It is 100% man-made, as is the Imperial Papacy. These are facts of history.

    What Jesus founded was a spiritual family of all who would live His teaching. The Apostles & their successors were to teach by personal example, living in material poverty.

    Thus as the Vatican does not do as He taught & commanded of the Apostles, it does not believe in the Faith.the Apostles believed.

  • @19lfm12 Sorry. You are incorrect.

    The Catholic Church is the One True Church started by Christ Himself. Peter was a beloved Apostle of Christ and Peter was and is recognized as the Prince of the Apostles and the First Supreme Pontiff. Jesus said to Peter: " Feed My lambs...Tend My sheep...Feed My sheep."

    Peter died in Rome and his martyrdom came during the reign of Emperor Nero probably in 64. Saint Peter chose to be crucified upside down, as he felt he was not worthy to die like Jesus.

  • @victorianlulu 1) as there is NO contemporary account of the manner of Peter's death, what you say is mere legend, lacking proof

    2) Inversion is the prime indicator of the demonic& higher occult.Thus the Inverted Cross/Crucifix was & is a symbol of evil

    3) Peter was never a 'pope'- as neither the word nor construct existed- nor was such instituted by Christ

    4) the vatican is a man-made entity, established when certain bishops sold Christ's 'church' to Mammon

  • @victorianlulu Charity? The RCC gives bare lip service to the Gospel - at best......it does nothing which does not enrich itself. Education? The Church kept the common man in illiterate darkness for 1000 years, intentionally. Orphanages? Do you wish me to recount the 'rape room' charnel house tales? Defend human life? By enabling war after war, conquest, plunder,pillage & scores of oppressive govts?

    The Vatican knowingly suppressed valid Scriptures.....

  • @bohemianwriter1 We Catholics do NOT worship Popes. Our Pope is the leader of over one billion Catholics. He sits on the Chair of Saint Peter, our first Pope, and beloved Apostle of Jesus. Peter was given the keys to Heaven by Christ Himself. I see no police running to arrest Pope Benedict for any sex crimes. In fact, his new book entitled "Jesus of Nazareth" is a BEST seller!

    Pope Benedict was forced BY LAW to join the hitler youth at age 14, like ALL German boys. Everyone knows that!

  • @victorianlulu Ratzinger:

    1)WILLINGLY joined the HJ, by his own words- no later then age 10

    2) He guarded slave laborers- mostly Catholic - at Dachau

    3) His family was VERY pro-Nazi. Dad worked for the SS. The family sheltered them after the Nazi regime surrendered

    4) He participated in the forced deportation of Hungarian Jews to the death camps

    5) His final post was as a guard in a subcamp of Dachau in his hometown;then fled from the Allies when they liberated the camps....

  • @19lfm12 You are reading from Anti-Catholic websites.

  • @victorianlulu That information is all factual; the result of exhaustive work of real historians with no ax to grind. It is all free on the web - if you bother to look.

    And it is all verified by the words of Mary spoken in prophecy over the past 150 years where she clearly identified Ratz. at LaSalette, Fatima, Garabandal,Akita...to Anne Katerina Emmerich, Marie-Julie Jahenny,among others. All valid; all 100% Coherent with Scripture.

    All spoken by the Holy Spirit.

  • @victorianlulu 1)the object of faith which most Catholics have been conditioned to IS the Pope, Imperial Papacy & the Vatican Administration

    2) The only Keys given to Peter were the Gospel; the teaching of Jesus - the core being the Sermon on the Mount & Beatitudes. To believe in & LIVE this is the Key to unlocking the Kingdom of Heaven

    3) Jesus gave to NO mortal the authority to determine the eternal destiny of souls. That is the exclusive province of God.

    4) God shall destroy the Vatican

  • @bohemianwriter1 It is said that Pope Benedict as a teen HATED the hitler youth and refused to attend meetings. The Nazi's killed his young cousin whom he loved.

    Does it bother you that there are over One Billion Catholics worldwide? Catholics have been martyred, persecuted and killed over the centuries because of their love for God. It was the Catholics that protected the holy Bible throughout the centuries of wars, plagues, the Fall of Rome, etc.~

  • @victorianlulu In December 1936it became German Law that all boys age 10 were required to join the HitlerJugend. By his own words in his bio, Ratz joined gladly & willingly. One could voluntarily join as young as age 6. But, factually, Ratz joined the HJ no later then April of 1937 at age 10. He advanced to the senior HJ at 14,thus entering Nazi military service.

    He & his whole family were well known as being VERY pro-Nazi, according to eyewitness testimony.

  • @victorianlulu Rather, it is God who sent the plagues, wars, etc.upon the Vatican for its iniquities.

    At the Council of Nicea the bishops declared war/persecution upon Arian Christians. Within 100 years, God moved his 'chess piece":

    The Sack of Rome.....by Arian Christians..

    Play chess with God- and you lose.....

  • @19lfm12 I rarely lose at chess! I am a very good chess player. One time I beat my cousin in a game of chess and won a pink teddy bear! ~

  • @19lfm12 Also, please do not discuss Arian with me, as I am not interested in their false doctrine. They are not Christian either. They claim that Jesus was not divine in and of Himself. Talk to a Jehovah Witness or Mormon about that.

  • @victorianlulu You are hermeneutically challenged. The Arians were early Xtians who did not believe in or questioned Christ's divinity; yet obeyed & lived His Teaching.Thus they were Xtian. Christ did not give ANYONE the right to presecute 'in His Name' or forcibly covert ppl!

    Thus when God Willed that Arian Xtians attacked & sacked Rome, this was Divine Justice for the blood spilled by the traitors to Jesus in the Vatican -who dared to persecute their brothers!

  • @bohemianwriter1 WE are all human and weak. The Catholic Church statistically have the LEAST amount of reported sex abuse cases. Look it up yourself. Other denominations have their share of sexual abuse! We humans are sinful and weak. There is evil everywhere. Jesus knows this. The less than 1% of bad priests will have to answer to God one day. I just read where the sexual abuse of children by PUBLIC school teachers in this country is 100 times worse than the Church scandal.

  • @victorianlulu To even suggest that the Holy Spirit would 'inspire the selection' of a Nazi & former HitlerJugend member as the sole representative of God on earth, endowed with 'Infallibility' & the ability to admit or deny salvation to mortals........is Blasphemy most foul.

    Factually, the HS has publicly communicated that the final successor to Peter would be JPII - flawed as he was. He is dead; and by the word of the HS - there shall be no more.

    Ratz is a fraud.

  • @victorianlulu Honest Catholics (& Protestants) refused Nazi military service & the HJ -risking torture,death & prison. Many were thus persecuted for their faith. Many of them either resisted overly- or via joining the resistance efforts. Or fleeing Germany.

    The Ratzingers could have joined their very neighbors - members of Catholic resistance groups.

    ...but SOMEBODY turned them in to the Gestapo. I wonder who that could have been.......

  • @bohemianwriter1 Catholics are not woman haters. The Catholic Church defends the right for female babies to be born EVERYDAY, not killed by abortion.

    The Catholic Church does NOT worship Mary, but HONORS her as the Blessed Mother of God. There is a special day in May in her honor.

    Bash all you want. satan is at work everyday to try and destroy the Church. That can NEVER happen, as Jesus said "The gates of hell will not prevail against it." The Catholic Church will go on.

  • @victorianlulu Opus Dei literally owns & runs the Vatican; & has for a long time. Women are virtual slaves in the masonic cult of Escriva,which has schools to train them to literally serve men.

    In Scripture & Prophecy it is very clear that God shall destroy the Vatican & all who have 'committed fornication' with it.

    Some reading is suggested......wake up & smell the coffee.

  • @bohemianwriter1 What is the bloodiest and most inhumane are the thousands of innocent babies aborted everyday.

    What is the bloodiest and inhumane is the Passion and Death of Jesus on a Cross.

    Go back to Bohemia and write more about finding God in wood and under stones...