Look you guys, Einstein was both right AND wrong about the speed of light and the fastest thing in the Universe.
First, lets try to keep in mind that E=MC^2 is a THEORY. Not all theories are proven to be 100% correct. Some get close but fail under certain, rare circumstances. Quantum Mechanics is one of those circumstances. E=MC^2 doesn't work at the Quantum level. So, Einstein had to fix this problem. He came up with Special Relativity (which fails at the Sub-Atomic lvl) as a stopgap fix.
Einstein failed to come up with a solution that addressed all the variables in the Sub-atomic, Normal and the Quantum physics like E=MC^2 had for Relative Space and time.
It's not that Albert was wrong about Relativity, it's that when the "relativity" of an area of space changes, E no longer equals MC^2 and everything goes out the window. That's because E=MC^2 only works (well, it gets close, kinda) IN RELATIVE SPACE!
E=MC^2 ASSUMES that light is the fastest anything can move.
Light has no mass.....? You're a moron. A Photon does in fact have mass. Do some research and grow a brain. Open your mind to the possibility that Mankind DOESN'T KNOW EVERYTHING! and that ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE! We haven't been around long enough to have "seen it all" and understand ho it all works. We don't and THAT is a fact.
Why is it that when a Scientist discovers some new thing, the scientific community's first reaction is Disbelief in what's been found and Admonishment of the discoverer\s?
please check this link for more detailed information regarding the muon neutrinos arXiv.org type this into their search arXiv:1109.4897v2, enjoy your findings.
The phrase that posits "I Think that . . ." without evidence is the lowest rung in the scientific method. It is probably best not to speculate what these results mean until more data and evidence has been gathered. To title a video as "nonsense" belies either a bias toward holding onto a position (which is against the scientific method) or ignorance of the method. If we were to find FTL particles it would only enrich physics and advance it toward new and exciting possibilies.
You are right of course, but I think you misunderstand the purpose of this video. Suffice to say I'm not calling the data nonsense, I'm calling the words coming out of the mouths of those jumping to conclusions about the data nonsense. I don't think theres any way to control whether or not we have biases, thats just how humans work- but there is a way of being cautious in making assumptions about these biases. Perhaps you should've done so here and allowed yourself to hear me fully.
@moniker127 I can only go by what you say in your vid. There are ways that we can control bias - it is called the scientific method. When science does allow bias to enter then distortions in science occure and, in the last couple of hundred years, these have been ironed out at the peer review stage of science conversation. Quote: "Perhaps you should've done so here and allowed yourself to hear me fully." It's not up to me to make myself clearly and precisely understood - it is you.
You're saying a lot of things that are infact right, but you're still missing my point. People have biases. That is a fact. Any of us can say that we don't, but odds are we still do about something.
What I'm saying is that it is fine to allow these biases to determine what questions you ask, but not what conclusions you receive, and that people are allowing their biases against relativity to influence their conclusions about this neutrino speed, an action which is nonsense.
@moniker127 YOU ARE RIGHT my humble openion it can be :
since they fire the nuterino through earth (they are ghost matter) so they forget that the distance to Italy is measured over the land (curve distance) while travel path is straight line just wait and you'll hear the apology in the news couple of years later :)
@aden302000 Einstein remains correct as he was refering to normal matter, not exotic ones we have discovered that do not even influence normal matter. People slip into tangents on this topic very easily when they have no actually dug into what Einstein was talking about. Lack of knowledge and preconceived notions, and little else.
No, this isn't the way out of the problem. The speed of light as an ultimate limit is, according to Einstein, a *property of spacetime*, not just something that refers only to "normal matter". No information-carrying of any kind signal can propagate faster than light. It is this that is apparently violated by the CERN neutrino experiment and does present a fundamental problem to special relativity. Having said all that, my personal bet is on Einstein, not CERN. We'll see.
Well obviously it doesn't require infinite energy to move faster than the speed of light. lol
DrMadolite 1 month ago
Look you guys, Einstein was both right AND wrong about the speed of light and the fastest thing in the Universe.
First, lets try to keep in mind that E=MC^2 is a THEORY. Not all theories are proven to be 100% correct. Some get close but fail under certain, rare circumstances. Quantum Mechanics is one of those circumstances. E=MC^2 doesn't work at the Quantum level. So, Einstein had to fix this problem. He came up with Special Relativity (which fails at the Sub-Atomic lvl) as a stopgap fix.
DrGoodwrench64 1 month ago
@DrGoodwrench64
Einstein failed to come up with a solution that addressed all the variables in the Sub-atomic, Normal and the Quantum physics like E=MC^2 had for Relative Space and time.
It's not that Albert was wrong about Relativity, it's that when the "relativity" of an area of space changes, E no longer equals MC^2 and everything goes out the window. That's because E=MC^2 only works (well, it gets close, kinda) IN RELATIVE SPACE!
E=MC^2 ASSUMES that light is the fastest anything can move.
DrGoodwrench64 1 month ago
Light has no mass.....? You're a moron. A Photon does in fact have mass. Do some research and grow a brain. Open your mind to the possibility that Mankind DOESN'T KNOW EVERYTHING! and that ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE! We haven't been around long enough to have "seen it all" and understand ho it all works. We don't and THAT is a fact.
Why is it that when a Scientist discovers some new thing, the scientific community's first reaction is Disbelief in what's been found and Admonishment of the discoverer\s?
DrGoodwrench64 1 month ago
YOU'RE RIGHT! . It is extremely likely the scientists at CERN have MADE A MISTAKE. Einstein was NOT wrong.
Only INternet crackpots thin that. Einstein DESERVES his revered position.
Razwell 1 month ago
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please check this link for more detailed information regarding the muon neutrinos arXiv.org type this into their search arXiv:1109.4897v2, enjoy your findings.
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Thegamingkid1000 1 month ago
In the suggestions:
"BREAKING NEWS - E-mc2 Is Wrong!"
"Science is Wrong - Neutrinos faster than Light"
*facepalm*
capefeather 1 month ago
@capefeather OK the second one is actually a joke so whatever.
capefeather 1 month ago
The phrase that posits "I Think that . . ." without evidence is the lowest rung in the scientific method. It is probably best not to speculate what these results mean until more data and evidence has been gathered. To title a video as "nonsense" belies either a bias toward holding onto a position (which is against the scientific method) or ignorance of the method. If we were to find FTL particles it would only enrich physics and advance it toward new and exciting possibilies.
aden302000 2 months ago
@aden302000
You are right of course, but I think you misunderstand the purpose of this video. Suffice to say I'm not calling the data nonsense, I'm calling the words coming out of the mouths of those jumping to conclusions about the data nonsense. I don't think theres any way to control whether or not we have biases, thats just how humans work- but there is a way of being cautious in making assumptions about these biases. Perhaps you should've done so here and allowed yourself to hear me fully.
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@moniker127 I can only go by what you say in your vid. There are ways that we can control bias - it is called the scientific method. When science does allow bias to enter then distortions in science occure and, in the last couple of hundred years, these have been ironed out at the peer review stage of science conversation. Quote: "Perhaps you should've done so here and allowed yourself to hear me fully." It's not up to me to make myself clearly and precisely understood - it is you.
aden302000 1 month ago
@aden302000
You're saying a lot of things that are infact right, but you're still missing my point. People have biases. That is a fact. Any of us can say that we don't, but odds are we still do about something.
What I'm saying is that it is fine to allow these biases to determine what questions you ask, but not what conclusions you receive, and that people are allowing their biases against relativity to influence their conclusions about this neutrino speed, an action which is nonsense.
moniker127 1 month ago
@moniker127 YOU ARE RIGHT my humble openion it can be :
since they fire the nuterino through earth (they are ghost matter) so they forget that the distance to Italy is measured over the land (curve distance) while travel path is straight line just wait and you'll hear the apology in the news couple of years later :)
amermahdy70 1 month ago
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amermahdy70 1 month ago
@aden302000 Einstein remains correct as he was refering to normal matter, not exotic ones we have discovered that do not even influence normal matter. People slip into tangents on this topic very easily when they have no actually dug into what Einstein was talking about. Lack of knowledge and preconceived notions, and little else.
mastertheillusion 1 month ago
@mastertheillusion I agree whole heartedly.
aden302000 1 month ago
@mastertheillusion
No, this isn't the way out of the problem. The speed of light as an ultimate limit is, according to Einstein, a *property of spacetime*, not just something that refers only to "normal matter". No information-carrying of any kind signal can propagate faster than light. It is this that is apparently violated by the CERN neutrino experiment and does present a fundamental problem to special relativity. Having said all that, my personal bet is on Einstein, not CERN. We'll see.
pseudorandomly 1 month ago