@MultiRec If you've seen his funny little excuse for a debunk to this video, you'll notice his first, and most obvious piece of idiocy. His lack of understanding of space. It's always night beyond our atmosphere....If only his imagination, or a semblence of intelligence would show itself, we could stop laughing at his moronic, and continual attempts at explaining away the obvious blunders which show Apollo as the fraud it most certainly was!
Know how I have a winner with this one? For one, ole AB2 the duck went out of his way to ridicule it...Two, he used all his sockpuppet accounts to vote it down...Sad little troll that duckboy is!
@kennjohnsen Hard to tell. I copied some more pictures from the same reel, and there are some odd things about some of them. I'm going to do a video about it soon, but the duck needs some edumacating first. Either way, it's painfully obvious that taking pictures of stars in the BLACK SKY above the atmosphere, sun in them or not, is merely a simple task that NASA seems to avoid at all cost...USUALLY. I wouldn't be surprised if nearly all photos they release are from their virtual reality sim.
Hmm. I don't get it. The bright spot is always at the same place of the Canadarm, but the star field moves between fotos. What's more, according to my good old rotating hand held star chart, the sun doesn't even move through that constellation, so it can't be the sun.
@WackyAmoebatrons You might want to look again. Close in on the SUN, and see that it is BEHIND the canadarm, not in front, or on it...With NASA, it could be just another of their montage of faked photos they show the dumbed down masses to appease them, and keep their funding!
@edmfw Us HOAX NUTS, as you so elegantly put it, don't profess to have been into the deadly radiation surrounding our planet and coming from multiple sourcesin the UNIVERSE. That is the job of the Apollo astronuts, and the morons who refuse to admit what our own ASTRO/SOLAR physicists know to be true, and have been revealing in science programs, over and over again. Us HOAX NUTS, merely point out that TRUTH, while admitting to ourselves that APOLLO HAS TO BE A HOAX. Your EGO is unable to do so!
@un4g1v3n1 Heheh, you get a thumbup for the morphing lander effect...lol
btw, I have been out this past few weeks looking at planets with my telescope. It occured to me that I saw (and photographed) a planet in the sky AFTER sunrise. So, I would assume that in a lunar morning, you should be able to see and photograph the same. You can see where this thinking goes, in regards to the "no stars" question: it is the wrong question.
"Where are the planets?" That is the better question...
@cliffspc Yes...the planets and stars did not exist back in the Apollo era. They were only visible from the Earth back then. Reaching for the stars only happened in Hollywood in the sixties and seventies. God bless BUck Rogers!
@blockloser You can't take over the truth. It is what it is, and these guys can create a million sockpuppet accounts...Nothing will change the truth, and those who haven't got their heads up their asses will see it quite easily, regardless of the duck's gobblygook on the net!
@dbootsthediva watch?v=Bqv4q35QqUg Start at the 4 minute 35 second mark for the particulars about the VAB and how satellites are placed in relation to them....also hear what they have to say about what the VAB's can do to humans.. I am aware we have loads of satellites out there monitoring everything from space weather, to where Russian nuclear submarines are positioned. The fact still remains, as you'll notice from the video I've pointed out here, that radiation is DEADLY in SPACE! GET IT?
@un4g1v3n1 Your arguments r getting less n less valid. moon landing remember not sun landing. So u give video link to episodes about the SUN inferring if we tried to walk towards SUN without protection we would become burned up. KEYWORD PROTECTION PARTICULARS @4:18 MARK-SHE STATES PROTECTING ASTRONAUTS FROM POTENTIAL HARMFUL RADIATION - at 4:35 says OUTSIDE OF PROTECTION OF EARTH, RADIATION COULD PROVE DEADLY IF HUMANS R NOT PROPERLY PROTECTED = get it not deadly IF protected bye
@dbootsthediva Wow...And I thought you were serious, and had a real head on your shoulders. Guess you prefer your Apollo delusions, and to blow the NASA bone! Oh well...Too bad! Delude yourself all you want! Obviously the guy telling you that without protection, YOUR DEAD just doesn't sink in for you. And he is a solar physicist. I thought you'd listen to what the experts say, but you want to twist it around like an average PAN troll. Too bad! So long, and enjoy your Apollo Fairy Tales!
@debunxagain Put the shit on your background and stop with the bullshit antics. The light is not on the structure, you are too stupid with bullshit. It is so clear that it is not. First you idiots say it is impossible to photograph stars for all those idiotic ass reasons and now NASA has proven it against a bright ass earthshine with an Aurora that could be view differently from space, when is the last time you checked that? Or did you take NASA's word again? Nevertheless, put up or shut up...
So NASA indeed does see a whole lot more clearly than they have let on. Probably same goes with the equipment that resolves us camouflage here on earth as well.
@dbootsthediva My pleasure! I'm glad to see there are those out there willing to understand that NASA hasn't been a very reliable, or honest organization. That they have misplaced the trust of the American public is evident in their slew of faked space missions, and limited sharing of their findings, photos, videos, and other tidbits of information kept from public view! Anyone who can think clearly, will realize they have been ripped off of their hard-earned taxdollars! Thank you dboots!!
@un4g1v3n1 Well not sure what you are referring to of slew of faked space missions but I agree that NASA hides alot of their technology advancements from the public NASA also has an agenda to help maintain military superiority and technology keeps advancing in which to help achieve the end game goals. Take care
@dbootsthediva Well, please don't watch any of my videos then, because I'm afraid you may not want to admit some stuff to yourself. BUT, just go watch and listen intensely to the launches of certain missions. Start with the full video/audio of Alan Shepard. Then the Apollo launches. Pay close attention to the lack of any background noise from the rocket engine, the lack of stress, and vibration in the voices of the astronauts. Then compare with shuttle transmissions and video during launch!
It shouldn't take you long to understand they weren't aboard any rocket being shot into space by the sound, tone, and stressless voices emitted during launch. Then take a google stroll down, RADIOACTIVE MOON ...lane, and KILLER ELECTRON avenue....Don't forget to stop by DEADLY RADIATION in SPACE street, and VAN ALLEN BELT, MAGNETOSPHERE way...ANd while your at it, jump on down to GAMMA RAY BURST circle!
@un4g1v3n1 Well just don't know. I guess their must be no such thing as geosynchronous Satellite's either then in your mind. You do know they did atomic testing in the VAN ALLEN BELTS in the late 50's that also placed satellites in which to record , map n measure KILLER ELECTON avenue, RADIATION space street and magnetometer's in which to show them the way???? Everything is a learning experience to get to the next phase.
@dbootsthediva Satellites are not HUMAN FLESH! And yes, I'm aware of Operation Dominic. What does any of that have to do with DEATH DOSES OF RADIATION IN SPACE?
@un4g1v3n1 Well they had to have an understanding of which MATERIALS COULD POSSIBLY WITHSTAND A DEATH DOSE (n freezing too) then. They didn't pull that data out of a hat U don't get to advance rockets n satellites without gaining knowledge of what was needed for all those machine's to be capable of working and to have knowledge that all it's electronics would continue working after it cleared the DEATH DOSE OF RADIATION IN SPACE. Operation Dominic was in the 60,s, in the 50's it was ARGUS
@dbootsthediva "freezing too" -153°C during the night. Oh, but you’re going to want to keep some cool weather clothes too, since the temperature of the Moon in the day can rise to 107°C
You see, even without the DEATH DOSE OF RADIATION IN SPACE, which is DEADLY TO HUMAN FLESH....You have temperatures which are too extreme for human habitation on the moon. You see in a man-made atmosphere, such as inside a spacecraft/suit, those temperatures will KILL YOU! Is that beyond your comprehension?
@un4g1v3n1 So u have no belief that mankind has been capable to advance knowledge of material sciences by the late 60's? Or that they were capable of dropping a robotic device on the moon in which to give them feedback to base their material sciences on?? Mankind got those celsius calculations from a machine. You do know that the first computer was invented 1942 n developed by 1946, right? R u aware it aided the US in doing calculations for the hydrogen bomb , right?
@dbootsthediva WTF does unmanned missions have to do with the Apollo fraud, except maybe being used to map the moon, for developing the faked images used to create the fraud in the first place?
I'm aware that the computing ability of the LEM is surpassed by that of a modern day calculator. And yet the con artists of NASA would still keep you ignorantly believing in the Apollo Fairy Tale. Even after admitting to all the DEADLY RADIATION IN SPACE and as part of the LUNAR SURFACE itself.
@un4g1v3n1 You keep going back to the DEADLY RADIATION IN SPACE Well if they know how to measure it they know how to deal with it. I wasn't referencing the LEM computer of Apollo so why r u?? R u really comparing it to a frigging calculator??? R u trying to pretend/downplay that all the computer advancements made since developing the first computer in 1946 into the 70's was nothing more than advancing a mere modern day calculator and that's about all their was to computers?
Twisting what I am saying...I'm saying that the LEM was a piece of shit, incapable of calucations that would have made it possible to even FLY. Arnstrong, and three other space fakers nearly died trying to fly it on EArth...Then we are suppose to believe they went to the fucking moon a quarter of a million miles away and navigated landings and take-offs, SIX TIMES FLAWLESSLY. You have to be an idiot to believe that shit! COME ON?
@un4g1v3n1 Okay, so missions that were UNMANNED, their rockets,computers,cameras n 4,000 measuring instruments doing calculations WERE NOT PIECES OF SHIT n that technology was okay to make it possible for SPACEFLIGHT to happen, right? Just that none of that advanced computer etc. tech that made unmanned mach10+ spaceflight a reality could of been used in any form of a manned mission, right? Okay So do u also believe a UFO landed in Roswell n gov has been covering up that truth as well?
@dbootsthediva "Okay So do u also believe a UFO landed in Roswell n gov has been covering up that truth as well?" It doesn't matter...The fact remains that cislunar space is not suitable for human DNA. The radiation will knock electrons out of their orbits, and break DNA strands. It will do all sorts of horrid things to a physical being. Even with the advanced technology we have today, including hardening techniques used to protect electronics, we still lose satellites...RIGHT?
@un4g1v3n1 Exactly! A piece of shit that a model aircraft boy would have been ashamed to call his own handiwork because of all the scotch tape required to keep it together!
@debunxagain "You wouldn't be trying to deceive people by making them think they're going to see some kind of legitimate space news video, would you?"
No, I don't work for NASA, so I would never deceive people into thinking anything. People have the right to make up their minds for themselves. I've merely pointed out the lies of psychotic PANS over the years that photographing stars in space is impossible, especially without over-exposing the subjects. If you can't get that, so be it!
Do you realize now that the bright light isn't the sun? It is a light on the robotic arm. Did you see the picture from this same set which shows this light at the same position on the arm but in a completely different star field? The sun doesn't move like that, you know.
The earth is uniformly lit in this picture. You show two other pictures with the sun and horizon in view, and both of them show strong contrast between the day and night regions of the surface. Why doesn't your picture?
@cornodib "The earth is uniformly lit in this picture. You show two other pictures with the sun and horizon in view, and both of them show strong contrast between the day and night regions of the surface. Why doesn't your picture?"
Good question....Maybe you should write the PHOTO editors of NASA and ask them why they blot out all the stars most all of the time? Why don't you ask them why they practically never show videos, and photos of LEO with the stars in them?
@un4g1v3n1 NASA didn't blot out stars. Neither did the space agencies of China, Europe, Japan, and India. Surely you aren't suggesting that stars were somehow blocked out from thousands of hours of video from the ISS and space shuttle.
But I was really more interested in how your bright light could be the sun when it never comes anywhere near that part of the sky. And no, it doesn't matter where you are on earth or if you're in orbit.
@cornodib Here's another little ditty for you to wrap what's left of your mind around dibster...Have you ever seen NASA's virtual reality equipment for rehearsing/practicing shuttle/ISS missions?
If so, can you tell me how to prove that the pictures that NASA puts up for PUBLIC INGESTION, are not generated from virtual reality screen captures, rather than actual missions? You obviously can't prove it. All you can do is speculate and take the word of KNOWN LIARS who faked APOLLO!
@un4g1v3n1 Also, can you think of any reason why NASA would publish pictures with stars in them if they were so intent on being consistent with the Apollo photos? Do you suppose they just forgot to conceal the Pettit photos? Then left them up on their site for a few years? But resumed blocking out stars in all other photos since that time? Then forgot again for these photos?
@cornodib Yep....NASA is in the business of mind fucking, and putting spy satellites in orbit for military, and other nefarious reasons. NASA should be disbanded, before they breed more morons like yourself!
@un4g1v3n1 "Why don't you ask them why they practically never show videos, and photos of LEO with the stars in them?"
Don't need to. I already know the answer. So does anyone with any knowledge of photography. Stars will NEVER be seen in photos or video with the sun or sunlit objects in the field of view. None of the examples you've ever shown had any sunlit objects (or sunlit earth) in them. That includes your "Yes, Virginia..." video.
@cornodib So, the Earth in this picture, in your opinion is not lit by the sun. Another example of why PAN's remain the most moronic people on the planet. Not only do you lie, but you lie for liars, theives, and cowards. Which makes you one of them yourself. Welcome to the land of the idiots. Enjoy your stay, and the new cone shaped hat you'll have to wear for the rest of your lying, cowardly existence!
As far as we know, the PICTURES and VIDOES of the ISS, and SPACE SHUTTLE EXPLOITS in SPACE could be nothing more than the video feed from their SIMULATIONS, (virtual reality rehearsals) rather than whatever they are really DOING up there. We know they have place multiple spy satellites....It's painfully obvious they have also broken treaties and place military applications in space as well. So, the quicker NASA is disbanded, the better for peaceful, civilian space exploration!
Big shout out to roamingcroat for linking to this video...For those unfortunate enough to have sat through it, let me point out a couple of things...
1. he says it's a daylight pass..but then ignores the fact the Earth is lit up as if by the SUN, but tries to pass of an albedo of 8% as sufficient for LIGHTING UP THE EARTH from 250 thousand miles away. He also ignores the constant PAN lie that stars will not show up without washing out, or overexposing the subject/EARTH/SHUTTLE.
2. He tried to tell me the sun was the moon, then tells me it's a light on the ISS? After enough of his bullshit, I'd had enough. If he would have been honest, and quit lying, and altering his story, he could have stayed. But since he kept spamming, and refuses to answer the simple question about the fact that stars are visible, without overexposure on the subject, he could have stayed to spalin that. Guess like most PANS, they can only lie and deceive. His comparison doesn't include EARTH!
3. I don't suffer fools well, and I don't go comment on their videos, as I have no desire to give them the attention trolls like RC desperately seek! I gave him the benefit of the doubt at first, until he proved he had no interest in being direct, and truthful! Don't expect a comment or reply RC! You keep believing in those Apollo Fairy Tales all you want. Maybe one day, even Santa will show up with at least a lump of coal for ya!
@prosperomage Why indeed! And that's one question of three of the same anomoly. The answer is in the question...WHY NO STARS? What the hell is NASA hiding, or is it the dumb ass answer ARMSTRONG gave back in 69 at the post-flight press conference that has NASA CONSTANTLY LYING AND HIDING THE AMAZING VIEW, and EASILY PHOTOGRAPHED STARS!!!!!????
@prosperomage I answered your first question, NOW, you answer mine! watch?v=Es-HEsI6N0I Listen to the man describe the fact that the video was taken with a television camera on a moonlit night. Listen to him describe the atmosphere, and stars shining...EVEN RIGHT THROUGH THE ATMOSPHERE! Listen to him describe how scientists want to get their TELESCOPES past that layer. Then ask yourself why NASA didn't PUT TELESCOPES on the MOON, during APOLLO. The fraud is so BLATANT!!!
@un4g1v3n1, I asked myself a long time ago (like about 35 years ago) why NASA wouldn't put telescopes on the moon. The answer is pretty obvious:
It would be stupidly silly to put spend much effort putting telescopes on the moon.
There would be zero advantage over being in low earth orbit. They would be horrendously expensive to maintain. And a decent sized telescope (like the size of Hubble) would be difficult to land without damaging it (it would be MUCH more sensitive than a manned lander).
@prosperomage " I asked myself a long time ago (like about 35 years ago) why NASA wouldn't put telescopes on the moon. The answer is pretty obvious" So, you were too stupid to ask yourself the simple question that they didn't put telescopes on the moon, because they didn't go to the moon. GULLIBLE MUCH? That answer is even more obvious! And yet their 'retroreflectors" work 40 years plus later? AMAZING! Not one meteorite in all those years to destroy any of them? Stupidly sill? LOL!
@prosperomage Since you seem to enjoy looking at pictures of space, you may want to enjoy ones that INCLUDE THE FUCKING STARS! So, enjoy this one as well! watch?v=N3lYQ8MJyvw "The House Appropriations commerce, justice, science subcommittee approved a 2012 spending bill July 7 that would give NASA $16.8 billion, or $1.6 billion less than it received for 2011 and nearly $2 billion less than the White House requested for the agency for next year." CONT...
18.4 billion for 2011, and we can't even get some thrilling videosof the EARTH, MOON, and FUCKING STARS from LOW EARTH ORBIT? I say FUCK NASA,! Take their existing programs, and sell them off to the highest civilian agency bidders! Remove the bureaucracy, and the money spent for jackasses to keep lying to the public....Get REAL SPACE missions on track with civilian interests, who won't PISS MONEY AWAY, on projects that are FAKE, and add nothing to our true understanding of space!
@un4g1v3n1 -- And I definitely agree with you about NASA (and all government programs) being horrendously wasteful and most of these things would be much better off being done by private agencies without stealing money from us all.
But I thought the discussion was whether stars should necessarily appear in photographs taken outside of Earth's atmosphere. So I'm still curious about why independent observers (like in video yYguYgCNoY0 ) don't see stars when they go above 95% of the atmosphere.
@prosperomage Well, for one, they aren't actually in orbit, like our shuttle and ISS is suppose to be. Two, I have no idea what type of setting they have on their video cameras. Three, it seems they aren't orienting them straight up into space.....Instead they have them oriented to shoot the curvature of the Earth. Now, did you watch the two viideos with stars? And what do you make of them? And why doesn't NASA do more videos like them? It seems a simple request for our 18 billion a year!
@un4g1v3n1 -- For $18 billion a year, I don't care one way or another whether I see some stars in the background and I doubt you really do either. We're just trying to figure out if the rest of what they are doing is what they say it is. So:
- The balloons are above about 95% of the atmosphere so the air there vs. in space really isn't an issue.
- And, if we're comparing to Apollo photos, then "oriented to shoot the curvature of Earth" is similar to "oriented to shoot the surface."
@prosperomage "And, if we're comparing to Apollo photos, then "oriented to shoot the curvature of Earth" is similar to "oriented to shoot the surface." YOUR LOGIC IS DIZZYING....seriously...ALL they had to do, and DID DO, was point their cameras up, which they did...and still not one star showed up! And the earth was about 1/4 of the size it should have been. The fact your critical thinking skills cannot fathom that NASA lied, and faked it, is the only thing wrong with you! NASA LIED!
@un4g1v3n1 -- Are you telling me that the only other point you are making in this whole thing consists of: "I have no idea what type of setting they have on their video cameras"??
So you are saying that the difference in whether stars are seen in the background perhaps just depends on the setting on the camera.
OK. I guess that's reasonable.
And yes, I saw the other two videos with stars. What settings did they have on the cameras? And how did it compare to the balloon flights? or Apollo?
@prosperomage No, you've missed the points completely! I guess comprehension is a problem for you! 1. MORONIC PAN'S have consistenly lied about stars being impossible to see in photos without the subjects being over-exposed. Now either this PHOTO is another NASA fraud, or the PAN lies are outed at last!
2. NASA spends billions a year on "space exploits" and we can't even get some decent shots, or videos from LEO, without them BLACKING OUT THE STARS, to keep the APOLLO LIE ALIVE!
@prosperomage NOW LET ME FURTHER EXPLAIN, so you don't have to rely on your reading comprehensions skills! You see, if you would take the time to investigate the APOLLO FAIRY TALE, you'll find that they couldn't take pictures of stars, because amateur astronomers would have outed their fake star backdrop. So, they used a black backdrop for the sky. Then, when asked about the stars, both ARMSTRONG, and COLLINS stuck their foots in their milli vanilli astronut mouths! DO YOU GET IT NOW?
So, now NASA continues to BLACK OUT THE SKY, on nearly all their PHOTOS, and videos. WITH THE EXCEPTION OF A FEW, that somehow made it to public view. So, when those of us who wish to get a view of what space really looks like, we get a rather FLUSH, and EXCITED feeling in our ANXIOUSLY WAITING REAL SPACE PHOTO/VIDEO HEARTS! NASA and it's NAZI beginnings have no place in REAL SPACE EXPLORATION, as the elitist bastards lie, and decieve their FINANCIAL BACKERS! US taxpayers!!!
America is the land of Deception. They are stuffed and the kind of Agenda they have got going for mankind is Evil. Armstrong is a Turd. Hate em all. Hollywood propaganda crap . !!!!
@Easydollars The entire world is full of deceptions...Not just the good ole USA...Although we have more money to have more ELABORATE deceptions. I'm afraid Jarrah, myself, and many other researchers into Apollo, and NASA's other shenanigans, are thrown off-base from time to time, because of their elaborate deceptions as it were. The next LUNARCY production is going to be a doozy....It seems the deceptions didn't stop once the shuttle program began. I'm hard at work on it NOW!
Long exposures on the night side of Earth will include stars? Shocking!
The photo is a crop of ISS028-E-016368 (which, mind you, is hardly the first photo of stars taken from the ISS). Digital cameras are nice in that they usually save metadata about the camera settings. A rather salient point here is that this photo was taken with a 4 second exposure at f/4 and ISO 6400 making it irrelevant to Apollo shots.
Imagine how washed out that image would be if taken during a daylight pass.
@roamingcroat A couple more relevant points: The picture was taken at 8:42 PM GMT on July 14. The reason the Earth can be so clearly seen during this nighttime pass is because the full Moon (99.77% illumination) is lighting the scene. Per Wolfram Alpha, the ISS was very nearly over the western edge of Australia at the time. If the exposure settings weren't proof enough that this was a night pass, the fact that it was 4:42 AM WST should make that obvious.
@roamingcroat The reason the Earth can be so clearly seen during this nighttime pass is because the full Moon (99.77% illumination) Wow, you see, this is the reason people usually see right through PAN logic. The moon, with it's 8% albedo is ILLUMINATING the ENTIRE EARTH, as if in daylight. So the BLUE which we clearly see under the clouds, is a MOON LIT NIGHT? NOT A DAYLIT BLUE? On your way to debriefing from you current propaganda run on this video, you should stop by the optometrists!
@un4g1v3n1 "The moon, with it's 8% albedo is ILLUMINATING the ENTIRE EARTH"
Certainly. This is obvious to anyone who has stepped outside in a moderately dark area during a full Moon. That 8% albedo is actually very bright, and it casts very strong shadows. In fact, try taking a 4 second, f/4, ISO-6400 picture during a full Moon. Betcha it'll look like day.
"NOT A DAYLIT BLUE?"
Well, the blue of the atmosphere is. Under the clouds is water.
@roamingcroat NASA has alot of splaining to do...They never will! But they should! When the facts get out that most of their images come from their virtual reality training videos, rather than actual space missions, I believe their gooses are going to be cooked. It took awhile to get it, but thanks to analyzing the photos you brought to my attention. The problem was simple. You can't trust an organization which has been lying to the public from DAY 1!
@roamingcroat Well, well. Finally someone shows up to SHED THE LIGHT, as it seems RC is ATTEMPTING TO DO. Now. let's take a look at that picture, real quick now shall we and see how WRONG RC is. RC attempts to convince us that this is the night side of the Earth. And yet, when we look at the EARTH, we see it LIT UP, with a blue sky, indicative of DAYLIGHT. Not only that, but we see what in yonder sky? I do declare, it is the sun!
@roamingcroat In case you missed the first post in response to your nonsense....IT IS A DAYLIGHT PASS, as can be seen by the LIT UP EARTH, and SUN clearly visible right next to the arm of the ISS! Now, imagine how surprised people will be when they see you trying to bullshit them on something they can see with their own eyeballs? I thank you for proving the type of delusional posts we have come to expect from APOLLO FAIRY TALE BELIEVERS! And no over-exposure while trying to capture stars?HMM!
Presumably you hadn't yet read my explanation of how we know it was, in fact, a night pass.
"and SUN clearly visible right next to the arm of the ISS!"
My best guess is that that is the Moon, although it could also be a light on the SSRMS. Determining which it actually is would require some extra analysis.
"Now, imagine how surprised people will be..."
I suspect that if they understand how and when the picture is taken, they'll know you're mistaken.
@un4g1v3n1 A few other ways to verify the exposure settings in the metadata:
There's a fairly large amount of noise, as would be expected with an ISO-6400 image. Unfortunately, I don't know how to quantify this, so this stays as a qualitative assessment.
Motion blur is evident in the clouds on Earth, while completely non-existent on Atlantis or ISS structure. A similar photo (ISS-028-E-016131) shows no motion blur on the clouds and no stars either for f/9, 1/320, ISO-200.
@roamingcroat The motion blur can therefore be safely said to indicate a shutter speed of above 1/320s.
And finally, after looking at a few pictures, I do believe that the "Sun" (or what I said was probably the Moon) is, in fact, a light on the RMS. I say this because similar photos from different days (ISS028-E-016952, ISS028-E-016955, ISS028-E-017393, amongst others) show a light at that location as well, making it unlikely to be a natural light (Sun or Moon).
@roamingcroat "I do believe that the "Sun" (or what I said was probably the Moon) is, in fact, a light on the RMS" Okay...So, I guess you are going to drop the ole NGHT SIDE OF THE EARTH stuff, or do you maintain that stance, even though it's painfully obvious to you by now that the Earth is well lit? I find your ignoring this fact, in light of your past post quite telling in and of itself. Better off to deflect eh?
@un4g1v3n1 "Okay...So, I guess you are going to drop the ole NGHT SIDE OF THE EARTH stuff"
Not at all. The fact that the RMS arm light is on is even more evidence this is a night pass. Why would you think I'm dropping the night pass stuff?
You know, I'm a simple man. In fact, forget the metadata. If you tell me how an obviously long exposure (look at the clouds) like that wouldn't be overblown by any one of the cameras on the, I'll drop it.
Now I have to plan on recording a scene or two from the so called lunar missions which also show a few stars in the blackness. Maybe they poked some holes in the back drop.
@ISamuelII Oh, there are tons of holes being poked into APOLLO these days! LOL! Take a stab, my friend...You can't poke a stick anywhere near Apollo anymore without some very fine, large holes, already pre-dug into it! Apolloscoffin was nailed shut years ago. We just keep pounding, more and more convincing nails into the sucker! Too bad the majority of the world is so dumbed down they can't figure it out for themselves, and add their own nails!!
These google tube bastards have already blocked this in GERMANY! Here's the copyright claim!
Your video, LUNARCY NEWS FROM SPACE UPDATE (STARS PHOTOGRAPHED IN LOW EARTH ORBIT) , may include content that is owned or administered by these entities:
Entity: SME Content Type: Sound Recording
I'll be adding a link to where those of you in Germany can watch this! Dammit googletube is ruining everything!
IF you have an awesome musical piece you would allow me to use for this video, PM me!
To reveal the TRUTH by nasa would be their $ downfall $ and that of believers in the lies. So they must bully and wallow others in their bullshit as they pretend to be brave and patriotic, while Real Patriotic Americans suffer and die everyday for faked scientific events, like men in the moon, shrimp treadmills, government deficits and $50,000 toilet seats!
Someone claimed stars can't be photographed without over-exposing? I didn't even know that. The problem I had with these Apollo supporters, was the claim you could not SEE stars from dayside Earth orbit, if you looked towards the deep space (away from the Sun). That is such an incredible statement!
Yeah, good no over exposure photos showing stars quite nicely.
@Aurinkohirvi You are quite right Auri! And am I right in thinking that this is what we are seeing? The Earth seems to be lit up here, indicating they are ON THE DAYLIGHT SIDE OF THE EARTH. We clearly see our SUN as a much bigger and brighter STAR in the SKY...Alongside all the other STARS visible from LEO from the DAYLIGHT side of the MOON!
Thank you for pointing that out! I can't believe it slipped my mind. Of course Melville had opened that can of worms a long time ago!
@MultiRec If you've seen his funny little excuse for a debunk to this video, you'll notice his first, and most obvious piece of idiocy. His lack of understanding of space. It's always night beyond our atmosphere....If only his imagination, or a semblence of intelligence would show itself, we could stop laughing at his moronic, and continual attempts at explaining away the obvious blunders which show Apollo as the fraud it most certainly was!
un4g1v3n1 3 months ago
cant be any simpler really.
awakenlilrabbit 4 months ago
Know how I have a winner with this one? For one, ole AB2 the duck went out of his way to ridicule it...Two, he used all his sockpuppet accounts to vote it down...Sad little troll that duckboy is!
un4g1v3n1 5 months ago
@un4g1v3n1
Is this faked or real ?
kennjohnsen 4 months ago
@kennjohnsen Hard to tell. I copied some more pictures from the same reel, and there are some odd things about some of them. I'm going to do a video about it soon, but the duck needs some edumacating first. Either way, it's painfully obvious that taking pictures of stars in the BLACK SKY above the atmosphere, sun in them or not, is merely a simple task that NASA seems to avoid at all cost...USUALLY. I wouldn't be surprised if nearly all photos they release are from their virtual reality sim.
un4g1v3n1 4 months ago
Interesting work brother thanks for the upload.
Peace to you
awe130 5 months ago
@awe130
great comment awe
staIkervision 3 months ago
Hmm. I don't get it. The bright spot is always at the same place of the Canadarm, but the star field moves between fotos. What's more, according to my good old rotating hand held star chart, the sun doesn't even move through that constellation, so it can't be the sun.
WackyAmoebatrons 5 months ago
@WackyAmoebatrons You might want to look again. Close in on the SUN, and see that it is BEHIND the canadarm, not in front, or on it...With NASA, it could be just another of their montage of faked photos they show the dumbed down masses to appease them, and keep their funding!
un4g1v3n1 5 months ago
@edmfw Us HOAX NUTS, as you so elegantly put it, don't profess to have been into the deadly radiation surrounding our planet and coming from multiple sourcesin the UNIVERSE. That is the job of the Apollo astronuts, and the morons who refuse to admit what our own ASTRO/SOLAR physicists know to be true, and have been revealing in science programs, over and over again. Us HOAX NUTS, merely point out that TRUTH, while admitting to ourselves that APOLLO HAS TO BE A HOAX. Your EGO is unable to do so!
un4g1v3n1 6 months ago
@un4g1v3n1 Heheh, you get a thumbup for the morphing lander effect...lol
btw, I have been out this past few weeks looking at planets with my telescope. It occured to me that I saw (and photographed) a planet in the sky AFTER sunrise. So, I would assume that in a lunar morning, you should be able to see and photograph the same. You can see where this thinking goes, in regards to the "no stars" question: it is the wrong question.
"Where are the planets?" That is the better question...
cliffspc 6 months ago
@cliffspc Yes...the planets and stars did not exist back in the Apollo era. They were only visible from the Earth back then. Reaching for the stars only happened in Hollywood in the sixties and seventies. God bless BUck Rogers!
un4g1v3n1 6 months ago
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blockloser 6 months ago
@blockloser You can't take over the truth. It is what it is, and these guys can create a million sockpuppet accounts...Nothing will change the truth, and those who haven't got their heads up their asses will see it quite easily, regardless of the duck's gobblygook on the net!
un4g1v3n1 6 months ago
@dbootsthediva watch?v=Bqv4q35QqUg Start at the 4 minute 35 second mark for the particulars about the VAB and how satellites are placed in relation to them....also hear what they have to say about what the VAB's can do to humans.. I am aware we have loads of satellites out there monitoring everything from space weather, to where Russian nuclear submarines are positioned. The fact still remains, as you'll notice from the video I've pointed out here, that radiation is DEADLY in SPACE! GET IT?
un4g1v3n1 6 months ago
@un4g1v3n1 Your arguments r getting less n less valid. moon landing remember not sun landing. So u give video link to episodes about the SUN inferring if we tried to walk towards SUN without protection we would become burned up. KEYWORD PROTECTION PARTICULARS @4:18 MARK-SHE STATES PROTECTING ASTRONAUTS FROM POTENTIAL HARMFUL RADIATION - at 4:35 says OUTSIDE OF PROTECTION OF EARTH, RADIATION COULD PROVE DEADLY IF HUMANS R NOT PROPERLY PROTECTED = get it not deadly IF protected bye
dbootsthediva 6 months ago
@dbootsthediva Wow...And I thought you were serious, and had a real head on your shoulders. Guess you prefer your Apollo delusions, and to blow the NASA bone! Oh well...Too bad! Delude yourself all you want! Obviously the guy telling you that without protection, YOUR DEAD just doesn't sink in for you. And he is a solar physicist. I thought you'd listen to what the experts say, but you want to twist it around like an average PAN troll. Too bad! So long, and enjoy your Apollo Fairy Tales!
un4g1v3n1 6 months ago
@debunxagain Put the shit on your background and stop with the bullshit antics. The light is not on the structure, you are too stupid with bullshit. It is so clear that it is not. First you idiots say it is impossible to photograph stars for all those idiotic ass reasons and now NASA has proven it against a bright ass earthshine with an Aurora that could be view differently from space, when is the last time you checked that? Or did you take NASA's word again? Nevertheless, put up or shut up...
GUARDIANtrooper 6 months ago
So NASA indeed does see a whole lot more clearly than they have let on. Probably same goes with the equipment that resolves us camouflage here on earth as well.
thanks for uploading this
dbootsthediva 6 months ago
@dbootsthediva My pleasure! I'm glad to see there are those out there willing to understand that NASA hasn't been a very reliable, or honest organization. That they have misplaced the trust of the American public is evident in their slew of faked space missions, and limited sharing of their findings, photos, videos, and other tidbits of information kept from public view! Anyone who can think clearly, will realize they have been ripped off of their hard-earned taxdollars! Thank you dboots!!
un4g1v3n1 6 months ago
@un4g1v3n1 Well not sure what you are referring to of slew of faked space missions but I agree that NASA hides alot of their technology advancements from the public NASA also has an agenda to help maintain military superiority and technology keeps advancing in which to help achieve the end game goals. Take care
dbootsthediva 6 months ago
@dbootsthediva Well, please don't watch any of my videos then, because I'm afraid you may not want to admit some stuff to yourself. BUT, just go watch and listen intensely to the launches of certain missions. Start with the full video/audio of Alan Shepard. Then the Apollo launches. Pay close attention to the lack of any background noise from the rocket engine, the lack of stress, and vibration in the voices of the astronauts. Then compare with shuttle transmissions and video during launch!
un4g1v3n1 6 months ago
It shouldn't take you long to understand they weren't aboard any rocket being shot into space by the sound, tone, and stressless voices emitted during launch. Then take a google stroll down, RADIOACTIVE MOON ...lane, and KILLER ELECTRON avenue....Don't forget to stop by DEADLY RADIATION in SPACE street, and VAN ALLEN BELT, MAGNETOSPHERE way...ANd while your at it, jump on down to GAMMA RAY BURST circle!
Peace, and truth to you and yours!!!
un4g1v3n1 6 months ago
@un4g1v3n1 Well just don't know. I guess their must be no such thing as geosynchronous Satellite's either then in your mind. You do know they did atomic testing in the VAN ALLEN BELTS in the late 50's that also placed satellites in which to record , map n measure KILLER ELECTON avenue, RADIATION space street and magnetometer's in which to show them the way???? Everything is a learning experience to get to the next phase.
dbootsthediva 6 months ago
@dbootsthediva Satellites are not HUMAN FLESH! And yes, I'm aware of Operation Dominic. What does any of that have to do with DEATH DOSES OF RADIATION IN SPACE?
un4g1v3n1 6 months ago
@un4g1v3n1 Well they had to have an understanding of which MATERIALS COULD POSSIBLY WITHSTAND A DEATH DOSE (n freezing too) then. They didn't pull that data out of a hat U don't get to advance rockets n satellites without gaining knowledge of what was needed for all those machine's to be capable of working and to have knowledge that all it's electronics would continue working after it cleared the DEATH DOSE OF RADIATION IN SPACE. Operation Dominic was in the 60,s, in the 50's it was ARGUS
dbootsthediva 6 months ago
@dbootsthediva "freezing too" -153°C during the night. Oh, but you’re going to want to keep some cool weather clothes too, since the temperature of the Moon in the day can rise to 107°C
You see, even without the DEATH DOSE OF RADIATION IN SPACE, which is DEADLY TO HUMAN FLESH....You have temperatures which are too extreme for human habitation on the moon. You see in a man-made atmosphere, such as inside a spacecraft/suit, those temperatures will KILL YOU! Is that beyond your comprehension?
un4g1v3n1 6 months ago
@un4g1v3n1 So u have no belief that mankind has been capable to advance knowledge of material sciences by the late 60's? Or that they were capable of dropping a robotic device on the moon in which to give them feedback to base their material sciences on?? Mankind got those celsius calculations from a machine. You do know that the first computer was invented 1942 n developed by 1946, right? R u aware it aided the US in doing calculations for the hydrogen bomb , right?
dbootsthediva 6 months ago
@dbootsthediva WTF does unmanned missions have to do with the Apollo fraud, except maybe being used to map the moon, for developing the faked images used to create the fraud in the first place?
I'm aware that the computing ability of the LEM is surpassed by that of a modern day calculator. And yet the con artists of NASA would still keep you ignorantly believing in the Apollo Fairy Tale. Even after admitting to all the DEADLY RADIATION IN SPACE and as part of the LUNAR SURFACE itself.
un4g1v3n1 6 months ago
@un4g1v3n1 You keep going back to the DEADLY RADIATION IN SPACE Well if they know how to measure it they know how to deal with it. I wasn't referencing the LEM computer of Apollo so why r u?? R u really comparing it to a frigging calculator??? R u trying to pretend/downplay that all the computer advancements made since developing the first computer in 1946 into the 70's was nothing more than advancing a mere modern day calculator and that's about all their was to computers?
dbootsthediva 6 months ago
@dbootsthediva People like you amaze me! Really...
Twisting what I am saying...I'm saying that the LEM was a piece of shit, incapable of calucations that would have made it possible to even FLY. Arnstrong, and three other space fakers nearly died trying to fly it on EArth...Then we are suppose to believe they went to the fucking moon a quarter of a million miles away and navigated landings and take-offs, SIX TIMES FLAWLESSLY. You have to be an idiot to believe that shit! COME ON?
un4g1v3n1 6 months ago
@un4g1v3n1 Okay, so missions that were UNMANNED, their rockets,computers,cameras n 4,000 measuring instruments doing calculations WERE NOT PIECES OF SHIT n that technology was okay to make it possible for SPACEFLIGHT to happen, right? Just that none of that advanced computer etc. tech that made unmanned mach10+ spaceflight a reality could of been used in any form of a manned mission, right? Okay So do u also believe a UFO landed in Roswell n gov has been covering up that truth as well?
dbootsthediva 6 months ago
@dbootsthediva "Okay So do u also believe a UFO landed in Roswell n gov has been covering up that truth as well?" It doesn't matter...The fact remains that cislunar space is not suitable for human DNA. The radiation will knock electrons out of their orbits, and break DNA strands. It will do all sorts of horrid things to a physical being. Even with the advanced technology we have today, including hardening techniques used to protect electronics, we still lose satellites...RIGHT?
un4g1v3n1 6 months ago
@un4g1v3n1 Exactly! A piece of shit that a model aircraft boy would have been ashamed to call his own handiwork because of all the scotch tape required to keep it together!
Kenmorfdublin 6 months ago
@Kenmorfdublin LOL, exactly!!!
un4g1v3n1 6 months ago
@debunxagain "You wouldn't be trying to deceive people by making them think they're going to see some kind of legitimate space news video, would you?"
No, I don't work for NASA, so I would never deceive people into thinking anything. People have the right to make up their minds for themselves. I've merely pointed out the lies of psychotic PANS over the years that photographing stars in space is impossible, especially without over-exposing the subjects. If you can't get that, so be it!
un4g1v3n1 6 months ago
Do you realize now that the bright light isn't the sun? It is a light on the robotic arm. Did you see the picture from this same set which shows this light at the same position on the arm but in a completely different star field? The sun doesn't move like that, you know.
The earth is uniformly lit in this picture. You show two other pictures with the sun and horizon in view, and both of them show strong contrast between the day and night regions of the surface. Why doesn't your picture?
cornodib 6 months ago
@cornodib "The earth is uniformly lit in this picture. You show two other pictures with the sun and horizon in view, and both of them show strong contrast between the day and night regions of the surface. Why doesn't your picture?"
Good question....Maybe you should write the PHOTO editors of NASA and ask them why they blot out all the stars most all of the time? Why don't you ask them why they practically never show videos, and photos of LEO with the stars in them?
un4g1v3n1 6 months ago
@un4g1v3n1 NASA didn't blot out stars. Neither did the space agencies of China, Europe, Japan, and India. Surely you aren't suggesting that stars were somehow blocked out from thousands of hours of video from the ISS and space shuttle.
But I was really more interested in how your bright light could be the sun when it never comes anywhere near that part of the sky. And no, it doesn't matter where you are on earth or if you're in orbit.
cornodib 6 months ago
@cornodib Here's another little ditty for you to wrap what's left of your mind around dibster...Have you ever seen NASA's virtual reality equipment for rehearsing/practicing shuttle/ISS missions?
If so, can you tell me how to prove that the pictures that NASA puts up for PUBLIC INGESTION, are not generated from virtual reality screen captures, rather than actual missions? You obviously can't prove it. All you can do is speculate and take the word of KNOWN LIARS who faked APOLLO!
un4g1v3n1 6 months ago
@un4g1v3n1 Also, can you think of any reason why NASA would publish pictures with stars in them if they were so intent on being consistent with the Apollo photos? Do you suppose they just forgot to conceal the Pettit photos? Then left them up on their site for a few years? But resumed blocking out stars in all other photos since that time? Then forgot again for these photos?
Do you have an expmanation for that?
cornodib 6 months ago
@cornodib Yep....NASA is in the business of mind fucking, and putting spy satellites in orbit for military, and other nefarious reasons. NASA should be disbanded, before they breed more morons like yourself!
un4g1v3n1 6 months ago
@un4g1v3n1 "Why don't you ask them why they practically never show videos, and photos of LEO with the stars in them?"
Don't need to. I already know the answer. So does anyone with any knowledge of photography. Stars will NEVER be seen in photos or video with the sun or sunlit objects in the field of view. None of the examples you've ever shown had any sunlit objects (or sunlit earth) in them. That includes your "Yes, Virginia..." video.
I believe you've been told this many times.
cornodib 6 months ago
@cornodib So, the Earth in this picture, in your opinion is not lit by the sun. Another example of why PAN's remain the most moronic people on the planet. Not only do you lie, but you lie for liars, theives, and cowards. Which makes you one of them yourself. Welcome to the land of the idiots. Enjoy your stay, and the new cone shaped hat you'll have to wear for the rest of your lying, cowardly existence!
un4g1v3n1 6 months ago
These aren't stars, but simply «space debris». ;))
xzktplm 7 months ago
@xzktplm Funny! Guess you are joking, since they are admittedly stars according to NASA's own depiction description.
un4g1v3n1 7 months ago
@un4g1v3n1 Of course, man. Isn't «space debris» quoted? ;))
xzktplm 7 months ago
As far as we know, the PICTURES and VIDOES of the ISS, and SPACE SHUTTLE EXPLOITS in SPACE could be nothing more than the video feed from their SIMULATIONS, (virtual reality rehearsals) rather than whatever they are really DOING up there. We know they have place multiple spy satellites....It's painfully obvious they have also broken treaties and place military applications in space as well. So, the quicker NASA is disbanded, the better for peaceful, civilian space exploration!
un4g1v3n1 7 months ago
Big shout out to roamingcroat for linking to this video...For those unfortunate enough to have sat through it, let me point out a couple of things...
1. he says it's a daylight pass..but then ignores the fact the Earth is lit up as if by the SUN, but tries to pass of an albedo of 8% as sufficient for LIGHTING UP THE EARTH from 250 thousand miles away. He also ignores the constant PAN lie that stars will not show up without washing out, or overexposing the subject/EARTH/SHUTTLE.
un4g1v3n1 7 months ago
2. He tried to tell me the sun was the moon, then tells me it's a light on the ISS? After enough of his bullshit, I'd had enough. If he would have been honest, and quit lying, and altering his story, he could have stayed. But since he kept spamming, and refuses to answer the simple question about the fact that stars are visible, without overexposure on the subject, he could have stayed to spalin that. Guess like most PANS, they can only lie and deceive. His comparison doesn't include EARTH!
un4g1v3n1 7 months ago
3. I don't suffer fools well, and I don't go comment on their videos, as I have no desire to give them the attention trolls like RC desperately seek! I gave him the benefit of the doubt at first, until he proved he had no interest in being direct, and truthful! Don't expect a comment or reply RC! You keep believing in those Apollo Fairy Tales all you want. Maybe one day, even Santa will show up with at least a lump of coal for ya!
un4g1v3n1 7 months ago
@un4g1v3n1 -- Cool. Just one question:
Why are there no stars visible at 0:37 and 0:40 and 0:42 ??
prosperomage 7 months ago
@prosperomage Why indeed! And that's one question of three of the same anomoly. The answer is in the question...WHY NO STARS? What the hell is NASA hiding, or is it the dumb ass answer ARMSTRONG gave back in 69 at the post-flight press conference that has NASA CONSTANTLY LYING AND HIDING THE AMAZING VIEW, and EASILY PHOTOGRAPHED STARS!!!!!????
un4g1v3n1 7 months ago
@un4g1v3n1 -- OK, then ... next question:
Why are there no stars in these pictures: watch?v=yYguYgCNoY0 or watch?v=BfHRM2YSl0s
or these: watch?v=gfgOYsWnisk or watch?v=uASGDZfUSjE
Did NASA hide all the stars from everyone?
prosperomage 7 months ago
@prosperomage I answered your first question, NOW, you answer mine! watch?v=Es-HEsI6N0I Listen to the man describe the fact that the video was taken with a television camera on a moonlit night. Listen to him describe the atmosphere, and stars shining...EVEN RIGHT THROUGH THE ATMOSPHERE! Listen to him describe how scientists want to get their TELESCOPES past that layer. Then ask yourself why NASA didn't PUT TELESCOPES on the MOON, during APOLLO. The fraud is so BLATANT!!!
un4g1v3n1 7 months ago
@un4g1v3n1, I asked myself a long time ago (like about 35 years ago) why NASA wouldn't put telescopes on the moon. The answer is pretty obvious:
It would be stupidly silly to put spend much effort putting telescopes on the moon.
There would be zero advantage over being in low earth orbit. They would be horrendously expensive to maintain. And a decent sized telescope (like the size of Hubble) would be difficult to land without damaging it (it would be MUCH more sensitive than a manned lander).
prosperomage 7 months ago
@prosperomage " I asked myself a long time ago (like about 35 years ago) why NASA wouldn't put telescopes on the moon. The answer is pretty obvious" So, you were too stupid to ask yourself the simple question that they didn't put telescopes on the moon, because they didn't go to the moon. GULLIBLE MUCH? That answer is even more obvious! And yet their 'retroreflectors" work 40 years plus later? AMAZING! Not one meteorite in all those years to destroy any of them? Stupidly sill? LOL!
un4g1v3n1 7 months ago
@prosperomage Since you seem to enjoy looking at pictures of space, you may want to enjoy ones that INCLUDE THE FUCKING STARS! So, enjoy this one as well! watch?v=N3lYQ8MJyvw "The House Appropriations commerce, justice, science subcommittee approved a 2012 spending bill July 7 that would give NASA $16.8 billion, or $1.6 billion less than it received for 2011 and nearly $2 billion less than the White House requested for the agency for next year." CONT...
un4g1v3n1 7 months ago
18.4 billion for 2011, and we can't even get some thrilling videosof the EARTH, MOON, and FUCKING STARS from LOW EARTH ORBIT? I say FUCK NASA,! Take their existing programs, and sell them off to the highest civilian agency bidders! Remove the bureaucracy, and the money spent for jackasses to keep lying to the public....Get REAL SPACE missions on track with civilian interests, who won't PISS MONEY AWAY, on projects that are FAKE, and add nothing to our true understanding of space!
un4g1v3n1 7 months ago
@un4g1v3n1 -- And I definitely agree with you about NASA (and all government programs) being horrendously wasteful and most of these things would be much better off being done by private agencies without stealing money from us all.
But I thought the discussion was whether stars should necessarily appear in photographs taken outside of Earth's atmosphere. So I'm still curious about why independent observers (like in video yYguYgCNoY0 ) don't see stars when they go above 95% of the atmosphere.
prosperomage 7 months ago
@prosperomage Well, for one, they aren't actually in orbit, like our shuttle and ISS is suppose to be. Two, I have no idea what type of setting they have on their video cameras. Three, it seems they aren't orienting them straight up into space.....Instead they have them oriented to shoot the curvature of the Earth. Now, did you watch the two viideos with stars? And what do you make of them? And why doesn't NASA do more videos like them? It seems a simple request for our 18 billion a year!
un4g1v3n1 7 months ago
@un4g1v3n1 -- For $18 billion a year, I don't care one way or another whether I see some stars in the background and I doubt you really do either. We're just trying to figure out if the rest of what they are doing is what they say it is. So:
- The balloons are above about 95% of the atmosphere so the air there vs. in space really isn't an issue.
- And, if we're comparing to Apollo photos, then "oriented to shoot the curvature of Earth" is similar to "oriented to shoot the surface."
prosperomage 7 months ago
@prosperomage "And, if we're comparing to Apollo photos, then "oriented to shoot the curvature of Earth" is similar to "oriented to shoot the surface." YOUR LOGIC IS DIZZYING....seriously...ALL they had to do, and DID DO, was point their cameras up, which they did...and still not one star showed up! And the earth was about 1/4 of the size it should have been. The fact your critical thinking skills cannot fathom that NASA lied, and faked it, is the only thing wrong with you! NASA LIED!
un4g1v3n1 7 months ago
@un4g1v3n1 -- Are you telling me that the only other point you are making in this whole thing consists of: "I have no idea what type of setting they have on their video cameras"??
So you are saying that the difference in whether stars are seen in the background perhaps just depends on the setting on the camera.
OK. I guess that's reasonable.
And yes, I saw the other two videos with stars. What settings did they have on the cameras? And how did it compare to the balloon flights? or Apollo?
prosperomage 7 months ago
@prosperomage No, you've missed the points completely! I guess comprehension is a problem for you! 1. MORONIC PAN'S have consistenly lied about stars being impossible to see in photos without the subjects being over-exposed. Now either this PHOTO is another NASA fraud, or the PAN lies are outed at last!
2. NASA spends billions a year on "space exploits" and we can't even get some decent shots, or videos from LEO, without them BLACKING OUT THE STARS, to keep the APOLLO LIE ALIVE!
un4g1v3n1 7 months ago
@prosperomage NOW LET ME FURTHER EXPLAIN, so you don't have to rely on your reading comprehensions skills! You see, if you would take the time to investigate the APOLLO FAIRY TALE, you'll find that they couldn't take pictures of stars, because amateur astronomers would have outed their fake star backdrop. So, they used a black backdrop for the sky. Then, when asked about the stars, both ARMSTRONG, and COLLINS stuck their foots in their milli vanilli astronut mouths! DO YOU GET IT NOW?
un4g1v3n1 7 months ago
So, now NASA continues to BLACK OUT THE SKY, on nearly all their PHOTOS, and videos. WITH THE EXCEPTION OF A FEW, that somehow made it to public view. So, when those of us who wish to get a view of what space really looks like, we get a rather FLUSH, and EXCITED feeling in our ANXIOUSLY WAITING REAL SPACE PHOTO/VIDEO HEARTS! NASA and it's NAZI beginnings have no place in REAL SPACE EXPLORATION, as the elitist bastards lie, and decieve their FINANCIAL BACKERS! US taxpayers!!!
un4g1v3n1 7 months ago
America is the land of Deception. They are stuffed and the kind of Agenda they have got going for mankind is Evil. Armstrong is a Turd. Hate em all. Hollywood propaganda crap . !!!!
Easydollars 7 months ago
@Easydollars The entire world is full of deceptions...Not just the good ole USA...Although we have more money to have more ELABORATE deceptions. I'm afraid Jarrah, myself, and many other researchers into Apollo, and NASA's other shenanigans, are thrown off-base from time to time, because of their elaborate deceptions as it were. The next LUNARCY production is going to be a doozy....It seems the deceptions didn't stop once the shuttle program began. I'm hard at work on it NOW!
un4g1v3n1 7 months ago
Looking Forward to the next episode.
Easydollars 7 months ago
Long exposures on the night side of Earth will include stars? Shocking!
The photo is a crop of ISS028-E-016368 (which, mind you, is hardly the first photo of stars taken from the ISS). Digital cameras are nice in that they usually save metadata about the camera settings. A rather salient point here is that this photo was taken with a 4 second exposure at f/4 and ISO 6400 making it irrelevant to Apollo shots.
Imagine how washed out that image would be if taken during a daylight pass.
roamingcroat 7 months ago
@roamingcroat A couple more relevant points: The picture was taken at 8:42 PM GMT on July 14. The reason the Earth can be so clearly seen during this nighttime pass is because the full Moon (99.77% illumination) is lighting the scene. Per Wolfram Alpha, the ISS was very nearly over the western edge of Australia at the time. If the exposure settings weren't proof enough that this was a night pass, the fact that it was 4:42 AM WST should make that obvious.
roamingcroat 7 months ago
@roamingcroat The reason the Earth can be so clearly seen during this nighttime pass is because the full Moon (99.77% illumination) Wow, you see, this is the reason people usually see right through PAN logic. The moon, with it's 8% albedo is ILLUMINATING the ENTIRE EARTH, as if in daylight. So the BLUE which we clearly see under the clouds, is a MOON LIT NIGHT? NOT A DAYLIT BLUE? On your way to debriefing from you current propaganda run on this video, you should stop by the optometrists!
un4g1v3n1 7 months ago
@un4g1v3n1 "The moon, with it's 8% albedo is ILLUMINATING the ENTIRE EARTH"
Certainly. This is obvious to anyone who has stepped outside in a moderately dark area during a full Moon. That 8% albedo is actually very bright, and it casts very strong shadows. In fact, try taking a 4 second, f/4, ISO-6400 picture during a full Moon. Betcha it'll look like day.
"NOT A DAYLIT BLUE?"
Well, the blue of the atmosphere is. Under the clouds is water.
roamingcroat 7 months ago
@roamingcroat NASA has alot of splaining to do...They never will! But they should! When the facts get out that most of their images come from their virtual reality training videos, rather than actual space missions, I believe their gooses are going to be cooked. It took awhile to get it, but thanks to analyzing the photos you brought to my attention. The problem was simple. You can't trust an organization which has been lying to the public from DAY 1!
un4g1v3n1 7 months ago
@roamingcroat Well, well. Finally someone shows up to SHED THE LIGHT, as it seems RC is ATTEMPTING TO DO. Now. let's take a look at that picture, real quick now shall we and see how WRONG RC is. RC attempts to convince us that this is the night side of the Earth. And yet, when we look at the EARTH, we see it LIT UP, with a blue sky, indicative of DAYLIGHT. Not only that, but we see what in yonder sky? I do declare, it is the sun!
un4g1v3n1 7 months ago
@roamingcroat In case you missed the first post in response to your nonsense....IT IS A DAYLIGHT PASS, as can be seen by the LIT UP EARTH, and SUN clearly visible right next to the arm of the ISS! Now, imagine how surprised people will be when they see you trying to bullshit them on something they can see with their own eyeballs? I thank you for proving the type of delusional posts we have come to expect from APOLLO FAIRY TALE BELIEVERS! And no over-exposure while trying to capture stars?HMM!
un4g1v3n1 7 months ago
@un4g1v3n1 "IT IS A DAYLIGHT PASS"
Presumably you hadn't yet read my explanation of how we know it was, in fact, a night pass.
"and SUN clearly visible right next to the arm of the ISS!"
My best guess is that that is the Moon, although it could also be a light on the SSRMS. Determining which it actually is would require some extra analysis.
"Now, imagine how surprised people will be..."
I suspect that if they understand how and when the picture is taken, they'll know you're mistaken.
roamingcroat 7 months ago
@un4g1v3n1 A few other ways to verify the exposure settings in the metadata:
There's a fairly large amount of noise, as would be expected with an ISO-6400 image. Unfortunately, I don't know how to quantify this, so this stays as a qualitative assessment.
Motion blur is evident in the clouds on Earth, while completely non-existent on Atlantis or ISS structure. A similar photo (ISS-028-E-016131) shows no motion blur on the clouds and no stars either for f/9, 1/320, ISO-200.
roamingcroat 7 months ago
@roamingcroat The motion blur can therefore be safely said to indicate a shutter speed of above 1/320s.
And finally, after looking at a few pictures, I do believe that the "Sun" (or what I said was probably the Moon) is, in fact, a light on the RMS. I say this because similar photos from different days (ISS028-E-016952, ISS028-E-016955, ISS028-E-017393, amongst others) show a light at that location as well, making it unlikely to be a natural light (Sun or Moon).
roamingcroat 7 months ago
@roamingcroat "I do believe that the "Sun" (or what I said was probably the Moon) is, in fact, a light on the RMS" Okay...So, I guess you are going to drop the ole NGHT SIDE OF THE EARTH stuff, or do you maintain that stance, even though it's painfully obvious to you by now that the Earth is well lit? I find your ignoring this fact, in light of your past post quite telling in and of itself. Better off to deflect eh?
un4g1v3n1 7 months ago
@un4g1v3n1 "Okay...So, I guess you are going to drop the ole NGHT SIDE OF THE EARTH stuff"
Not at all. The fact that the RMS arm light is on is even more evidence this is a night pass. Why would you think I'm dropping the night pass stuff?
You know, I'm a simple man. In fact, forget the metadata. If you tell me how an obviously long exposure (look at the clouds) like that wouldn't be overblown by any one of the cameras on the, I'll drop it.
roamingcroat 7 months ago
WOW ! Look at them damm stars! They are beautiful.
HeyTheGigIsUp 7 months ago
Now I have to plan on recording a scene or two from the so called lunar missions which also show a few stars in the blackness. Maybe they poked some holes in the back drop.
ISamuelII 7 months ago
@ISamuelII Oh, there are tons of holes being poked into APOLLO these days! LOL! Take a stab, my friend...You can't poke a stick anywhere near Apollo anymore without some very fine, large holes, already pre-dug into it! Apolloscoffin was nailed shut years ago. We just keep pounding, more and more convincing nails into the sucker! Too bad the majority of the world is so dumbed down they can't figure it out for themselves, and add their own nails!!
un4g1v3n1 7 months ago
You got em...! lol
NASA, Never a bloody straight Answer..! All their fake missions are a smoke screen for what really goes on...!
SovereignBeing 7 months ago
HALLELUJAH!!!!!!!!
GUARDIANtrooper 7 months ago
These google tube bastards have already blocked this in GERMANY! Here's the copyright claim!
Your video, LUNARCY NEWS FROM SPACE UPDATE (STARS PHOTOGRAPHED IN LOW EARTH ORBIT) , may include content that is owned or administered by these entities:
Entity: SME Content Type: Sound Recording
I'll be adding a link to where those of you in Germany can watch this! Dammit googletube is ruining everything!
IF you have an awesome musical piece you would allow me to use for this video, PM me!
un4g1v3n1 7 months ago
@un4g1v3n1 AWESOME VIDEO DUDE! Where are the trolls? I guess it is time to go hunting...
GUARDIANtrooper 7 months ago
@un4g1v3n1
To reveal the TRUTH by nasa would be their $ downfall $ and that of believers in the lies. So they must bully and wallow others in their bullshit as they pretend to be brave and patriotic, while Real Patriotic Americans suffer and die everyday for faked scientific events, like men in the moon, shrimp treadmills, government deficits and $50,000 toilet seats!
EGMAG 7 months ago
Let's see the paid shills at Mythbusters talk about this!
beastshawnee 7 months ago
Someone claimed stars can't be photographed without over-exposing? I didn't even know that. The problem I had with these Apollo supporters, was the claim you could not SEE stars from dayside Earth orbit, if you looked towards the deep space (away from the Sun). That is such an incredible statement!
Yeah, good no over exposure photos showing stars quite nicely.
Aurinkohirvi 7 months ago
@Aurinkohirvi You are quite right Auri! And am I right in thinking that this is what we are seeing? The Earth seems to be lit up here, indicating they are ON THE DAYLIGHT SIDE OF THE EARTH. We clearly see our SUN as a much bigger and brighter STAR in the SKY...Alongside all the other STARS visible from LEO from the DAYLIGHT side of the MOON!
Thank you for pointing that out! I can't believe it slipped my mind. Of course Melville had opened that can of worms a long time ago!
un4g1v3n1 7 months ago