ok!! your name is fyromians or peones.Ancient peones you was when we was as we are now Macedonians,so peones,... in greek "peos" is the Dick.. and i think..that for you state-village the right name is peonia or peograd or peos direkt.!have a nice dreaming Peomians.
@macedon238 Shut the fuck up monkey gypsy queen,are you jealous or what? Don't you see the title of the video ? FYROM vs GREECE ? Isn't this one ? FUCK OFF.Every day I will be confessing my deep love to her.She is making my day.FUCK OFF AGAIN pufta.
trcate po nas da ni kazite deka sme bile bugari, toa e nase pravo kako ke se vikame i ni go dade cel svet ako bratmi ne me saka i saka da si go smeni prezimeto jas ke trcam po nego i ke kazuvam na site deka toj e moj brat ??? of lele male. Toa e svrsena rabora mkaedonija postoi kako legitimna drzava so narod shto ne saka da se deklarira kako bugarski ami makedonski. Edno shto mozeme sega e da ziveem kako dobri komsii i da ne barame cija niva bila cija i da otkopuvame grobovi
a be deca chovek da se pukne od smeja so vas, ja barate tragata a mechkata e pred vas.
Bosanskite muslimani shto se po nacinalnost?....srbi ...neli taka. A kako se narekuvaat? ....Bosanci. ima li nekoj shto im go osporuva toa... I sega ke otkopuvame grobovi i ke barame tapii .. cija niva bila cija pred 100 godini. Sekoj e sloboden da se opredeli kako shto saka. I fala bogu svetot ne e kako vas i ni go dade toa pravo, nie ne sakame da sme so bugarija i ne sakame da se vikame bugari i shto tuku -
Macedonia was never a region of Greece,on the contrary,ancient Greece was subjected to the Macedonians when Alexander conquered Greece in 338 B.C. In 1913 modern Greece and her SLAVIC ALLIES partitioned Macedonia. Today a portion [51%] belongs to Greece it is by virtue of an illegal partition of the whole occupation of the MACEDONIANS. GO TO GOOGLE and TYPE-IN :...... "macedonia before 1913".
@MultiBulgarin you really want to say to the rest of the world that if i come to your monkeydonian village and i speak in bulgarian nobody will understand me?????but iif i speak greek (that is macedonian) noone will uinderstand me you history fakers!!!!
@ThePetardaProduction i m sorry friend...you just wrote in bulgarian...do you have any other language..mmm...lets say ancient macedonian???can you really read what the sriptures on these ancient macedonian say????NO ..and you know why???cause you re bulgarian.but i know a nation of 10 million souls that can read those scriptures.they are all greek macedonians.does it bother you that you live a rented life and a rented culture???does it bother you a lot that you dont have history?gypsyalbanian
@strakastrukas thats not a Bulgarian language you idiot.. are you blind or something ..go Google translate the sentence on Bulgarian language and you'll see the difference :).. and excuse me the ancient Macedonian language its a dead language ..do you who claim that are ..ancient Macedonian ..and ancient Greeks and god knows what else ..speak that language?! ..and don't even try to tell me that the ancient Macedonians were speaking Greek language ..:) ..
@acki93 THE MACEDONIANS SPOKE O N L Y THE GREEK LANGUAGE...I m really sorry to protest against your propaganda slav inhabitant of the balkans...but the macedonians didnt pop out in the balkans...we are here for over 2300 years.not for the last 800 years....and by the way since its a dead language omg!!! the macedonian language...in school dont they learn u something about it???ancient greek is dead lets say but we learn it...u???u dont have a clue u stupid monkey history stealer...
@strakastrukas ok dude you as a nation are not so clean after all this years ..you think that after all wars ..and nations that were on this Balkan ..you still are the same people since those 2300 years ago.. and even if you are the Athenian in that period were against the Macedonians.. so its not possible that we steal your history cause you are not ancient macedonians .
@strakastrukas the slaves came to the Macedonian territory 1800 (not 800) years ago in the 7th century.. the nation mixed up.. and the language changed ..but there is still some ancient macedonian culture in us ..and ancient macedonian blood ..unlike you :))
Не е това отговора.Сложи си ръка на сърцето и си го речи-защото сте забравили корена си и сте се посърбили повечето,затова.Защото още ви терсе Стокхолмския синдром на похитителя и ги тачите.А историята говори друго,съвсем друго...ама кой да чете
@grafavt2011 кој корени ..македонија после цар Самоил ..цело време било поробувана де од Бугарија, де од Србија.. за кој корени ми збориш ти?? ..јас имам само едни корени тоа се МАКЕДОНСКИ ... незнам зашто толку сте се фатиле околу таа србија ( која ако те интересира неможам да ја поднесам) со која немаме никаква допирна точка. тоа што последен пат сме спаднале под нејзина окупација т.с под југославија.. не значи дека сме срби.. не тропај глупости XD
Абе момче заблудено.За кой цар Самуил ми говориш?За онзи дето са изболи очите на войнците му ли?!За този дето се е поболял от мъка като ги е видял ли?Та нали техният мъчител навсякъде по света е известен като Василий II-Българоубиец.Спрете вече с тези долни фалшификации,че ме е срам от вас.Прогледнете най-сетне.Не бъдете слепи като Самуиловите войници-ослепени от враговете на България
@grafavt2011 да за тој ти зборам ..и нема што да ти е срам од нас ..кога ти не си поврзан со нас никако ..ти си бугарин.. каква врска имаш ти со мене??
А ти какъв си?Такъв какъвто са ти казали,че си,или такъв какъвто сочи историята като наука..Ако трябва да сме точни,Македонска нация и език са създадени през 1944г.,от Тито комунистите,с подкрепата на Коминтерна и с УКАЗ.От 1913 до 1944 сте били Сръбска Бановина,а след 1944 Югославска република,та до 1991.Самостоятелната ви история е 20 години.Много или малко прецени сам.Въпросът е в друго.В така нареченият "Идентитет"Такъв,така наречен "македонски" няма и никога не е имало
@grafavt2011 ххахах ..како може вештачки нација тито да направи?? ти дали си нормален бе ..македонскиот народ од секогаш постоел ..само што бил под бугарска или српска окупација цел живот.. немале да не ослободат после распаѓањето на југославија да не сме биле посебен народ.. ке сме останеле исто како косово во тој случај.... не тропај глупости .. кога јас имам македонски јазик и култура тоа логично ме прави МАКЕДОНЕЦ ... не ги слушај ти антимакедонистите што ви ја полнат глатава ;)
Момче,прочети по-внимателно и от външни източници за войводите и комитите на ВМРО.Всички до един са се определяли като българи,има колкото искаш документи в Интернет.И как тогава,сте били "македонци",когато тези дето са били начело на съпротивата срещу Патриаршията,тези дето са създали Екзархията през 1870 официално и тези дето с оръжие в ръка са се били срещу турците са си биле българи.Ти от логика и от история нещо отбираш ли друже?Чети много и вярвай на ума и очите си!
@grafavt2011 vidi sega golem del od tie luge bile ili prisileni da se potpisat kako bugari ..ili morale toa da go napravat za da im pomogne bugarija protiv osmanliskata okupacija.. ima mnogu knigi kade tie istite luge logicno si se deklariraat kako makedonci i zborat protiv bugarskiot,srpskiot i grckiot rezim....i se zalagaat za makedonski standarden jazik..:))
Виж сега,в 1870г,когато след близо 50 годишни борби се създава Екзархията и султана подписва ферман за това все още не е имало държава България,биле сме под Турско.Не ти издържа логиката момче.Няма кой да принуди тези хора да се пишат българи,при положение,че все още няма държавна структура.А в 1941 окупираме Сръбска Бановина Македония,има разлика,нали.И навсякъде войските се посрещат със развети български знамена,цветя и без пушка да пукне.Казах ти,чети ако си интелигентен!
Ами може.Това е било един от начините,едно от многото течения.Това е старата ни слабост.Много вожд,малко индианец и всеки иска той да е напред,да е на неговото,той да води башина дружина.Още Гоце Делчев го е казал това
@ronkasss ne moze site tie luge sto se borele za nezavisna makedonija bas site da imale ista cel..a da bile bugari ..ne bidi smesen idi procitaj i stranski izvori ke vidis deka sekade gi pisuvaat kako makedonci ..zatoa sto se ..:)
Това е било един от начините,имало е много течения и групи.Едни са искали освобождение с помоща на България,други автономия(автономисти) в рамките на Османската империя и по-късно присъединяване към България.Трети федералисти(с подкрепата на задграничните дружества)са издигали лозунга"Независима Македония" и са искали сами да се освободят и после да се присъединят и много други течения.Общото е,че всички те до един са се декларирали като българи
@grafavt2011 zosto bi se deklarirale kako bugari ako sakale nezavisna teritorija?!.tie ako bile pravi "bugari" .ili "patrioti" ..cim se borele tolku mnogu protiv turskiot rezim .sigurno ke sakale da se obedinat so bugarija. ama cim ne go pravele toa ..cim se borele za nezavisna makedonija samoto toa ti kazuva deka bile pravi makedonci koi sto si ja sakale nacijata i se borele za nea. a tie sto se borele za obedinuvanje so bugarija bile tie koi podlegnale na bugarskiot togasen rezim!
Виж какво.Това,което ти казваш са интерпретации,на това което на тебе ти се иска да е било.Има наука,наричаща се история.Тя борави с факти,с документи,с архиви,с доказателства.И те са категорични по въпроса за това като какви са се усещали всички патриоти дали живота си за това свято дело-Освобождението на Македония и обединението на българския народ.Били са си българи.Чети,има колкото искаш документи,на каквито искаш езици.Никъде няма да намериш и намек за македонска нация
@grafavt2011 hahah sum videl ja mnogu gokumenti i knigi kade.site tie luge si se borat za sopstveniot makedonski identitet.nemalo makedonska nacija zatoa sto sme bile celo vreme ili pod vasa ili pod srpska ili pod osmanliska okupacija.i vo prviot moment koga sme se oslobodile mislite site (a pogotovo vie bugarite).deka imate pravo na nas.. ama mislam deka razlikite i faktite vo realnosta se i poveke od ocigledni :). ne go kazuvam toa sto mi odgovara go kazuvam toa sto e ocigledno :)
Я почакай малко.Кога сте били под наша окупация?За да има окупация трябва да има държава и друга държава да я превземе(окупира).Айде сега бъди така добър и ми кажи кога точно е станало това.Кога е имало държава Македония,която да е била окупирана?Чакам с нетърпение отговора с точната дата или година:)))
@grafavt2011 првата македонска држава настанала негде 7,8 век пред нашата ера.. после следела византиска окупација, после самоилово царство (976-1018) ...потоа следела османлиската окупација.. потоа балканските војни на 8 октомври 1912 каде македонија е поделена (каде што вие сте се испотепале со србите затоа што ви бил мал делот што сте го земале од македонија)
@acki93 Яс сакам да те прашам, кои се биле кралете на оваа прва македонска држава?
И после, само некои македонски историчари (дури не сите) велат дека Самоиловото царство е македонско. Па, последниот цар на ова царство е бил Пресиян II. Прашал ли си се кой е бил Пресиян I? Той e бил таткото на бугарскиот крез Борис I, кой испрака свети Климент во Охрид да создаде книжевната школа таму. А слушал ли си за Битолскиот натпис на Йован-Владислав?
@morensokol epa cekaj malce ..dali znaes ti deka vo vremeto koga vladeel car Samoil deka veke postoelo oformeno bugarsko carstvo na vlast so Simeon I ?? ..Kako e mozno da postojat dve bugarski carstva vo ist period?! ..ocigledno e deka vo carstvoto na samoil se naogale poveke drzavi ..del od crna gora ,bugarija, makedonija i albanija.. ama glavnata prestolnina bila ohrid ..Makedonija... zatoa i se narekuva makedonski car
@acki93 Вероятно си jа прочел оваа информациja во статиjата за Самуил во mk.wikipedia. Симеон I е царувал 100 години преди Самуил, од 893 до 927. Провери ли за Битолскиот натпис и Пресиjaн? И зашто не ми одговараш на ова што те прашах за македонските крале?
А "цар"значи "император". Оваа титула не се заработва леко. Симеон I е првиот бугарски цар (татко му е кнез). Признат е за цар 913г. след като обсажда Константинопол. Царе се и неговите наследници. А коj е првиот македонски цар?
@morensokol Prviot makedonski kral..bil kralot na anticka makedonija Perdika I..a vo sreden vek edenistven car koj vladeel so makedonija kolku sto e poznato e Samoil.. a Simeon I e toj sto ja osvoil makedonija od vizantija i taka sme podpadnale pod bugarska vlast. megutoa koga krenale vostanie sinovite na knez Nikola (David,Mojsej,Aron i Samoil) ja otfrlile bugarskata vlast i kako edeinstven ziv ostanat sin..car Samoil gi postavil temelite na prvata makedonska srednovekovna drzava :)
@acki93 Прво, лесно е да провериш дека Македония е била дел од Бугария од преди времето на кнез Борис I, таткото на Симеон (той пратил Климент во Охрид да основе книжевната школа).
Второ, чини ми се дека дури македонистката версия на историята не познаваш. След Самоил, царе са Гаврил-Радомир, Йован-Владислав и Пресиян II. Никой не спори за тоа.
А ако Самоил е прв цар на средновековна Македония, како е добил титулата цар, а не бил крал или кнез? И провери ли за Битолскиот натпис?
@acki93 pasha razbudise malku, 1991 kiro gligorov prv presednig, koj 8 oktomvri koja 1912 i plus na seto toa MKD uste ne vie priznata od strana na Grcija, a i drugo imas li slusnato za Republika Vevcani?? i taa ke vi ja zemaaat hahaha:) from Austria
@acki93 batka ova e vaka kiro vi ja spasi ova drzava, ako ja zemese milosevic pod noze, ni ti, ni nikoj drug ne ke mozese ova drzava da vi ja spasi vo 1991. ova e istorija od FYROM. a se drugo e dzaba.. i gledajte malce K15 tije se najrealni.. oti politicarite sto najdoja izebaja, od site samo kradat danoci. PAARI. a nije ovde ke si pcujeme eden na drug..
@grafavt2011 .потоа вардарскиот дел на македонија продолжил да се осамостојува како (Демократска Федерална Македонија 1944 - 1946 , па Народна Република Македонија 1946 - 1963, Социјалистичка Република Македонија 1963 - 1991.. се до распадот на југославија каде конечно е прогласена првата независна република македонија 1991 година :))
От всичките глупости дето ги избълва единственото вярно нещо е че сте създаден 1944 като нация и то с УКАЗ от Тито,с натиск на Коминтерна и под бащинското намигване на бащицата на народите Сталин.Всичко друго са безпочвени демагогии и долни фалшификации.Де са биле царете Ви,де е бил народът Ви,та в ни един сериозен исторически извор да не се споменава?Изчезнал за някакви си 23-24 века и после възкръснал?По-големи глупости от тези не бях чувал
@grafavt2011 ajj be dosta ne tropaj guposti..vrz koja osnova ke ne osamostojat kako narod i drzava ako ne sme.. bigari sme?! -NE ...srbi sme?! -NE ..grci sme?! -NEEE ...epa togas sto sme ako ne posebna nacija.. ako ne sme makedonci??!! ..imame jazik , imame kultura.. imame teritorija.. sme postoele i ke postoime ..fakt koj i den denes e dosta ocigleden :)) toa ne mozes da go osporis ;))
Пък за документите не се излагай тука като циганин ами вземи прочети спомените на комитите и войводите на ВМРО.Всички до един са се определяли като българи и като такива са мрели по чукарите на Македония непогребани и неопети.Има хиляди документи за това и публикувани тук включително.И още в 1893 българи са създали БМОРК-Български МакедоноОдрински Революционни Комитети,първообраза на ВМРО,даже вашите "учени" напоследък го признаха.Има тук едно интервю с Васко Ефтов с ваш "учен"
@grafavt2011 a i kako sto sakas da se potpisat koga sme bile pod bugarska okupacija togas?? ..ne sme bile samostojna drzava togas za da moze da se potpise kako makedonec..nemale takva opcija ednostavno!! toa e fakt koj sto ne mozes da go osporis!!
Още древните са казали,че държава без минало няма бъдеще.И Вашите ръководители трескаво се заеха до го търсят(миналото),или т.н"Идентитет".Но как да намериш нещо което няма?И се започна една груба кражба на история от съседите и фалшифицирането й та до гротескно смешните клипове за бог Македон и за 77000 години,които има и тук като клипове и които ако не бяха толкова смешни щяха да са жалки,много,много жалки.Та Истинската Ви история е тази след 1944,другото е долен фалшификат
@strakastrukas ok so you just proved to people and to yourself how stupid and mentally retarded you are.. cause you can not make a difference between two languages :)
@acki93 its the same.bulgaria and fyrom have the same ansestors...see what was the flag of the monkeydonians before 1990..i believe was the bulgarian dragon..or i am mistaken????you are bulgarians albanians and gypsies...AND GET OUT FROM MY PART OF MACEDONIA.IS ENOUGH.otherwise the glorified greek army will come in your villages and fuck your whores sisters and mothers,....katalavaineis vlaka????
@strakastrukas dude i believe there are no mental hospitals in your country ..and that explains you behavior ;))..ahah you are sick person..go cure and fuck yourself ....XD
she should go to australia where the cruiser1073 claims he lives and beg for a wellfare (like all slavic wogs) or at least get a huge greek dick in her ugly pussy because its well known slavs can't do a job, thats why skopjean pussies come every year to makedonia. to receive a big fat thick cock. OMG she is ugly, someone to put her in jail please.
Is FYROM worth anything? Because Greece sure as shit isn't. Fucken joke of a country and Athens stinks. Women farting openly in the streets. Corrupt and plain embarrassing.
@cruiser1073 pathetic. a slavic wog is not in a position to lecture. the women farting openly in streets were your mum your sis and your brother after sexchange operation. the gases are a result of the anal, slavs like you are use to perform. wog wog
@cruiser1073 women fart only when they see monkeydonians on the street,it comes out so easily....praaaaaaaaaaaaaaaffffffffffffffff!!!!!!! hahahahahahahaha
@strakastrukas that cus u have aegean blood:) no fuck off and that is not propaganda do u have eyes??? do want me to show u pic of typical greek faces???
@VojvodaDDask lol (or should i say lolski) hey monkey hows weather in vardar banovina? have you had your banana allready?? or is it still stuck in your asshole. ethiopian???? besides you are a monkey you are a rascist aswell. this makes you a chipmonk lolski lolski!!!! what an upgrade!!!!!!!!!!!! go on monkey, sooner you will become a homo neandertaliensis. so long bitch.
OO SUCH A no life greek trollll... ahhahah THIS IS BULGARIAN IDOL NOT MACEDONIAN!!.. and this is on person not all nation.. or u wannaa see real macedonian singing?? and one greek lady Anna visi or whatever stair like pig from behind.. ARE U WANNA SEE RAL MACEDONIAN AND REAL GREEK ???/watch?v=LKRaXPYSzKY >WATch IT REAL MACEDONIAN AND REAL MACEDNIAN SONG!! GAYREEKSS U WILL NEVER HAVE MUSIC LIKE THIS, AND SINGERS LIKE THIS .. JUST FUCKN BUUZUKII SERTAKII AND FETA CHEESE!! LISTEN AND CRY!!
the greeks stole everything from the middle eastern phoenicians
and persians, alphabet, language and even mythical gods they claim as there own. Example europe and adonis are phoenician not greek. Same as alexander was and is macedonian.
@motley8oy Europe and adonis were never considered to be Greek gods.. They are just mythological figures and their names can be translated only on Greek (europe = ευρώπη = «ευρείς ώπας» which means big eyes). Alexander was macedonian but there are many ancient references to him as Hellenic kingm and of course his language was Greek - Hellenic. So get your facts straights or stfu
@MrM0dulator thats the difference between macedonian and greeks, everything greek god or not is a myth or stolen, adonis and europa were real people in Phoenicia, the word beirut comes from adonis's child he had, the first alphabet was Phoenician later adopted and modified by the greeks in other words stolen, as for only greeks can translate is a load of shit, read the bible and see where St. Paul went macedonia and greece 2 seperate lands till stolen in 1913
@motley8oy the fact is that in Skopje you create your own history. If you could speak Greek you could basically understand the language of the Great Alexander... This is not an assumption, it is a fact... IT IS THE SAME LANGUAGE... Yes we used the alphabet from Phoenicians (9th century B.C.!!), but we changed it because guess what... it had no vowels...WHERE WERE YOU IN 900B.C.?... St. Paul also send a letter to the Corinthians, so may be Corinthos is separate and yours too.. give us all a break
@motley8oy For once more you fail to answer my questions... You insist saying this bullshit about Bible... Well send me a link to what you are saying or quit it... What did St Paul say about Greece and Macedonia?? May be thats another lie that they feed you...St Paul sent epistles to corinthians, thessalonians and philipians... all 3 cities are Greek but they had a separate church back then... You are slavs, you are not macedonians and you are not greek...stop this reconstruction of history
@MrM0dulator read chapter Acts 16 in the bible already told you to, no link, find a bible thats made from paper, it says St. Paul sees in his vision a man from macedonia calling please come to macedonia to help us, he then travels to macedonia to preach christianity which makes macedonia the first country in europe to accept christianity then he travels southward to greece were he is met by a hostile crowd,
@MrM0dulator Paul revisited the churches in Macedonia, then went to Greece, where he stayed for three months. As he was about to sail to Syria, some Jews laid wait for him, so he returned through Macedonia.
@motley8oy you stupid fuck !!!we invented alphabet..go and google grammiki b. all the fyrom will be ours again and we will divide it with serbia...come on..wakke up and smell the coffee
closer to us macedonians, the lady singing if you call it that looks like a gypsy and dark hair just like greeks, everyone on the panel looks greek especially the guy's at the ends, look closely christian gypsy hellenised turks.
@BobiSim all pigs has the same face so dont blame him ! and the real macedonia is in Greece . i know that u dont know history but at least learn geography
@orcethegreat And what is the difference between scopia fyrom and bulgaria, NONE!!! You are EXACTLY THE SAME!! You fuckin dirty albanobulgarian mongols still want AEGEAN AND MACEDONIA Eh?! The fuck we gave you in balkanic wars wasn't enough eh?!
@trisnna9801 ahhahaahah how do you know that omg you realy fuck with someone.. but if macedonian dick doesnt satisify you you can always try turkish !!! xD
@orcethegreat Wow...I actually got it right? It was just a lucky guess. I just took in account how insecure Fyromian are by nature, and I figured that it comes from envying Hellenic history all these years. So I factored in that it must be a manifestation of something else. So, since some men feel that their penis is not big enough...well, that's how I did it. Simple psychology really...no big deal ;)
@trisnna9801 Hellenic history ??? what history ?? i am starting to thing that your country has stolen everything from smaller and weaker countries.. Its what the greeks do kill unarmed man and children..
@orcethegreat Ideologies form an 18 year old that knows nothing? How original of you. Try reading something outside your pro-fyrom forums that are funded by your government, little boy...and stop projecting your fears & insecurities on your southern neighbor. Who just happens to be your #1 investor & #2 trading partner. I bet your propaganda websites (that you love so much) don't mention that...do they? Of course not, they prefer you stay an uninformed fool.
@trisnna9801 #1 investor ahhahahahAHAH you dony have money ahahahahah 32 bilon eu thats how much you owe to eu union .... you are the worst country in eu .. you should start selling your country but i dont thing that even this will help.... xD
FUCK you money greedy jewish piece of shit, you are the people who are fucking Holland's originality, and spreading hate in Holland and throught Europe. Fuckface, fuck off, Europe does not need Jews to spoil Europe with all your hate and propagandas. I am sure Dutch people spit and shit on Jews like you, just like your fake Nazi leaders, who is Jewish and pretending to be Nazi.
@rocksteady3681 You lose a lot of time, hating people. So it's not hate that drives me to have these conversations. It's the fact that I can't just sit back and let someone disparage my nation's proud history, just so they can claim an ancient past that doesn't belong to them. Imagine if people from western Guyana started saying those things about your country. You wouldn't hate them, but you would certainly try to correct them.
@trisnna9801 When I talk about hate I'm not talking about one person, but about most of Greeks and Macedonians, Fyromian, people from Skopje or whatever they are. BTW, now that you bring up border issues, Guyanese got 2/3 of their current territory from my country -with the British support of course- and we're still claiming it. Actually there's an area in Venezuela called Guayana, so we're basically sharing the name. Why can't that happen between Greece and "FYROM"? I just don't get it.
@rocksteady3681 Because they're not part of that ancient history. Macedon was a Hellenic tribe. Their ancestors have no connection to the people of that time. Not in name, not in culture, not even in language. In fact...their people showed up north of the Macedonian region, a full 1,000 years after the demise of the Macedonian Empire. They're doing the same thing to the Bulgarians and their historical hero's. Just so they can feel like they have a long and glorious history. It's pathetic really.
@trisnna9801 I'm understanding now, but still, I believe in self-determination of nations so I think that people from FYROM (and every country) should be called as they want to. Don't get me wrong, my opinion is not set yet, I totally respect your point of view and probably if I were a Greek I'd say the same, but I'm trying imagine how bad must be to be hated for the name you want to use. I would like to see the other side of the coin anyway.
@trisnna9801 I'm understanding now, but still, I believe in self-determination of nations so I think that people from FYROM (and every country) should be called as they want to. Don't get me wrong, my opinion is not set yet, I totally respect your point of view and probably if I were a Greek I'd say the same, but I'm trying imagine how bad must be to be hated for the name you want to use. I would like to see the other side of the coin anyway.
@rocksteady3681 I believe in self-determination, not historical hijacking. Greece’s claim is a valid one. The region of Macedonia actually falls within 4 countries Albania, Bulgaria, FYROM and Greece. The largest part of that region falls within Greek borders. So if 52% of a region falls within the borders of one country and that country also has a province named after it, it's a bit much to have a new country emerge and try to claim exclusive right to the region’s name or historical figures?
@trisnna9801 Albanian and bulgarians know very well who Macedonian are and not complain...but one thing is for sure, Macedonians are not slav... they come to balkan 7 AC century....Macedonian history is ages and ages older.. so be real people... u are not Macedonians u are not Greeks Philippos whas Greek with Greek name like son Alexander... Aristoteles to that names have meaning in Greek language but means nothing in slavs...
@trisnna9801 You are not very knowledgable - in that region there weren't ANY greeks at all until the balkan wars. After they took that part and separated the Ottoman's Macedonia between Bulgaria, Serbia, and albania (the Buchurest's treaty) they had to invent a reason why that territory is greek. So they said 2 = 3 i.e Macedonians (ancient) are Greeks.
If you look at Ancient Macedonia's borders you will also see that that territory is not greek.
@trisnna9801 And that will be all fine, if you didn't forget to mention that Greece got that part in Balkans war, that more of 50% on that territory in that time lived Macedonians, that between two world wars Greece displaced 100 000 Macedonians to Bulgaria, brought one million from Minor Asia to that teritory, and the top of all, after Greek civil war they forced out 100,000 people from Greece, most of them children, just because they weren't Greek.
@jutubena how can you be so misinformed??the kids that were brought in northern macedonia were all greeks but communists.we had a civil war and the only country would accept was tito and yugoslavia.understand?i believe your prime minister gruefski is greek on the second generation...i m sorry u dont have any clues about history.and tell me...what about the greeks they live in fyrom???in gevgeli in stomnitsa in oxrida in monastiri...can they speak greek??or you wont let them you fascists????
@strakastrukas wait, what?? You are trying to sell this story to the world?? Unbelievable!! My grandmother WAS one of that kids that left Greece. Her family lived in the Lerin region for over 200 hundred years (recorded history), we still have the Ottomans documents that prove that the land is ours, and there is a law suit on the that matter in Greeks courts, that(imagine that) hasn't finished for over a 20 years. Now, you really, really want to sell the story that they were Greeks? Really???!
@strakastrukas OMG XD .. first of all if you come to Macedonia the first thing that you'll see it's the physical difference between 2 nations.. so than you'll know that Gruevsko or whoever does nothing to do with Greece ...and second of all the minority in macedonia has so many rights (take for example the Albanians ) so i don't believe that if there were greeks in macedonia they wouldn't be let to speak there own language..and thats the difference between us.. :)
ken lee hahahahaha libiti wthuot you
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ok!! your name is fyromians or peones.Ancient peones you was when we was as we are now Macedonians,so peones,... in greek "peos" is the Dick.. and i think..that for you state-village the right name is peonia or peograd or peos direkt.!have a nice dreaming Peomians.
greekolosos 1 week ago
who's FYROM ? i know only MACEDONIA
tonipilata 1 week ago
@tonipilata you mean MONKEYDONIA because MAKEDONIA is HELLAS and always will be....
alexisrodos 4 days ago
@ivostojanov то и на мен са ми казвали че съм македонец ама съм си чист българин
martinlisitsata 1 week ago
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The only one ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΑ to exist is GREEK more than 3000 years, slavs please stop to play with names....
andrewtsi 1 week ago
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KEN LEEEEEEEEEE tulibu dibu douchoo , KEN LEEEEEEEEE meju more. IN ENGLISH !!!I
U r my MONKEYDONIAN bitch and love.
gampcptn 2 weeks ago
@gampcptn hohohohoho she is bulgarian from bulgarian music idol , you ignorant gay g(r)eek from hell ass
macedon238 2 weeks ago
@macedon238 Shut the fuck up monkey gypsy queen,are you jealous or what? Don't you see the title of the video ? FYROM vs GREECE ? Isn't this one ? FUCK OFF.Every day I will be confessing my deep love to her.She is making my day.FUCK OFF AGAIN pufta.
gampcptn 2 weeks ago
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KEN LEEEEEEEEEE tulibu dibu douchoo , KEN LEEEEEEEEE meju more. IN ENGLISH !!!
Monkeydonian bitch,I love you.
gampcptn 2 weeks ago
THIS IS NOT FYROM OR MACEDONIA THIS IS STUPID BULGARIAN GIPSY ON BULGARIAN IDOL SHOW!! HOW STUPID CAN YOU BE TRYING TO SHOW THIS TO THE WORLD?? IDIOT
MeteorBIG 2 weeks ago
Да ми го јадете курот Блгари САМОИЛ ЕДЕН И ЕДИНСТВЕН И МАКЕДОНЕЦ
ivostojanov 2 weeks ago
@ivostojanov do you think Skopjian??
edo540i 6 days ago
This has nothing with greece or MACEDONIA, but you were probably drinking when you made the video.
Riste1986 3 weeks ago 4
@Riste1986 dont call fyrom macedonia you gypsy this is an insult for as we take it ruther seriously
GregDarkness 5 days ago
I love this ugly monkeydonian bitch.I wanna marry her.KEN LEE tulibu dibu douchoo , KEN LEE meju more. IN ENGLISH !!!!
gampcptn 3 weeks ago
I like very much this ugly Monkeydonian bitch in two points,a)(loudly) KEN
LEEEEEEEEEEEEEE !! , b)-What was that language ? -(very seriously)English !
HO-HOvskiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii,Monkeys English
gampcptn 3 weeks ago
@gampcptn she is Bulgarian :) are you that stupid :))
acki93 3 weeks ago
trcate po nas da ni kazite deka sme bile bugari, toa e nase pravo kako ke se vikame i ni go dade cel svet ako bratmi ne me saka i saka da si go smeni prezimeto jas ke trcam po nego i ke kazuvam na site deka toj e moj brat ??? of lele male. Toa e svrsena rabora mkaedonija postoi kako legitimna drzava so narod shto ne saka da se deklarira kako bugarski ami makedonski. Edno shto mozeme sega e da ziveem kako dobri komsii i da ne barame cija niva bila cija i da otkopuvame grobovi
petrovski40 4 weeks ago
a be deca chovek da se pukne od smeja so vas, ja barate tragata a mechkata e pred vas.
Bosanskite muslimani shto se po nacinalnost?....srbi ...neli taka. A kako se narekuvaat? ....Bosanci. ima li nekoj shto im go osporuva toa... I sega ke otkopuvame grobovi i ke barame tapii .. cija niva bila cija pred 100 godini. Sekoj e sloboden da se opredeli kako shto saka. I fala bogu svetot ne e kako vas i ni go dade toa pravo, nie ne sakame da sme so bugarija i ne sakame da se vikame bugari i shto tuku -
petrovski40 4 weeks ago
FYROMONKEY"s can leeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee witouchou BANANA !
FYROMSKI 1 month ago
FYROMONKKEYS CAN LEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE,
WITH OUT BANANAS
FYROMSKI 1 month ago
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LESSON 1 Megas Alexandros was king of Macedon one of the states of Greece-Plutarch
LESSON2 ALEXANDROS IS HELLENE-Demosthenes
LESSON3 Macedonia of course is a part of Greece-Strabo
LESSON4 Megas Alexandros:
As Hellenes we should not be slaves to barbarians-Callisthenes
LESSON5 Megas Alexandros made Greece the most powerful & Glorious country in the world-Pliny the Elder
LESSON6 Macedonians spoke Greek-Titus Livius
7] For I Alexander myself am by ancient descent a Greek-(Herod. IX)
FYROMSKI 1 month ago
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Macedonia1ful 1 month ago
the GREEK VERSION HA HA HA HA !!!!!
Macedonia1ful 1 month ago
Со имат ова со македонија бе лигуши едни опрани ... мамето во пичето да ви го напумпам !
TheMrdout 1 month ago
I HAVE 2 QUESTIONS
>> WHY FYROMANIACS AND BULGARIANS HAVE THE SAME NAMES?
and.. WHY THE ANCIENT GREEK LANGUAGE (same as the one Alexander the great was speaking) HAVE COMMON WORDS WITH MODERN GREEK?
idotakeliberty 1 month ago
Monkeydonian ugly bitch singing in English ????? The new monkeydonian English . Ho-ho VSKIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII.
gampcptn 1 month ago
Hahah stupid greeks,what has this with Macedonia ?
Look i have my own language !
ГРЦИ И БУГАРИ,МАЈКАТА ВО ПИЧКА ДА ВИ ЈА ЕБАМ !
Хехехе
ThePetardaProduction 1 month ago 16
@ThePetardaProduction YES YOU HAVE!!!!!!!!!! THE MONKEYLANGUANGE.OAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
mechaproject1 1 month ago
@ThePetardaProduction dumbass that was bulgarian.
MultiBulgarin 1 month ago
@MultiBulgarin you really want to say to the rest of the world that if i come to your monkeydonian village and i speak in bulgarian nobody will understand me?????but iif i speak greek (that is macedonian) noone will uinderstand me you history fakers!!!!
strakastrukas 1 month ago
@ThePetardaProduction i m sorry friend...you just wrote in bulgarian...do you have any other language..mmm...lets say ancient macedonian???can you really read what the sriptures on these ancient macedonian say????NO ..and you know why???cause you re bulgarian.but i know a nation of 10 million souls that can read those scriptures.they are all greek macedonians.does it bother you that you live a rented life and a rented culture???does it bother you a lot that you dont have history?gypsyalbanian
strakastrukas 1 month ago
@strakastrukas thats not a Bulgarian language you idiot.. are you blind or something ..go Google translate the sentence on Bulgarian language and you'll see the difference :).. and excuse me the ancient Macedonian language its a dead language ..do you who claim that are ..ancient Macedonian ..and ancient Greeks and god knows what else ..speak that language?! ..and don't even try to tell me that the ancient Macedonians were speaking Greek language ..:) ..
acki93 1 month ago
@acki93 THE MACEDONIANS SPOKE O N L Y THE GREEK LANGUAGE...I m really sorry to protest against your propaganda slav inhabitant of the balkans...but the macedonians didnt pop out in the balkans...we are here for over 2300 years.not for the last 800 years....and by the way since its a dead language omg!!! the macedonian language...in school dont they learn u something about it???ancient greek is dead lets say but we learn it...u???u dont have a clue u stupid monkey history stealer...
strakastrukas 1 month ago
@strakastrukas ok dude you as a nation are not so clean after all this years ..you think that after all wars ..and nations that were on this Balkan ..you still are the same people since those 2300 years ago.. and even if you are the Athenian in that period were against the Macedonians.. so its not possible that we steal your history cause you are not ancient macedonians .
acki93 1 month ago
@strakastrukas the slaves came to the Macedonian territory 1800 (not 800) years ago in the 7th century.. the nation mixed up.. and the language changed ..but there is still some ancient macedonian culture in us ..and ancient macedonian blood ..unlike you :))
acki93 1 month ago
@ThePetardaProduction
Ами защо и на сърбите не ебеш бе пикльо сърбомански
grafavt2011 1 month ago
@grafavt2011 затоа што србите не прават вакви глупи пропаганди и не зборат се најлошо за Македонија ..имаат осет колку толку :)
acki93 1 month ago
@acki93
Не е това отговора.Сложи си ръка на сърцето и си го речи-защото сте забравили корена си и сте се посърбили повечето,затова.Защото още ви терсе Стокхолмския синдром на похитителя и ги тачите.А историята говори друго,съвсем друго...ама кой да чете
grafavt2011 1 month ago
@grafavt2011 кој корени ..македонија после цар Самоил ..цело време било поробувана де од Бугарија, де од Србија.. за кој корени ми збориш ти?? ..јас имам само едни корени тоа се МАКЕДОНСКИ ... незнам зашто толку сте се фатиле околу таа србија ( која ако те интересира неможам да ја поднесам) со која немаме никаква допирна точка. тоа што последен пат сме спаднале под нејзина окупација т.с под југославија.. не значи дека сме срби.. не тропај глупости XD
acki93 1 month ago
@acki93
Абе момче заблудено.За кой цар Самуил ми говориш?За онзи дето са изболи очите на войнците му ли?!За този дето се е поболял от мъка като ги е видял ли?Та нали техният мъчител навсякъде по света е известен като Василий II-Българоубиец.Спрете вече с тези долни фалшификации,че ме е срам от вас.Прогледнете най-сетне.Не бъдете слепи като Самуиловите войници-ослепени от враговете на България
grafavt2011 1 month ago
@grafavt2011 да за тој ти зборам ..и нема што да ти е срам од нас ..кога ти не си поврзан со нас никако ..ти си бугарин.. каква врска имаш ти со мене??
acki93 1 month ago
@acki93
А ти какъв си?Такъв какъвто са ти казали,че си,или такъв какъвто сочи историята като наука..Ако трябва да сме точни,Македонска нация и език са създадени през 1944г.,от Тито комунистите,с подкрепата на Коминтерна и с УКАЗ.От 1913 до 1944 сте били Сръбска Бановина,а след 1944 Югославска република,та до 1991.Самостоятелната ви история е 20 години.Много или малко прецени сам.Въпросът е в друго.В така нареченият "Идентитет"Такъв,така наречен "македонски" няма и никога не е имало
grafavt2011 1 month ago
@grafavt2011 ххахах ..како може вештачки нација тито да направи?? ти дали си нормален бе ..македонскиот народ од секогаш постоел ..само што бил под бугарска или српска окупација цел живот.. немале да не ослободат после распаѓањето на југославија да не сме биле посебен народ.. ке сме останеле исто како косово во тој случај.... не тропај глупости .. кога јас имам македонски јазик и култура тоа логично ме прави МАКЕДОНЕЦ ... не ги слушај ти антимакедонистите што ви ја полнат глатава ;)
acki93 1 month ago
@acki93
Момче,прочети по-внимателно и от външни източници за войводите и комитите на ВМРО.Всички до един са се определяли като българи,има колкото искаш документи в Интернет.И как тогава,сте били "македонци",когато тези дето са били начело на съпротивата срещу Патриаршията,тези дето са създали Екзархията през 1870 официално и тези дето с оръжие в ръка са се били срещу турците са си биле българи.Ти от логика и от история нещо отбираш ли друже?Чети много и вярвай на ума и очите си!
grafavt2011 1 month ago
@grafavt2011 vidi sega golem del od tie luge bile ili prisileni da se potpisat kako bugari ..ili morale toa da go napravat za da im pomogne bugarija protiv osmanliskata okupacija.. ima mnogu knigi kade tie istite luge logicno si se deklariraat kako makedonci i zborat protiv bugarskiot,srpskiot i grckiot rezim....i se zalagaat za makedonski standarden jazik..:))
acki93 1 month ago
@acki93
Виж сега,в 1870г,когато след близо 50 годишни борби се създава Екзархията и султана подписва ферман за това все още не е имало държава България,биле сме под Турско.Не ти издържа логиката момче.Няма кой да принуди тези хора да се пишат българи,при положение,че все още няма държавна структура.А в 1941 окупираме Сръбска Бановина Македония,има разлика,нали.И навсякъде войските се посрещат със развети български знамена,цветя и без пушка да пукне.Казах ти,чети ако си интелигентен!
grafavt2011 1 month ago
@grafavt2011 kako moze covek da se deklarira kako bugarin,. a da se bori za nezavisna Makedonija?
acki93 1 month ago
@acki93 IZVINI, ALI TI KAKO SE OSECACH
jabaq1 1 month ago
@jabaq1 se osekam kako toa sto sum..kako Makedonec ..ti kako se osekas?
acki93 1 month ago
@jabaq1 АЗ СЬМ БЬЛГАРИН
jabaq1 4 weeks ago
@acki93
Ами може.Това е било един от начините,едно от многото течения.Това е старата ни слабост.Много вожд,малко индианец и всеки иска той да е напред,да е на неговото,той да води башина дружина.Още Гоце Делчев го е казал това
ronkasss 1 month ago
@ronkasss ne moze site tie luge sto se borele za nezavisna makedonija bas site da imale ista cel..a da bile bugari ..ne bidi smesen idi procitaj i stranski izvori ke vidis deka sekade gi pisuvaat kako makedonci ..zatoa sto se ..:)
acki93 1 month ago
@acki93
Това е било един от начините,имало е много течения и групи.Едни са искали освобождение с помоща на България,други автономия(автономисти) в рамките на Османската империя и по-късно присъединяване към България.Трети федералисти(с подкрепата на задграничните дружества)са издигали лозунга"Независима Македония" и са искали сами да се освободят и после да се присъединят и много други течения.Общото е,че всички те до един са се декларирали като българи
grafavt2011 3 weeks ago
@grafavt2011 zosto bi se deklarirale kako bugari ako sakale nezavisna teritorija?!.tie ako bile pravi "bugari" .ili "patrioti" ..cim se borele tolku mnogu protiv turskiot rezim .sigurno ke sakale da se obedinat so bugarija. ama cim ne go pravele toa ..cim se borele za nezavisna makedonija samoto toa ti kazuva deka bile pravi makedonci koi sto si ja sakale nacijata i se borele za nea. a tie sto se borele za obedinuvanje so bugarija bile tie koi podlegnale na bugarskiot togasen rezim!
acki93 3 weeks ago
@acki93
Виж какво.Това,което ти казваш са интерпретации,на това което на тебе ти се иска да е било.Има наука,наричаща се история.Тя борави с факти,с документи,с архиви,с доказателства.И те са категорични по въпроса за това като какви са се усещали всички патриоти дали живота си за това свято дело-Освобождението на Македония и обединението на българския народ.Били са си българи.Чети,има колкото искаш документи,на каквито искаш езици.Никъде няма да намериш и намек за македонска нация
grafavt2011 3 weeks ago
@grafavt2011 hahah sum videl ja mnogu gokumenti i knigi kade.site tie luge si se borat za sopstveniot makedonski identitet.nemalo makedonska nacija zatoa sto sme bile celo vreme ili pod vasa ili pod srpska ili pod osmanliska okupacija.i vo prviot moment koga sme se oslobodile mislite site (a pogotovo vie bugarite).deka imate pravo na nas.. ama mislam deka razlikite i faktite vo realnosta se i poveke od ocigledni :). ne go kazuvam toa sto mi odgovara go kazuvam toa sto e ocigledno :)
acki93 3 weeks ago
@acki93
Я почакай малко.Кога сте били под наша окупация?За да има окупация трябва да има държава и друга държава да я превземе(окупира).Айде сега бъди така добър и ми кажи кога точно е станало това.Кога е имало държава Македония,която да е била окупирана?Чакам с нетърпение отговора с точната дата или година:)))
grafavt2011 3 weeks ago
@grafavt2011 првата македонска држава настанала негде 7,8 век пред нашата ера.. после следела византиска окупација, после самоилово царство (976-1018) ...потоа следела османлиската окупација.. потоа балканските војни на 8 октомври 1912 каде македонија е поделена (каде што вие сте се испотепале со србите затоа што ви бил мал делот што сте го земале од македонија)
acki93 3 weeks ago
@acki93 Яс сакам да те прашам, кои се биле кралете на оваа прва македонска држава?
И после, само некои македонски историчари (дури не сите) велат дека Самоиловото царство е македонско. Па, последниот цар на ова царство е бил Пресиян II. Прашал ли си се кой е бил Пресиян I? Той e бил таткото на бугарскиот крез Борис I, кой испрака свети Климент во Охрид да создаде книжевната школа таму. А слушал ли си за Битолскиот натпис на Йован-Владислав?
morensokol 3 weeks ago
@morensokol epa cekaj malce ..dali znaes ti deka vo vremeto koga vladeel car Samoil deka veke postoelo oformeno bugarsko carstvo na vlast so Simeon I ?? ..Kako e mozno da postojat dve bugarski carstva vo ist period?! ..ocigledno e deka vo carstvoto na samoil se naogale poveke drzavi ..del od crna gora ,bugarija, makedonija i albanija.. ama glavnata prestolnina bila ohrid ..Makedonija... zatoa i se narekuva makedonski car
acki93 2 weeks ago
@acki93 Вероятно си jа прочел оваа информациja во статиjата за Самуил во mk.wikipedia. Симеон I е царувал 100 години преди Самуил, од 893 до 927. Провери ли за Битолскиот натпис и Пресиjaн? И зашто не ми одговараш на ова што те прашах за македонските крале?
А "цар"значи "император". Оваа титула не се заработва леко. Симеон I е првиот бугарски цар (татко му е кнез). Признат е за цар 913г. след като обсажда Константинопол. Царе се и неговите наследници. А коj е првиот македонски цар?
morensokol 2 weeks ago
@morensokol Prviot makedonski kral..bil kralot na anticka makedonija Perdika I..a vo sreden vek edenistven car koj vladeel so makedonija kolku sto e poznato e Samoil.. a Simeon I e toj sto ja osvoil makedonija od vizantija i taka sme podpadnale pod bugarska vlast. megutoa koga krenale vostanie sinovite na knez Nikola (David,Mojsej,Aron i Samoil) ja otfrlile bugarskata vlast i kako edeinstven ziv ostanat sin..car Samoil gi postavil temelite na prvata makedonska srednovekovna drzava :)
acki93 2 weeks ago
@acki93 Прво, лесно е да провериш дека Македония е била дел од Бугария од преди времето на кнез Борис I, таткото на Симеон (той пратил Климент во Охрид да основе книжевната школа).
Второ, чини ми се дека дури македонистката версия на историята не познаваш. След Самоил, царе са Гаврил-Радомир, Йован-Владислав и Пресиян II. Никой не спори за тоа.
А ако Самоил е прв цар на средновековна Македония, како е добил титулата цар, а не бил крал или кнез? И провери ли за Битолскиот натпис?
morensokol 2 weeks ago
@acki93 pasha razbudise malku, 1991 kiro gligorov prv presednig, koj 8 oktomvri koja 1912 i plus na seto toa MKD uste ne vie priznata od strana na Grcija, a i drugo imas li slusnato za Republika Vevcani?? i taa ke vi ja zemaaat hahaha:) from Austria
edo540i 6 days ago
@edo540i ti nemas ocigledno za nisto slusnato :)
acki93 6 days ago
@acki93 batka ova e vaka kiro vi ja spasi ova drzava, ako ja zemese milosevic pod noze, ni ti, ni nikoj drug ne ke mozese ova drzava da vi ja spasi vo 1991. ova e istorija od FYROM. a se drugo e dzaba.. i gledajte malce K15 tije se najrealni.. oti politicarite sto najdoja izebaja, od site samo kradat danoci. PAARI. a nije ovde ke si pcujeme eden na drug..
edo540i 6 days ago
@edo540i abe dobro toa za kiro se soglasuvam.. a ti od kaj si ziti se?? ...i sto ti e toa FYROM ?!!
acki93 5 days ago
@grafavt2011 .потоа вардарскиот дел на македонија продолжил да се осамостојува како (Демократска Федерална Македонија 1944 - 1946 , па Народна Република Македонија 1946 - 1963, Социјалистичка Република Македонија 1963 - 1991.. се до распадот на југославија каде конечно е прогласена првата независна република македонија 1991 година :))
acki93 3 weeks ago
@acki93
От всичките глупости дето ги избълва единственото вярно нещо е че сте създаден 1944 като нация и то с УКАЗ от Тито,с натиск на Коминтерна и под бащинското намигване на бащицата на народите Сталин.Всичко друго са безпочвени демагогии и долни фалшификации.Де са биле царете Ви,де е бил народът Ви,та в ни един сериозен исторически извор да не се споменава?Изчезнал за някакви си 23-24 века и после възкръснал?По-големи глупости от тези не бях чувал
grafavt2011 3 weeks ago
@grafavt2011 ajj be dosta ne tropaj guposti..vrz koja osnova ke ne osamostojat kako narod i drzava ako ne sme.. bigari sme?! -NE ...srbi sme?! -NE ..grci sme?! -NEEE ...epa togas sto sme ako ne posebna nacija.. ako ne sme makedonci??!! ..imame jazik , imame kultura.. imame teritorija.. sme postoele i ke postoime ..fakt koj i den denes e dosta ocigleden :)) toa ne mozes da go osporis ;))
acki93 2 weeks ago
@acki93
С човек ,дето цялата информация с която разполага е от МАНУ,не си струва да говоря.Просто е безсмислено!
grafavt2011 2 weeks ago
@acki93
Пък за документите не се излагай тука като циганин ами вземи прочети спомените на комитите и войводите на ВМРО.Всички до един са се определяли като българи и като такива са мрели по чукарите на Македония непогребани и неопети.Има хиляди документи за това и публикувани тук включително.И още в 1893 българи са създали БМОРК-Български МакедоноОдрински Революционни Комитети,първообраза на ВМРО,даже вашите "учени" напоследък го признаха.Има тук едно интервю с Васко Ефтов с ваш "учен"
grafavt2011 3 weeks ago
@grafavt2011 a i kako sto sakas da se potpisat koga sme bile pod bugarska okupacija togas?? ..ne sme bile samostojna drzava togas za da moze da se potpise kako makedonec..nemale takva opcija ednostavno!! toa e fakt koj sto ne mozes da go osporis!!
acki93 1 month ago
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@acki93
Още древните са казали,че държава без минало няма бъдеще.И Вашите ръководители трескаво се заеха до го търсят(миналото),или т.н"Идентитет".Но как да намериш нещо което няма?И се започна една груба кражба на история от съседите и фалшифицирането й та до гротескно смешните клипове за бог Македон и за 77000 години,които има и тук като клипове и които ако не бяха толкова смешни щяха да са жалки,много,много жалки.Та Истинската Ви история е тази след 1944,другото е долен фалшификат
grafavt2011 1 month ago
@ThePetardaProduction i da im ja ebes hahahahaha seljacista!!!! SE PLASAT ZA TERITORII BE DA NE IM GI BARAME NAZAD:)))
karin9087 1 month ago
@ThePetardaProduction αν θα ξαναγραψεις βουλγαρικα θα σου γαμησω το μουνι της μανας σου
strakastrukas 1 month ago
@ThePetardaProduction and by the way this is bulgarian....bad luck monkeydonian u have no language...aaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahaha
strakastrukas 1 month ago
@strakastrukas ok so you just proved to people and to yourself how stupid and mentally retarded you are.. cause you can not make a difference between two languages :)
acki93 1 month ago
@ThePetardaProduction I IA TEBI ISTO PEDER
jabaq1 1 month ago
@ThePetardaProduction
your language could not be understand from Alexander the Great..
of course you have language.. a slave language.
Σας αγαπαμε, if u cant understand this, your ancestor was not Alexander
rouketaspug 3 weeks ago
@rouketaspug Thanks for the love
ThePetardaProduction 3 weeks ago
what does this have to do with greece..or macedonia?!? ..this is bulgarian show XD ...what an idiots...
acki93 1 month ago 21
@acki93 its the same.bulgaria and fyrom have the same ansestors...see what was the flag of the monkeydonians before 1990..i believe was the bulgarian dragon..or i am mistaken????you are bulgarians albanians and gypsies...AND GET OUT FROM MY PART OF MACEDONIA.IS ENOUGH.otherwise the glorified greek army will come in your villages and fuck your whores sisters and mothers,....katalavaineis vlaka????
strakastrukas 1 month ago
@strakastrukas dude i believe there are no mental hospitals in your country ..and that explains you behavior ;))..ahah you are sick person..go cure and fuck yourself ....XD
acki93 1 month ago
@acki93
What does it have to do with Macedonia? A lot, since Macedonia has been equivalent with Bulgaria for many centuries now.
hoodle101 1 month ago
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acki93 4 weeks ago
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@hoodle101 are you mad or something ?! ...where are you from you ignorant person?? ..mars or something XD
acki93 4 weeks ago
@acki93 HAHAHAHH REALLY !
ivantrajcevgameguy 3 weeks ago
Monkeys go back to your trees where do you belong.Climb up and sing KEN LEEEEEEEEEEE !!
gampcptn 1 month ago
@gampcptn ahahahahahahahahaha swsta ta les aderfe
strakastrukas 1 month ago
she should go to australia where the cruiser1073 claims he lives and beg for a wellfare (like all slavic wogs) or at least get a huge greek dick in her ugly pussy because its well known slavs can't do a job, thats why skopjean pussies come every year to makedonia. to receive a big fat thick cock. OMG she is ugly, someone to put her in jail please.
1969eso 1 month ago
Is FYROM worth anything? Because Greece sure as shit isn't. Fucken joke of a country and Athens stinks. Women farting openly in the streets. Corrupt and plain embarrassing.
cruiser1073 1 month ago
@cruiser1073 pathetic. a slavic wog is not in a position to lecture. the women farting openly in streets were your mum your sis and your brother after sexchange operation. the gases are a result of the anal, slavs like you are use to perform. wog wog
1969eso 1 month ago
@cruiser1073 women fart only when they see monkeydonians on the street,it comes out so easily....praaaaaaaaaaaaaaaffffffffffffffff!!!!!!! hahahahahahahaha
strakastrukas 1 month ago
@strakastrukas and the mens in you country fart only when they hear GAYREECE on the street ,,you know cause it comes so easily ;)
acki93 1 month ago
this turko afrikano monkeys r so stupid can u see that she is bulgarian
sasik3 1 month ago
@sasik3 u stupid propaganda jughead.i am 1.93 blonde with blue eyes...do u want to come and say in my face i m african you trush of the balkans???
strakastrukas 1 month ago
@strakastrukas that cus u have aegean blood:) no fuck off and that is not propaganda do u have eyes??? do want me to show u pic of typical greek faces???
sasik3 1 month ago
Macedonia is just stolen land!
Greekabout 2 months ago
@Greekabout <---- you are a FYROMonkey
MACEDONIA IS WAS AND WILL ALWAYS BE GREEK ......CHOKE !
KEN LEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!
FYROMSKI 1 month ago
english???? hahahahhahahahahaahahahahahahhahaha!!!!!!! what about somalians??hahahah fyrom you are so pathetic
MrGeom7 2 months ago
holy shit...that woman ( judge) is SOOOOOOOO. beautiful.......damn it..........
etornel79 2 months ago
We show the greeks how to fuck they were all gay ..maby they are still but keep learning .I.
kikochp 2 months ago
MAKEDONIA IS GREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK
TD4f22 2 months ago
@TD4f22 YOUNINISTAN IS TURKISH
VojvodaDDask 2 months ago
@VojvodaDDask I DON'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT YOUNINISTAN!!!!! MAKEDONIA = GREEEEEEECE
TD4f22 2 months ago
@VojvodaDDask your disturbed brain is turkish. go get some lobotomy you slavic freak
1969eso 1 month ago
@1969eso your disturbed brain is ethyopian, you Τσιγγάνων goftos.
VojvodaDDask 1 month ago
@VojvodaDDask lol (or should i say lolski) hey monkey hows weather in vardar banovina? have you had your banana allready?? or is it still stuck in your asshole. ethiopian???? besides you are a monkey you are a rascist aswell. this makes you a chipmonk lolski lolski!!!! what an upgrade!!!!!!!!!!!! go on monkey, sooner you will become a homo neandertaliensis. so long bitch.
1969eso 1 month ago
@VojvodaDDask makedonia is greek
albania is greek
bulgaria is greek
olokliri i tourkia vuzantini eparxia
strakastrukas 1 month ago
this is in bulgaria not in macedonia hahahahaha
girlmarti 2 months ago
Tatarka glupa !
KinezMKD 2 months ago
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IF YOU BELIEVE THAT MACEDONIA AND ALEXANDER THE GREAT IS GREEK THEN PLEASE THUMB UP!!
POTIS1 2 months ago
OO SUCH A no life greek trollll... ahhahah THIS IS BULGARIAN IDOL NOT MACEDONIAN!!.. and this is on person not all nation.. or u wannaa see real macedonian singing?? and one greek lady Anna visi or whatever stair like pig from behind.. ARE U WANNA SEE RAL MACEDONIAN AND REAL GREEK ???/watch?v=LKRaXPYSzKY >WATch IT REAL MACEDONIAN AND REAL MACEDNIAN SONG!! GAYREEKSS U WILL NEVER HAVE MUSIC LIKE THIS, AND SINGERS LIKE THIS .. JUST FUCKN BUUZUKII SERTAKII AND FETA CHEESE!! LISTEN AND CRY!!
TomiBT87 2 months ago
А-ха-ха-ха! Ебати лудата, брат! :P
Ethylmorphine 2 months ago
LOL.. what a iliterate idiot.. this is a bulgarian music idol, no macedonians here... what this has to do with fyrom vs greece?.. omg...
dzole123 2 months ago
why the name of this video clip is called "Re: FYROM vs GREECE" ?
borizovskimilan 2 months ago
the greeks stole everything from the middle eastern phoenicians
and persians, alphabet, language and even mythical gods they claim as there own. Example europe and adonis are phoenician not greek. Same as alexander was and is macedonian.
motley8oy 2 months ago
@motley8oy Europe and adonis were never considered to be Greek gods.. They are just mythological figures and their names can be translated only on Greek (europe = ευρώπη = «ευρείς ώπας» which means big eyes). Alexander was macedonian but there are many ancient references to him as Hellenic kingm and of course his language was Greek - Hellenic. So get your facts straights or stfu
MrM0dulator 2 months ago
@MrM0dulator thats the difference between macedonian and greeks, everything greek god or not is a myth or stolen, adonis and europa were real people in Phoenicia, the word beirut comes from adonis's child he had, the first alphabet was Phoenician later adopted and modified by the greeks in other words stolen, as for only greeks can translate is a load of shit, read the bible and see where St. Paul went macedonia and greece 2 seperate lands till stolen in 1913
motley8oy 2 months ago
@motley8oy the fact is that in Skopje you create your own history. If you could speak Greek you could basically understand the language of the Great Alexander... This is not an assumption, it is a fact... IT IS THE SAME LANGUAGE... Yes we used the alphabet from Phoenicians (9th century B.C.!!), but we changed it because guess what... it had no vowels...WHERE WERE YOU IN 900B.C.?... St. Paul also send a letter to the Corinthians, so may be Corinthos is separate and yours too.. give us all a break
MrM0dulator 2 months ago
@MrM0dulator read the bible and stop being ignorant. It says macedonia and greece in the bible not the province of macedonia, greece and macedonia.
motley8oy 2 months ago
@motley8oy For once more you fail to answer my questions... You insist saying this bullshit about Bible... Well send me a link to what you are saying or quit it... What did St Paul say about Greece and Macedonia?? May be thats another lie that they feed you...St Paul sent epistles to corinthians, thessalonians and philipians... all 3 cities are Greek but they had a separate church back then... You are slavs, you are not macedonians and you are not greek...stop this reconstruction of history
MrM0dulator 2 months ago
@MrM0dulator read chapter Acts 16 in the bible already told you to, no link, find a bible thats made from paper, it says St. Paul sees in his vision a man from macedonia calling please come to macedonia to help us, he then travels to macedonia to preach christianity which makes macedonia the first country in europe to accept christianity then he travels southward to greece were he is met by a hostile crowd,
motley8oy 2 months ago
@MrM0dulator Paul revisited the churches in Macedonia, then went to Greece, where he stayed for three months. As he was about to sail to Syria, some Jews laid wait for him, so he returned through Macedonia.
motley8oy 2 months ago
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@motley8oy
Hahaha any day now you are going to say that you are Christians
& that we stole your religion too! AhaHa pathetic Slavs...
KatorNia 2 months ago
@motley8oy you stupid fuck !!!we invented alphabet..go and google grammiki b. all the fyrom will be ours again and we will divide it with serbia...come on..wakke up and smell the coffee
strakastrukas 1 month ago
closer to us macedonians, the lady singing if you call it that looks like a gypsy and dark hair just like greeks, everyone on the panel looks greek especially the guy's at the ends, look closely christian gypsy hellenised turks.
motley8oy 2 months ago
TERRAFAIL Monkeydonian shit!!!!!!
Ic3maN1988 2 months ago
This is not Macedonian, its Bulgarian!! =)
ram0004 3 months ago
i dont mean Bukgarians !!!!! i mean ( FYROM , Albanians ) !
soutaki3 3 months ago
You fuckin' greek fagots, thisd isn't macedonian idil, this is a bulgarian one, but what to say stupid is stupid forever.
Regards from Prilep, Macedonia. Actually the real one Macedonia.
BobiSim 3 months ago
@BobiSim all pigs has the same face so dont blame him ! and the real macedonia is in Greece . i know that u dont know history but at least learn geography
soutaki3 3 months ago
AHAHAHAHAHAHA,,,,, ITS ALL SOOOOO TURKiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiSH
ratzP 3 months ago
Ho is that Ken Lee?a cousin of Bruce Lee?
dkio50 3 months ago
hahahahahahahahaah
mene14387 3 months ago
dude... get real tis is bulgaria :/
davorsara 3 months ago 3
stupid turko-afrinacos from hell-ass she is from bulgaria hahaha
sasik3 3 months ago
dumb fuck this is bulgaria idol not macedonian idol
stozza4eva 3 months ago
ahhaha this is Bulgaria your so called good friend.. You Hall ass are so stupid this just pruves it !!! :D
orcethegreat 4 months ago
@orcethegreat And what is the difference between scopia fyrom and bulgaria, NONE!!! You are EXACTLY THE SAME!! You fuckin dirty albanobulgarian mongols still want AEGEAN AND MACEDONIA Eh?! The fuck we gave you in balkanic wars wasn't enough eh?!
TheHellenicFire 3 months ago
@TheHellenicFire i know you want Macedonian dick but i wont give you!!! only to your sister or your mother !! HELL ASSIAN hahahahah xD
orcethegreat 3 months ago
@orcethegreat Don't you mean, "Microdonian" dick?
trisnna9801 3 months ago
@trisnna9801 ahhahaahah how do you know that omg you realy fuck with someone.. but if macedonian dick doesnt satisify you you can always try turkish !!! xD
orcethegreat 3 months ago
@orcethegreat Wow...I actually got it right? It was just a lucky guess. I just took in account how insecure Fyromian are by nature, and I figured that it comes from envying Hellenic history all these years. So I factored in that it must be a manifestation of something else. So, since some men feel that their penis is not big enough...well, that's how I did it. Simple psychology really...no big deal ;)
trisnna9801 3 months ago
@trisnna9801 Hellenic history ??? what history ?? i am starting to thing that your country has stolen everything from smaller and weaker countries.. Its what the greeks do kill unarmed man and children..
orcethegreat 3 months ago
@orcethegreat Ideologies form an 18 year old that knows nothing? How original of you. Try reading something outside your pro-fyrom forums that are funded by your government, little boy...and stop projecting your fears & insecurities on your southern neighbor. Who just happens to be your #1 investor & #2 trading partner. I bet your propaganda websites (that you love so much) don't mention that...do they? Of course not, they prefer you stay an uninformed fool.
trisnna9801 3 months ago 11
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@trisnna9801 #1 investor ahhahahahAHAH you dony have money ahahahahah 32 bilon eu thats how much you owe to eu union .... you are the worst country in eu .. you should start selling your country but i dont thing that even this will help.... xD
orcethegreat 3 months ago
FYROM MUST CHOOSE MONKEYDONIA OR VARDASKA ????
hgoumenosefraim 4 months ago
Stupid slavobastards from skopja. Hahahahahahaha.
MrNMT69 4 months ago
this is blugarian idol not macedonian you fuking hell asses
nespijam1 4 months ago
@nespijam1 Same thing ;)
trisnna9801 4 months ago
FUCK you money greedy jewish piece of shit, you are the people who are fucking Holland's originality, and spreading hate in Holland and throught Europe. Fuckface, fuck off, Europe does not need Jews to spoil Europe with all your hate and propagandas. I am sure Dutch people spit and shit on Jews like you, just like your fake Nazi leaders, who is Jewish and pretending to be Nazi.
malatia7575 4 months ago
This is on Bulgarian "Idol" and it is really funny...
I can't see what this have to do with Macedonia or Greece?
You people are really MORONS!!!
vinetu73 4 months ago
This is so immature. Stop hating each other, for real!
rocksteady3681 4 months ago
@rocksteady3681 You lose a lot of time, hating people. So it's not hate that drives me to have these conversations. It's the fact that I can't just sit back and let someone disparage my nation's proud history, just so they can claim an ancient past that doesn't belong to them. Imagine if people from western Guyana started saying those things about your country. You wouldn't hate them, but you would certainly try to correct them.
trisnna9801 4 months ago 2
@trisnna9801 When I talk about hate I'm not talking about one person, but about most of Greeks and Macedonians, Fyromian, people from Skopje or whatever they are. BTW, now that you bring up border issues, Guyanese got 2/3 of their current territory from my country -with the British support of course- and we're still claiming it. Actually there's an area in Venezuela called Guayana, so we're basically sharing the name. Why can't that happen between Greece and "FYROM"? I just don't get it.
rocksteady3681 4 months ago
@rocksteady3681 Because they're not part of that ancient history. Macedon was a Hellenic tribe. Their ancestors have no connection to the people of that time. Not in name, not in culture, not even in language. In fact...their people showed up north of the Macedonian region, a full 1,000 years after the demise of the Macedonian Empire. They're doing the same thing to the Bulgarians and their historical hero's. Just so they can feel like they have a long and glorious history. It's pathetic really.
trisnna9801 4 months ago 2
@trisnna9801 I'm understanding now, but still, I believe in self-determination of nations so I think that people from FYROM (and every country) should be called as they want to. Don't get me wrong, my opinion is not set yet, I totally respect your point of view and probably if I were a Greek I'd say the same, but I'm trying imagine how bad must be to be hated for the name you want to use. I would like to see the other side of the coin anyway.
rocksteady3681 4 months ago
@trisnna9801 I'm understanding now, but still, I believe in self-determination of nations so I think that people from FYROM (and every country) should be called as they want to. Don't get me wrong, my opinion is not set yet, I totally respect your point of view and probably if I were a Greek I'd say the same, but I'm trying imagine how bad must be to be hated for the name you want to use. I would like to see the other side of the coin anyway.
rocksteady3681 4 months ago
@rocksteady3681 I believe in self-determination, not historical hijacking. Greece’s claim is a valid one. The region of Macedonia actually falls within 4 countries Albania, Bulgaria, FYROM and Greece. The largest part of that region falls within Greek borders. So if 52% of a region falls within the borders of one country and that country also has a province named after it, it's a bit much to have a new country emerge and try to claim exclusive right to the region’s name or historical figures?
trisnna9801 4 months ago 21
@trisnna9801 Albanian and bulgarians know very well who Macedonian are and not complain...but one thing is for sure, Macedonians are not slav... they come to balkan 7 AC century....Macedonian history is ages and ages older.. so be real people... u are not Macedonians u are not Greeks Philippos whas Greek with Greek name like son Alexander... Aristoteles to that names have meaning in Greek language but means nothing in slavs...
konkef 3 months ago
@konkef Well said.
trisnna9801 3 months ago
@trisnna9801 You are not very knowledgable - in that region there weren't ANY greeks at all until the balkan wars. After they took that part and separated the Ottoman's Macedonia between Bulgaria, Serbia, and albania (the Buchurest's treaty) they had to invent a reason why that territory is greek. So they said 2 = 3 i.e Macedonians (ancient) are Greeks.
If you look at Ancient Macedonia's borders you will also see that that territory is not greek.
Spandex08 3 months ago
@trisnna9801 And that will be all fine, if you didn't forget to mention that Greece got that part in Balkans war, that more of 50% on that territory in that time lived Macedonians, that between two world wars Greece displaced 100 000 Macedonians to Bulgaria, brought one million from Minor Asia to that teritory, and the top of all, after Greek civil war they forced out 100,000 people from Greece, most of them children, just because they weren't Greek.
jutubena 1 month ago
@jutubena how can you be so misinformed??the kids that were brought in northern macedonia were all greeks but communists.we had a civil war and the only country would accept was tito and yugoslavia.understand?i believe your prime minister gruefski is greek on the second generation...i m sorry u dont have any clues about history.and tell me...what about the greeks they live in fyrom???in gevgeli in stomnitsa in oxrida in monastiri...can they speak greek??or you wont let them you fascists????
strakastrukas 1 month ago
@strakastrukas wait, what?? You are trying to sell this story to the world?? Unbelievable!! My grandmother WAS one of that kids that left Greece. Her family lived in the Lerin region for over 200 hundred years (recorded history), we still have the Ottomans documents that prove that the land is ours, and there is a law suit on the that matter in Greeks courts, that(imagine that) hasn't finished for over a 20 years. Now, you really, really want to sell the story that they were Greeks? Really???!
jutubena 1 month ago
@strakastrukas OMG XD .. first of all if you come to Macedonia the first thing that you'll see it's the physical difference between 2 nations.. so than you'll know that Gruevsko or whoever does nothing to do with Greece ...and second of all the minority in macedonia has so many rights (take for example the Albanians ) so i don't believe that if there were greeks in macedonia they wouldn't be let to speak there own language..and thats the difference between us.. :)