LIz Carroll & John Doyle Celtic Colours 2006 clip1

[dasocks]

Wow i had no idea people who listened to this music were so conservative. anyway, cool is all i have to say.

[cybermoviestar]

whats to argue about. just lean backad listen. cheers

[sheribalex79]

I just saw John perform at the Vilar Center with Joan Baez.. What a wonderful guitarist! Thanks for sharing your performances online.

[xnikix1]

3 cheers for johnny doyle

[Mandolin1944]

yes three cheers for both of them -- John Doyle is absolutely the best Celtic backup guitar player in this world -- great singer too!

[JSCWhistler]

Man, I need to get more stuff with John Doyle in it... his guitar playing is so good

[bashassss]

diddo

[deccadizzle]

makes me tingle

[killiekentman]

best fiddle playing ive ever heard Liz. great stuff. great back up with John as well. what a brilliant pair. tyey work well together.

[BardofCornwall]

Nice, though the video and sound quality could be better.

[Highlander90210]

I'm going to get to have a workshop with Liz tomorrow... :)

[deslm]

C.B'ers have jigs, reels, marches, airs and strathspeys...how about polkas, slides, barndances, hornpipes...that's what I thought.

Now as for the fiddle playing...click on the clip of Frankie Gavin playing the Foxhunters' and then get back to me about C.B. fiddle playing being more difficult to execute! And the biggest joke is when C.B. fiddle players attempt to play Irish tunes...usually ends up being a total f#$#n joke

[TradGal]

Cape Bretoners do have polkas and hornpipes (clogs). Get the Winston Fitzgerald book.

[TradGal]

Your comments are so ignorant. The styles are different- one is not better than the other.  Both are difficult for different reasons. I've heard Irish musicians play CB tunes and it didn't sound right. It's the same thing when Cape Bretoners play Irish tunes- whatever style you play most is going to come through on whatever you play. I play a mixture of both styles and have taught tunes to classical musicians. They sound very classical when they try to play trad.

[ainefidileir]

hear hear!

Thanks for jumping in. I am a firm believer that Irish trad musicians can't play CB tunes in a CB fashion AND vice versa! It's not an insult, it just is what it is. I personally much prefer (and play) Scottish and Cape Breton - but that doesn't mean I rip on players of other styles. Hell, one of my top players is Hilary Hahn for chrissake and I can't (and don't want to) play a lick of classical!

[TradGal]

Yeah... here's what's funny to me... when I play tunes in my hometown, the other people at the session tell me that my playing sounds "Cape Breton." When I play in Cape Breton, the people at the session tell me my playing sounds "Irish." Although, I've had Cape Bretoners tell me that they thought I was from Cape Breton, as well. To make matters more interesting, I am originally classically trained. :)

[deslm]

Do they make use of concertinas, tenor banjos, concert flutes, button accordions, harmonicas or harps - to say nothing of the uilleann pipes, which are a damn sight more sophisticated and difficult to play than their scottish counterpart (I'm a fan of both imstruments and have played both of them)? How about guitar, bouzouki, tin whistle or bodhran? Oh yes, I have seen a few maritimers using those instruments but from where did they get the idea...hmmm.

[TradGal]

CB music is the way it is partly because of how isolated the island was. They didn't hear a lot of other styles of music. They couldn't just go out and get other instruments. They used what they had available to them. And they can get a beautiful, full sound with just two instruments- why change that?

[deslm]

"That's nonsense. In many ways the Cape Breton fiddle style is more difficult to execute than the Irish style."

...?...BWAAAAHHHAHAAAAHHHAAAAA­AAAA!!!!!! Put the crack pipe down sonny.

The post above was referring to not just the fiddle playing but also these two styles of music as a whole. Cape Breton music uses what instruments...oh yes fiddle, piano and hardly much else - well highland pipes once in a while.

[ainefidileir]

get over yourself asshat.

just what exactly are you trying to accomplish here???

[deslm]

What I WAS trying to accomplish is to wind up people like yourself who would take the bait. Since you're replying to a message I originally posted a long time ago (and had long since forgotten about) it seems as if I've succeeded. I really belive that if anyone needs to get over themselves, it's you. And I stand by my original statement...CB stuff is fine but it doesn't hold a candle to Irish.

[ainefidileir]

so... you go on the web and criticize music styles just to "wind people up?"

huh. interesting.

I wouldn't say I was wound up, I was more amused that you are running around proclaiming one style of music to completely trump everything else. That's your opinion and that's groovy, but why insult other things while you're at it? Anyway, isn't it clear that CBers have a very healthy respect for all styles of music, including Irish and Liz Carroll by inviting her to play at Celtic Colours? chill.

[deslm]

Oh I'm prefectly chill...you guys invited them bcs. at least some of you can recognize superiority when you see/hear it and know when to bow down :-)

Point taken, however.

[nigelbaseley]

I 100% agree about Alec Finn being a more suitable accompanist...although I'd put him with almost anyone and probably say that. That guy is the best, bar none - although John Doyle still kicks ass!

And Cape Breton fiddle and that music in general is vastly inferior to its Irish counterpart. In terms of instrumentation, rhythm (types of tunes) and variation in terms of presentation, etc. they are not even close. That's not just my opinion but the truth.

[shankandbrisket]

That's nonsense.  In many ways the Cape Breton fiddle style is more difficult to execute than the Irish style.

Back on topic, both Liz and John are simply superb musicians. I highly recommend adding their albums to your collection and a couple of Cape Breton fiddling albums too.

[krcluvsau]

john doyle is officially my irish herart-throb. ya, he's a lot older, but gah- is he good at what he does or what?!? i saw them live thursday here, in charleston. they were AMAZING. but i was with a huge group of high schoolers, and a lot of them were like "when will this ever end?!" of course, i in turn told them to shut their stupid mouths...sry if i prefer JD to JT (justin timberlake)...

[jakyb0y2]

omg liz carroll is sooooooooooooo good and so is john. ahh. makes my spine tingle

[dogrunning]

Known Liz for years n years from playing sessions and fleadh's around Chicago. She's real, folks. No attitude, no diva. She teaches grade school in the local system. Can you fancy having her as your teacher when its time for music class? yowza

[brendan249]

Anyone know if the first reel, " The Train " has been recorded. It's a great tune!

[subz6]

I think a accompaniest like Alec Finn would bring out her playing more

[daveman4202002]

Maybe but these two have been playing together for years. I think the sound quality of the video may have something to do with it. They mesh perfectly on the albums.

[harrysmyharp]

john doyle is a ledge...dont go there!! =)

[daveman4202002]

Liz Carroll is one of the best ever! I can't wait to see her live. Buy all her albums.

[dickdonovan]

liz carol,s playin is superb,but i'll still stick with the cape breton fiddle.

[koenig32]

They're both brilliant and incredibly skilled, pleasure to watch, thanks

[SwinginDrumMeister]

Beautifully played - I'm amazed that she can get such good tone while only using a few inches of bow 95% of the time! They're quite a contrasting pair to watch, everything about the fiddler is understated while the guitarist is all about overstatement. We had a guitarist like that once...

[muntoidprime]

more of that please!

[plakor06]

Wonderful! What a treat...Thanks for posting this. See them in person if you can, they are the best