Laws like these (anti-knife and anti-gun) are only good for 2 purposes: 1 - To provide a mechanism for prosecution in the legal system, 2 - To restrict law abiding citizens because criminals are called criminals for a reason.
I agree with you LouisWasTaken. "The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
- Thomas Jefferson (quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria)
Two years ago I came within a hair's breadth of being arrested for opening a packet of buscuits outside a supermarket with my knife. As a diabetic and at the time in the throws of a hypo attack I felt I was just a bit of an easy target.
I think the laws are good because if a police person finds a knife of someone, they don't have to catch them in the act of a crime, they can nick them and charge them for just carrying. Police tend to use these powers to take known thugs off the street and disarming them.
Hey, I'm looking for some advice. So this is the deal, I'm under 16 and where I live is next to huge woodlands but the other side of my village is Parson Cross (place of countless stabbings) I'm into all the bear grylls and ray mears stuff but I'm not 100% sure if I'm legal to carry one. Please help me out (I watched part1 but still not 100%) thanks in advance
The Media and the fear it has bred is the reason why self defense and the ownership of knives and guns has become so demonized... i wish people would just stop being so scared
The problem I think is the media, as soon as a stabbing happens they will create fear and broadcast how easy these fancy knives are to get. Then the goverment will want to look good to the public ofcourse so will add more laws to seem as though they are doing there bit. Its the same with Samurai swords although I can understand not being allowed to carry those in public. :P
You have to remember that in Britain even the police force are not routinely armed because it's felt that police officers would become too intimidating to the public.
There is a social stigma/fear attached to having an interest in or carrying knives, firearms etc. and the laws reflect that fear.
Regardless of reason, I don't see how you can change that mind-set - it's like having a discussion on reforming the NHS. You just can't. It's just one of those things that isn't open to debate.
omg are you serious. you britts are a bunch of pussy's. lol i clean my nails with a bigger knife than that. look at your hands their so delicate. like a womens. if you want rights you gotta fight and die for them. nobody will give them to you. so can you cut steaks at a restraunt or do they cut it up for you before they serve it, like a little kid who might cut himself?
@machinistmikey what. are you trying to look stupid? just because this guy isent showing a huge fixed blade off dosent mean we dont have them. dont blame the citizens for the laws, maby blaming the law MAKERS would make more sense? maby he is fairly young so his hands might look less "manly" than yours. also, the laws arent so fucked that we dont get given steak knives in resturants.
@MATTNATTMATT all right im sorry. i actually found out that everyday citizens in great britain ised to be able to own any weapon. even machine guns. they chip away at your rights little by little. they are doing it here in the u.s. as well. i live in nothern idaho and we have the most laxed gun laws. you can own full auto here with a 250.00 stamp and a ffl
I and many more of my countrymen would be happy to fight and die to overthrow an oppressive government (dying being the most likely scenario since acquiring arms is difficult), but the sad fact is these laws have overwhelming popular support. We are a nation of, as you put it, 'pussy's'. Those of us who desire freedom above comfort or a sense of security (real or not) are few and far between, and I just don't see how we can change that. I'm open to suggestions though.
@GuerrillaSauce Move to Ireland. They value personal freedom more than the illusion of security or the feeling that they're being "taken care of" when they're actually being bilked out of the fruits of their labor.
Hmm... Ireland. EU currency. EU budget. EU indebted. Higher taxes than the UK (correct me if I'm wrong).
I love visiting Ireland (who doesn't like the Irish?!), but living there? No thanks. It's probably Switzerland for me... although their knife laws are pretty jacked up too!
The laws are stupid, the government is corrupt. If we want these laws changed, we need to make a petition or cause a revolution or something to get common morality and sensible laws
I collect a knives from ~15 years old. I live in Latvia and ouer knife law a many years a ago: All knives under 7cm long without locking blade mehanism, buy from 18 years. But anybody buy what knives they like and nobody ask you -> are you older than 18 yers. Even children could buy a knife. Today knife law is a different and first time in all these years from 15 til 25 years in one knife shop I got a question from seller - am I older than 18 years and have I a passport to prove it! :D
You seem pretty sure that we need knife laws, why? What possible law is there that prevents crime? What does banning any type of knife do?
That train of thought is exactly what's wrong with Britain, we think the government's going to be reasonable. Tell me what inclination they have, if any, to be reasonable when we describe our political parties as "in power". They are NOT in power, the people need to lose it first.
People who support prohibition are invasive, what right do they have?
There's a TV show called The First 48 (I don't know if it's exported), where cameramen follow real homocide detectives around while they try to solve murders and with every episode I can recall, when a knife was used, it was a kitchen-style knife.
Its seem the all over like to feel safe !!! So much so that they will give up freedom for it !!! Being afraid of knife and guns, most people will give them up in-order to feel safe. But in the end if your bare-handed and you are face to face with a man how is twice your size, you will wise you were armed. Because in the end a big man who know how to use is fists can kill you.
@bfgguns I feel the same about guns and self and home defence. The law is over-restrictive and ludacris. If guns are outlawed the only the outlaws will get guns.
It is important that if one abides by the local law, and is stopped and searched by the police, that he does not allow himself to be convicted of an offensive weapon charge. I carry a Spyderco UK Pen Knife for daily utility, which I regard to be the best folding knife for UK law compliance. I will not take it to a pub, or football match, nor 'wave it about'. This complies with the 1988 knife act, which I carry in my wallet. Any prosecution for offensive weapon, would be malicious.
Switch blades made now days are perfectly good knives, not like stilleto knifes which were stabbers for the teddy boys.
The knife laws are outdated, Switch blades and balisongs out-the-front should be made legal, how does the way a knife opens make it more dangerous, a fixed blade is always open yet its legal, and you can open a folding knife as quick as a balisong.
The law on length should still stand. The other laws, scrapped.
so could i take my really tiny one same make as yours (the wooden one) say outside a cafe or something to cut a piece of toffee to share with someone? lol
@iiLukeTbh You sure could if it was under 3 inches and non-locking. In fact it was both of those things, as long as you weren't being stupid and waving it about, you could take it anywhere and use it for most small tasks like what you said. I hope my videos help you find out about knives and things, and thanks for watching
Criminals don't care about laws,that's why they are criminals! Duh! Making something illegal does not stop crime. Obviously drug laws should prove that!
Great video, I could not agree with you more, the laws only punish law abiding citizen and not criminals. The locking mechanism is a safety feature, how many accidents will be caused by people using non locking tools that fold on them when they are working.
arent pocket knives with thumb studs ilegal in the uk?
daffydsteroidhead 2 weeks ago
Laws like these (anti-knife and anti-gun) are only good for 2 purposes: 1 - To provide a mechanism for prosecution in the legal system, 2 - To restrict law abiding citizens because criminals are called criminals for a reason.
TheRealEasy1 4 weeks ago
I agree with you LouisWasTaken. "The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
- Thomas Jefferson (quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria)
TheRealEasy1 4 weeks ago
Two years ago I came within a hair's breadth of being arrested for opening a packet of buscuits outside a supermarket with my knife. As a diabetic and at the time in the throws of a hypo attack I felt I was just a bit of an easy target.
Rayxl1 1 month ago
the knife laws are stupid but make scence in some cases
knifeman2000 2 months ago
9 out of 10 knife crimes in the uk are committed with a kitchen knife
mrgod114 2 months ago
I think the laws are good because if a police person finds a knife of someone, they don't have to catch them in the act of a crime, they can nick them and charge them for just carrying. Police tend to use these powers to take known thugs off the street and disarming them.
2Jax 2 months ago
I really do agree with you on that! I can't stand the UK Customs rules! It sucks really bad! Thanks for uploading these videos my friend!
MrLukeySkywalker90 2 months ago
Ps I want to carry a multi tool
SaikouHD 3 months ago
Hey, I'm looking for some advice. So this is the deal, I'm under 16 and where I live is next to huge woodlands but the other side of my village is Parson Cross (place of countless stabbings) I'm into all the bear grylls and ray mears stuff but I'm not 100% sure if I'm legal to carry one. Please help me out (I watched part1 but still not 100%) thanks in advance
SaikouHD 3 months ago
The Media and the fear it has bred is the reason why self defense and the ownership of knives and guns has become so demonized... i wish people would just stop being so scared
SuperMegaCyrus 8 months ago
The problem I think is the media, as soon as a stabbing happens they will create fear and broadcast how easy these fancy knives are to get. Then the goverment will want to look good to the public ofcourse so will add more laws to seem as though they are doing there bit. Its the same with Samurai swords although I can understand not being allowed to carry those in public. :P
ArchitekOGP 11 months ago
You have to remember that in Britain even the police force are not routinely armed because it's felt that police officers would become too intimidating to the public.
There is a social stigma/fear attached to having an interest in or carrying knives, firearms etc. and the laws reflect that fear.
Regardless of reason, I don't see how you can change that mind-set - it's like having a discussion on reforming the NHS. You just can't. It's just one of those things that isn't open to debate.
GuerrillaSauce 1 year ago
This video can be compressed into the following statement:
If you outlaw [insert tool here], only outlaws have [insert tool here].
Welcome to the American Republican Party.
evildude109 1 year ago
omg are you serious. you britts are a bunch of pussy's. lol i clean my nails with a bigger knife than that. look at your hands their so delicate. like a womens. if you want rights you gotta fight and die for them. nobody will give them to you. so can you cut steaks at a restraunt or do they cut it up for you before they serve it, like a little kid who might cut himself?
machinistmikey 1 year ago
@machinistmikey what. are you trying to look stupid? just because this guy isent showing a huge fixed blade off dosent mean we dont have them. dont blame the citizens for the laws, maby blaming the law MAKERS would make more sense? maby he is fairly young so his hands might look less "manly" than yours. also, the laws arent so fucked that we dont get given steak knives in resturants.
MATTNATTMATT 1 year ago
@MATTNATTMATT all right im sorry. i actually found out that everyday citizens in great britain ised to be able to own any weapon. even machine guns. they chip away at your rights little by little. they are doing it here in the u.s. as well. i live in nothern idaho and we have the most laxed gun laws. you can own full auto here with a 250.00 stamp and a ffl
machinistmikey 1 year ago
@machinistmikey Texas allow fully autos aswell dont they? in the UK were lucky we can own airsoft guns that look real...if we have a permit lol :D
MATTNATTMATT 1 year ago
@machinistmikey
I and many more of my countrymen would be happy to fight and die to overthrow an oppressive government (dying being the most likely scenario since acquiring arms is difficult), but the sad fact is these laws have overwhelming popular support. We are a nation of, as you put it, 'pussy's'. Those of us who desire freedom above comfort or a sense of security (real or not) are few and far between, and I just don't see how we can change that. I'm open to suggestions though.
GuerrillaSauce 1 year ago
@GuerrillaSauce Move to Ireland. They value personal freedom more than the illusion of security or the feeling that they're being "taken care of" when they're actually being bilked out of the fruits of their labor.
RealityCheck05 11 months ago
@RealityCheck05
Hmm... Ireland. EU currency. EU budget. EU indebted. Higher taxes than the UK (correct me if I'm wrong).
I love visiting Ireland (who doesn't like the Irish?!), but living there? No thanks. It's probably Switzerland for me... although their knife laws are pretty jacked up too!
GuerrillaSauce 11 months ago
the system here in the UK and everywhere else in the world is FUCKED
GetSlappedl 1 year ago
The laws are stupid, the government is corrupt. If we want these laws changed, we need to make a petition or cause a revolution or something to get common morality and sensible laws
diabolowhizz 1 year ago
@diabolowhizz Hey, revolution worked just fine when Americans had to deal the Tea Tax, Coercive Acts, Townshend Acts, etc.
evildude109 1 year ago
We british seem to live in a lowest common denominator society, our laws seem to be based on hysteria (often media instigated) and not evidence.
TheBoodle23 1 year ago
@TheBoodle23 seems that way to me
masterofnotmuch 1 year ago
I collect a knives from ~15 years old. I live in Latvia and ouer knife law a many years a ago: All knives under 7cm long without locking blade mehanism, buy from 18 years. But anybody buy what knives they like and nobody ask you -> are you older than 18 yers. Even children could buy a knife. Today knife law is a different and first time in all these years from 15 til 25 years in one knife shop I got a question from seller - am I older than 18 years and have I a passport to prove it! :D
Ivarsday 1 year ago
4:53
You seem pretty sure that we need knife laws, why? What possible law is there that prevents crime? What does banning any type of knife do?
That train of thought is exactly what's wrong with Britain, we think the government's going to be reasonable. Tell me what inclination they have, if any, to be reasonable when we describe our political parties as "in power". They are NOT in power, the people need to lose it first.
People who support prohibition are invasive, what right do they have?
ihaterobbie123 1 year ago
You make some good points.
There's a TV show called The First 48 (I don't know if it's exported), where cameramen follow real homocide detectives around while they try to solve murders and with every episode I can recall, when a knife was used, it was a kitchen-style knife.
sae1095hc 1 year ago
Its seem the all over like to feel safe !!! So much so that they will give up freedom for it !!! Being afraid of knife and guns, most people will give them up in-order to feel safe. But in the end if your bare-handed and you are face to face with a man how is twice your size, you will wise you were armed. Because in the end a big man who know how to use is fists can kill you.
EdAtoZ 1 year ago
The UK laws are idiotic, as is our Government. They simply dont understand and keep a small minded approach to everything.
eldiablo9604 1 year ago
Why is it necessary to have knife laws at all? criminals don't care, with or without laws. ;)
I think you would be happy to carry your Ka-Bar Dozier or a locking blade spyderco legally. ;)
bfgguns 1 year ago
@bfgguns I feel the same about guns and self and home defence. The law is over-restrictive and ludacris. If guns are outlawed the only the outlaws will get guns.
eldiablo9604 1 year ago
It is important that if one abides by the local law, and is stopped and searched by the police, that he does not allow himself to be convicted of an offensive weapon charge. I carry a Spyderco UK Pen Knife for daily utility, which I regard to be the best folding knife for UK law compliance. I will not take it to a pub, or football match, nor 'wave it about'. This complies with the 1988 knife act, which I carry in my wallet. Any prosecution for offensive weapon, would be malicious.
TJPROS1 1 year ago 2
I disagrees with you on laws with switch blades.
Switch blades made now days are perfectly good knives, not like stilleto knifes which were stabbers for the teddy boys.
The knife laws are outdated, Switch blades and balisongs out-the-front should be made legal, how does the way a knife opens make it more dangerous, a fixed blade is always open yet its legal, and you can open a folding knife as quick as a balisong.
The law on length should still stand. The other laws, scrapped.
SurvivalGuy123 1 year ago
your uk knife laws vids need to get more views people need to hear this stuff
MRdunxist 1 year ago
so could i take my really tiny one same make as yours (the wooden one) say outside a cafe or something to cut a piece of toffee to share with someone? lol
Thanks For info btw just whaat i needed :)
iiLukeTbh 1 year ago
@iiLukeTbh You sure could if it was under 3 inches and non-locking. In fact it was both of those things, as long as you weren't being stupid and waving it about, you could take it anywhere and use it for most small tasks like what you said. I hope my videos help you find out about knives and things, and thanks for watching
LouisWasTaken 1 year ago
If they didnt use knifes or even guns they would only find something else.
vertuepk 1 year ago
Criminals don't care about laws,that's why they are criminals! Duh! Making something illegal does not stop crime. Obviously drug laws should prove that!
smokepole68 1 year ago
Great video, I could not agree with you more, the laws only punish law abiding citizen and not criminals. The locking mechanism is a safety feature, how many accidents will be caused by people using non locking tools that fold on them when they are working.
MrSheepmaster 1 year ago