Taxes: Do You Have to File?

[FreeBlago1]

Woo woo, blah skippy. I don't file regardless! It's voluntary and the code says it!!!!!

[megatokiorio]

LOL A GUY NAMED STACY

[timo092601]

@spasmaticcontortion Actually......NO INCOME EARNER WHO TRADES THEIR TIME OR LABOR FOR MONEY HAS TO FILE......See America: Freedom to FAcism....by Aaron Russo......he lets IRS agents and the IRS commissioner prove it themselves!!!!!! The tax code is not the law of the land.....the CONSTITUTION IS!!!

[donh6]

the irs is a group of crooked bastards

[serrtucheserrtuche]

spread the w0rd!

civil disobedience 2011 income tax law protest = d0nt file

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civil disobedience 2011 income tax law protest = d0nt file

[donh6]

@serrtucheserrtuche you are not going to get the working jo to do this because of the mandatory deductions from payroll.

[serrtucheserrtuche]

thats why if you cant, NOT file..(for whatever reason) then simply withdraw all your money from your bank on or before tax day sometime!!

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[Tealy855]

For individuals domiciled in the 50 states and who are not Federal employees, nor non resident alliens , the income tax is contractual. Liability only begins when the individual voluntarily enters into a contract with the government.

Individual who do not voluntarily enter into this contract are in no way liable to pay a federal income tax.

[SW627]

@Tealy855 That contract you're talking about is the Social Security application. It's the Social Insurance Number up here in Canada. They tried to pin Brian Lutes in B.C. for 5 counts of failure to file. Too bad for them that he didn't have a SIN and he was willing to fight it in court. But Revenue Canada wont put that case on thier website, just the ones where SIN holders tried to fight the tax and lost. Which is proper, because they "agreed" to be a Taxpayer by applying in the first place.

[Tealy855]

@SW627 THATS RIGHT !!! THE ONLY WINNING STRATEGY IS NOT TO PLAY

THEIR GAME !!!

[serrtucheserrtuche]

spread the w0rd!

civil disobedience 2011 income tax law protest = d0nt file

[cubesphere1]

Until people wake up and restore our republic, Us Corp isn't going to as there intentions were made known by naming the American people enemies under trading with the enemies act in 1917

[cubesphere1]

Kay, how about this, Obama is the CEO of an agency called US Corp that was created by the United States of America in 1871 ( organic Act ) that was quit claimed in 1944 in the bretton woods agreement to the IMF to satisfy war debt and has no relation whatsoever to our jurisdictional government. The United States of America has no president which would need to be elected by a jurisdictional senate which seats were vacated in 1913 which is unconstitutional of course.

[RetSquid]

@cubesphere1

How about your entire statement is full of crap?

[cubesphere1]

This typifies the present lack of understanding of the reality of the current events here in USA. Would you be so kind as to inform me as to what seems incorrect? Feel free to enlighten me as I am unopposed to learning. thanks for modeling civility.

[RetSquid]

@cubesphere1

Sure, I will instruct you. The Act of 1871 didn't change anything about the U.S. except how Washington D.C. was organized and governed.

Your whole IMF/war debt/quit claim is a pipe dream that has zero logic or proof behind it.

I don't even KNOW what you were trying to say in the last sentence, "jurisdictional senate"??

[cubesphere1]

@RetSquid

1871- US of America creates an agency (US Corp) which is private, and can do what the USA cannot do under the constitution, which is why it called the organic act which means first act, and is the reason behind it. Now go back and read the Bretton Woods agreement in 1944. US corp can't pay war debt and is quit claimed (blacks law) by IMF. US Corp has no relation to the United States government and the proof is history. US- Gov = jurisdictional USC= non-J. You might want to study it!

[RetSquid]

@cubesphere1

The United States has always been a corporation. The 1871 Act did exactly what I said and nothing of what you said.

Organic:constituent(a): constitutional in the structure of something.

Anything else?

[asicit2b]

Why is the "individual" ALOUD to make a limited amount of money befor being taxed ?And then becomes proGRESSIVE after that ?Corrupt $y$tem.

[biohazardx]

to answer all your questions watch this movie called "zeitgeist" trust me you will not be dissapointed .and if possible post this in all other videos you go to . i dont want this to be spam but really , this is important .

[azznine9682]

opps forgot Article 1 Section 1 and Section 8 of the us const baby

[azznine9682]

You belieave what you want. As far as I see oil is rising and our money is worth shit. I also hear talk of a North American Union combining our nation with Canada and Mexico. Our dollar wont be worth much so we will be forced to change currency to the Amero. Plus why dont you look up habeas corpus. Fall into the rabbit hole and debunk yourself out of it. Patriot Act, millitary commisions act.. ask these questions instead of hearing what you want.

[kaysandesses]

"As far as I see oil is rising and our money is worth shit. "

Which has nothing to do with income tax.

" I also hear talk of a North American Union combining our nation with Canada and Mexico."

More conspiracy theorist bullshit.

"Plus why dont you look up habeas corpus."

I know all about habeas corpus but I fail to see what it has to do with the current discussion.

Here's a hint: don't assume anything about me simply because I've shown income tax to be legal.

[azznine9682]

are you kidding me lol better check on your credible websites.

[kaysandesses]

No, I'm not kidding. Since you claim the North American Union nonsense, show some credible evidence (you might want to look up the definition first) to show it isn't simply the product paranoid delusion.

I've grown tired of showing how stupid you are. Now go learn something that's real.

[azznine9682]

Hitler got the whole nation to agree and follow his agenda to a major war machine. How do you think he got that far? A whole nation? Brainwash, propaganda, and calling question askers, crazy and paranoid. So I ask do you really know anything about history? You think I get this information off websites or fiction books? You assume and judge immaturely. And since you fail to answer any of my replies with other then nonsense, I bid you farewell.

Son.. say baa baa for me once

[azznine9682]

not to sound cocky, but what websites are you getting this information? All the sites I see are ones not supporting the Federal Reserve or their IRS. And why are you defending the Corporation that is taking money from you as well? You have to look into who really benifits war. Why war exsist is money and power as far as I see. Secret Societies and Occults are involved in our nations economy, and you wonder why people are disturbed on the whole tax thing.

[kaysandesses]

" All the sites I see are ones not supporting the Federal Reserve or their IRS. "

That's because you obviously only look at tax conspiracy websites. I use only credible, verifiable sources. A good place to start is to see what the Fed says about "itself". I searched for laws on income tax and found those laws in the U.S. Code which is law as laid down in Art.1 Sec. 7 of the Constitution.

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[azznine9682]

I seek information on both type of sites. You can find credible evidence on both sides of every story. Whos to judge what sites are "credible"? Try to think deeper then that. I'm not saying all conspiracy theroys are real or not. But I do belieave that someting is amiss in our nation's monatary system. You see only what you wanna see. I just want the truth. You defend only what you are told is the truth.

[kaysandesses]

"I seek information on both type of sites"

No you don't, you simply parrot the conspiracy theorist party line.

"Whos to judge what sites are "credible"?"

Me.

"I just want the truth. You defend only what you are told is the truth."

Stop lying. You wouldn't know the truth if it fell on your head. I defend what I've determined to be true, NOT what I pick up off a conspiracy theorist website.

[azznine9682]

Article 1 Section 1 and Section 8

The government is suppose to reg, not the fed.

Thats not a conspiracy theory. That is a idiots response to an legitimate question. Who are you? Bill O'Reilly? Why don't you look it up instead of claiming crazy. Don't get so defensive over a silly debate.

[kaysandesses]

What are you talking about with Art. 1, Sec 8 and the government regulating and not the fed? The Fed is ultimately under the control of Congress, since at any given time Congress can amend the Fed Reserve act and completely disband the system. Seriously, go learn something. I'm not getting defensive over anything, but I don't hesitate to point out your stupidity, as evidenced by your posts.

[chadgresham]

If the Fed is ultimately under the control of Congress why then did the last chairman of the Fed Greenspan say in an interview that the Fed is above the law? No insults just help me understand.

[kaysandesses]

Where and when did "the last chairman" make that comment?

Regardless, if the Fed is autonomous and "above the law", then why did President Obama state today that Bernanke will be kept on for a 2nd term?

[chadgresham]

Key in Greenspan Fed is above the law. You will hear it from the horses mouth. Remember bad things have happened to those who have tried the Fed. Kennedy, Lincoln, and countless others have tried to give the power of printing money back to the government and bad things have happened to them. Please do some research on the subject.

[kaysandesses]

Chad I've done tons of research on the subject of the Fed, and there is no conspiracy or illegal actions involved.

I suggest you do some research that includes something other than conspiracy theorist websites.

You didn't answer my question though: if the Fed is above the law then why did Obama have to reappoint Bernanke as Fed Chairman? The Fed operates at the pleasure of Congress. At any time Congress can disband the Fed.

[chadgresham]

Obama just like many others in our government are nothing more than puppets. The last real president that we had was Kennedy. Now granted I drank the Kool Aid (Jim Jones) and fell for the hype being a person of color. But, I have noticed that Obama could not bring about the change he speaks of. Why, because the only way he could repair this nation is to return us to the gold standard. But, if you look who is around him now nothing but a bunch of Madoff like crooks.

[kaysandesses]

"But, I have noticed that Obama could not bring about the change he speaks of. "

WTF, he's only been in office 8 months. He never claimed it would happen right away and straight out said that the economic stimulus would take a couple of years before we realize its full effect.

Gold standard? I see you don't know jack shit about economics. If we had remained on the gold standard the U.S. would still be a largely agrarian nation with no meaningful industry.

[chadgresham]

We would have a meaningful industry Kay. The only thing is that we would not have a Fed to print money up out of thin air so we might have to wait on some improvements. Also, some of the wars we have been involved in might not have happened because again we could not just print money out of our ass. If you watch zeigeist (excuse spelling) they go into the true nature of the Fed. Also, research the stock market crash of the 30s you will notice that the Fed was behind that also.

[azznine9682]

Anyways, 2 easy questions. 1)Above the capitol building looks like a owl. Why? (see Google maps, I trust you can find DC on the maps>zoom) 2)Why the pyramid on the back of our dollar and what does it say? and why>(in English)

Simple questions for you homework. If you cannot answer these simple little questions I will consider you just another brainwashed sheep, and the victor of this little discussion. (coincidence isn't a fair answer)

Lets hope that I am just paranoid..

[kaysandesses]

i really don't care about the owl or the pyramid. There are a lot more serious problems in our country than fussing around about symbology on the capitol or the back of a dollar bill.  I think you've been reading too many Dan Brown novels. Instead, you should try reading some real history about our country, considering your demonstrable wholesale ignorance of the Constitution and our history.

Son, I was the victor of this discussion days ago...though that isn't my goal.

[kaysandesses]

"And why are you defending the Corporation that is taking money from you as well?"

I'm defending the truth, which is what interests me. Goofy conspiracy theories are a waste of time and an indicator of mental illness.

"Why war exsist is money and power as far as I see. "

Always has, and always will be that way. That has nothing to do with the IRS or the Fed.

"Secret Societies and Occults are involved in our nations economy,"

Complete rubbish.

[azznine9682]

"Complete rubbish"

To blindly belieave that there isn't any secret societies working twords a hidden adgenda is foolish and nieave. Ask you presious websites why the masonry pyramid is on the back of our nation's dollar. Also ask them why the view from above our nations white house looks like an owl. They would probally discard the question.

[kaysandesses]

"To blindly belieave that there isn't any secret societies working twords a hidden adgenda is foolish and nieave"

To blindly believe this, as you do, is paranoid delusion. As I've said before, I deal in facts, not paranoid delusion.

[azznine9682]

fuck the IRS bunch of fucking snakes

[kaysandesses]

"fuck the IRS bunch of fucking snakes "

WAHHHHH WAHHHHH WAHHHHH! The IRS is simply performing the job that Congress has charged them to do. If you don't like the system then write your members of Congress.

[azznine9682]

Let me make it more clear. I'm not talking about the people low level that don't know anything about how the whole thing is unconstitutional. I'm saying fuck the whole idea and those people that put this system in place, against the rights of America. If you look into it, (beyond fox news) you will find no law stating you must have withholdings. They keep the interest.. well im not gonna explain the whole thing. 02-15-08 strike agaisnt the reserve!! (most important video on youtube search

[kaysandesses]

"don't know anything about how the whole thing is unconstitutional."

I see. Nevertheless, income tax is fully constitutional.

"...you will find no law stating you must have withholdings."

Wrong. 26 USC 3402

[azznine9682]

26 CFR § 31.3402 (p)-1

voluntary. The IRS make it seem like its mandatory. Federal Reserve must be abolished. It is owned by private bankers that appreciate people like you backing them up and making people thing they have no power. The same board would gladly take a dollar over your life if they had the choice. So keep on pushing the fact that yes, they do exist, and yes the IRS has codes. I say get rid of the IRS and their Federal Reserve banking system.

[kaysandesses]

"The IRS make it seem like its mandatory. "

It is mandatory: 26 USC 1 says nothing about "voluntary". Since you'll continue to insist you're right, cite one case where someone was not required to pay using that reasoning.

"So keep on pushing the fact that yes, they do exist, and yes the IRS has codes."

Non sequitur.

"I say get rid of the IRS and their Federal Reserve banking system. "

What's your alternative braniac?

[azznine9682]

I dont pretend to be a Nations' finace specialist. Surely there are people that run this nation that could bring up a better idea then the Federal Reserve system that is owned by private bankers. Our nation survived years before the Fed was astablished. The fact that our money is controlled by private bankers opens up our country for curruption such as wars wich I belieave almost never to be nessesary. What about consumer tax? Get rid of income tax and have people pay more taxes when purcha

[kaysandesses]

"The fact that our money is controlled by private bankers opens up our country for curruption"

The federal reserve system was set up to prevent corruption of the monetary system by whatever political party is in power at any given time. The Fed is owned by private banks, is closed to foreign investment and is overseen by a publicly appointed board of governor's.

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[kaysandesses]

Part II:

I much prefer bankers keeping an eye on our money to politicians, who are famous for being inept at most things they do.

"Get rid of income tax and have people pay more taxes when purcha "

You mean like the Fair Tax? The problem with this idea is that in order to meet current funding requirements we would end up paying about 33% sales tax on EVERYTHING we purchase. Add local sales tax, and in many areas you'll pay over 40% sales tax.

[azznine9682]

I herd that was the neo-con responce to fair tax. (the high rate) Yeah it would cost more but the 73%.. I dont belieave it would go that high. As far as the board of governors isn't regulated by the government at all. It is a private board that dosen't have any policy that protects us as citizens and oversea bankers. What stops the agenda of those who are on the board to make deals with politicans? To me that sounds dangerous. One thing I know is money and power currupts. I just hope im wr

[kaysandesses]

" herd that was the neo-con responce to fair tax."

I know nothing about the neo-con position, go read what factcheck dot org says about fairtax and you'll see why it will be over 30%.

" far as the board of governors isn't regulated by the government at all"

It's appointed by Congress which has ultimate power of the Fed, since Congress has the authority to amend the Federal Reserve Act at any time. Furthermore, the Fed is audited by the GAO and makes reports to Congress.

[azznine9682]

Oh yeah forgot to mention wile looking at a "Credible website" trying to debunk the Federal Reserve currption mess, I cam across an article that states the restrictions of fed audits. Somthing along the lines of

transactions for or with a foreign central bank or deliberations, decisions, or actions on monetary policy matters, including discount window operations, reserves of member banks, securities credit, interest on deposits, open market operations. You should take a looksy.

[kaysandesses]

"looking at a "Credible website" trying to debunk the Federal Reserve currption mess, "

What makes that site credible? Flashy layout?

This is really getting sad. At the risk of being branded elitist, you're outclassed here. You have no idea what a credible source might be. That is your whole problem, you're willing to accept nearly anything published on the web as long as it adheres to your paranoia based worldview.

[azznine9682]

Ah yes here come the insults instead of dealing with a simple statment. Outclassed, I doubt it. You show your inhibilty to think outside the box. I'm not a conspiracy theroist, and certainly not paranoid.  I just see what is going on. Nice chatting though. Have a great day.

[kaysandesses]

"Ah yes here come the insults instead of dealing with a simple statment. Outclassed, I doubt it."

I state the truth, no insults.

"You show your inhibilty to think outside the box.

What box? The box of researching each issue back to its original reference and forming an educated opinion? On the otherhand, you show an inability and unwillingness to examine anything except from the conspiracy theorist propaganda. Your posts prove this.

[kaysandesses]

"looking at a "Credible website" trying to debunk the Federal Reserve currption mess, "

What makes that site credible? Flashy layout?

This is really getting sad. At the risk of being branded elitist, you're outclassed here. You have no idea what a credible source might be. That is your whole problem, you're willing to accept nearly anything published on the web as long as it adheres to your paranoia based worldview.